Braveheart: good movies terrible historical accuracy has a semen receptacle Outlaw king: great movie good characters Bruce’s wife is not a semen receptacle she actually is a good character and it is one of the best historical accurate movies to exist
This comparison definitely did not do outlaw king justice. I’ve watched both of them, I feel that brave heart lives in the shadow of outlaw king. You don’t measure historical movies like this, you measure them by how historically accurate they are. Brave heart is a bad movie compared to outlaw king because it lacks that accuracy. And the characters behave much more accurately to the time period than brave heart which exaggerated it.
I saw it as Braveheart was a story for people who didn't much care for historical accuracy. They just wanted to be entertained with a thrilling underdog story. Which is fine in its own right. Outlaw King, on the other hand, seems to have been targeted to people who were more interested in historical accuracies and realism rather than classic Hollywood grandeur. Personally, I preferred the Outlaw Kings version but that's because I prefer lullabies to rock concerts.
Great video. Refreshing to hear someone on youtube praise Braveheart instead of tearing it down based on some historical inaccuracies and deviations. Despite it's many inaccuracies it's still such an epic and moving film and I really wish there more movies being made like it nowadays.
I’m so confused, better movie than most remember? If your in the right mood? Wtf. When braveheart came out everyone was BLOWN AWAY. Everything about it enticed the audience, gave them an adrenaline rush and providing your not a heartless piece of shit it made everyone cry at the end. It won countless awards etc etc, so apart from the infamous historical inaccuracies. Why on earth would lots of people bash the film or even attempt to act like it isn’t a good film. Seriously this is insanity to me.
Braveheart is overrated. It’s not the little stuff that bugs me, it’s the mountain of nonsense the writer shoved into the film. Guess Mel Gibson forgot the French love interest was a CHILD during the rebellion and had nothing to do with Scotland. Or how the battle scenes make no sense logically. Or how Mel uses the version of William Wallace that says he was married. Mind you, the version used was made a couple hundred years after, when the first writings of the event said nothing of him having a wife. I could go on and on but if Mel wants to make a movie made in history, he might as well do something like Inglorious Bastards. Because that movie was honest that it was fiction.
Braveheart is a truly awful movie, and left my Scottish blood boiling! Nothing but Hollywood nonesense. Outlaw King on the other hand offers a far more intelligent look at the period. Yes, dull at times, but we don't need a silly story-line to appreciate our history.
As far as dull, Chris Pine is on record saying that despite his research he just couldn't get a grasp on the Bruce. Hence his detached, dull performance. He's a fine actor, and I understand they needed "star power" to sell the movie, however, they needed to work with him more to find the characters voice.
Well, both Outlaw King and Braveheart are FILMS. Although the story of Robert Bruce might have been quite turbulent, dramatic story of a man, putting his life and future in jeopardy countless times, winning in the end, while the story of William Wallace is simply one about the revenge and stubborn defiance, FILMS can make the former easy and a bit dull, while the latter - extraordinarily passionate, heroic, romantic and bombastic in a way. They are still films.
I think if the patriot all had guys in three piece suits and generally full of stereotypes and horrendous accents while being filmed in Canada, you might have a different perspective on why us Scots hate Braveheart. I think the problem is that Outlaw King rightfully assumes you know a bit about Scottish history. In the same way that movies about American movies don't spell out American history for a foreign audience.
Scots should be thankful for Braveheart: that film made Scotland famous and loved worldwide. Historical accuracy aside, Brevaheart is probably the best film ever
@msinvincible2000 we didn't really care about the fame then and we definitely don't now. It would just be nice to see our historical events given justice tbh
Scotts should be thankfull for having William Wallace. This is the most known person around the world and person by whom Scotland is known yesterday and today and tomorrow. It happens I have in my DNA Wallaces as my relatives from period range of 500-800 years ago, with I2a2 haplogroup father side and belonging to Doggerland. My ancestor was Pavle Orlovic who died in Battle of Kosovo 1389 fighting Ottomans army caring Crusade Flag.
Braveheart is just pure cringe, Mel Gibson tried to make it out as though England was beaten by another skirt wearing tribe, when in reality Scotland had knights and their military and equipment was almost the same to Englands. Braveheart is complete garbage, at least Outlaw King tried.
"More realistic depiction of medieval era"????? There is no sarcasm there? For real??? Im going to drink a few beers with a history teacher now... I will not tell him you said that xDDD
Brave heart is an amazing film even if you don’t like the historical inaccuracies. Outlaw king though did just as amazing job, and even worked with historical accuracy. Still recommend both films for movie night.
Braveheart was phenomenal although ridiculously historically inaccurate. BH is a tough act to follow but I think Outlaw Kung was a great movie on its own. I feel Outlaw King had too much to cram in to one movie and a would have been much better as a multi season series.
I would argue they are not both valid ways of engaging with history, my most deep problem with braveheart is that it champions the idea that if you believe enough in freedom and weed out traitors, anything is posible, this is a deeply troublesom narrative in history , because it presents the idea that failed strives or causes " simply didnt believe enought. History benefits from the detail and grounding. , else we get imbeciles in the USA yelling "molon labe " because they dont understand the reality behind 300, that the spartans were by all means the bad guys and the persians would be the nones with values far more like ours.
As if I give the slightest fuck. It made me laugh and it made me cry, it made me cheer and it made me angry at times. It did everything a film is supposed to do, entertain me.
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Well, Braveheart doesn't have this:
"DOUGLAS! WHAT'S MY FOOKIN' NAME!?"
of course Braveheart doesn't have obnoxious screaming
Braveheart good film: Total fiction.
Outlaw King good film: Actually quite accurate.
Braveheart: good movies terrible historical accuracy has a semen receptacle
Outlaw king: great movie good characters Bruce’s wife is not a semen receptacle she actually is a good character and it is one of the best historical accurate movies to exist
This comparison definitely did not do outlaw king justice. I’ve watched both of them, I feel that brave heart lives in the shadow of outlaw king. You don’t measure historical movies like this, you measure them by how historically accurate they are. Brave heart is a bad movie compared to outlaw king because it lacks that accuracy. And the characters behave much more accurately to the time period than brave heart which exaggerated it.
I saw it as Braveheart was a story for people who didn't much care for historical accuracy. They just wanted to be entertained with a thrilling underdog story. Which is fine in its own right.
Outlaw King, on the other hand, seems to have been targeted to people who were more interested in historical accuracies and realism rather than classic Hollywood grandeur.
Personally, I preferred the Outlaw Kings version but that's because I prefer lullabies to rock concerts.
Great video. Refreshing to hear someone on youtube praise Braveheart instead of tearing it down based on some historical inaccuracies and deviations. Despite it's many inaccuracies it's still such an epic and moving film and I really wish there more movies being made like it nowadays.
I feel much the same way. It gets crap a lot, but it's a better movie than most people remember if you're in the right mood.
I’m so confused, better movie than most remember? If your in the right mood? Wtf. When braveheart came out everyone was BLOWN AWAY. Everything about it enticed the audience, gave them an adrenaline rush and providing your not a heartless piece of shit it made everyone cry at the end. It won countless awards etc etc, so apart from the infamous historical inaccuracies. Why on earth would lots of people bash the film or even attempt to act like it isn’t a good film. Seriously this is insanity to me.
Douglas reminded me of Stephen from braveheart
Except
He wasn’t a fictional character that was actually like that in real life
Him?
This can't be William Wallace....
IM PRETTIER THAN THIS MAN.
😁❤🇮🇪🏴
I liked the way you summerize Roberts marriage with Elizabeth.
I certainly enjoyed their relationship more then I did with the romance in braveheart.
Braveheart is overrated. It’s not the little stuff that bugs me, it’s the mountain of nonsense the writer shoved into the film. Guess Mel Gibson forgot the French love interest was a CHILD during the rebellion and had nothing to do with Scotland. Or how the battle scenes make no sense logically. Or how Mel uses the version of William Wallace that says he was married. Mind you, the version used was made a couple hundred years after, when the first writings of the event said nothing of him having a wife. I could go on and on but if Mel wants to make a movie made in history, he might as well do something like Inglorious Bastards. Because that movie was honest that it was fiction.
Braveheart is a truly awful movie, and left my Scottish blood boiling! Nothing but Hollywood nonesense. Outlaw King on the other hand offers a far more intelligent look at the period. Yes, dull at times, but we don't need a silly story-line to appreciate our history.
As far as dull, Chris Pine is on record saying that despite his research he just couldn't get a grasp on the Bruce. Hence his detached, dull performance. He's a fine actor, and I understand they needed "star power" to sell the movie, however, they needed to work with him more to find the characters voice.
@@Clint52279 Braveheart is better and more popular you know that.
Well, both Outlaw King and Braveheart are FILMS. Although the story of Robert Bruce might have been quite turbulent, dramatic story of a man, putting his life and future in jeopardy countless times, winning in the end, while the story of William Wallace is simply one about the revenge and stubborn defiance, FILMS can make the former easy and a bit dull, while the latter - extraordinarily passionate, heroic, romantic and bombastic in a way. They are still films.
As Robert de Brus was stuck in William Wallace’s shadow, so too shall this film be stuck in Braveheart’s shadow
I think if the patriot all had guys in three piece suits and generally full of stereotypes and horrendous accents while being filmed in Canada, you might have a different perspective on why us Scots hate Braveheart.
I think the problem is that Outlaw King rightfully assumes you know a bit about Scottish history. In the same way that movies about American movies don't spell out American history for a foreign audience.
Scots secretly love braveheart give us a break
Agree
Scots should be thankful for Braveheart: that film made Scotland famous and loved worldwide. Historical accuracy aside, Brevaheart is probably the best film ever
@msinvincible2000 we didn't really care about the fame then and we definitely don't now. It would just be nice to see our historical events given justice tbh
Scotts should be thankfull for having William Wallace. This is the most known person around the world and person by whom Scotland is known yesterday and today and tomorrow. It happens I have in my DNA Wallaces as my relatives from period range of 500-800 years ago, with I2a2 haplogroup father side and belonging to Doggerland. My ancestor was Pavle Orlovic who died in Battle of Kosovo 1389 fighting Ottomans army caring Crusade Flag.
Braveheart is just pure cringe, Mel Gibson tried to make it out as though England was beaten by another skirt wearing tribe, when in reality Scotland had knights and their military and equipment was almost the same to Englands. Braveheart is complete garbage, at least Outlaw King tried.
BRUCE AN DOUGLAS ARE TRUE WARRIORS YA WE GITT
Lol true but you saying William Wallace with his claymore isn’t?
25 yrs and still trying to compete with Braveheart --how many Academy Awards do for Outlaw King win?
Braveheart is better.
Stronger characters, more realistic depiction of the medieval era, better story and the ending is awesome and can't be topped.
Great movie, personally like Outlaw King better, and is your point about Medieval realism a joke.
"More realistic depiction of medieval era"????? There is no sarcasm there? For real??? Im going to drink a few beers with a history teacher now... I will not tell him you said that xDDD
Braveheart is a terrible depiction of the mediavel era you can't change this fact im sorry.
Perfect analysis!
Brave heart is an amazing film even if you don’t like the historical inaccuracies. Outlaw king though did just as amazing job, and even worked with historical accuracy. Still recommend both films for movie night.
Braveheart was phenomenal although ridiculously historically inaccurate. BH is a tough act to follow but I think Outlaw Kung was a great movie on its own. I feel Outlaw King had too much to cram in to one movie and a would have been much better as a multi season series.
Love both movies!
half the movie: DOUGLASFFFFAHHHH
Outlaw King doesn't take place entirely after Braveheart.
Bruce and. DOUGLAS ARRRRRGGRGR
Outlaw king is a good 1😎
Bravehart Wallace is Bruce ya fookers
Mel Gibson rules
I would argue they are not both valid ways of engaging with history, my most deep problem with braveheart is that it champions the idea that if you believe enough in freedom and weed out traitors, anything is posible, this is a deeply troublesom narrative in history , because it presents the idea that failed strives or causes " simply didnt believe enought. History benefits from the detail and grounding. , else we get imbeciles in the USA yelling "molon labe " because they dont understand the reality behind 300, that the spartans were by all means the bad guys and the persians would be the nones with values far more like ours.
This is bullshite. Because the movie about Wallace is about bruce
The wallce movie was based on bruce. Brave hart movie was a lie
As if I give the slightest fuck. It made me laugh and it made me cry, it made me cheer and it made me angry at times. It did everything a film is supposed to do, entertain me.
William Wallace fight for Revenge
Robert de Brus fight for Freedom
WALLACE RULES🗡
Long live bruce king of Scott’s. And long live Edward bruce king off ireland
Look up ya history better
Man skirt !!!!!!
Get your history right
Ahaahahaahahahahahaaa
Braveheart is so historical fiction. It is hilarious.
Nothing wrong with that. It just matters on the feeling and heart of what it’s trying to give off
But a better movie
Still better