This is the Unluckiest Constituency in the Country | Moya goes to Ashfield
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- Moya Lothian-McLean went to the constituency of Ashfield in Nottinghamshire to find out if Lee Anderson will lose his seat. Tune in for decaying high streets, Enoch Powell apologists and a General Election mired in scandal.
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Fairly depressing. When someone says that Enoch Powell had the right idea and suggesting you are not British then our country definitely needs help!
And to her face as well! There's a real ugilyness to the way some people think
I don’t think the Enoch Powell fan girl realised how offensive she was being!
She speaks the truth so dis Enoch
@@philiphall8325I thought the opposite. I thought she looked quite smug and proud of herself being so blatantly racist.
@@NickHalley-g7e dis he really? is yous shore abot that? Classic online troll
Respect to Moya for dealing with such blatant racism, shocking to see in this day and age. Age is no excuse imho.
@DonaldDonaldson-ug9lp Do the values include telling someone of colour that they aren't british even though they were born and raised here? Interesting values indeed
@DonaldDonaldson-ug9lp Public decency and respect were some of the cornerstones of old school society. That much is universal, though I would also point out that the battle of britain would not have been won had the polish volunteers not gotten involved.
Yes, things have changed but you can't explain that sort of rhetoric away by saying that what she said was based on nostalgia.
@DonaldDonaldson-ug9lp It isn't really feminism. Before I say more, out of the gate, it is great that no longer are half of the population dissuaded from working and the other expected to be the breadwinner. Now I would say although for a three generation household to work yeah one of the children of the elderly needs to be at home, but it could also work in an feminist society i.e. where man and woman are treated equally. What makes the bigger difference from my view is that alongside feminism we now place more importance on the pursuing individual ambitions than serving the family
I know 80 year olds with more progressive views. It's not all about age, and alot to do with family, the papers you read and ideas you want to engage with
@@smartypants7284Not making assumptions about your case specifically, but its easy to be ‘progressive’ when you don’t live somewhere like Ashfield.
Saw this live and the bare-faced racism towards Moya from that one lady was genuinely breathtaking. Imagine actually saying Enoch Powell had the right idea, mind-blowing ignorance.
Indeed, thoughtless and sick and against all historical reality and facticity.
Well, she was honest and can’t change if that’s how she feels and thinks
She said she won't vote but she will for reform. Because she's a terrible person.
@@charlotte1369 I appreciate when people with these kinds of views are upfront with their bigotry, it makes them easier to challenge. But she 100% needs to change how she thinks and feels if that involves telling non-white British people TO THEIR FACE that they need to go back to their own country. Insane behaviour.
@@charlotte1369 still ignorant though!
I'm 70 and cringe at the ignorance of my generation.😱
I’m Irish and recoil at the political illiteracy of the British, by which I mean the ENGLISH….. Self-Harm doesnt get close to it.
lots of retired people voting for less immigration...where are the tax going to come from with a smaller workforce? Literal turkeys voting for Christmas again....
You're a rockstar Pat!
I'm a silverback, five years away from my state pension, i'd sincerely like more immigration from all over the world and easier legal routes for working immigrant families to get to the UK and join the woad and warm beer tribe. The politician class has spaffed all the money we paid in national insurance on rewarding faux capitalists. We need immigration now to keep our next pension payments arriving and to have any hope of our public services ever improving, now and for future generations.
I’m the same age and find the ignorance shocking. In our teens we anticipated a cultural revolution to bring about a better and more caring world. Is this really what we’ve come to? 😢
Oh Moya. I hate that you took that racism in your stride like that. It just shows how much you've experienced. We need more people like you in the world and less people like her. That's for damn sure.
Simp
Hey Moya. You should hold that Labour candidate to account for saying White Man's Tears are his fave drink. Blatant racism.
@@KelculesIIII think tears of impotent rage are tastier but I'll take white men's tears as a substitute
The classic racist line....I'm not racist, but...
They're more worried about getting their feelings hurt than self-evaluation.
Strange how that phrase only applies to one topic too. You never hear ''i'm not a particle physicist, but...
@@alexharrison9340 ''i'm not a particle physicist, but immigrants should physically depart"
@@forestsunset9617 Which ones? Picts, Germans, Romans, Vikings, French, Welsh?
@@alexharrison9340 - as a gay man I have heard this turn of phrase used in other contexts many times … :-(
The guy wearing the Cross Hatch hoodie talked more sense in two minutes than Lee Anderthal did in his political career.
LOL Lee Anderthal 😝
I admit I prejudged him and wasn't expecting much but by the end of his speech, I was cheering for him. Good man with his head screwed on.
Novara literally found the only lefty in the village 😂 he was great!
@@jenniferfarmer3618 a Private Eye joke I believe.
Also goes by 30p leenoch
Wow! Well done for not reacting to the "Your not English". You should win an award for that level of journalistic professionalism. Wow. Just wow!
I dont know what shocked me more , the actual statement or having the lack of self awareness ( or some would say balls ) to say it to another human beings face.
The woman clearly think she's too old to give a f......maybe there should be an upper age limit for voting too...
@@CPDCT Defo, voting for a future you won't be a part of should be questioned at least.
OMG. I can‘t believe she said that.
The replacement is racist.
“After this interview I will be returning to Herefordshire.”
Brilliant.
Best response Moyà could have given 😂
Did anyone ask the residents of Herefordshire whether they want her?
@@robintveit3619 Did anyone ask her if she wants her neighbours in Herefordshire? She is English, after all.
@@robintveit3619did your parents want you?
@@johnmckiernan2176 Well the neighbours of Herefordshire are the Welsh, think the answer circa 6th century onwards as to if they wanted all of these Germanic English as neighbours was "NO" and the answer has still not changed much in 1500 years.
"I'm not racist but ....."
How are all these small boats getting to Ashfield? Are they sneaking along the Erewash Canal?
_..good question…_ 🤷♂️😬
😂😂 I've boated along the erewash canal and let me tell you -it ain't easy! Shallow, feral gangs of (all white) kids, feral late night drunks (all white) and caught someone trying to break into our boat (also white-and drunk). Prolly not relevant but your comment made me nearly spit my coffee 😂😂
On the Bus / Taxi..have you noticed more are here.
It’s always the places with the least immigrants that are most concerned with them.
But, but but but...there's hardly room to move in those bustling streets and can't hear yourself think for all the vibrant foreign voices and the beating of the drums...Friday morning in Ashfield! Now this has been shown everyone will want to go and live there.
Good point mate. Fear of difference maybe or not having watched Invasion of the Body Snattc
Snatchers, sorry.
no it isnt? sweden, germany, france, denmark, finland, netherlands and austria have all done a complete 180 of refugee and immigration policy.
Spot on. It's so interesting isn't it. The places with the immigrants don't care. But the places not "affected" are quaking in their boots.
I’m totally shocked how that 80 year old woman could say that to your face. What a disgusting despicable racist. We all love the work you do so so much and actually you are my favourite presenter and journalist on Novara (also love the rest of you!).
Blame the immigrants for their problems and not 14 years of tory policies
45 years of Tory policies, really. The last crowd were just the most incompetent of a series of poor governments.
Labour won’t be any better, if you think they will be, you are an utter fool. Would agree the Tories are terrible but Labour are a different side of the same coin.
@@marymungleandmidge4080 Why do you think I said the last 45 years? Blairite Labour = Red Tories. The problem is Toryism. Expunge it from Labour and from the Lib Dumbs and you might have a working democracy. Oh, and give first past the post the boot, too.
I am deeply, deeply ashamed of the elderly woman telling a black British woman that she's not British. Her age is no excuse at all.
@@60poland I agree, I am 80, all I will say is ' not in my name'!
She does not look like a ANGLO SACKSION
Oh dear how disgusting, needs educating
So they voted for a compulsive liar but can't understand why they were lied to.
noxious fumes in Ashfield must be depleting brain cells?
I'm 66 and sitting here shaking my head in disbelief at these ignorant takes. These people need to get out of their communities and see a bit of the real world
...with one or two notable exceptions!
@jonahwhale9047 Exactly this.
Thanks Martin
I've worked and travelled all over Africa and the Middle East. I can tell you something for nothing I've yet to have been anywhere where the indigenous people would celebrate becoming minorities in their own towns and cities buddy.
@@russelloliver3040 Been to the gulf states lmao? They’re more than fine
As someone from across the pond sound's just like White Nationalists from Kentucky and Alabama
I was just thinking that. The backward ill educated populace of old mining towns.
But the states is an enormous country with space to put people. The UK is not.
@@babylonsburning1 😂
@@babylonsburning1 What our racism is better than American racism. PHEWW beam me up Scottie.
Americanism is the only way forward. We Europeans need to abandon our history and culture and embrace the McWorld where no one is from anywhere.
"after this interview I WILL be returning to Herefordshire"
😂😂
Complaining about Poles and voting for a guy called Zadrozny...
I noticed that 😂
😂😂😂 the irony
He is of Polish descent probably grandfather. We have a lot in Ashfield with Polish and ukranian surnames. Came and settled here after ww2 as displaced persons worked in the pits married local women. Not unusual. He was born in Ashfield. Cant stand him myself but not because he is Polish thats for sure
Zadroznious behaviour
Same with Farage too lol that's no Bri'ish name
Thank you Moyà. Sorry you had to endure that.
Micro-aggression abound.
@@babylonsburning1 Macro aggressions about as well. Curious how much more racist people would have been with a white journalist interviewing them.
The Xenophobia and frankly racism is off the scale. Life is too short and even shorter for most of the people spouting this crap.
have a wander into an east London mosque
its interesting that you wouldnt object if a japanese person or a nigerian person said that though
These replies are so brain dead that one can’t even say anything.
@@NedchilvsTypical racist.
@@NedchilvsTypical r........t
So now we know where GB News gets most of it's audience from.
But it also generates its audience, cultivating fear and resentment of those most vulnerable, rather than those most benefiting, from the concentration of wealth..
Gawd I did NOT expect that Enoch Powell stuff. Kinell! Voted Labour her whole life too. Batty old lady.
From campaigning in my rural town in 2019, the "voted labour all my life, but" line means they've never voted labour but feel guilty about admitting it
Well, she is more suited to reform. With the bigotry and hate,whilst desperately pretending not to be.
@@Beeady No I can quite believe her , this was a safe Labour area with a proud industrial heritage . What started the decline in the Labour vote was when the party started going on about identity politics ( Equality and Diversity to you and me ) and becoming pro EU didnt help .
@scooby1992 Seems like the area needed to be educated on diversity if they see people with darker skin than them and think they're not from England. Also maths wouldn't hurt if they think 1.2% non-white population is making the 98.8% white population feel unwelcome!
@@Beeady 💯
So many racists. Wow. And these are just the ones willing to say it on camera.
I thought the interviewer handled it with dignity, but it is very close to my experience. While the emphasis is on English I say I am British and part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. I have no need for and English identity. My Dad was Welsh, and they don't behave in the same manner as the English nationalists.
@@marksimons8861That's true. Irish or Scottish people are not as prone to anger as English people. I don't even think Americans behave like them; I believe they are more composed or well-mannered.
Tip of the gammon berg.
@@khadijahbegum3546Because it’s cool to be Welsh/Scottish. You’re allowed to be proud if you’re either of them. If you say you’re proud to be English chances are there’ll be people asking why or casting aspersions.
Englishness is also the sacrificial lamb on the alter for this union and Britishness as a whole. The only nation that doesn’t have its own devolved parliament.
Have you been to a Hamas march
Is this the most depressing place in the UK? I just feel kind of sorry for them, they have been screwed over, then duped into scapegoating the wrong people, no excuse for the racism though.
no. the entire place is a turd hole, that's why I left.
It's got some nice countryside 😬. Some of us are unfortunately stuck here.
@@sarahkellett4926 where is that nice countryside?
@@csharpe5787 Hardwick, Edwinstowe, Sherwood Pines, Clumber Park, Thorsby, Welbeck Estate.
Scab town
Holy shit. Now I can see how Anderson became elected here.
The Tory lady talking about how immigration is having an effect on Dr appointments - the area has over 90% white British 😅
@jonahwhale9047is that the old "they're taking our jobs" fallacy I hear? Could it possibly be the result of less English people enrolling in medical degrees. Or do you reckon that the system has made it "easier" for brown people to become doctors and pharmacists
@jonahwhale9047 i agree with your statement entirely. And it's mostly true as well, especially with recent visits to hospitals, where a lot of the nurses in particular were from south Asia and eastern Europe. However, a lot of health workers, in particular pharmacists, are British-Asian/African. I don't see this as a bad thing, because they're British. Others do though, and to that I always say: no one's stopping English people from undertaking medical degrees. But for some reason, which I still can't work out, they don't seem to be interested in it. I am British with Pakistani heritage, and I'm halfway through my pharmacy degree. I can confidently say that less than 10% of my peers are English, which is baffling. Surely creative arts isn't that enthralling?!
No mention of the number of foreign GPs we have propping up a failing and struggling service . She is totally delusional .
I noticed that, too! Interesting how she moved seamlesslessly from GP appointments to Rwanda.
Easy to solve. Stop non-British accessing the NHS.
'CrossHatch' guy I feel sorry for. Lone voice of reason here.
I live near here and most people I know would agree with him, but a lot won't see the truth. easier to blame immigrants.
Moya is a beautiful and intelligent woman ,any country would be lucky to have her.
100% +100%...........AND ON AND ON AND ON............
😂 everyone’s white in that town and they complain about “too many people coming in” lol 😂
But the car boot sales!
Literally the Census for Ashfield says that 1.2% are non-white 😂
It holds true for most places.
Clearly, they are talking about the 750k net migration figure, but you cannot see that.
@@LAMF24 they were asked about immigration in their town specifically and yet they said that it’s quite high 😂
Yes across the country like London, Manchester etc is high, but certainly not here.
It's always baffling how people blame immigrants for the state of the high street.
This is where I grew up and I can't put into words how glad I am not to be there anymore.
Good for you but people shouldn't be left to rot like this in the ex-mining areas. The solution isn't that everyone leaves, the solution is that the country is run better so people have hope and a decent standard of living. Then we will have less racism too, because they won't be looking for someone to blame for their misery.
@@forestsunset9617 I went to university and then got a job in the city, so I kind of had to leave even if I didn't want to. Yes the country needs to be run better, that's why I've never voted Tory 😂
@forestsunset9617 your assessment is right it winds me up that for all the political education these mps have they couldn't anticipate people left behind would become disillusioned 😢😢
you and me both pal! it's sad to see what's happening there
The population look quite old. Maybe it's a pity so many young people have left but I suppose there is no opportunity. Sounds like education has failed them as well. This is down to people voting Tory for decades.
My mouth hung open with that old lady’s comments, at 9 o clock this morning, to Moya. Still can’t shut it
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If Moyà is sent back to the counties, we would be honoured to have you.
Wow. Well done, Moya, for not rising to that vile womans comment. Ashfield is a prime example of tory destruction of communities and Labours apathy towards its core voters. The towns problems are due to no investment and little work since the pits closed. You'd think they would all be reform voters given their attitudes, but surprisingly, very few were.
Only because they haven’t heard of reform.
17,062 people in Ashfield voted Reform, winning them one of their few seats in the country. Woops!
"I will be returning to Herefordshire" - this reminds me of the Lenny Henry line "Enoch Powell has offered me £1000 to go home, which is really generous because it only cost 50p to get the bus to Dudley."
Gordon Brown was hung out to dry with the Rochdale incident in 2010. He was right though.
Rubbish. He dissed a voters opinion. You may not like what she said but you can't blame her experience.
@@babylonsburning1 Voters' opinions are sometimes wrong. A leader sometimes has to lead the conversation based on the expertise he or she is given. Just following the herd when they are wrong is not leadership. It's cowardice.
@@johnmckiernan2176 So a leader should listen to what a so called expert tells them but not what Joe public says? That tell me all I need to know about the politics from new labour.
The first job of government is to serve the interests of the people and country not anything else.
@babylonsburning1 wrong. She was a bigot and he was right to say it.
@@babylonsburning1 It was as much his right to call her a bigot as it was her right to say the racist gibberish she came out with.
Honestly, poorer people should educate themselves more about politics, and stop reading the right wing press.
There’s a reason they are written with a reading comprehension level of 12 years old
Blame the newspapers.
"I love the poorly educated" - donald trump at one of his rallies
How about schools educate people to think critically about what they read and distinguish between facts and emotions? It's too late for many of these people. Unless we curb populist journalism (which is a dangerous thing for society in terms of free speech) poorly-educated people are always going to be vulnerable to dog-whistle rhetoric - whatever side it comes from.
Over the last few decades the right wing tabloid press has taken 30 IQ points off of so many people. If half the country can't see the real biggest causes of our problems then how are we meant to deal with them?
Perfect example of how older people think. That 80 year old woman is doing the country a favour by not voting. I'm sure if she needed a doctor she wouldn't refuse treatment from a non-british doctor.
“I’m not racist but… [something racist]”
And your point it. It is not "racist" to not like or want immigrants to go home.
@@robintveit3619 nope, it really is racist
@@robintveit3619 It is very racist to tell someone like Moya, a native not of Jamaica or Nigeria, but of Herefordshire, to go back where she came from. Full stop.
Based
@@johnmckiernan2176The settlers in the West Bank are natives to that area if they were born there. How dare those Palestinians tell them to leave their native lands
Moya, after all these years watching Novara I am deeply alarmed to hear from an octogenarian middle-Englander that you aren't English!! 😮
How is that? 🤔
She wouldn't even dare say that to me because simply because I'm white yet speak with a non-English accent even though you are 100% English, we both live in London.
That woman is a blatent xenophobic racist. Well done on your professionalism! This is why I support Novara!
Fair play to the interviewer for remaining calm throughout that vile bigotry.
Ashfield born and raised here for 18 years, then again from 23 until 34
As a marxist I believe in materialism
These people are products of their environment, take them at birth and switch them with babies in the home counties and you have entirely different people, so don't think too badly of them
These former industrial areas were once proud working class communities with thriving high streets and well paid jobs, it isn't their fault that was taken away and now they're rightly angry about it, they just don't know where to direct that anger because they aren't informed of the class struggle despite being on the receiving end of it
It's easier for them to punch down on minorities than to punch up at the people responsible for their situation
With some awareness and building of class consciousness these people might be turned around
Completely agree. I live five miles away and see and hear this sort of thing everyday. It’s crazy to think people can’t see that government’s over the years have taken away all the things that made towns like Sutton a good place to live, whilst pointing at “foreigners “ saying they’ve done this to you. Really sad actually.
People will probably vote for Zadrozny though. Definitely got issues but spoke quite well about the issues in the area.
The Nottinghamshire miners were scabs . So there is precedent.
I do not share your optimism. These people are a lost cause. Incapable of individual thinking. They parrot the script of their friends, relatives and the tyrants they vote for 🤮
You're bang on. Most of the comments expressing discust at these people are from people that have no idea how idea the lives of people in these post industrial wastelands are. Looking down on them for their misplaced understanding of issues just like Sunak would look down on the commenters.
@@TomJoad-ld8xt there was no ballot so no strike pay so not scabs.
Education really is very important, lack of it is so visible here!!
The man wearing the Cross Hatch ......good man. But then I agreed with every word he said. He is at 21.10 mins. 💜
I'm glad I stopped long enough to watch him. Mind you, Moya's piece was compelling. She can keep her cool.
Oh my god that poor guy in the cross hatch top is like totally alone in the worst community in Britain! For God’s sake - Save him!!!
There must be a huge influx of immigrants landing in Dover and heading straight to Ashfield. These people seemed to be very concerned about immigration. Wonder why?
They have successfully been persuaded that ALL of their problems are caused by immigrants .
Wow! You should have asked that woman to pay your fare, to Hereford! ffs. Cannot believe people have this mindset and, sad to see just how emboldened Brexit and farage have enabled these attitudes.
They’re looking for scapegoats, the area is dreadfully in declined. It’s heartbreaking to listen to so much racism being spoken. My dad was a minor from not far away, he didn’t have a racist bone in his body. It’s so sad that it’s come to this. They given a mantra and don’t even think about what they’re saying.
This attitude is prevalent in some of the elderly, it's a symptom of poor education, insularity and lack of engagement with the real world outside their local bubble.
And channels like GBeebies and Talk trash TV
Enoch Powell!!!! Christ on a bike!!!! YOU'RE NOT ENGLISH!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!! The ignorance of that woman!!!
The lady with the single cream cake was magnificent.
I'm really sensing a general feeling of apathy among the electorate this election. Trust in political systems and politicians themselves is lower than normal it seems.
I really don’t want to live in England anymore. Soooooo many racists. Really disappointing and just depressing.
Please go and if it's OK then let me know and I might see you there. This country is plain shite and it ain't the foreigners fault.
Ain't that weird!!! While listening to Sunak and Starmer the other night I watched Mars Attack. Swear to God.
Move to Spain;-) I did we have PR a coilition of socialists in power;-) the right wing will never get into power here, even the PP wouldn't get in bed with the Vox party and their vote went down;-) the UK needs change, needs PR, needs better MP's,,,,vote Green Independent or The workers party and you may get better results
@cantin8697 True , but the Martian Nationalist Party probably wouldnt like loads of folk arriving from space on rubber space rockets .
@@GlennLeinster Well said , but in the meantime I have to vote Labour to get rid of the tories . I just wish Labour would agree to bring bin PR , like most of the party members want .My worry is the power drug of a large majority is too powerful to resist abolishing FPTP. Labour thought that in 1997 and they ended up in opposition for at least 14 years and possibly more .
I live there and once again I'm embarrassed. I have lived in Kirkby nearly 17 years and this areas problems are poor education, lack of opportunity and a Tory government. I'm sorry for the experience you had while here that Enoch Powell lady dose not respesent me or my family. In fact were exactly what he wanted to prevent mixing.
What a depressing place to live.
You'd move away surely.
Not if you have no money to move away 🙄
No, they’re trapped in poverty!
@@csharpe5787 No they are not. They are trapped in bigotry.
They have and all thats left is the ignorant old people
@@jimmyrecard5056 no they haven't all left. Some of us can't afford to move from the area.
One of the most depressing videos I’ve ever seen…. The ignorance and resentment is off the charts… this is how fascism takes root…
Fascism starts with an excuse. 1.6 million immigrants in two years is the excuse.
“I’m not racist”- is always without exception a prelude to racism.
"I'm not being personal..." goes on to say something incredibly personal.
As an old person am so fed up with selfish old people! We’re on our way out & should be voting for a future for our children & grandchildren!
Instead they'll vote for more cuts, no social housing, destroying the planet, and national service!
I'm knocking on too. I agree entirely with you. Us babyboomers have so much to answer for. What a mess we've allowed things to become.
What a representative slice of the British electorate. Depressing beyond words (except for the guy at the end).
Despite the UK already having the sixth highest military spending in the world, and either being friendly with, or allied to every country close by, he still prioritises defence over our completely broken services and infrastructure. What went wrong with this person?
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Not very well informed, consumes Right wing media, feels that being white makes him superior to "outsiders" ....... take your pick.
He wants his empire back 😂
Too much TV, not enough books. You can tell because he's complaining about something that has no impact on him personally but is a major talking point on pensioner-grabbing media.
Mr Cross Hatch has his head screwed on. Top bloke.
I gasped at that Enoch Powell racist! So sorry you had to face that while just doing your job Moya ❤️ and doing it so well
Wow WTAF 05:24 ! Not that she should have had to but so much respect to Moya for handling the racist Grandma like that (bet she couldn't even point to Herefordshire on the fuggin map)!
I can’t believe that woman pensioner said that, I actually felt sick! God I hope this country changes soon. Moya and the Novara team have been a very important source of true information and exemplary reporting.
These peoplecare brainwashed by the media. They always have been. I saw it when I was young in the 60s.
that last guy really gave me hope
I agree...thought him kind. caring and on the right side of history.
Me too. There are people like that in the area thankfully, we're probably a minority though 😔
@@sarahkellett4926 I'm in Mansfield and I agree with everything the dude said and will be voting Green.
@@forestsunset9617 outskirts of Mansfield here. We've changed to the Ashfield constituency. Greens will get my vote too
Sadly a voice in the wilderness . !
Has anything good ever been said after “I’m not racist but…”? Well done Moya x
I love the phrase - it basically just means 'I'm about to say something racist but please don't criticise me for it'
Where are all the people? Even the pigeons have left.
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They're barely even people, it's a town of the walking dead
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I would like to apologise for an early post in which I said: “half of the citizens of Ashfield are maniacal racists.” I want to make it clear that I do not think that half of the citizens of Ashfield are maniacal racists.
Yeh, not half, 90% 😂
That put me in mind of a quote from Dennis Skinner. When asked by the speaker to withdraw his comment "Half of the Tories members opposite are crooks", he said, "OK, half of the Tories are not crooks"
“Stop where yer are” where on earth is that then? Maybe if UK had “stopped where it were” ?
This is honestly a very sad but true reflection of many forgotten parts of England.
Moya, you are such a lovely human. Much love to you dealing with those awfully racist responses with such grace. You and all team Novara are bloody amazing. I love you all ❤
I’m from Mansfield which neighbours Ashfield, you’re unfortunately likely to find many people with similar views here - even amongst young people. Hard to watch but I’ve unfortunately grown up in this environment my whole life. Excited to leave for London to go to uni in September. I hate where I’m from but part of me always feels sorry for them because I’ve seen how easy views like this can cultivate in deprived towns like Ashfield and Mansfield.
I live in Mansfield and I don't think like this. These people are just angry and afraid of change. Instead of blaming the rich for the dump they live in, they blame immigration. Just brainwashed people, but we aren't all like that.
It's encouraging to see these comments. I'm into my seventies now and without sounding patronising hopefully, I wish you both all the best
I'm from Ashfield and went to Exeter uni. Don't hate where you're from or feel ashamed of it. Best of luck at uni.
Excellent interviewing getting frank responses from people stuck in a neglected post-industrial area. The xenophobic views from mostly elderly people are really important to see.
I live near here. When the pits closed people got very angry, the area was neglected, education and jobs suffered. It was also an area without too many minorities, so people weren't exposed to different people. A lot of people became very poor and upset, wanting to blame something. Along came characters like Anderson or Bradley. They blamed the immigrants and it worked a charm because it was easy to blame them. A lot of people saw immigrants as taking their jobs, and because they don't know people like that it made them fearful and hateful. It's sad really. Try not to judge them, they don't know any better.
I was at school in Alfreton in the 1960s and half the kids were kids of immigrants from eastern Europe come to work in the mines after WW2...Poles, Czechs, Yugoslavs, Hungarian...half of my friends' dads didn't speak English but then they were underground most of the time.
@@celestesmith6060 This area also had an influx of eastern European back then, but in small numbers. Ashfield/Mansfield is/was mainly white working class. Hardly any Asians and black people. Even in the 90s my school in Mansfield had about 5-10 minority kids across the entire school. It's no excuse for racism as I don't behave like some people in this video, but I'm just explaining why they see immigrants as outsiders the way they do. They aren't used to anything but "their own", particularly the older ones.
You are absolutely right. I wonder what the right would find as the next convenient scape goat if by magic we got rid of all the immigrants. We did Brexit, surely they learned something by now about how this game works?
@@aries6776 Take your pick , ' lefties , ' LGBTQ , trade unionists , Muslims , Jews , the disabled , the unemployed . Eventually you wouldnt have many people left .
I'll judge em how I like, they don't try to improve their understanding, they should know better instead they revel in their ignorance, no excuse for that level of racist twaddle
These people make me ashamed to be a Brit. I thought we were far more tolerant.
Apart from the green dude. He seems fairly chill, still buys in to the boats distraction a little though. Shows how it gets through to even the most passive.
Welcome to Ashfield. There are alot of good people , but there are also alot of people like this .
@@JGS123WRPTP I think he was more likely discussing how people are distracted by that narrative , than actually agreeing with it .
We are too bloody tolerant and that has caused enormous problems.
@@vincekerrigan8300 Your surname is Kerrigan, an Irish surname, and you are thus a descendant of immigrants. Typical hypocrisy.
Enoch Powell…Jesus. So depressing. Sorry you had to hear that.
@lmbas8501Is empathy really such a difficult concept for you?
Surprised to see how surprised people in the comments are.
Small towns that have had all their industry and wealth stripped out of them are breeding grounds for racist views.
Need lots more investment in towns and areas like this alongside major planning reform.
It is the same in the former East Germany since the fall of the Berlin Wall and reunification . Despite the former West Germany and EU putting millions of Euros into the area it is still a hot bed of far right support .
Cake lady and Mr Crosshatch where the only glimmers of light in that shady backwater town.
Enoch Powell! This is the land that time forgot.
No it's that old people have lived a long time, where as young people haven't lived at all.
@@babylonsburning1I don’t know how old she is but I’m 63 and I come from a former mining area and I remember Enoch Powell: a vile divisive man.
Amazing work as always Moya, you give me so much hope for the future of journalism in this country
If you score a last minute goal for England and mixed race then you are English. If you interview a person in the street and are mixed race then you are a foreigner.
Just shared the video on our local Ashfield group and found it had already been shared there loads of times. The amount of embarrassment among the people of Ashfield that it could be seen as a town of bigots was so obvious. Some of us are quite nice really...
Yes I expect you are Kathrine and so are many others , but Ashfield does have more than it's fair share of people like this .
@@scooby1992 yes, but it's not at all unique. There are so many little enclave towns like this around Britain. What I still find it hard to get my head around is that people only have to travel a few miles to find such different attitudes and yet they don't bother. Perhaps instead of national service, we should have compulsory travel for pensioners (and make sure they don't just find like-minded people and stay with them)
"You're not English are you"
I would struggle to not simply walk away in that moment... fuck me
Id just ask “why’s that?” and just keep asking until she’s left blabbering unintelligible bullshit
@jonahwhale9047 Did the old lady know her name ?
@jonahwhale9047 she's from hertfordshire bozo
@jonahwhale9047 yes, and i also know she's from herefordshire because she literally said so in the video. she lives in london.
You did an amazing job Moya
So many people say that they aren't racist, but don't even seem to realise that they are actually being racist.
I'm Scottish, and for all our sectarianism etc, we've always been an open people. I don't feel British. These poor people. Living in one of the most blessed generations in one of the most blessed country's and to misplace this much hate is just shocking. Power to you the reporter for facing such horrible nasty ignorance and your patience and understanding. England - sort it out, have some self respect.
There you have it, from the horses mouth. I'm Scottish not British.
An open people? Flower of Scotland, don't you sing, send them home to think again?
As a fellow Scot I 100% agree with you. Absolute bile being spewed by these folks.
@jonahwhale9047 well bloddy said :)
@@babylonsburning1 yeah the english over-rulers... i.e. tyrants. . Why would I be british? Im all for no borders and being unified, but thats not what british is.
@jonahwhale9047 most Scots don't have a problem with English folks, it's Westminster that's the issue. Alot of Scots have English folks as family/friends. I assume you see Scottish people that want an independent Scotland as having a problem with the English?
What a Great presenter, She just listened to all the abuse,,
I will follow you.
Very Good...
So, she used to vote Labour because she agrees with Enoch Powell. My admiration for Moya continues to rise.
Enoch Powells prediction was that mass imigration would lead to ghettos and then parallel societies and cultures. Was he wrong ? If you are old enough to have seen these changes you remember what your town and community once was . To lament its passing requires an understanding that goes deeper than culture as ' food and fashion '
A shared history cultural inheritance , beliefs and customs are celebrated by the left when they are " ethnic" but condemed when they are voiced by the English
The last guy gives me hope
Big lad at the end surprised me , book cover and all that 💚
Forget trying to give 16 year olds the vote, please take the vote away from the 60 year olds - FFS people!!
The common phrase I kept hearing from those older 'ladies' is "I'm not racist but".....
Well, that was an education. I really hope that they are the exception to the rule as they are nothing like the people from up north that I know. No longer wondering how 30p Lee got elected. Depressing place.
It's sad how racism is hard baked into the older generation. It's a generational thing. I'm 60 and talking from a position of having grown up with this crap.
Moya, I hope they are paying extra to do this 😊
I'm ashamed to live in this county at the moment. Really sad.
Racist as racist can be🤣🤣🤣
Although I agree with the sentiment…
As can be???
Define racism.tell me what Enoch Powell said that is not happening today
@@MarianneCasey-mt6pw everything….
Compulsory viewing in my opinion. Well done, Ms Lothian-Mclean.
I knew she was going to say something outrageous, as soon as she mentioned Enoch Powell! smdh 🙄
Well done Moya for your response 👏🏿♥️