What's in my Food Barrel & Cook Kit?
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What's in my Food Barrel & Cook Kit?
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Love the kitty.
Lets get Jon's subscribers up to 100,000. Good content Jon!
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Let's go for 200,000 now!
Omggg your cat is adorable! 😍
Good, sensible kit review. I started out with a big, heavy waxed canvas Duluth pack when I started canoe tripping (in the 70’s), which wasn’t water “proof”, really. I replaced its with a rubberized Duluth pack in about 1990, which had a Baja bag seal and really kept things dry, but was still heavy. I bought a barrel like yours about 20 years ago and never looked back. Truly waterproof unless you dump in heavy water and it hits a rock (I’ve seen it happen, not to me thankfully), and really light. So much better than a Baja bag or Duluth. Bear hangs are hard to make when you’re backpacking above tree line, but I’d you rig a loop around a tree trunk and push it up with your paddle you can use it to hang your barrel 6-8’ off the ground, which gets the scent higher and less likely to attract scavenging bruins. Anyways, lots of good content here.
Ha! I just watched the video where you spilled the scotts and poured it back, like.. the other day. few days ago. :)
We have watched hours of your content. My wife is ill and finds your videos very comforting. My question is your take apart rectangular metal fire pit. I have spent hours searching for that and can't find one. Is this a commercial product, and if so, where can one be purchased?
Thank you both for joining me :) I bought it from a small shop in Manitoba (Yukon Mini titanium model):
www.canoepaddler.net/shop
A separate channel for your cat might be an extra revenue stream.
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More cat please
Your cat has a lot to say about the food barrel compared to the Mec backpack!
I have so much Pathfinder stuff, it's borders on ridiculous. However, NOTHING from Dave has ever let me down. Typically in life, in general, you get what you pay for. Anyone that would actually clean a fish on their food barrel lid, well, let's just say that they are probably better off binge-watching something on their couch! Love your vid's, thanks for what you put out there!
Hahaha I've seen some pretty skilled and experienced people do it...maybe complacency is a byproduct of experience sometimes. Thank you again FO!!
@@LostLakes Could be, but when in bear country, complacency should not be part of the equation! Just sayin'. Not picking on you, cause I agree, but merely a statement of fact for those that think "that ain't gonna happen to me".
i own a transportation company and live in london and am going true northern ontario if you need your canoe picker up let me know
Do you think a water filter is a live changer ?
Oh yeah, way better than tablets or boiling IMO
Your Alpha pan..... 12"?
10 :) Just had to replace it and got the GSI Pinnacle 10" though which I now prefer
@@LostLakes Thanks. Why is that? No issues with the non-stick coating over the fire?
No prob. The alpha pan is great but has a rubber stopper which the handle depends on. Lasts surprisingly well with careful use over the fire but not ideal, and the GSI Pinnacle doesn't have that concern
Your cat is becoming a star, demanding a speaking role.
Although monotonous for you, I feel as though this video series will be helpful for others. I’ve noticed a big bump in folks taking interest in these types of camping activities since COVID took over. Very detailed, thorough, and helpful points I haven’t heard mentioned before.
Try not to go crazy in lockdown John!
Good discussion Jon!
1:53 - Titanium is NOT better for cooking. You want stainless steel. Aluminum leaks toxins, btw.
Stainless steel is best because it cooks evenly, and with less spot-burning. Titanium for everything else, no question.
EDIT: 4:30 - Uses a long utensil due to high heat on the fire bottom, that's because you're using titanium cookware (see above).
Completely off topic comments. 'Closed to camping' hasn't happened here, and if it did I wouldn't obey that. I didn't stay inside during the 'official stay inside quarantine' either, nor did plenty of other folks. If I were you I'd just go on as planned, especially if it stopped you from making vids, which just might make you go a bit nuts under the circumstances. Have Erin drop you off and pick you up. Imagine a hundred years ago the 'man' saying "Nope. You can't camp in the forest.". fwiw I DO obey fire bans. There ain't a chance in hell I'd ever start a forest fire safe as I am, but hey, it would be jail time nowadays.
Thats why your Kiitty Cat was screaming at you. Kitty must of thought you were going to fillet some fish. Don't you know how to read a Kitties miind? Ha Ha.
Hahah I offered her a little once and she poo-pooed it!
You are killing it! :-) Actually this is useful content as to your gear selection based on your location and experiences. We can always learn something. Channel is doing great. Waiting for your next trip.
Your cat has some serious attitude...
BTW we enjoy ALL Lost Lakes vids. No crappy filler at all. Lay it all out have at it. We will watch.
Doritos and Naan calzones and I havent even watched the video yet:)
Loving these deeper dives into the gear
Potential future topic: the weight principle you apply to the gear… ever considered ultralight? Firmly “of the bush” ? Inquiring minds want to know!
One thing I've noticed watching these videos and want to start implementing in my set up is the use of various bags. Also I found out about Billy Bellows from you guys, my girlfriend got me one as a Christmas present and I absolutely love it!
the thumbnail makes me think the answer is "SECRETS"
Another one, keep em coming sir & I'll keep watching!
I really like the dry bag for the scotch idea, so simple I can't believe I didn't think of it myself! I have the same issue with trees out here in Arizona. I just got an Ursack (Kevlar bear bag) for the times I can't find a proper hang or even just a questionable one. Small animals or birds not being able to get into my food bag is also a bonus when using an Ursack. Keep your spirits up best you can right now, the videos are interesting and helpful so thanks for doing them even tho I know you would rather be out in the wild.. take care and be well.
Definitely love the Ursack. I use a dry bag inside mine. Hopefully this helps contain food odours.
Great content! Don’t forget that lots of us are stuck at home too, so this is keeping us entertained in the meantime 😊 By the way, love the cat interaction!! We take our Rag-doll cat on canoe trips! Her first time last year, she’ll be with us again this summer... Look forward to your next vid! 😊😊
I feel like ziplocks are garbage anyway since they're not watertight. I am excited to transition from bag to barrel!
Good informative video. One tip I give to people who cant hang their barrel is to bring a tie down strap (not ratcheting due to bulk) and strap it to a tree. I have seen scratches on my barrel but it was never run off with by a bear or a gang of raccoons :D
Totally agree about NOT using barrel lid for cleaning fish, VERY BAD!
As to the aluminium debate, I have no scientific standpoint but have followed the debate. And it seems, under normal circumstances it should be okay, at least if you don't use it too much.
*But* aluminium isn't bulletproof when it comes to corrosion, it just builds up a thin but normally stable layer of aluminium oxide that under normal circumstances keep the rest of the metal from corroding.
It doesn't hold up all that well against acidic foods, for one. I've had to throw away food once that not just tasted horrible, it became discoloured from the metal in the cookware. And I take that as a bad sign, as you don't need that much to overdose on aluminium. So while I'm not always against using aluminium, I'm careful with it. Finding a good bush pot in titanium, however, isn't easy.. I often use a stove anyway, not to burn into the ground, so I can use the Keith pots. Meaning, the only aluminium pots I use is for my old Optimus Loke liquid fuel stove. They're shaped to fit the stove and hard to replace.
As for the rubber in the pan, it's probably silicone rubber. It's known for having a high melting point (at somewhat above 300 degrees C), but it's not bullet proof.
Thanks for the tips, anyhow. Especially on that food oil bottle.
Naan means bread. Naan bread = bread bread. Two plastic bowls would keep you from eating out of your cooking pot like a freaking dog eh?
Hey Jon! You have an URL for the Barrel strap /harness you use- Thanks!
I chuckled at the mention about aluminum pots and dementia. I remember my grandmother learning this and asking that all her pots be replaced. All good except she was 92 at the time...
Great video. What about using a bear vault?
Thanks! As in the portable ones? The ones I've seen just don't have a big enough capacity
thanks Jon, you are so great at explaining why you use your gear. Some oldies we’ve seen time & time again. Good to hear all your comments. Like the cat too.
Thanks for these videos....I like your thought process...and Very Practical
Thanks man 🙂🙂
you are at a very basic level of barrel hanging mastery, young padawan... we use advanced techniques between trees to leverage up the barrell
Has your hypochondria ever given you trouble?
I canoed in brown bear country for years and never hung my food, out of ignorance. Never saw a bear until building a cabin and anchoring the food contamination in one spot. They were black bears and once they get a feed they are your friend for life or their death as it turned out.
I love that your cat has to put her/his 2 cents in! Lol I learned so much in this video! Well , honestly I love your channel because I honestly learn something new in every video even if I go back and rewatch some on my favorite camping trips and being stuck in the hosp I been rewatching ALOT of your video I am like ohhhhh I did not know that but know I do! Even if you think you videos are short ridiculous nd why would ppl want to see this stuff. Well new ppl like my husband and I appreciate you taking the time to do these! Your room in your house looks very cozy!🐾🐾👍
I switched to barrels after racoons chewed through my bag.
Hey Jon. Great Video. Now can we do a deep dive into your cat situation. I feel like the little attention seeker in this video would be kind of a star.
Aluminum doesn't leave anything. In reality its the safest thing to eat out of. I find that hilarious people still think that lol
Let me guess, carbs, bread, pasta, donuts, cheese, beans and in 1% of the time trout.
Any updates to this list after a couple years? Thanks for the tips!
I seen a guy use two trees and hang the barrel with one rope on each end while I was in the bwca last week being a tree guy by trade I thought that was a cool application of span rigging
I've never had any problems with bears before , I think they are more a problem around organized camp sites rather than in remote location where they dont have the experience of dealing with humans . I like that little series on gear , it's kind of a "hors d'oeuvre " before the real trips . Thanks Jon
I love all the content, including gear loadouts, but.... I can litterly feel your cabin fever lol, can you guys still get out on day trips up there, maybey a quick fish and shore lunch 😃🐟😀🌲🔥🌲
Ever thought of using a frisbee as a plate
Great info job. Really enjoying these vids. Just picked up a barrel and harness looking forward to using it for sure. Hopefully we can all get out and do some camping starting on may 24 long weekend. Cheers
You need to bring the fiancé to Mohican in Ohio bro.
Hi John! Just wondering if you guys hang your barrel? Or do you just keep it far from camp?
I don't hang here in northern Ontario because hanging limbs are very hard (almost impossible) to find in the boreal forest and even the two-tree method is very difficult to pull off here. Thankfully bears are also very wild up here and rarely habituated to human presence so they generally wouldn't associate a human camping with a food source (a human camping is more likely to scare them off). There are no guarantees though and minimizing scents that would attract a bear in the first place is important. But in a busier park and/or where suitable horizonal branches exist where there are more hardwoods, it's definitely important to hang
"And this is the most important bag of all. This is scotch" lmao. I agree.
Thanks Buddy, very important points and great tips here, much appriciated!
Thanks again Mike!
Great stuff. After watching a lot of your trips and now some of your equipment videos, I think I have answered my own question. Like everyone who uses a stick stove, my stove and cookware are covered with soot. Cleaning the soot is a PITA and having everything in my pack covered with soot plain sucks. The soot is my ONLY gripe about the stick stove. For a while I wondered how you deal with the soot, but in time I came to realize that anyone who can deal with the hordes of black flies, days of heavy rain, long portages through dense growth, soggy pants, socks and boots, freezing drizzle, deep snow, and all that you endure to be out there where the beauty lives is simply not deterred by a little soot. For better or worse, when I look in the mirror, I see a guy who has to find a solution to soot on a wood stove. Thank you.
Hahah that's true, I don't feel too fussed about but I've sometimes just used a plastic bag 😅
Hey John, how do you deal with cleaning your kitchen gear on site after meals? Campsuds? Cat hole for dumping water? Thx!
Used to use camp suds but I usually don't even bring them now...typically just rinse then boil the pot again (with cutlery inside). My plate is plastic so I can't do the same there so I just pour the boiling water over it
LOL@"most important bag"
Great video Jon! If I put my propane gas canister and stove inside the barrel , do you see any concerns? I will of course put them in a dry sack first.
Thanks Ahmet! I'm no expert with stoves as I rarely bring one but the only concern I would have (fuel leak) you covered :)
Once again, great tips! I have the same water filter. It’s great.
Thanks Chris! Love that filter
I’ve heard the same thing about aluminum pots, not sure the science backing the claim but it freaked me out so I switched to titanium or stainless steel. Also I have the same Sea to Summit skillet and love it!
So so helpful! Thank you
Jontario! do you take food items with you that may require staying cold? some videos I have seen you use cheese and other items you would think need to stay cold. what's your strategy for that?
Hey John, I've had shredded cheese unrefrigerated for a week or more many times and it has only molded once or twice. Same for bread. But most of my food is shelf stable or dehydrated and I bring little to no meat. My only strategy is trying to eat those things earlier in a trip :)
you know while you are on the mend you could always start uploading cat videos, I have heard they are pretty popular online
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I want a chewbacca chair
I store my olive oil in a Nalgene and have never had a leak either.
nice wool skin
did you get that from g-stove?
I think Erin's mom brought it home from Iceland years ago
If you are going to hang your food would you hang the barrel or just the bag with food in it?
When I bring the barrel, I don't bring a bag as a liner to contain everything (though that might be useful), so I'd be hanging the whole barrel
You may find this very uninteresting, and believe me after 3 lockdowns I know how you feel (I even made a video in my garden, lol) but it's not.
You have to look at it from the perspective of a Limey looking at a Canuck (or Rohanian looking at the Elves). Yes much of your gear is the same, or similar to what I take on canoe trips, except the barrel. I see no possible reason for one here aside from a seat, so I tend to use bags. But that aside it's interesting to see the similarities.
You know, it'll be 41 years this month that I first sat in a canoe and got hooked, yet a couple of months ago I learnt something off you that left me slapping my head and wondering why I hadn't thought of that, so you're never too old to learn new tricks or pick up new gear ideas. I've been banging on about people using pots over bags for a while now, some have listened so keep doing it a big channel like yours can make a difference....just don't get me started on single use coffee sachets...
Do you hang the barrel for bears or do you just leave it on the ground?
I generally don't/can't here in northern ON because bears are wild and rarely habituated and hanging limbs are very hard to find in the boreal forest.
But in a busier park or where hanging limbs are present I would :)
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Beer bag :)
Hi, John. These purely instructional/info videos are such a huge help for backcountry novices, like me. Thanks so very much! I recall seeing in at least one of your videos a small, collapsible fire grill or grate. What brand is it?
Very glad to hear that Henry, thank you! I think you're talking about the one from Bitty Big Q?
www.amazon.ca/dp/B07VBT99R4?ref=myi_title_dp
@@LostLakes I think that’s it! Thanks!
Thanks!
Nice bit of kit.
No biggie here. You like the sea to summit skillet. I was going to buy one from your site. But you have GSI skillet on your buy site. No sea to summit. Maybe i missed something. Thank you for video.
Thanks for checking! I made this a few years ago and have since moved to the GSI. A bit heavier but taller sides and a more durable joint at the handle
Thanks for reply. Ordered GSI pan from your site. Thank you
@@Racing1954 much appreciated!!
Did you make the map on the wall?
I wish....it was generously sent to us by Hayden from Oklahoma :)
when are you doing the Nahanni????
Hahah someday hopefully, but years away I imagine
Thanks for Sharing more of your load out Jon, I am sure many will find this useful! May the 4th be with you and Erin! 🙏
Why not take an unscented lotion?
I can't remember what I showed here but I usually do, that makes sense
Doritos? :)
A glaring omission 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
You’re the first person I’ve heard say that about using the kid for cleaning fish, serving food, etc. I’ve been saying for years this is a terrible idea. Thanks for putting that out there.
Jon, my new favorite pots are made by a company called Tatonka (German?). They are 18/8 stainless and come in 1.6, 2.5 and 4.0 liter. I purchased them from a German company called Exxpozed. I think they are worth checking out next time you need a new pot.
Just a thought, I use a 12 oz throw bag to set my food barrel/bag (arborists use these to set their climbing ropes). They are very small and sleek but enough weight to go through thick branches. You can buy them at most arborist supplies stores for $25-30 CAD
Great information. This will take my solo tripping to the next level. Thanks Jon
Yep, aluminum and Teflon fastest way to get lost in the woods! Where we going?!😂 Switched to steel decades ago and cast iron at the remote cabin. Informative video again.👍
I learned the hard way about booze and cooking oil leaking, and both on the same trip. Luckily the cooking oil was contained in a dry bag, but it was with all my food so that was a mess. Moving forward both will be put in a dry bag together.
I just discovered your channel and have spent several hours the last two days enjoying your work. I believe it was in this video that you (John) mentioned the difficulty of using conifers, firs in particular, to hang your food container off the ground and bear safe. I have something to add here. During 30+ years of (usually) solo backpacking in the Sierra Nevada, I learned a simple and highly effective technique for safeguarding my food. After losing almost all of a three day supply suspended 10 feet out from the trunk of a red cedar and 25 feet above the ground on Ililouette Creek in Yosemite in 1976, I ever after used two 35 foot (or more) fir trees12-15 feet apart. Tying off one end of a 100 foot length of paracord (I always carried this much) head high on the first tree, I attached 12 oz. round lead fishing weigh to the other end of the cord, stepped back from the trunk 10 feet and chucked the weight over an upper branch close to the trunk and heard it crash to ground on the far side of the tree. I then took my food bags (two tied together) and, after pulling the paracord over the first tree and down into the intervening space, hung the bags over the cord sitting on the ground and chucked the weight over the second tree in similar fashion. When done with the food bags, I would simply hoist them into the space between the trees, usually at least 12-15 feet off the ground, and tie the weighted end off on the far side of the second tree. I never spent more than 5 minutes accomplishing this and I never had my food interfered with again.
Enjoying these very much!! thank you for going into detail about your choices. And I 1000 % agree about the cutting board barrel tops. Me no get it - but to each his own.
Great insight 🤙 thanks for sharing.
30L barrel?
Mine's 60
I bring a cast iron frying pan on canoe trips and everyone makes fun of me for hauling it around, but I like that its indestructible and easy to clean.
Good video Jon, if only i had waited 24 hrs hehe, you certainly answered my question on a food bag lol
I like to keep my mesh bags in a mesh bag so I can easily see they are mesh bags. Top tip...
I just hope we are able to go camping this yr.
love this. great ideas and tips.
it is very different camping at national parks than crown land.
food supply, shelter can make a huge difference.
Oooooh i love the huge carabiner!!! I need one.
We attach a wrench to the carbeener < sp 😂 to throw, just enough weight. Great vid 👍