"Because strong female characters have never been done before" - Some modern audience writer. "No you just havent been watching them or lack media comprehension" - Anyone whoever watched a decent amount of movies.
Or alternatively: "You cleary have no idea what a strong character is". Because a lot of the time it seems like they mistake being an asshole for strength.
@@yersiniapestis5237 I know that we like to treat the disney star wars trillogy like an unproduct that never existed, but you really don't remeber that utter clusterfuck that was it's marketing? Because the people who made that slop did indeed prance around like they were the ones to have invented the concpet of "strong female charcater"
@@AgagaSnsns Yup. In Brazil I only found the second movie simply titled "A Lenda da Princesa Rebelde", it had a professional editing in the VHS release and also a cast of highly recognizable voice actors from the 90s. I remember that unless you had access to vídeo rental shops (which my mom owned back before DVDs became the new thing, so that's why I had access to it), almost no one spoke of it. I tried searching for the other movies dubbed in Portuguese, but found none, so I kinda had to watch in Italian or English.
There are people outside of Italy of cause. And yrs, the dragon ring is from the same producers, starring Franco Nero and Sophie von Kessel. I still have the VHS 😊.
@@AgagaSnsns Absolutely! I am from Germany, and they would show parts 1 and 2 one Christmas, next year 1 to 4, the year after 1 to 6, and so on. I absolutely loved this show. Like this video said: There wasn't that much fantasy on our tv back then.
Strange thing is, this is exactly the character arc we have ALWAYS seen with male heroes. Joseph Campbell laid this out 75 years ago but, for some obscure reason, modern media has decided that female heroes must be mary sue perfection from the start.
Because that is who women are. No learning, complete denial of any fault, no hint of discomfort. This is why every relationship fails, because women destroy everything.
Lamberto Bava, the director of all five "Fantaghirò" films, also produced other Italian fantasy films such as "Desideria and The Dragon Ring", "Alizea/Little Sister and the Prince of Dreams" and "The Princess Mirabella and the Pauper Boy/Plebeian Boy". Amedeo Minghi instead composed wonderful soundtracks for all these films!!!
Hi from Lithuania, I also grew up with "Cave of the Golden Rose" and "The Dragon Ring". I really enjoyed your video! Please make more. Not a lot of people are talking about these productions. Fantaghiro was a very formative character for me growing up
You'd probably be surprised to know Fantaghiro was often on TV in the former Soviet Union in the nineties and early two-thousands. I remember enjoying it very much. The US really missed out on this one. I even saw the animated spinoff show later, when it was on TV in my country as well.
Polish here, aswell. When Americans kept droning about "no female heroes" I was like "Fatraghiro, bruh?" A whole series, too. More movies than Star Wars have.
Thank you for making content such as this. It's one of the main reasons why I like your chanel so much. It's great to learn about media that I wouldn't have heard about otherwise. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, the Black Witch woke up something in me 😅 But she was really just a cool over the top villain 🙂 I really liked her knights but looking back at it, their armors are ridiculous (especially the oversized helmets). But when I was a kid they seemed really cool to me just because they wore black and were mostly silent (sort of like Boba Fett or even better, Darth Maul) 😁 Even the king seemed cooler when he was in black with that iron mask 🖤 That whole aesthetic was pretty metal 😃 I also loved Tarabas 😁
Yeah, I've seen this as a kid too, Fantagiro was one of my first crushes. Funnily enough I completely forgot the name of this series and struggled to remember it about a decade later when I first got access to internet. Then something prompted me to remember it (or maybe I stumbled upon it), and that was like the best nostalgia rush!😄 Your video made me realize that it's in Italian, and I wanted to learn the language some years ago. Maybe I'll start with Fantagiro.🙄
Fantagiro fights for her Love ( till the last two Episodes, they got a horrible end ) and to save her Kingdom, has a Mentor who teaches her how to use a Sword and was careful for weaker People ( especially Children) . She would never have a chance today with such a noble Character. We live in the dark Age of Guyladriel and Rey Nameless.
I'm french and I also grew up with the Cave of the Golden Rose, I was an addict of the series! 90's European kids all united under Fantaghirò's banner ✊
Excellent analysis and a great trip down memory-lane! I very much enjoyed watching Fantaghiro back in the day. The story was richly imaginative, the characters likable (that talking rock was so original!) and having genuine individuality - and of course Alessandra Martines nailed the lead role. The first 3 films were superb, but alas after that the story seemed to trail off completely. One of my favourite characters was Tarabas and his journey from antagonist to protagonist. It was only much later that I discovered that the word 'Fantaghiro' means capable, ambitious, and resourceful. It was super that you put the original soundtrack in the background of the video - I actually learnt to play it on the piano back in the day (and still to this day), it's just SO good! Thank you not only for the upload - but also for providing the links to the Italian version. It's going to be a VERY interesting thing to rewatch this series as a grumpy old bear that I am now. Oh, and I hope beyond hope they DON'T do a remake - nothing can compare to the original. That was the Magic of the early 90's!
It wasn't Christmas without Fantaghirò on television in Italy. That's why, during my first trip to the Czech Republic, I wanted to visit the beautiful Bouzov Castle, and I continue to return almost every year!
I watched animated series growing up in Serbia 20 years ago. It was great, each episode brought something new. The intro song is still playing in my head.
Great video. I also watched Fantagiro when i was a kid. I feel lucky being European. There are no shows like that anymore. Characters were really growing, learning from their mistakes. Nowadays they come already all knowing and act cocky. Then, they were going on adventured and we were watching leisurely. Today we are only lectured about this and that from the screen. I just remembered another female lead from those times, but it's animation series ''Marianne Premiere''.
Now this brings back memories! In the 90s, Fantaghiro movies were broadcast on Italian tv around Christmas, and I remember really enjoying them as a kid (at least the first three). And indeed, Fantaghiro was an engaging character because she went from a rather insufferable brat to a kind-hearted badass, and I remember that as a kid I found her becoming a knight-pricess by overcoming all the challenges in front of her to be really cool. Modern Hollywood woke female lead are despised by most not really because of politics but because they are badly written characters with the depth of a puddle, who essentially amount as power fantasies of their (activist) writers.
Not only were these "modern" characters "always perfect from the start, just repressed", they are also quite often not nice people, instead they are often really mean, condecending, amoral - you name it.
Thank you for making this video. Fantaghiro was a classic series and I grew up on the series as well! Despite the relative lower production values compared to modern day productions, the series of movies from 1- 4 (because I don't consider the 5th at all) was a beautiful resonating adaptation of that classic tale that presented a great tale with a female heroine who wasn't a "girl boss" but had heroic qualities and managed to save those she loved using her skills, her wit and with the help of her companions. The series had an incredible OST and beautiful medieval European aesthetics. If there is anything that deserves to be remade with a big budget it's Fantaghiro because it actually deserves to have proper respectful modern adaptation with a big budget whether as a series of films of a live action tv show. She was a perfect character for Hollywood to adapt and they never did. Perhaps it's better if they don't try because they can't create compelling, believable female characters anymore.
Well said 🙂 And yeah, I would love the idea of a Fantaghiro remake, but it would have to be made by someone who genuinely wants to tell a good story, without the temptation to insert preachy politics into it. And I would still want them to be true to the original series in some aspects that were great about the original.
@@FolkWalkCZ i would like a remake too. but i never really understand the film with the vegetebales .in prior films she fights for her family and loved ones .but in this she goes never back to her familiy and begins a new life with a new lover. but her husband from the other movies was still alive, if i remember correctly.
Thanx for this! Yes, please do something on The Dragon Ring and any other TV/movies that would be new to a lot of people, even if these have been around for decades. I just subscribed! :)
I think this so often happens, society has a shift and there's a course change. I feel like in the 90s this had happened for women's roles and also although to lesser degree but definetely moving so for gay people. It was more organic and balanced. Then people were digging it and feeling rewarded and it became a flooded market eventually flogging a dead horse and overreacting to milk the movement to a no longer positive but rather destructive degree. I think this pretty much encompasses much of the state of current social justice movements. Historically there is a tendency for the oppressed to become oppressors if they get an upper hand.
Only watched one Fantaghiro movie as a kid, didn't know there were more. Saw it on Aussie tv a couple times, named some of my game characters Fantaghiro too.
OH MY GOSH I JUST WATCHED PART ONE AND IT WAS SO FUN! The extending beard as he lists all the things she must promise, trying to vent her frustration on things but then they're all sentient, I don't know why but I loved the goose so much!
I'm from Germany and I love Fantaghiro. As a child we even had the VHS cassette box at home. Apart from Pocahontas I was never interested in Disney, but always Fantaghiro💕 I just love the vibe and fairy tale world, the music, costumes and story, even though as a child I was really scared of the captain from the last two parts because I really thought he was a wooden doll that would then be eaten by the woodworms😯😦 But I thought the last two parts were stupid anyway because she didn't go back to Romualdo and her family. Oh and I was also a bit scared of Tarabas' army as a child😅 Sigh, Tarabas was great. But nonetheless she is and will remain my favorite princess and a big part of my childhood😊
as an italian I am actually proud that fantaghirò is famouse outside Italy and seens as a proper strong female rather than the crap that's on tv nowadays
The character is only as smart as the writer. The same goes for morals and everything else. These new "strong female lead" characters are written by incompetent, evil and obnoxious people so obviously it reflects in their character as well.
I'm genuinely curious as to how long it's gonna take Hollywood to give us well written strong females that have more expression and life than "lifeless husk of decaying wood" we've gotten a dozen times over now.
This reminds me somewhat of a young adult book series I adore. Cronache del Mondo Emerso (Chronicles Of The Emerged World) by Licia Troisi, where (in short with some very minor spoilers) the main character is a brash young female warrior who over the course of the trilogy starts to get extremely humbled. Going from basically a wrathful berserker to one who gives up the blade entirely, leaving to start a family on the very edge of the known world. It may not be a legendary masterpiece, but it's something that has stuck with me ever since I first read it when I was 18. Honestly in my humble opinion young adult fantasy peaked in the early 2000s, as back then they were books that were generally suited for all ages. Instead of the shlock that the tag now represents.
I know i saw it as a child, but remember only two things- that it was awesome and one death by something like a set of 3 giant sets of metalic jaws(if it was even from the show). Should really give it a watch again. It´s been at least 20 years.
As an Italian woman who has always considered herself a feminist (meaning an advocate for the equality of the sexes), I'm delighted to hear that Fantaghirò was appreciated and known in Eastern Europe, which I had no idea of! I'm reading the comments here and discovering that Poles, Russians and Czechs all appreciated this character, brought to life by the lovely Alessandra Martines! I always thought these films, that are broadcast around Christmas time in Italy, were not known at all outside of Italy. All the things you listed that are wrong with contemporary "strong" female characters, are totally wrong, and tenfold, about the Galadriel character in The Rings of Power series. I was so looking forward to that spin-off a few years ago, but was very much put off by yet another ridiculously one-dimensional "strong female character" who makes you want to root for the villain. I honestly did not expect perfection (I'm not a Lord of the Rings purist) but I cannot believe what has been done to the fascinating character of Galadriel in that extremely disappointing series! I think the public wants to see the humanity in their character, regardless of gender. A strong MALE character is therefore a man who is also vulnerable at times, who isn't ashamed to show weakness or fear, but will try their best regardless, facing that fear, and summoning their strength even while feeling weaker. And a strong FEMALE character is no different! What these current "strong female characters" are achieving, is to emulate toxic masculinity. A "strong" woman who never shows any vulnerability or imperfection, is exactly what toxic males aspire to be. So why would the liberation of women be achieved by copying all the worst traits of toxic men? It will only make women more toxic, too.
It was very successfull in western Europe also, Germany and Netherlands for example. I grew up with it and she was a role model for me. A girl who knew what she wanted and was ready to fight for it and go a different way. She managed to do all she wanted and still love with all her heart. I wish they would make more characters like that. Though not all of the modern women are badly done. The Fallout series or Pokerface series are both very good with really cool female leads. They do them better in TV compared to movies, especially disney and amazon produce the downright anti-women stuff...because the women in them are so unlikable that they damage feminism.
@@endlessstudent3512 - Thanks for the recommendations - I'm just about to start picking the new series I want to watch, now that autumn is back. I completely agree with you, these horribly written, formulaic "strong" women are giving feminism a bad name. Maybe people who are 30 or older have more cultural context to understand this, but I feel for today's teenagers, though I trust they're intelligent enough to find their way towards better role models than Amazon's Galadriel or the most recent Velma (remember that attempt to destroy Scooby Doo for all its fans?).
i could go on and on about Galadriel . they acually depowered galadriel for ROP. she's one of three charecters ever to have "unamde the foundations of a fortress" but my biggest grip with modern strong female characters is that, being so naturally superior, they never have to struggle or actually prove they have any inner strength.
@@gloriathomas3245 Since when did Buffy show no vulnerability or no imperfections? Have you actually watched it? Buffy has plenty of imperfections and she's often showed as extremely vulnerable (the Master arc is just one example). She gets humbled pretty hard due to her wrong choices (in the Angel arc, for example), and she goes through a tremendous growth as a character.
You're absolutly right. It's not enough give a female character a trope of a toxic male character to make them look strong. Strength means to overcome dilemma or obstacles. We loved Aragorn in the in LOTR Movies, because he could fight the orcs in a glimpse he mourns the death of a comrade with believable tears in his eyes. Let the female protagonists have the same believable range of virtues and emotions.
Yes please! Tell us about more underrated stories! 😊 I really enjoyed this video, as my mum always liked Fantagiro and I grew up watching the animated one - it was pretty good in my oppinion - although I don't remember much from it. (That Mandrake character and the wise catfish stuck with me, for some reason 😊) ah...nostalgia
Some strong female characters for the next time someone says "tHe OnLy StRoNg FeMaLe cHaRaCtErS u KnOw iS RiPlEy FrOm AlIEn!!!1!": Fantaghiro, Wade Wells, Ayrin Soong, Kira Nerheys, Jadzia Dax, Tasha Yar, Capt. Janeway, TPol, Xena the Warrior Princess, Princess Leia, Padme, Myka Bering, Claudia Donovan, Watts, Pepper pots (pre MCU phase 4), black widow (pre MCU phase 4), and a bunch more that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head
One of my childhood's favourite shows. I just claimed that episodes 9&10 did not exist. She'd never leave Romualdo behind for some random swashbuckler.
I'm from Bulgaria and grew up watching Fantaghiro in the 90s and early 2000s. I absolutely love the soundtrack! May I ask where you got the tracks for this video? Some are on TH-cam, but I can't find the epic one from the battle in the castle, the one you've used in this video from 3:25 to about 5:05.
Any woman who believes that women have to control their anger all of the time, but somehow men never have to, is at least as shallow as the men she imagines. Actually worse because not only does she not understand men, she does not get most women, those who aren't angry and resentful all the time.
I loved the series- if only they hadn’t made the last season which gave Fantagiro a new love and kind of trashes all the previous seasons by doing this..
Fantaghiro is the best female character ! I watched this serie every year when it passed on tv on chrismas hollidays, almways made sense to me women colud be as badass as men. Thanks for talking about it !
OH MY GOD!!!! i never managed to see the first seasons in full..... from the start all the way to the end of the Nekrad story arc..... gonna start looking for them now
As an italian who was a kid in 80's and 90's i've seen much of it. General consensus they were enjoyable tv movies but they also were those cringy local production they aired every year around xmas holiday to cover the long afternoon hours along old cheap to air movies, and so were half a dozen derivative production like the above mentioned Princess Desidera, an actually decent sudo-fantasy prirate serie with that actor who played Tarabas in Fantaghiro, and so on
Actually, think about who is last in the production chain. The ones who ultimately take the idea of representation for women and proceed to produce slop are the studios. I wonder whether people, viewing themselves as getting a choice between slop and nothing will defend "their" slop. For something completely different: I kind of love the way the war-ending duel in the first story arc is written and directed as a flirt. It has the budget of an 80s Doctor Who episode and Alessandra Martinez has to use both hands on a one-handed sword, but it's really rather nice. I've been influenced quite a bit by Fantaghiro as a kid and have later had a fight or two like that, and it just feels good.
I have seen these movies as a kid and I really enjoyed them. It was really a wonderful cross-over between fairy tales and legit fantasy for kids who are not quite old enough for something like LOTD. Fantaghiro also seemed like a wonderful, relatable heroine. I think it was also one of the great occasions where this female hero can be quite relatable even to boys, because when you are a young boy you often hear things like "you are not old enough. you are not allowed to do this or that. you have to behave like this or that.". So Fantaghiro is not allowed to do a bunch of things, does them anyway, and she struggles to succeed. That's a good story that kids can enjoy and understand even when they are not activist feminists ;-)
I didn't knew this (very B) TV show made it out of italy. I was teen in the '90s, and my female classmates couldn't just shut up about it xD I watched only the first, proposed in a movie format, than lost interest because kind of meh. But still, yeh, you're right: a good example of girl empowerment done right. If I can quote Q on Jeneway, "You are a strong authority figure without infringing on your stunning femininity", or something like that, I watch it in italian.
Modern strong, female characters aint bad characters, they aint characters at all. The writers obviously dont bother to write well and just want to celebrate themselfs for their "activism". (The same applies to diverse or whatever else)
Great video, as always, thank you! 🙂 If I get it right, they (modern media) often try to justify their choices in the name of "representation", which is just a cheap explanation for pushing their views. The way they portray their female characters almost makes me ashamed for being a woman. I think anybody could relate to any character if they choose to, no matter the physical attributes. As you mentioned, stories are great for gaining new perspectives. I enjoyed playing such games that had a preset male character (like GTA, Gothic, the Witcher etc) just as much as the others where you could choose or create your own. Thanks for the series recommendation as well, haven't heard of it before. Will definitely check it out. Aldo when I think about "badass female character" Buffy comes to mind and maybe the witches from Charmed. Sorry if I didn't make much sense, my English is rusty and I tend to ramble 🙂 Greetings from Hungary
Exactly!!! I'm a girl myself and completely agree!!! I like strong female characters when they go through trail and error just like guys do. Anime and manga does it and don't forget to give the girl characters love interest male love interests which is absolutely adorable nothing wrong with that.
@@candicemceady308Yeah, it is so disappointing what happened to male characters in western media. At best they are completely sidelined, at worst they are made out to be fools to mock. It may sound clishé, but we need both sides, some kind of balance. I think those who had a job at a workplace made up mostly/all female coworkers can relate, but maybe I just had a bad experience, twice.
Thanks for reminding me of this series. As a kid I watched like 2 or 3 of the movies but never the whole thing. Sadly the links you put up are blocked in my country...
I loved and still love Fantaghiro until this day, such a great rich fantasy story also her character was so lovely I remember I was only on elementary school, it wasn't like easy to get information like nowdays on internet but ... i was looking up and reading magazines to learn how it was made and from what country this actress was from... good old times collecting those magazine pages :D hehehe from those old days I also liked Three Wishes for Cinderella which is timeless, Dempsey & Makepeace damn every sunday I've been recording that show on video tape.. and let's don't forget first series of princess Arabela... but nowdays when Disney makes movies none of those modern woke characters are likable
A character without any perceived weaknesses or flaws does not equate to said character being "strong" which is what these modern writers get wrong, that just makes them flat and lacking any depth and no reason why the audience should become invested in the first place. I have never heard of Fantaghiro but just from your description alone and the clips in this video she already seems like a character I can root for.
Per precisione, Fantaghirò non è una creazione originale di Italo Calvino, fu messo su carta da altri due autori prima di lui, Gherardo Nerucci, Vittorio Imbriani, addirittura già nel 1880, ma in realtà la storia è antecedente, si tratta di una fiaba popolare italiana. Poi è vero, nella serie è stato creato un personaggio complesso e non piatto come invece fa il cinema hollywoodiano, il cartone è stato prodotto in spagnolo. Probabilmente la fiaba ha influito in un libro di Calvino, "Il cavaliere inesistente" di genere fantastico, dove c'è una donna guerriero, Bramante.
@@neutronalchemist3241 Certo visto che si parla dei paladini di Francia dei poemi cavallereschi, ma l'impatto sull'autore arriva dalla fiaba che letta o ascoltata da piccolo influisce sulle sue suggestioni e non quanto letto durante l'adolescenza, non chiedo di capire una meccanica cognitiva e formativa.
One of my favorite strong female characters is Samantha Carter from Stargate SG-1. I grew up with this tv-show because my mom was a big fan of the show (we both still watch it again and again) and Sam Carter was just such a role model. She felt human, she made mistakes but still owned them and she still set such an amazing example of a genius women (behold, she is blond and this was during a time the dumb blond trope was very big) and was still very badass. She dealt amazingly with the "but you're a woman" prejudices (one of the first episodes of SG-1 is centered around it but in such a wonderful way, I love to see it while they don't back away from addressing the uncomfortable topics of being a woman). The show had its flaws and sadly MANY of the topics featured in the show couldn't be repeated now bc "modern" audiences would rip it apart for being problematic, when they don't get it's just straight up censorship. I miss the 80s-90s. There were so many beautiful and wonderful female role models who were badass but still had style but god forbid for a woman to wear a dress nowadays bc "that is for the male gaze". Perfect example is the Tomb Raider fandom. The "old" vs. "new" fans of the original series vs. the rebooted series. I liked both, but I also do not appreciate the fact that Lara Croft is changed into something that she just was not. The whole battle about her sexuality, when I sit here and think "Tomb Raider was never about a damn love story, except the one Lara had for tombs and discovering old civilizations". I like these cocky, almost downright arrogant female characters who get downright humbled through the story. What I don't like his cocky, downright arrogant female characters who are even rewarded for being all of this. I understand the anger women have, because believe me, as much as I dislike Captain Marvel, the scene where she beats up the guy who tells her to smile is the dream of every women who has to deal with this kind of behaviour from men almost EVERY day! Is she a good character though? No, hell no. I also do not like the anti-male sentiment that is going hard in the last years. Not all men are assholes, not all women are saints. Women can be just as horrible and inhuman, as some of these assholes of men. It isn't a gender thing. It's a humanity thing. But to explain this nowadays... I would have more luck talking to a wall (at least the wall does not proclaim me a traitor of the female gender, just because I like to point out that men also suffer from the damn "alpha male" agenda in form of "if you show emotions and don't surpress your women, you are a p*ssy". Men should be allowed to show and express their emotions in a healthy way, and women should be allowed to say no and be angry without being deemed "nasty and spiteful". In general, humans should be allowed to be human. Strong female characters have always been one thing: human. And I see again and again... that people forget that.
Oglądałam Fanthagiro jako 8-letnie dziecko. Ale wersję animowaną, która (jak twierdzi wikipedia) jest kompresją wątków z filmów. I nawet to lubiłam. Ale wtedy ja, jako głupie dziecko uważałam że kobieta nie powinna być główną bohaterką i ratować swojego faceta XD. Wiem jakie to jest głupie ale mam wrażenie że hejt na każdą główną postać kobiecą (i to bez względu czy jest napisana dobrze czy źle) to skutek takiego myślenia. Bo Fanthagiro z animacji była trochę Mary Sue ale bardziej jak Usagi czy jak jakaś księżniczka Disneya. Jednak jej pomagierzy jak ten kamień i gęś dużo dawali od siebie i bez nich nasza bohaterka zginęłaby
Fantaghirò is the protagonist of a much older Italian folk tale, first transcribed in 1880. Warrior women have actually existed since ancient times, in command because they were noble.
It's hilarious when they compare her with Luke to say "they are the same". Have you ever seen the movies? Luke fails and needs help repeatedly. He had to be saved two times in the battle of Yavin, then again at the start of The Empire Strikes Back, is shot down in the battle of Hoth, fails his Jedi training, fails to defeat Vader and has to be saved again... He doesn't even decide the outcome of the Battle of Endor. Are Lando Calrissian and Wedge Antilles that destroy the Death Star.
Red Sonya is another warrior princess worthy of mention. Hell, I think the 90s had way more cool female characters than any modern production combined - which is zero btw...
"Because strong female characters have never been done before" - Some modern audience writer.
"No you just havent been watching them or lack media comprehension" - Anyone whoever watched a decent amount of movies.
Or alternatively: "You cleary have no idea what a strong character is". Because a lot of the time it seems like they mistake being an asshole for strength.
@@friendcomputer5276 Or making them a near emotionless gun machine
no modern audience writer is saying this wtf are you on about
@@yersiniapestis5237 I know that we like to treat the disney star wars trillogy like an unproduct that never existed, but you really don't remeber that utter clusterfuck that was it's marketing? Because the people who made that slop did indeed prance around like they were the ones to have invented the concpet of "strong female charcater"
I'm a simple girl. I see Fantaghiro, I click.
There are people outside Italy who know about Fantaghirò ? I'm blown away by it.
@@AgagaSnsns Yup. In Brazil I only found the second movie simply titled "A Lenda da Princesa Rebelde", it had a professional editing in the VHS release and also a cast of highly recognizable voice actors from the 90s. I remember that unless you had access to vídeo rental shops (which my mom owned back before DVDs became the new thing, so that's why I had access to it), almost no one spoke of it. I tried searching for the other movies dubbed in Portuguese, but found none, so I kinda had to watch in Italian or English.
There are people outside of Italy of cause. And yrs, the dragon ring is from the same producers, starring Franco Nero and Sophie von Kessel. I still have the VHS 😊.
@@AgagaSnsns I am from Greece and I also grew up with Fantaghiro!!
@@AgagaSnsns Absolutely! I am from Germany, and they would show parts 1 and 2 one Christmas, next year 1 to 4, the year after 1 to 6, and so on. I absolutely loved this show. Like this video said: There wasn't that much fantasy on our tv back then.
Strange thing is, this is exactly the character arc we have ALWAYS seen with male heroes. Joseph Campbell laid this out 75 years ago but, for some obscure reason, modern media has decided that female heroes must be mary sue perfection from the start.
Because that is who women are. No learning, complete denial of any fault, no hint of discomfort. This is why every relationship fails, because women destroy everything.
Xena doesn't get talked about enough. Holy shit that show, character of Xena and Lucy Lawless were freaking epic!
And it was even better than the alter-ego show Hercules with male protagonists. Xena was much more badass and mesmerizing than Hercules.
I still own the entire series on VHS!😀
Xena was fun. Very masculine energy and attitiude yet could deal so well with feelings too.
@@andrewshaughnessy5828 Jealous, I want a remastered video collection
I've never heard, or seen, Fantaghiro. But now, somehow, i need to try and find them to watch. Thank you for bringing them to my attention 😃
The links for the series are in the description. Enjoy 😉
It is great, not taking itself seriously, yet not making a joke of itself.
Lamberto Bava, the director of all five "Fantaghirò" films, also produced other Italian fantasy films such as "Desideria and The Dragon Ring", "Alizea/Little Sister and the Prince of Dreams" and "The Princess Mirabella and the Pauper Boy/Plebeian Boy". Amedeo Minghi instead composed wonderful soundtracks for all these films!!!
Hi from Lithuania, I also grew up with "Cave of the Golden Rose" and "The Dragon Ring". I really enjoyed your video! Please make more. Not a lot of people are talking about these productions. Fantaghiro was a very formative character for me growing up
You'd probably be surprised to know Fantaghiro was often on TV in the former Soviet Union in the nineties and early two-thousands. I remember enjoying it very much. The US really missed out on this one. I even saw the animated spinoff show later, when it was on TV in my country as well.
I'm Polish. Can confirm.
Can confirm. Watched it on TV when I was a kid.
really? I thought it was famous just in italy. My goodness, that made my day hahaha
@@AndreaFasaniin Russia we watched it , too. Loved it as a kid. And still remember =)
Polish here, aswell. When Americans kept droning about "no female heroes" I was like "Fatraghiro, bruh?" A whole series, too. More movies than Star Wars have.
The armors in Fantaghiro looks better than in Rings of Power. Honor and glory to the Smithis of Bohemia.
They're making a Fantaghiro remake? I think we all know exactly how this is going to end up.
Oh god please no. What's happened in the past years to many classics is the media equivalent of grave desecration. Can't they write something new?
@@alexschwarz4749, uh...no. I think that everyone knows that the "new" characters they invented are as gay as the rebooted versions of old characters
@@Zaphod771 They will make her black I am certain of it.
I’m Italian and I grew up with Fantaghiro ❤
I'm simple Polish man, I see Fantaghirò, I click thumb up.
Fantaghiro and Dr. Quinn - Medicine Woman were my life force growing up.
Thank you for making content such as this. It's one of the main reasons why I like your chanel so much. It's great to learn about media that I wouldn't have heard about otherwise. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying the videos 🙂 I’ll definitely create more content in the future about lesser-known media 😉
Ah, Fantaghiro...now that's a name I hadn't heard in a long time...thank you for reminding me of her :) .
Loved watching this fairy tale as a kid, I loved the Black Witch. And of course the main musical theme is a masterpiece, still often plays in my head.
Yeah, the Black Witch woke up something in me 😅 But she was really just a cool over the top villain 🙂 I really liked her knights but looking back at it, their armors are ridiculous (especially the oversized helmets). But when I was a kid they seemed really cool to me just because they wore black and were mostly silent (sort of like Boba Fett or even better, Darth Maul) 😁 Even the king seemed cooler when he was in black with that iron mask 🖤 That whole aesthetic was pretty metal 😃 I also loved Tarabas 😁
Yeah, I've seen this as a kid too, Fantagiro was one of my first crushes. Funnily enough I completely forgot the name of this series and struggled to remember it about a decade later when I first got access to internet. Then something prompted me to remember it (or maybe I stumbled upon it), and that was like the best nostalgia rush!😄
Your video made me realize that it's in Italian, and I wanted to learn the language some years ago. Maybe I'll start with Fantagiro.🙄
I don't think I had ever heard of Fantaghiro before, but now I want to watch it.
Ohh Fantaghiro! In Poland we had it on TV too. Great series with such charm.
I'm from Czechia and enjoyed this series a lot as a child when it was on TV!
I'll have to take a look at this series. I really liked the sisters' armour, as it looks like it's actually made to protect them!
Great video and suggestion. Thank you!
Fantagiro fights for her Love ( till the last two Episodes, they got a horrible end ) and to save her Kingdom, has a Mentor who teaches her how to use a Sword and was careful for weaker People ( especially Children) . She would never have a chance today with such a noble Character. We live in the dark Age of Guyladriel and Rey Nameless.
I'm french and I also grew up with the Cave of the Golden Rose, I was an addict of the series! 90's European kids all united under Fantaghirò's banner ✊
Excellent analysis and a great trip down memory-lane! I very much enjoyed watching Fantaghiro back in the day. The story was richly imaginative, the characters likable (that talking rock was so original!) and having genuine individuality - and of course Alessandra Martines nailed the lead role. The first 3 films were superb, but alas after that the story seemed to trail off completely. One of my favourite characters was Tarabas and his journey from antagonist to protagonist. It was only much later that I discovered that the word 'Fantaghiro' means capable, ambitious, and resourceful. It was super that you put the original soundtrack in the background of the video - I actually learnt to play it on the piano back in the day (and still to this day), it's just SO good! Thank you not only for the upload - but also for providing the links to the Italian version. It's going to be a VERY interesting thing to rewatch this series as a grumpy old bear that I am now. Oh, and I hope beyond hope they DON'T do a remake - nothing can compare to the original. That was the Magic of the early 90's!
Thanks for the nice comment ❤️
It wasn't Christmas without Fantaghirò on television in Italy.
That's why, during my first trip to the Czech Republic, I wanted to visit the beautiful Bouzov Castle, and I continue to return almost every year!
I watched animated series growing up in Serbia 20 years ago. It was great, each episode brought something new. The intro song is still playing in my head.
Thank you for the link so i can watch Fantaghiro. I have not heard about it before
Great video. I also watched Fantagiro when i was a kid. I feel lucky being European. There are no shows like that anymore. Characters were really growing, learning from their mistakes. Nowadays they come already all knowing and act cocky. Then, they were going on adventured and we were watching leisurely. Today we are only lectured about this and that from the screen.
I just remembered another female lead from those times, but it's animation series ''Marianne Premiere''.
Now this brings back memories! In the 90s, Fantaghiro movies were broadcast on Italian tv around Christmas, and I remember really enjoying them as a kid (at least the first three).
And indeed, Fantaghiro was an engaging character because she went from a rather insufferable brat to a kind-hearted badass, and I remember that as a kid I found her becoming a knight-pricess by overcoming all the challenges in front of her to be really cool.
Modern Hollywood woke female lead are despised by most not really because of politics but because they are badly written characters with the depth of a puddle, who essentially amount as power fantasies of their (activist) writers.
Well said 🙂
Not only were these "modern" characters "always perfect from the start, just repressed", they are also quite often not nice people, instead they are often really mean, condecending, amoral - you name it.
Thank you for making this video. Fantaghiro was a classic series and I grew up on the series as well! Despite the relative lower production values compared to modern day productions, the series of movies from 1- 4 (because I don't consider the 5th at all) was a beautiful resonating adaptation of that classic tale that presented a great tale with a female heroine who wasn't a "girl boss" but had heroic qualities and managed to save those she loved using her skills, her wit and with the help of her companions. The series had an incredible OST and beautiful medieval European aesthetics. If there is anything that deserves to be remade with a big budget it's Fantaghiro because it actually deserves to have proper respectful modern adaptation with a big budget whether as a series of films of a live action tv show. She was a perfect character for Hollywood to adapt and they never did. Perhaps it's better if they don't try because they can't create compelling, believable female characters anymore.
Well said 🙂 And yeah, I would love the idea of a Fantaghiro remake, but it would have to be made by someone who genuinely wants to tell a good story, without the temptation to insert preachy politics into it. And I would still want them to be true to the original series in some aspects that were great about the original.
@@FolkWalkCZ i would like a remake too. but i never really understand the film with the vegetebales .in prior films she fights for her family and loved ones .but in this she goes never back to her familiy and begins a new life with a new lover. but her husband from the other movies was still alive, if i remember correctly.
Thanx for this! Yes, please do something on The Dragon Ring and any other TV/movies that would be new to a lot of people, even if these have been around for decades. I just subscribed! :)
OMG this looks so familiar!! Did i watch an English dubbed version of this in my youth?
Tks for reminding us of this!! ❤
thank you so much for the links boss!! this is a really great video and proper homage to a classic that doesnt deserve to remain in the shadows
No problem 😉
Loved it as a kid!
Aim for the sun!
I didn't know Fantaghirò was known outside of Italy.
I recommend everyone checks it out with their kids or young siblings. ❤
I think this so often happens, society has a shift and there's a course change. I feel like in the 90s this had happened for women's roles and also although to lesser degree but definetely moving so for gay people. It was more organic and balanced. Then people were digging it and feeling rewarded and it became a flooded market eventually flogging a dead horse and overreacting to milk the movement to a no longer positive but rather destructive degree. I think this pretty much encompasses much of the state of current social justice movements. Historically there is a tendency for the oppressed to become oppressors if they get an upper hand.
@@elizaj4431 Yeah, I agree with everything you said.
Kim Rossi Stuart, my first love. 😍
For a low budget show the costumes still look better than the Netflix Witcher show
Only watched one Fantaghiro movie as a kid, didn't know there were more. Saw it on Aussie tv a couple times, named some of my game characters Fantaghiro too.
New movies to watch and new cosplay goals. What a great start to the day.
OH MY GOSH I JUST WATCHED PART ONE AND IT WAS SO FUN!
The extending beard as he lists all the things she must promise, trying to vent her frustration on things but then they're all sentient, I don't know why but I loved the goose so much!
I'm from Germany and I love Fantaghiro. As a child we even had the VHS cassette box at home. Apart from Pocahontas I was never interested in Disney, but always Fantaghiro💕 I just love the vibe and fairy tale world, the music, costumes and story, even though as a child I was really scared of the captain from the last two parts because I really thought he was a wooden doll that would then be eaten by the woodworms😯😦 But I thought the last two parts were stupid anyway because she didn't go back to Romualdo and her family.
Oh and I was also a bit scared of Tarabas' army as a child😅
Sigh, Tarabas was great.
But nonetheless she is and will remain my favorite princess and a big part of my childhood😊
The Fantaghiro movies were some of my favourites when I was a kid in the 90s, especially the first one! Those and Desideria and The Dragon Ring :)
Always happy to see another video here.
as an italian I am actually proud that fantaghirò is famouse outside Italy and seens as a proper strong female rather than the crap that's on tv nowadays
Thank you for throwing this out there ❤
The character is only as smart as the writer. The same goes for morals and everything else. These new "strong female lead" characters are written by incompetent, evil and obnoxious people so obviously it reflects in their character as well.
I'm genuinely curious as to how long it's gonna take Hollywood to give us well written strong females that have more expression and life than "lifeless husk of decaying wood" we've gotten a dozen times over now.
Fantaghiro!!! A whole part of my childhood was just unlocked
This reminds me somewhat of a young adult book series I adore. Cronache del Mondo Emerso (Chronicles Of The Emerged World) by Licia Troisi, where (in short with some very minor spoilers) the main character is a brash young female warrior who over the course of the trilogy starts to get extremely humbled. Going from basically a wrathful berserker to one who gives up the blade entirely, leaving to start a family on the very edge of the known world. It may not be a legendary masterpiece, but it's something that has stuck with me ever since I first read it when I was 18.
Honestly in my humble opinion young adult fantasy peaked in the early 2000s, as back then they were books that were generally suited for all ages. Instead of the shlock that the tag now represents.
I know i saw it as a child, but remember only two things- that it was awesome and one death by something like a set of 3 giant sets of metalic jaws(if it was even from the show). Should really give it a watch again. It´s been at least 20 years.
I'll definitely watch through a nice classic fantasy series.
As an Italian woman who has always considered herself a feminist (meaning an advocate for the equality of the sexes), I'm delighted to hear that Fantaghirò was appreciated and known in Eastern Europe, which I had no idea of! I'm reading the comments here and discovering that Poles, Russians and Czechs all appreciated this character, brought to life by the lovely Alessandra Martines! I always thought these films, that are broadcast around Christmas time in Italy, were not known at all outside of Italy.
All the things you listed that are wrong with contemporary "strong" female characters, are totally wrong, and tenfold, about the Galadriel character in The Rings of Power series. I was so looking forward to that spin-off a few years ago, but was very much put off by yet another ridiculously one-dimensional "strong female character" who makes you want to root for the villain. I honestly did not expect perfection (I'm not a Lord of the Rings purist) but I cannot believe what has been done to the fascinating character of Galadriel in that extremely disappointing series! I think the public wants to see the humanity in their character, regardless of gender. A strong MALE character is therefore a man who is also vulnerable at times, who isn't ashamed to show weakness or fear, but will try their best regardless, facing that fear, and summoning their strength even while feeling weaker. And a strong FEMALE character is no different! What these current "strong female characters" are achieving, is to emulate toxic masculinity. A "strong" woman who never shows any vulnerability or imperfection, is exactly what toxic males aspire to be. So why would the liberation of women be achieved by copying all the worst traits of toxic men? It will only make women more toxic, too.
It was very successfull in western Europe also, Germany and Netherlands for example. I grew up with it and she was a role model for me. A girl who knew what she wanted and was ready to fight for it and go a different way. She managed to do all she wanted and still love with all her heart. I wish they would make more characters like that. Though not all of the modern women are badly done. The Fallout series or Pokerface series are both very good with really cool female leads. They do them better in TV compared to movies, especially disney and amazon produce the downright anti-women stuff...because the women in them are so unlikable that they damage feminism.
@@endlessstudent3512 - Thanks for the recommendations - I'm just about to start picking the new series I want to watch, now that autumn is back. I completely agree with you, these horribly written, formulaic "strong" women are giving feminism a bad name. Maybe people who are 30 or older have more cultural context to understand this, but I feel for today's teenagers, though I trust they're intelligent enough to find their way towards better role models than Amazon's Galadriel or the most recent Velma (remember that attempt to destroy Scooby Doo for all its fans?).
i could go on and on about Galadriel . they acually depowered galadriel for ROP. she's one of three charecters ever to have "unamde the foundations of a fortress"
but my biggest grip with modern strong female characters is that, being so naturally superior, they never have to struggle or actually prove they have any inner strength.
@@danielaf1487 so you're basically saying that a character like Buffy The Vampire Slayer is problematic to you then?
@@gloriathomas3245 Since when did Buffy show no vulnerability or no imperfections? Have you actually watched it? Buffy has plenty of imperfections and she's often showed as extremely vulnerable (the Master arc is just one example).
She gets humbled pretty hard due to her wrong choices (in the Angel arc, for example), and she goes through a tremendous growth as a character.
Thank you for covering this classic tale :)
The Fantaghiro series were my introduction to Brigitte Nielsen
You're absolutly right. It's not enough give a female character a trope of a toxic male character to make them look strong. Strength means to overcome dilemma or obstacles.
We loved Aragorn in the in LOTR Movies, because he could fight the orcs in a glimpse he mourns the death of a comrade with believable tears in his eyes. Let the female protagonists have the same believable range of virtues and emotions.
Fantaghiro was my hero as a child - alnog with Alana of Trebond of the Lioness book-series Tamora Pierce wrote.
Yes please! Tell us about more underrated stories! 😊
I really enjoyed this video, as my mum always liked Fantagiro and I grew up watching the animated one - it was pretty good in my oppinion - although I don't remember much from it. (That Mandrake character and the wise catfish stuck with me, for some reason 😊) ah...nostalgia
Some strong female characters for the next time someone says "tHe OnLy StRoNg FeMaLe cHaRaCtErS u KnOw iS RiPlEy FrOm AlIEn!!!1!": Fantaghiro, Wade Wells, Ayrin Soong, Kira Nerheys, Jadzia Dax, Tasha Yar, Capt. Janeway, TPol, Xena the Warrior Princess, Princess Leia, Padme, Myka Bering, Claudia Donovan, Watts, Pepper pots (pre MCU phase 4), black widow (pre MCU phase 4), and a bunch more that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head
Korra, the Legend of Korra
Toph Beifong, Katara, Suki, and Azula
One of my childhood's favourite shows. I just claimed that episodes 9&10 did not exist. She'd never leave Romualdo behind for some random swashbuckler.
Same here. Fantagiro only had 3 seasons, and that is the end of discussion :)
I remember both live-action and animated Fantagiro.
This name, I swear I remember it from ages ago a old animation
Plus that one rock who always wanted to fight
In the USA the movie was called "The cave of the Golden Rose" if i recall right.
I want to see it, it looks fantastic!
I have the dvd-box and every now and then i watch the entire series (even the bad last story with the wooden doll villain)
Thank you for introducing me to such an interesting story.
You can watch the series on TH-cam with English subs.
I'm from Bulgaria and grew up watching Fantaghiro in the 90s and early 2000s. I absolutely love the soundtrack! May I ask where you got the tracks for this video? Some are on TH-cam, but I can't find the epic one from the battle in the castle, the one you've used in this video from 3:25 to about 5:05.
You mean this one? th-cam.com/video/SNeI0OMRU6c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=J2hw7rn45DXGuCCO
@@FolkWalkCZ Oh, yes! Thank you so much! (^-^)
Nice! I wasn't aware of this series, and I've been to Český Krumlov.
Any woman who believes that women have to control their anger all of the time, but somehow men never have to, is at least as shallow as the men she imagines. Actually worse because not only does she not understand men, she does not get most women, those who aren't angry and resentful all the time.
Because, they didn’t have DEI activitists around
I loved the series- if only they hadn’t made the last season which gave Fantagiro a new love and kind of trashes all the previous seasons by doing this..
That main actress looks like a British actress I remember from a few movies. Prince of Persia was one of them.
Fantaghiro is the best female character ! I watched this serie every year when it passed on tv on chrismas hollidays, almways made sense to me women colud be as badass as men. Thanks for talking about it !
I ve also watched the most of the movies in my childhood😂
I loved it as a kid. ❤
OH MY GOD!!!! i never managed to see the first seasons in full..... from the start all the way to the end of the Nekrad story arc..... gonna start looking for them now
I loved this so much.
I clicked because I recognized her face.
🥰
As an italian who was a kid in 80's and 90's i've seen much of it. General consensus they were enjoyable tv movies but they also were those cringy local production they aired every year around xmas holiday to cover the long afternoon hours along old cheap to air movies, and so were half a dozen derivative production like the above mentioned Princess Desidera, an actually decent sudo-fantasy prirate serie with that actor who played Tarabas in Fantaghiro, and so on
Sono d'accordo con Virokka, saluti da Filkarion
@@Animiel1 Piacere di sentirti!
Actually, think about who is last in the production chain. The ones who ultimately take the idea of representation for women and proceed to produce slop are the studios. I wonder whether people, viewing themselves as getting a choice between slop and nothing will defend "their" slop.
For something completely different: I kind of love the way the war-ending duel in the first story arc is written and directed as a flirt. It has the budget of an 80s Doctor Who episode and Alessandra Martinez has to use both hands on a one-handed sword, but it's really rather nice. I've been influenced quite a bit by Fantaghiro as a kid and have later had a fight or two like that, and it just feels good.
I have seen these movies as a kid and I really enjoyed them. It was really a wonderful cross-over between fairy tales and legit fantasy for kids who are not quite old enough for something like LOTD. Fantaghiro also seemed like a wonderful, relatable heroine. I think it was also one of the great occasions where this female hero can be quite relatable even to boys, because when you are a young boy you often hear things like "you are not old enough. you are not allowed to do this or that. you have to behave like this or that.". So Fantaghiro is not allowed to do a bunch of things, does them anyway, and she struggles to succeed. That's a good story that kids can enjoy and understand even when they are not activist feminists ;-)
I watched those movies as a kid. I don't remember much, tbh, except the feeling of an underlying sadness.
I didn't knew this (very B) TV show made it out of italy. I was teen in the '90s, and my female classmates couldn't just shut up about it xD I watched only the first, proposed in a movie format, than lost interest because kind of meh. But still, yeh, you're right: a good example of girl empowerment done right. If I can quote Q on Jeneway, "You are a strong authority figure without infringing on your stunning femininity", or something like that, I watch it in italian.
Modern strong, female characters aint bad characters, they aint characters at all. The writers obviously dont bother to write well and just want to celebrate themselfs for their "activism".
(The same applies to diverse or whatever else)
Great video, as always, thank you! 🙂
If I get it right, they (modern media) often try to justify their choices in the name of "representation", which is just a cheap explanation for pushing their views. The way they portray their female characters almost makes me ashamed for being a woman. I think anybody could relate to any character if they choose to, no matter the physical attributes. As you mentioned, stories are great for gaining new perspectives. I enjoyed playing such games that had a preset male character (like GTA, Gothic, the Witcher etc) just as much as the others where you could choose or create your own.
Thanks for the series recommendation as well, haven't heard of it before. Will definitely check it out.
Aldo when I think about "badass female character" Buffy comes to mind and maybe the witches from Charmed.
Sorry if I didn't make much sense, my English is rusty and I tend to ramble 🙂
Greetings from Hungary
Exactly!!! I'm a girl myself and completely agree!!! I like strong female characters when they go through trail and error just like guys do. Anime and manga does it and don't forget to give the girl characters love interest male love interests which is absolutely adorable nothing wrong with that.
@@candicemceady308Yeah, it is so disappointing what happened to male characters in western media. At best they are completely sidelined, at worst they are made out to be fools to mock. It may sound clishé, but we need both sides, some kind of balance. I think those who had a job at a workplace made up mostly/all female coworkers can relate, but maybe I just had a bad experience, twice.
Thanks for reminding me of this series. As a kid I watched like 2 or 3 of the movies but never the whole thing. Sadly the links you put up are blocked in my country...
Try VPN or maybe find a version that's in your native language if it exists.
I loved and still love Fantaghiro until this day, such a great rich fantasy story also her character was so lovely I remember I was only on elementary school, it wasn't like easy to get information like nowdays on internet but ... i was looking up and reading magazines to learn how it was made and from what country this actress was from... good old times collecting those magazine pages :D hehehe from those old days I also liked Three Wishes for Cinderella which is timeless, Dempsey & Makepeace damn every sunday I've been recording that show on video tape.. and let's don't forget first series of princess Arabela... but nowdays when Disney makes movies none of those modern woke characters are likable
Good video. Cheers!
A character without any perceived weaknesses or flaws does not equate to said character being "strong" which is what these modern writers get wrong, that just makes them flat and lacking any depth and no reason why the audience should become invested in the first place. I have never heard of Fantaghiro but just from your description alone and the clips in this video she already seems like a character I can root for.
Good point 🙂
Per precisione, Fantaghirò non è una creazione originale di Italo Calvino, fu messo su carta da altri due autori prima di lui, Gherardo Nerucci, Vittorio Imbriani, addirittura già nel 1880, ma in realtà la storia è antecedente, si tratta di una fiaba popolare italiana. Poi è vero, nella serie è stato creato un personaggio complesso e non piatto come invece fa il cinema hollywoodiano, il cartone è stato prodotto in spagnolo. Probabilmente la fiaba ha influito in un libro di Calvino, "Il cavaliere inesistente" di genere fantastico, dove c'è una donna guerriero, Bramante.
Bradamante. La quale viene dritta dall'Orlando Furioso dell'Ariosto.
@@neutronalchemist3241 Certo visto che si parla dei paladini di Francia dei poemi cavallereschi, ma l'impatto sull'autore arriva dalla fiaba che letta o ascoltata da piccolo influisce sulle sue suggestioni e non quanto letto durante l'adolescenza, non chiedo di capire una meccanica cognitiva e formativa.
Back when story mattered.
One of my favorite strong female characters is Samantha Carter from Stargate SG-1. I grew up with this tv-show because my mom was a big fan of the show (we both still watch it again and again) and Sam Carter was just such a role model. She felt human, she made mistakes but still owned them and she still set such an amazing example of a genius women (behold, she is blond and this was during a time the dumb blond trope was very big) and was still very badass. She dealt amazingly with the "but you're a woman" prejudices (one of the first episodes of SG-1 is centered around it but in such a wonderful way, I love to see it while they don't back away from addressing the uncomfortable topics of being a woman). The show had its flaws and sadly MANY of the topics featured in the show couldn't be repeated now bc "modern" audiences would rip it apart for being problematic, when they don't get it's just straight up censorship.
I miss the 80s-90s. There were so many beautiful and wonderful female role models who were badass but still had style but god forbid for a woman to wear a dress nowadays bc "that is for the male gaze". Perfect example is the Tomb Raider fandom. The "old" vs. "new" fans of the original series vs. the rebooted series. I liked both, but I also do not appreciate the fact that Lara Croft is changed into something that she just was not. The whole battle about her sexuality, when I sit here and think "Tomb Raider was never about a damn love story, except the one Lara had for tombs and discovering old civilizations".
I like these cocky, almost downright arrogant female characters who get downright humbled through the story. What I don't like his cocky, downright arrogant female characters who are even rewarded for being all of this. I understand the anger women have, because believe me, as much as I dislike Captain Marvel, the scene where she beats up the guy who tells her to smile is the dream of every women who has to deal with this kind of behaviour from men almost EVERY day! Is she a good character though? No, hell no. I also do not like the anti-male sentiment that is going hard in the last years. Not all men are assholes, not all women are saints. Women can be just as horrible and inhuman, as some of these assholes of men. It isn't a gender thing. It's a humanity thing. But to explain this nowadays... I would have more luck talking to a wall (at least the wall does not proclaim me a traitor of the female gender, just because I like to point out that men also suffer from the damn "alpha male" agenda in form of "if you show emotions and don't surpress your women, you are a p*ssy". Men should be allowed to show and express their emotions in a healthy way, and women should be allowed to say no and be angry without being deemed "nasty and spiteful". In general, humans should be allowed to be human.
Strong female characters have always been one thing: human. And I see again and again... that people forget that.
Oglądałam Fanthagiro jako 8-letnie dziecko. Ale wersję animowaną, która (jak twierdzi wikipedia) jest kompresją wątków z filmów. I nawet to lubiłam. Ale wtedy ja, jako głupie dziecko uważałam że kobieta nie powinna być główną bohaterką i ratować swojego faceta XD. Wiem jakie to jest głupie ale mam wrażenie że hejt na każdą główną postać kobiecą (i to bez względu czy jest napisana dobrze czy źle) to skutek takiego myślenia.
Bo Fanthagiro z animacji była trochę Mary Sue ale bardziej jak Usagi czy jak jakaś księżniczka Disneya. Jednak jej pomagierzy jak ten kamień i gęś dużo dawali od siebie i bez nich nasza bohaterka zginęłaby
Fantaghirò is the protagonist of a much older Italian folk tale, first transcribed in 1880. Warrior women have actually existed since ancient times, in command because they were noble.
The only person in this world who can not be helped; is the one who refuses to be.
They dropped the ball with Rei really
She could have been great
It's hilarious when they compare her with Luke to say "they are the same".
Have you ever seen the movies? Luke fails and needs help repeatedly. He had to be saved two times in the battle of Yavin, then again at the start of The Empire Strikes Back, is shot down in the battle of Hoth, fails his Jedi training, fails to defeat Vader and has to be saved again... He doesn't even decide the outcome of the Battle of Endor. Are Lando Calrissian and Wedge Antilles that destroy the Death Star.
@@neutronalchemist3241MatPat made a theory that she is a reincarnation of Palpatine. Because yes she is that evil
Where I live the series was pretty popular in the Goth scene in the 90s.
First all girls had a crush on Romulado - until Tarabas entered the scene.
I always say that while younger kids had their teams vampire vs team werewolf, we had very strong debates about team Romualdo vs team Tarabas
I loved the movies as a kid and watched them with my mom.
Wow! Alessandra Martines is looking very beautiful and gorgeous! 😍😍😍😍❤❤❤❤
I'd love to hear you talk about "The Dragon Ring," & other fantasy series.
The importance of stories to humans only makes their current vandalism more damaging.
Red Sonya is another warrior princess worthy of mention. Hell, I think the 90s had way more cool female characters than any modern production combined - which is zero btw...