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I’ve been shot in the spine with a taser illegally when the United States Secret Service tried to accuse, retired military of attacking the White House with a set of hand carved drumsticks that I made for protesting in Tigard, Oregon, and had videos up about it. I’m not gonna bother suing them and instead I have much worse.
Tasers are incredibly safe devices. The problem is, every single person is different. Just like a gentle push is safe for 99% of the population, there is always the 1% that will experience serious effects from that same gentle push. You could have a small trip in your home and bash your eye out on the counter, causing blindness. That doesnt mean that every small trip is likely to cause severe injury or death. Dozens of serious injuries or deaths every year around the world from a device that is deployed thousands of times every single day is an incredibly low rate of harm. Lower than a punch, a kick, hell, even pepper spray.
An Australian Policed was charged for manslaughter and is now in jail. When the nurses failed in their job an elderly woman started wandering around with two knives, after a taz the woman had fallen over and hit her head and died from the fall later.
It's often just called "less lethal" in everyday conversation, just like a bean bag shotgun or PAVA spray, can cause death but with a significantly less probability as an outcome.
My son as part of his " learning" to be a policeman " volunteered" to be tased. He's pretty tough dude, but even he said," it was a extremely horrible experience".
I used the Taser as a police officer several times during my career. I had a couple of failures, but in most cases, it worked exceedingly well. Much better than pepper spray. In every case, the suspect received less injury than if he had to be subdued with a night stick, and you don't have the problem of everyone in the room being sprayed with pepper spray. It works. If law enforcement is not allowed to use it, they will be back to impact weapons and firearms. I've been shot, punched, and Tasered. I'll take the Taser every time.
The connection to Nikola Tesla casually inventing the concept of the cattle prod in a letter to the editor was pretty interesting. The man really was ahead of his time.
I'm sure Tesla was just a normal I.Q. dude that slipped back in time and tried to rebuild modern gadgets from a surface level understanding of how. Think about it, could you build a laptop from memory if transported back 100 years?
As a CEW instructor and I have been Tazed it is a great tool but solid training is needed. Also pulling out a CEW has the good effect of subjects giving in and not fighting, these are not in the effective numbers. There are many situations that could have required the subject to be shot but a second officer with a CEW stopped the subject. I would say that most poor use of any weapon can be tracked back to poor training. Police need more time in training and more training each year to keep skills up.
@Aboz I unfortunately think you are right… Even with the popularity of all his channels, he and his team knows that deliberately including errors will make people comment and engage more, and I fell for it… It’s really sad that people that you might trust for proper information is using the same engagement-baits as the ones that are basically insane rants…
@@geiroveeilertsen7112 why bother yourself with that level of doubt? Even if they're a channel that goes back and does revision videos on facts they got wrong, you can just claim their attempts at being forthright as gimmicky as well. why not assume the simpler, the team is human, and humans make mistakes?
Remember that in the military and police forces, in order ti be able to carry a taser, you must be trained with it and that includes getting shot by a taser. If they are intentionally tasing themselves for training, how dangerous could it really be to the average person?
There was a company in the mid 80's advertising a device you wore that would supposedly incapacitate any would be attackers just by touch. They touch you, they go down. Late night infomercials.
Excited delerium? I have no idea if such a condition exists or not, but the description of it sounds exactly like someone the police would be called to deal with, and probably wouldn't be in front of an M.D. while the symptoms persist.
I got hit with the taser 7 during training, full body lock up, NMI. It doesn’t really hurt, it’s uncomfortable, your body locks up, and you can’t move, there’s some panic because it’s a strange feeling. It felt like I was picked up and shook violently internally, by the time I realized what was really happening, it was over. Once it’s over, it’s over, no lingering effects. I’d take it over pepper spray any day.
A joint investigation by CBC/Radio-Canada and The Canadian Press on police Taser use snagged the 2008 Michener Award. highlight of the investigative series was a project to test Tasers, in what became the largest independent electrical testing of the weapon ever conducted in the world. It revealed that 10 per cent of the Tasers tested either were defective or behaved unexpectedly.
2008... Since they came out with the T7 and the T10. Both work MUCH better than they used to. I spent some time working at Axon and was tased with the T7. I can assure you that they are much more reliable
Ever since Syphon Filter 2, I've had many impressions of the taser to say the least, like if they can be used to knock a person out or set them on fire.
@@battlebornbaz7545 actually it is the liquid carrier in the spray. Law enforcement got away from pepper spray and other chemical agents using an alcohol-based carrier. That is what ignites when the Taser arcs.
I saw a video once of someone fleeing from police on the highway, the guy started running by foot and the officer tased him, subduing him non-lethally in the street. Unfortunately, a passing SUV going at over 60MPH turned the subdued subject into a smashburger, but at least he wasn't killed by the taser so those are perfectly safe.
As with all tools, from the things you can find at a home improvement store to the things you'll find at a gun store, the individual is almost always solely responsible for their use, be that proper or improper, at the end of the day. This video was very interesting! I'm quite curious to see if the electric water gun idea goes anywhere, because frankly, that would be hilarious.
I mean, minus the burn scars I have on my chest, stomach and arms, it wasn't terrible, but I'm dumb. You know that saying about being dumb and being tough or whatever. Well, I'm far dumber then I am tough, but tough enough to be pretty fuccing dumb. I've got a heart condition, I've been shocked while I was fully lucid and awake, the shock was to reset my heart rhythm, I have SVT. Those damn paddles are a whole other beast. One time they had to do it twice to reset my rhythm. The second one was much higher in strength or whatever it's called. That one reset my mind, too. I still remember the emts faces in the back of the ambulance. Like straight dismay that I was still awake. I couldn't help but smile and let out a nervous giggle like a child and one of the paramedics literally said "what the fuck is wrong with you" 😂😂 when we got to the hospital and they got me out and were handing me off to the hospital staff, the nurse goes "what's wrong with him? We heard that you shocked him twice, he seems just fine." "We did and he's fine now, but he wasn't" "there's a lot wrong with this one, but I don't think we treat that kind of wrong" She just looked at him confused 😂😂😂 As they were transferring me from the board to the bed, she goes- "did they really shock you twice?" and I said yes and I chuckled. She goes- "yeah we can't treat most of what's wrong with you 😂"
It really bothers me when stunguns and tazers are used interchangeably. Also annoys me when they are depicted as knocking someone out, when in truth the majority of people are able to get up and move immediately after the shock stops.
Using a Taser correctly might have a low rate of injury. So the safety is basically down to police using it correctly. I'm sure that the police would never misuse a weapon that might actually kill someone. We can totally can trust them to not use it excessively. As to a cop using a gun instead of a Taser, a Taser is about 9 ounces. A gun is much heavier. But sure, cops can mistake a 9 ounce weapon for a weapon that averages 27-32 ounces. They do it all the time - with predictable results
I was hit with a taser 7 in the academy and it felt like being hit by a bat followed by complete paralysis. But once the 5 seconds were over, it completely went away
I want to know how often does it malfunction, or doesn't work? 1. Both leeds have to hit the target to work. It's not 100% that both barbed 1cm electrodes/prongs will hit and stay with the target. 2. The taser gun has many moving parts. From the nitrogen cartridges, to the electrodes, to the replaceable firing cartridge itself, and even the trigger and safety switch - all of these can and do fail.
Based on the videos on channels like "Police Activity" (so, not what you'd call a "scientific study") the Taser itself rarely malfunctions; but about half the time or so the subject is not completely stopped by it, leading to escalation to either massive application of physical force (i.e, "dogpiling" of the subject by many officers) or firearms use. Still, it's usually better to try the Taser first than to go directly to firearms use.
You also have the new Taser, the T10, which has expanded to 10 individual probes to help give a better shot profile for the officers. A standard practice in a lot of agencies are to have one officer on taser and another or subsequent officers on lethal to allow for that multiple layers of force.
Over twenty years of experience I can say that Chemical munitions such as pepper spray are preferable to electrical devices but they each have their pros and cons. Prior to these you were left ultimately with beating hell out of someone, breaking bones, or interfering with respiration. There has never been an in-depth study of cases comparing incidents and results before less lethal opposed to after its introduction. The studies that are available often leave out injuries to the law enforcement themselves. These can be substantial and are paid by the tax payers. Rigid Escalation of Force doctrines have caused a great many people to be hurt, some terminally. These are enacted to prevent excessive use of force incidents but in truth do nothing of the kind. Instead they complicate matters for everyone because an investigator going to the scene may find an outrageous amount force was apparently used to subdue someone when it need not have been necessary had the Officers been given options. Get rich lawyers love cases like that, and again it is tax payer funded. Appropriately used, Tasers and the like are invaluable for law enforcement. Unintentional results are still going to happen regardless of what tools are used. Having both “ridden the lightning” for certification and deployed them in regular use I can honestly say they are better than the alternatives I mentioned above. Public perception is the real battle. The stigma associated with the use of batons is a good example. When used correctly, a fully functional tool to subdue a dangerous person, but again because of the stigma, ignored.
Whether or not the taser is safe, how it's used always matters. If police keep tasing someone over and over, yea it's obviously torture. Training and ethics and reprimands still matter, no matter what "nonlethal" weapon you had to Officer Doofus and Officer Psycho. They'll abuse it until the legal system makes sure they don't dare abuse it. Most police know better. The ones that don't need to be bluntly and publicly corrected until all police know and have no excuse to abuse the tool.
IMHO, "excited delirium" is a description, not a diagnosis. Specifically, they're excited, and delirious. The root cause is often drugs or mental illness. In any case, there's _always_ more to the story than just a two-word label.
It's important to know the difference. TASERs actually shoot a projectile while a stun gun, despite being called a "gun" does shoot anything. You have to make physical contact with your attacker in order to use it.
@@Can_non69 if you want engagement you don't have to try hard. Just say something contentious like Did you know TASER is an acronym for The Amazing Systemic Electric Repulsor?
I've always had a problem with all those taser 'safety' demonstrations. They're always under the most overly controlled circumstances ie: two people right there ready to go to place you on the ground nice and easy plus a soft pad to lay down on. It's being dishonest about the supposed safety. That ain't the real world and faceplanting into the pavement is no joke.
i've been hit with a taser for a laugh, being an engineer i've had my fair share of electric shocks my biggest 415v 3 phase that really hurt. the taser temporarily incapacitated me but i can safely say cs gas is king you will go down and you won't get up.
the cops dog piled on him and stopped him from getting air .. the whole vid is on line you can see they only tase him twice then dog pile ..the coroner report is on line 🥃
Bad cops will abuse their boots if so inclined. But maybe we need to accept a small degree of risk when they are faced with unknown threats and are responsible for keeping the entire country safe
Surely, you saw the recent case in Australia where a policeman taser'd a 95 year old women suffering dementia, and wouldn't put down a kitchen knife. Fell over, cracked her head. Died. Policeman charged and convicted.
I agree that Tasers are a great tool and have prevented a lot of injuries in police hands. The problem with the Taser is when police start to use it like a set of car keys (10x per day) and not like a weapon that is potentially lethal. Many police are using Tasers frequently and with little or no regard on old people, young people and sick people. It's actually surprising that we don't have more deaths from Tasers. But there are absolutely less injuries now that police only torture people with Tasers rather than breaking their arms and legs with batons like they used to.
I have never been shot with a police level stun gun, but no commercially available taser or cattle prod has ever put me down. I even burned one out and broke it while using it on my neck. I am curious about the ones with wire, I wonder how I would react to one of those.
Pro-tip: No matter how frustrated you get, don't start a scene and make people feel threated by you, especially in an airport or government building, ESPECIALLY if you lack the ability to communicate with the locals/police force. And once the badges come out, always keep your hands empty and where they can see them. You don't even need to speak the language to interpret that kind of body language. Generally speaking, this will avoid you getting tased or worse. Sorry that polish guy died, but you can't act like that, in that place, and expect a foot massage. I don't see the "police brutality" aspect here. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Man... all im saying is either America is further gone than i wanna admit, or Canada is rosier than i wamna picture it, that "police brutality" and apparently, one of "the worst" in Canada in a while, consists of an irate man getting hit with a "less than lethal" option one too many times.
Is this video about the taser or the stun gun/cattle prod? The taser fires a projectile, while the stun gun/cattle prod is a handheld contact weapon. They are NOT the same.
I got bar b qued while in jail during a lockdown cause of a fight. I didnt crap myself but it did suck. I got hit solid, both barbs right in mu back shoulder blades. Balintine crapped himself. But he got a barb in the neck and the other in his calf so im curious if its the electrical path that makes you poop.
"how could we know that electrocuting a man with a taser five times could cause a heart attack!? We went to the police academy, not medical school. In the movies they use shocks to stop heart attacks, blame Hollywood."
Well they have done clinical trials and determined that 45secs interrupted and continuous shouldn't lead to any side effects but also applying it more than 3 times is considered excessive force.
Knives can go fatal in a fraction of a second, and while still in the hands of an attacker, escalation to firearms use by the police is warranted; and this is reflected in official policy. However - if they had in fact dodged the knife, and she was now disarmed when the shooting started... that's not OK; because the threat had passed.
Taser = dangerous Gun = more dangerous 100% i would rather risk my chances with a taser over my chances with a gun. Lol. This is totally a case of "If force is necessary, they are both dangerous, but one kills one out of every few hundred deployments, the other is a tool they train to be lethal with....." You take your pick!. Lol
1:30 When you say "less than lethal weapon", you are referring to the use of force continuum, where it's now considered an "intermediate weapon". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_force_continuum
A taser can be relatively harmless to totally deadly depending on how it contacts a person. Directly touching someone with one might hurt, but usually doesn't cause any permanent damage or death as the arc travels directly from point to point. The kind police use that fire prongs into a person, are likely to kill someone as the prongs are going to be further apart and can easily shock the heart. Using one on a person who has a pacemaker would very likely kill them no matter what type you use. And if someone touched the two prods at the end with both hands, they would shock their heart and die. Are they harmless? They can be. Are they deadly? They can be.
People SHOULD take the law into their own hands! We are a gov’t by the people, of the people and for the people. We are the gov’t and any government EMPLOYEE that thinks the right of self defense lies sole with the gov’t is sorely mistaken. Each individual should have the right to defend themselves, and protect their personal property, without depending on the gov’t.
This came out at the best time, local news just came out on the radio how a cop lost his tazer while on a foot chase, he dropped it while chasing a guy and when they went back to screen the street an search for it, its gone. Im sure they will find it in the worst way in the future knowing my city.
Neither, I’m not a delinquent that would end up in a situation that you’ve just described. However, if this is a “would you rather” situation, Tazed. 100%
@TheShadow0515 Same. I've been arrested more than once and I've never had an officer use force on me because I don't resist. When a cop says you're under arrest it's not up for debate, optional or a suggestion. If you resist, you will lose, you will probably be hurt and have no one to blame but yourself.
It doesn’t matter what you did or didn’t do, if you follow orders, you won’t give the police any reason to be in fear of you. Shut up and deal with it.
If anyone says he died of "excited delirium," show me the DSM5 or other reference with disorder code, and I'll show up your "nocturnal hysteria" as a legitimate sounding diagnosis
You realize "amp" is just the shorthand for amperage, right??? Amperage is the correct name for measuring units of electricity. Talking about some "who writes this sh*t...? Mf'er who taught you? Cause they failed....
Remember when most parents used physical punishment to correct children and you just dealt with the individually excessive cases? Now nobody can physically correct their children because there were wayyyy too many abusers, and better to just ban the category than continuing to spend money on individual csses? Remember when cops using their tools to keep the public order was normal and you just dealt with the individual outside brutality cases? Now, even using less than lethal equipment is almost a scandal, much less if an officer uses something not 'less than than lethal'. We are crippling our ability to both teach fully and correctly, and our ability to keep the public order. When criminals know that law enforcement is hesitant to use even their basic "non lethal" equipment in fear of retibution, it makes them bolder. Just saying!
It's more that the ppl using them are blatantly ignorant as to how and when to use them. You do not wait until a completely non-combative runs across an unlit highway in the middle of the night to taze the man, where he then falls motionless and is immediately run over by a speeding car while you step out of the way....which happened this year in the U.S. That video was fucked up...
Surely a lightweight jacket of foil or carbon fiber would rip and fail to stay on someone. If it was strong enough to resit that, well then it isn't lightweight and would in fact, not work.
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I’ve been shot in the spine with a taser illegally when the United States Secret Service tried to accuse, retired military of attacking the White House with a set of hand carved drumsticks that I made for protesting in Tigard, Oregon, and had videos up about it. I’m not gonna bother suing them and instead I have much worse.
Tasers are incredibly safe devices. The problem is, every single person is different. Just like a gentle push is safe for 99% of the population, there is always the 1% that will experience serious effects from that same gentle push. You could have a small trip in your home and bash your eye out on the counter, causing blindness. That doesnt mean that every small trip is likely to cause severe injury or death. Dozens of serious injuries or deaths every year around the world from a device that is deployed thousands of times every single day is an incredibly low rate of harm. Lower than a punch, a kick, hell, even pepper spray.
An Australian Policed was charged for manslaughter and is now in jail. When the nurses failed in their job an elderly woman started wandering around with two knives, after a taz the woman had fallen over and hit her head and died from the fall later.
A fall is an accident; a taser is a choice. Just some clarification.
It's often just called "less lethal" in everyday conversation, just like a bean bag shotgun or PAVA spray, can cause death but with a significantly less probability as an outcome.
"How Dangerous Is It Really?"
Only one way to know for sure Simon.
My son as part of his " learning" to be a policeman " volunteered" to be tased.
He's pretty tough dude, but even he said," it was a extremely horrible experience".
Partition to taze the fact boi for science
I have a cardiac pacemaker. I wouldn't want to take any chances with electrical fields.
We already know. Not only has it been used to torture prisoners but deaths have also been recorded.
People with cardiac conditions do die.
There's so many things that i never knew that i was interested in learning about until i clicked onto Simon's videos
I used the Taser as a police officer several times during my career. I had a couple of failures, but in most cases, it worked exceedingly well. Much better than pepper spray. In every case, the suspect received less injury than if he had to be subdued with a night stick, and you don't have the problem of everyone in the room being sprayed with pepper spray. It works. If law enforcement is not allowed to use it, they will be back to impact weapons and firearms. I've been shot, punched, and Tasered. I'll take the Taser every time.
The connection to Nikola Tesla casually inventing the concept of the cattle prod in a letter to the editor was pretty interesting. The man really was ahead of his time.
I'm sure Tesla was just a normal I.Q. dude that slipped back in time and tried to rebuild modern gadgets from a surface level understanding of how. Think about it, could you build a laptop from memory if transported back 100 years?
As a CEW instructor and I have been Tazed it is a great tool but solid training is needed. Also pulling out a CEW has the good effect of subjects giving in and not fighting, these are not in the effective numbers. There are many situations that could have required the subject to be shot but a second officer with a CEW stopped the subject. I would say that most poor use of any weapon can be tracked back to poor training. Police need more time in training and more training each year to keep skills up.
4:41 The Leyden jar was invented in 1746, not 1946 🙂
A bit off there.. humourous imagining people doing experiments so basic after the car was invented
@@JordyValentine After the aroplalane and the atomic bomb had been invented.
I'm beginning to think Simon makes these little gaffes deliberately to drive engagement in the comments
@Aboz
I unfortunately think you are right… Even with the popularity of all his channels, he and his team knows that deliberately including errors will make people comment and engage more, and I fell for it… It’s really sad that people that you might trust for proper information is using the same engagement-baits as the ones that are basically insane rants…
@@geiroveeilertsen7112 why bother yourself with that level of doubt? Even if they're a channel that goes back and does revision videos on facts they got wrong, you can just claim their attempts at being forthright as gimmicky as well. why not assume the simpler, the team is human, and humans make mistakes?
Remember that in the military and police forces, in order ti be able to carry a taser, you must be trained with it and that includes getting shot by a taser. If they are intentionally tasing themselves for training, how dangerous could it really be to the average person?
They're applied in a controlled environment for a very short duration on people that have been medically cleared and don't have heart conditions.
Maybe ask the dead polish guys mum?
There was a company in the mid 80's advertising a device you wore that would supposedly incapacitate any would be attackers just by touch. They touch you, they go down. Late night infomercials.
Excited delerium? I have no idea if such a condition exists or not, but the description of it sounds exactly like someone the police would be called to deal with, and probably wouldn't be in front of an M.D. while the symptoms persist.
I got hit with the taser 7 during training, full body lock up, NMI. It doesn’t really hurt, it’s uncomfortable, your body locks up, and you can’t move, there’s some panic because it’s a strange feeling. It felt like I was picked up and shook violently internally, by the time I realized what was really happening, it was over. Once it’s over, it’s over, no lingering effects. I’d take it over pepper spray any day.
Yeah, tasers really aren't all that great for stopping a confrontation.
Pepper spray was a million times worse
@@joeycampbell940 I have yet to use one, but it’s definitely not a tool I would rely on.
@@hypergogic3269 the gift that keeps on burning
A joint investigation by CBC/Radio-Canada and The Canadian Press on police Taser use snagged the 2008 Michener Award.
highlight of the investigative series was a project to test Tasers, in what became the largest independent electrical testing of the weapon ever conducted in the world. It revealed that 10 per cent of the Tasers tested either were defective or behaved unexpectedly.
2008... Since they came out with the T7 and the T10. Both work MUCH better than they used to. I spent some time working at Axon and was tased with the T7. I can assure you that they are much more reliable
Ever since Syphon Filter 2, I've had many impressions of the taser to say the least, like if they can be used to knock a person out or set them on fire.
it also might leave a rash
CS spray can be ignited by a taser.
@@battlebornbaz7545 actually it is the liquid carrier in the spray. Law enforcement got away from pepper spray and other chemical agents using an alcohol-based carrier. That is what ignites when the Taser arcs.
I saw a video once of someone fleeing from police on the highway, the guy started running by foot and the officer tased him, subduing him non-lethally in the street.
Unfortunately, a passing SUV going at over 60MPH turned the subdued subject into a smashburger, but at least he wasn't killed by the taser so those are perfectly safe.
As with all tools, from the things you can find at a home improvement store to the things you'll find at a gun store, the individual is almost always solely responsible for their use, be that proper or improper, at the end of the day.
This video was very interesting! I'm quite curious to see if the electric water gun idea goes anywhere, because frankly, that would be hilarious.
I mean, minus the burn scars I have on my chest, stomach and arms, it wasn't terrible, but I'm dumb. You know that saying about being dumb and being tough or whatever. Well, I'm far dumber then I am tough, but tough enough to be pretty fuccing dumb.
I've got a heart condition, I've been shocked while I was fully lucid and awake, the shock was to reset my heart rhythm, I have SVT. Those damn paddles are a whole other beast.
One time they had to do it twice to reset my rhythm. The second one was much higher in strength or whatever it's called. That one reset my mind, too.
I still remember the emts faces in the back of the ambulance. Like straight dismay that I was still awake. I couldn't help but smile and let out a nervous giggle like a child and one of the paramedics literally said "what the fuck is wrong with you" 😂😂 when we got to the hospital and they got me out and were handing me off to the hospital staff, the nurse goes "what's wrong with him? We heard that you shocked him twice, he seems just fine." "We did and he's fine now, but he wasn't" "there's a lot wrong with this one, but I don't think we treat that kind of wrong"
She just looked at him confused 😂😂😂
As they were transferring me from the board to the bed, she goes- "did they really shock you twice?" and I said yes and I chuckled. She goes- "yeah we can't treat most of what's wrong with you 😂"
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It really bothers me when stunguns and tazers are used interchangeably. Also annoys me when they are depicted as knocking someone out, when in truth the majority of people are able to get up and move immediately after the shock stops.
It’s amazing that we continue to call them “less than lethal” when the body count continues to grow
Using a Taser correctly might have a low rate of injury. So the safety is basically down to police using it correctly. I'm sure that the police would never misuse a weapon that might actually kill someone. We can totally can trust them to not use it excessively.
As to a cop using a gun instead of a Taser, a Taser is about 9 ounces. A gun is much heavier. But sure, cops can mistake a 9 ounce weapon for a weapon that averages 27-32 ounces. They do it all the time - with predictable results
27:15 "in cases of TESLA related death." ????
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I was hit with a taser 7 in the academy and it felt like being hit by a bat followed by complete paralysis. But once the 5 seconds were over, it completely went away
same experience with both the M-26 and X-26 on my part.
Yay! Simon is narrating this! 🎉
I won't watch the other guy. Something about his voice just irritates me
I want to know how often does it malfunction, or doesn't work? 1. Both leeds have to hit the target to work. It's not 100% that both barbed 1cm electrodes/prongs will hit and stay with the target. 2. The taser gun has many moving parts. From the nitrogen cartridges, to the electrodes, to the replaceable firing cartridge itself, and even the trigger and safety switch - all of these can and do fail.
Based on the videos on channels like "Police Activity" (so, not what you'd call a "scientific study") the Taser itself rarely malfunctions; but about half the time or so the subject is not completely stopped by it, leading to escalation to either massive application of physical force (i.e, "dogpiling" of the subject by many officers) or firearms use.
Still, it's usually better to try the Taser first than to go directly to firearms use.
You also have the new Taser, the T10, which has expanded to 10 individual probes to help give a better shot profile for the officers. A standard practice in a lot of agencies are to have one officer on taser and another or subsequent officers on lethal to allow for that multiple layers of force.
They are ineffective approximately 50% of the time
Fought a couple excited delirium patients in EMS, it’s very real whatever you want to call it. Strong doesn’t describe it.
Over twenty years of experience I can say that Chemical munitions such as pepper spray are preferable to electrical devices but they each have their pros and cons. Prior to these you were left ultimately with beating hell out of someone, breaking bones, or interfering with respiration. There has never been an in-depth study of cases comparing incidents and results before less lethal opposed to after its introduction. The studies that are available often leave out injuries to the law enforcement themselves. These can be substantial and are paid by the tax payers. Rigid Escalation of Force doctrines have caused a great many people to be hurt, some terminally. These are enacted to prevent excessive use of force incidents but in truth do nothing of the kind. Instead they complicate matters for everyone because an investigator going to the scene may find an outrageous amount force was apparently used to subdue someone when it need not have been necessary had the Officers been given options. Get rich lawyers love cases like that, and again it is tax payer funded. Appropriately used, Tasers and the like are invaluable for law enforcement. Unintentional results are still going to happen regardless of what tools are used. Having both “ridden the lightning” for certification and deployed them in regular use I can honestly say they are better than the alternatives I mentioned above. Public perception is the real battle. The stigma associated with the use of batons is a good example. When used correctly, a fully functional tool to subdue a dangerous person, but again because of the stigma, ignored.
Whether or not the taser is safe, how it's used always matters. If police keep tasing someone over and over, yea it's obviously torture.
Training and ethics and reprimands still matter, no matter what "nonlethal" weapon you had to Officer Doofus and Officer Psycho. They'll abuse it until the legal system makes sure they don't dare abuse it. Most police know better. The ones that don't need to be bluntly and publicly corrected until all police know and have no excuse to abuse the tool.
You can count on Tasers being only about 50% effective even when the target has light clothing. You have to be prepared for followed up shots.
IMHO, "excited delirium" is a description, not a diagnosis. Specifically, they're excited, and delirious. The root cause is often drugs or mental illness. In any case, there's _always_ more to the story than just a two-word label.
I met Monty Robinson about 6 months before at a place called the fire fighters club. He was a drunken fool
Industry city California is "city of industry". Back to the future parking lot scene was filmed there
The thumbnail shows a stun gun, not a taser.
Erm , actually 🤓☝🏿
It's important to know the difference. TASERs actually shoot a projectile while a stun gun, despite being called a "gun" does shoot anything. You have to make physical contact with your attacker in order to use it.
Now, look at the extra engagement the video is getting.
CAN IT, NERD!
@@Can_non69 if you want engagement you don't have to try hard. Just say something contentious like
Did you know TASER is an acronym for The Amazing Systemic Electric Repulsor?
thumbnail depicts a stun gun which is not a taser
dude, in used to love tom swift books when i was in like grade school. i haven't thought about that in like 300yrs.🤣🤣
I've always had a problem with all those taser 'safety' demonstrations. They're always under the most overly controlled circumstances ie: two people right there ready to go to place you on the ground nice and easy plus a soft pad to lay down on. It's being dishonest about the supposed safety. That ain't the real world and faceplanting into the pavement is no joke.
In the UK excited delirium is medically known as Acute Behavioural Disturbance.
The Behind the Bastards on Excited Delirium is a fascinating watch.
I like how the thumbnail is not a picture of a taser
i've been hit with a taser for a laugh, being an engineer i've had my fair share of electric shocks my biggest 415v 3 phase that really hurt. the taser temporarily incapacitated me but i can safely say cs gas is king you will go down and you won't get up.
What do they suggest as alternative to takers?
the cops dog piled on him and stopped him from getting air .. the whole vid is on line
you can see they only tase him twice then dog pile ..the coroner report is on line 🥃
Can it be an effective tool? Yes. Can and will the cops abuse it? Also yes.
Bad cops will abuse their boots if so inclined.
But maybe we need to accept a small degree of risk when they are faced with unknown threats and are responsible for keeping the entire country safe
Kamloops, not "Kamploops."
"Who invented the TASER?"
*shows a stun gun in the thumbnail*
Surely, you saw the recent case in Australia where a policeman taser'd a 95 year old women suffering dementia, and wouldn't put down a kitchen knife. Fell over, cracked her head. Died. Policeman charged and convicted.
Kamloops not Camp Loops
I agree that Tasers are a great tool and have prevented a lot of injuries in police hands. The problem with the Taser is when police start to use it like a set of car keys (10x per day) and not like a weapon that is potentially lethal. Many police are using Tasers frequently and with little or no regard on old people, young people and sick people. It's actually surprising that we don't have more deaths from Tasers. But there are absolutely less injuries now that police only torture people with Tasers rather than breaking their arms and legs with batons like they used to.
I watched a cousin get tased for a Xanax bar years ago 😂😂😂😂
I have never been shot with a police level stun gun, but no commercially available taser or cattle prod has ever put me down. I even burned one out and broke it while using it on my neck. I am curious about the ones with wire, I wonder how I would react to one of those.
Pro-tip:
No matter how frustrated you get, don't start a scene and make people feel threated by you, especially in an airport or government building, ESPECIALLY if you lack the ability to communicate with the locals/police force.
And once the badges come out, always keep your hands empty and where they can see them. You don't even need to speak the language to interpret that kind of body language.
Generally speaking, this will avoid you getting tased or worse.
Sorry that polish guy died, but you can't act like that, in that place, and expect a foot massage. I don't see the "police brutality" aspect here. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Using a picture of a stun gun for a taser video thumbnail?
When the government does not respond, the law hast to be taken into your own hands. That's the failure of government.They're not perfect
" Tesla Related Death ' I think you meant TASER LOL! or has Elon been up to no good.
29:55 you cannot have a near fatal electrocution, an electrocution is always fatal.
being injured by an electric shock counts as electrocution so it’s not always fatal
I feel like it could be useful to force police to go back to using firearms only for a year and compare the number of fatalities
Man... all im saying is either America is further gone than i wanna admit, or Canada is rosier than i wamna picture it, that "police brutality" and apparently, one of "the worst" in Canada in a while, consists of an irate man getting hit with a "less than lethal" option one too many times.
Has anybody seen the Australian show No Activity?
The taser? Oh, yes. That thing that is kept on U.S. law enforcement belts when they draw lethal weapons for just about all occasions.
Of course they show a pic of the black soldier holding the Taser sideways..
Is this video about the taser or the stun gun/cattle prod? The taser fires a projectile, while the stun gun/cattle prod is a handheld contact weapon. They are NOT the same.
The most fun you'll have for 5 seconds. Good times.
I got bar b qued while in jail during a lockdown cause of a fight. I didnt crap myself but it did suck. I got hit solid, both barbs right in mu back shoulder blades. Balintine crapped himself. But he got a barb in the neck and the other in his calf so im curious if its the electrical path that makes you poop.
"how could we know that electrocuting a man with a taser five times could cause a heart attack!? We went to the police academy, not medical school. In the movies they use shocks to stop heart attacks, blame Hollywood."
Electrocuting means execution by electricity, You can be shocked multiple times!
Well they have done clinical trials and determined that 45secs interrupted and continuous shouldn't lead to any side effects but also applying it more than 3 times is considered excessive force.
@ Shocking 🤣
Wow they had no reason to magdump on that woman....
Knives can go fatal in a fraction of a second, and while still in the hands of an attacker, escalation to firearms use by the police is warranted; and this is reflected in official policy. However - if they had in fact dodged the knife, and she was now disarmed when the shooting started... that's not OK; because the threat had passed.
Taser = dangerous
Gun = more dangerous
100% i would rather risk my chances with a taser over my chances with a gun.
Lol.
This is totally a case of "If force is necessary, they are both dangerous, but one kills one out of every few hundred deployments, the other is a tool they train to be lethal with....."
You take your pick!. Lol
I thought the Smith brothers sold cough drops.🤔
Don’t do stupid shit, you won’t meet with stupid force. Simple as that.
Did he say the laden jar was invented in 1946? I spot a mistake like that in almost every one of Simon's videos.
Who's watching this in 1824?
Me
Who's asking?
maybe...
Nope, I'm watching in 600 BCE with my buddy here Thales of Miletus
None of your business
1:30 When you say "less than lethal weapon", you are referring to the use of force continuum, where it's now considered an "intermediate weapon".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_force_continuum
A taser can be relatively harmless to totally deadly depending on how it contacts a person. Directly touching someone with one might hurt, but usually doesn't cause any permanent damage or death as the arc travels directly from point to point. The kind police use that fire prongs into a person, are likely to kill someone as the prongs are going to be further apart and can easily shock the heart. Using one on a person who has a pacemaker would very likely kill them no matter what type you use. And if someone touched the two prods at the end with both hands, they would shock their heart and die. Are they harmless? They can be. Are they deadly? They can be.
I had wondered who i needed to "thank" for the enlightening experience. And then the barbs being pulled out is just icing on the cake.
A K rowdy!
"camp loops"
Subduing
People SHOULD take the law into their own hands! We are a gov’t by the people, of the people and for the people. We are the gov’t and any government EMPLOYEE that thinks the right of self defense lies sole with the gov’t is sorely mistaken. Each individual should have the right to defend themselves, and protect their personal property, without depending on the gov’t.
Don't taze me bro!
Poor kittys
Trying to subdue someone who is being combative with something that is routinely used without serious injury is NOT police brutality.
how much research have you done? Tasers continuously kill people with heart conditions and pacemakers
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This came out at the best time, local news just came out on the radio how a cop lost his tazer while on a foot chase, he dropped it while chasing a guy and when they went back to screen the street an search for it, its gone. Im sure they will find it in the worst way in the future knowing my city.
Would you rather be tazed or shot?
Neither, I’m not a delinquent that would end up in a situation that you’ve just described. However, if this is a “would you rather” situation, Tazed. 100%
@TheShadow0515 Same. I've been arrested more than once and I've never had an officer use force on me because I don't resist. When a cop says you're under arrest it's not up for debate, optional or a suggestion. If you resist, you will lose, you will probably be hurt and have no one to blame but yourself.
@@mikes2622 Yes indeedy.
It doesn’t matter what you did or didn’t do, if you follow orders, you won’t give the police any reason to be in fear of you. Shut up and deal with it.
If anyone says he died of "excited delirium," show me the DSM5 or other reference with disorder code, and I'll show up your "nocturnal hysteria" as a legitimate sounding diagnosis
Ok…..
"The higher amperage of the fence.."
Who writes this shit?
You realize "amp" is just the shorthand for amperage, right??? Amperage is the correct name for measuring units of electricity.
Talking about some "who writes this sh*t...? Mf'er who taught you? Cause they failed....
@@PrancingGoldfish No it isn't...'Volt' is correct name 'amp' is a measure of current flow.....Mf'er who taught you? Cause they failed....
Not an Engineer, probably the other guy who commented on your comment !
I saw The Electric Subjugator open for Black Sabbath!
Its not dangerous, you can get shocked from some socks
Remember when most parents used physical punishment to correct children and you just dealt with the individually excessive cases? Now nobody can physically correct their children because there were wayyyy too many abusers, and better to just ban the category than continuing to spend money on individual csses?
Remember when cops using their tools to keep the public order was normal and you just dealt with the individual outside brutality cases? Now, even using less than lethal equipment is almost a scandal, much less if an officer uses something not 'less than than lethal'.
We are crippling our ability to both teach fully and correctly, and our ability to keep the public order.
When criminals know that law enforcement is hesitant to use even their basic "non lethal" equipment in fear of retibution, it makes them bolder. Just saying!
"eventually cleared of wrongdoing" because of course they were
It's more that the ppl using them are blatantly ignorant as to how and when to use them. You do not wait until a completely non-combative runs across an unlit highway in the middle of the night to taze the man, where he then falls motionless and is immediately run over by a speeding car while you step out of the way....which happened this year in the U.S. That video was fucked up...
The slain men are pointing out even though they're dead. Yeah propaganda actually do some homework
Surely - if you wear a lightweight jacket of foil or carbon fibre this would short circuit the
taser spikes and you don`t get zapped ! ?? ⚡⚡⚡
Plus a tin foil hat.
Surely a lightweight jacket of foil or carbon fiber would rip and fail to stay on someone. If it was strong enough to resit that, well then it isn't lightweight and would in fact, not work.
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3 views in 1 minute, bro fell off
The moment you threaten the life of the innocent, you void your own.
It's best not to F around with cops because you're most likely to find out.