Exothermic Slice torch For the Win????
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Hey guys, This was a tough one. I was expecting a 3-4 round fight but this one went all 12 rounds!! I get called out to remove stuck pins on a semi regular basis so I feel pretty comfortable with this process and the normal effort it takes to get these out. However, there is always an exception to the norm. Once in a while you'll get challenged by a seemingly easy opponent but then get gut checked from your overconfidence. Good wake up call. So, follow along as we struggle to get this pin dislodged from where it seems to have been since the machine was new. It put up the toughest fight I have had involving one of these in all my years of business. Believe it or not, I used 69 exothermic slice torch rods on this pin. That is way more than usually necessary. That being said, I will show another video of this same process in the future so you can see what I mean. They normally aren't this tough. So, sit back, grab the popcorn and enjoy an overly long video. Thanks for the support.
Stuck was an understatement,good job Isaac and great job on teaching your son 👍
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When I saw the 50 ton jack getting set up, I thought something is going to move or bleed. That was a hard fought battle. Nice job getting that pin out and making the video.
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I've run into the same thing a few times myself on frozen pins. Had to use the Oxylance on a couple of 'em and the porta-power reverse pulling method on the others. I have .5" and .75" male adapters that thread into the pin with a 1.25" threaded female side that I use a 24" section of allthread for pulling. 36-ton hollow ram usually persuades a non-compliant pin. Great content, Isaac! IMPROVISE. ADAPT. OVERCOME.
Oorah!
Super under rated comment ^ - A porta-power and a "Through Hole" or "Hallow Center" jack is a damn good thing to have when pulling pins on heavy equipment. As a Field Tech for HE, they've saved me a ton of work many a time.
@@michaelvangundy226 Semper Paratos!
Always prepared!
At Fording River - Fording Operations we had the Oxylance that took an 8 foort bu 3/4 inch rods, use this the lance thru pins from 12-24 inches in thickness to 2 -6 feet long .
Was wondering if there was another way.
Love seeing you and your son working together!! You all did an amazing job of just working through a tough problem - as you always do!! And you have been teaching this to your son and it shows!! I know many guys would have probably walked away from the job after the 1st day and 30 exo rods! The 50 ton press was a job saving idea! I would hope that they would drill that sleeve in 2 places and put in Zerk fittings!!
That young man swings that hammer like lightning. Never hits the same place twice.
I could hear my dad telling a younger me to beat that pin like I mean it!
Now I've found that the vibration from an air hammer or shock methods work very well for freeing stuck stuff. Also paraffin wax and some heat.
😂lol smartass
That was some patience. I would've thrown every tool after a few hours. You definitely toughed it out. Nice job!
I’d very much be chasing a sledge hammer after an hour of beating on that thing.
Mt Dad would have bit€he'd me out the entire ride there and back for breaking the jack
Yes but a lot of $$$ in his pocket
I hear ya'. Finally decided I got tired of chasing down tools.
@praisejesusrepentorlikewis6218 What's your proselytizing success rate for random comments on unrelated TH-cam videos?
I love watching you teach your son about your profession. You can tell there ain’t no quit in your son. That’s a good thing. Thanks for sharing this video.
Amazing how much work can be caused by simply not keeping a piece of equipment greased. Nice job! And, yes, some of us got the Cars reference!
It's always amazed me that all the guys running it are paid by the hour and everybody is too dam lazy to do the easy work.
in some cases on equipment there are no grease points for certain things nor places for the grease to travel to get to those points
@Darin Wilton Exactly. I saw that pin is bolted into that long boss so it doesn't move in there, hence, no grease.
Yup, This pin didnt have a zerk for grease.
@@ICWeld Hopefully they will put one in after all the work you did to get the old one out...and grease it! :)
Had a similar issue recently. I welded a very large nut to the pin and used an impact to break it loose. I was even able to salvage the pin. Next step was the carbon arc if that didn’t work. I enjoy seeing your projects.
Was anyone else counting rods when he said “we have 10 left”? Lol. Love you videos and how you always stay positive. Great content always
I like the attitude that you weren't going to let that pin beat you. Nicely done.
I use those exothermic rods all the time they are sweet for blowing holes in stubborn pins I like the idea of welding the bracket to the machine definitely gonna keep that idea in my bag of tricks thanks for the video!
Isaac, you amaze me and what you do you are definitely a master at your trade... and I’m smiling ear to ear to see your son working beside you..... I was the youngest of three my father had a heart attack when I was four!!!!!! so I was the machine and he was the motor we work together right up to almost a day died!!!! and we both worked on the railroad as conductors,, and your son said he’ll be careful when you’re looking at it it was you were pushing a rod out!!!!!!!!!!!! looking out to make sure you didn’t get hurt,,,, we did that with everybody around the railroad!!!!!!!!you brought a big smile to my face thinking how my dad and I would work together ,,, he’s been gone 30 something years,,,,, I miss him every day,, take care keep up the great work you’re very informative and I love your lessons junkman do
I actually built those machines when I first got out of welding school. Lull Engineering was located in Eagan, Minnesota and it was a fun place to work. We used to be required to stamp our initials just below where that pin was located at the top of the frame. Nice job getting that pin out. Be safe.
well why didn't u put a grease nipple in it lol
@@troyaldridge3853 I was a Welder, not an Assembler. Just being honest.
What pivoted on that pin or how did it work I couldn't tell
Your son is an awesome young man. I had both of my sons work with me at different times, and it was some of the best teaching and learning experience in my life, in both directions!!
It really warms my cold black heart to see your "Mini Me" learnin how to do something.
We have a huge bumper crop of button pushers and phone didlers coming up in the US therefore, they will not be worth anything much in the future.
It takes some real skills to use a tractor supply bottle jack, a stick welder and some scrap to do with y'all did in this vid.
Thank you for being a great and wonderful father and teacher!
That's like my grandkids. "That's never coming out!". Yes it is!! It's just a matter of time and to what extreme measure we have to use!:) I love to see the next generation learning the trade! Great job!
Brought the "apprentice" along (your son). Nothing like good old fashioned OJT to learn the tricks of the trade.
Recently i had same issue same Lull machine .
Really difficult..
I cut tube horizontal with grinder cut off wheel. Then spread tube with wedges . Then pin came out. I then rewelded tube later when pin back in.
I was hitting pin with 500lb steel crane block on crane cable swung into pin . 🤣
Excellent work.
I completely enjoy and more importantly LEARN a lot from your programs. Thank you very much.
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A guy in Britain i think, used thermic lancing. It looks like the same procedure except his "thermal rods" looked like they would have suited this job a bit better. Just an fyi if you come across another nightmare like this. You really ate through those blue ones fast. Terrific work, you are a Jedi Master Craftsman.
Gotta laugh when you mentioned the "Tanya 3000". I was a journeyman printer for 30 years in Portland, Oregon when that happened in the mid-90's. A lot of people probably don't know where or when that knick-name came from.
Great channel... keep up the content. 👍
Help me out . . . at 6:50 he says he'll give it some hits "with the Tanya 4000" . . .
so . . WHAT'S THE REFERENCE ???
It TOTALLY zooms over my head !!
@@kimbarator Tonya Harding is the reference.
@@kimbarator you need to watch some Vice Grip Garage.
Maybe put a very large pipe wrench on it when you can get a good bite,and twist and push! I have done it many times on huge fan shafts and pump shafts! It seems to work better for some crazy reason! Nice video !
I love seeing Dad’s working and teaching their kids!
Many times kids don't want anything to do with the occupation of their parents. They do not want to follow in their father or mother's footsteps, for whatever reason. So fulfilling to see that does not appear to be the case here!
I have never seen anyone use a torch as good as you do ! Really enjoy all of your repairs ! Keep up the good work and God Bless you…
It was obvious that the two of you worked your tails off getting that pin out. The exothermic rod helped a lot, and I can't think of another way to get in that deep. Good thing you had that tool. Good to see your son working with you. Life isn't a video game, and sometimes you have to really dig in and fight till the end. Proud to see the two of you succeed
Going to the store....was a long trip 385K views...come people give I C Weld the thumbs up. He's earned it. Hat tip to that pin...what a fight. I've fought pins, but NOTHING like that. we actually honed the sleeve out after. I've never used Exothermic...
Everytime I watch one of your videos I get childhood memories. I grew up on an excavating contractors lot. When I was just a kid I always watched the mechanics do this kind of work. Thank You Young Man I enjoy every one you make.
Extraordinary repair job, you two guys. I would email the owner a link to this video so he can see what all went into the job. I think he would be impressed like the rest of us.
Yeah me too
Please stop worshipping TH-camrs
@@6Diego1Diego9 I don't need your advice..
@@6Diego1Diego9 Isaac is first and foremost a professional welder and equipment repairer before he is a "TH-camr", so bite your tongue! Go watch some other channel if you can't respect Isaac and his work ethics.
The first thing my father inlaw told me when I was around the first equipment maintenance issues was grease is cheap always grease the machine before use check all fluids before you use if you didn't use it the day before
"It's early in the day and we've got patience" that is pure knowledge and determination passed from father to son expressed in the most prophetic way.
Well, I guess you have to imagine how much the company saved on grease all those years...What a struggle! I smiled at my own frustration as the pin refused to budge. Thanks so much for sharing this herculean effort with us.
At first Isaac, I thought this was going to be a "you don't win them all" & you would cut away the pin bore housing & replace/weld in a custom machined housing & pin. But about half-way thru the video when you bought a new bigger jack, Isaac is going to win, no matter what! Awesome job!
I done what you said on a dump bed that froze up from no grease and salt . I had way less time in the replacement than spent on this, but you never know until your done sometimes.
You can always tell a man's experience by the swing of his hammer, you got some solid shots in there Isaac. We spent 2 hrs straight swinging a 20 lb Sledge and pin hammer to drive a stuck pin once, it was brutal on the hands........I like YOUR method much better!!! Good work as always brother, and thanks for the great content!
That was a tough one. You got it out though. You got to be proud of your son. He's quite the worker. Never stops. Keeps on going. We never hear him complain. You'll be a good worker. One day he'll be on his own and have his own company. Good stuff. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
I appreciate that
I thought the bolts job was a tenacity master class, but this was next level 👍 You could hear a pin drop!
You don't give up sir until the job is finished . Great job from both of you .
That was a fairly cool process and that pin put up 1 hell of a fight. It was cool watching the board "under" the jack compress down to about 1/4" as the pressure built up then spring back maybe an 1/8" at a time.
On some jobs ya just have to say " you're not going to beat me; if it takes me all day or all week, I'm going to win." Good video.
Genius to put the piece of timber under the base of the jack. The previous guys who tried to get the pin out, gave up. You did not. well done.
Another good reason to put things together with anti-seize. A few zerk fittings wouldn't hurt when installing the next one. Perseverance in the end always wins; excellent job!
Man Issac you earned every penny on that one. You definitely have more patience than me. Thanks for sharing and as always keep up the great work Bud.
I love the 'more space for grease' comment!!! Funny as heck AND accurate too
That was a 12 round fight for sure but your ingenuity and perseverance prevailed . The education your son is getting from this puts him light years ahead of his competition and any person in his age group just starting from scratch . It's good to see our youth learning this much needed trade . He will be prosperous and live a good life with the skills , tricks and ingenuity he is learning from you . Hopefully he will pass it down to his generation .
Job well done ISAAC and SON!
Great worth ethic and execution of the task!!! Wow! This one sure was a Bear!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Awesome job adapting and over coming the problem. I had an upper pin on a Case loader arm that I lanced and it still wouldn't come out. We used a breaker on a skid loader to drive it in and cut the other end off (only could move it a few inches) until it was out.
A field lance tool was an 1/8" black pipe with a ball valve on it.
Longtime subscriber. Thanks for letting us see you and your co-worker deal with work in the "real world." Excellent content as always.
Much appreciated!
All that for a stuck pin...the way it goes sometimes. The video of the trip to get a jack really brings home the flatness and wide open spaces in Texas!
Another good job Isaac, nice to see your boy working with you, the work ethic in this country is definitely fading it is up to the parents to put it back in place and you are👍🏼 doing a fine job.
I agree. Everyone knocks the kids but it's mostly the parents who have failed it instill work ethics in their child.
Both you commenters are 🤡s. Repeating the same b$ll$hit that your grandaddies said about you. Get the fwck off my lawn.
@@adobedoug2564neither of my grandfather's said that. So move on with your rambling bs.
Knocked that one out of the park!! A great team in the making. Well done sir!👍
Lord, I hate pins. I just finished changing cylinders on a little wrecker. Four 1” pins. What a cluster. I admire your work, Isaac. Bless you and yours
Please do a shop tour or tooling tour? Love your expertise, the pointers I’ve learned from you motive me more and more everyday to slap my hood down and lay some metal. Keep up the good work sir!
Amazing work as always! I like seeing the length of time needed. I use Tri-flow. I know everyone has their favorite, but I do a lot of rusty stuff. And it works for me if I let it sit overnight. Anyway love the video!
Recently had a 90mm pin in an excavator bucket pin that a 25 ton wheel loader wouldn't budge. Snapon air hammer got it out. No comparison between jacking and air hammer. It never fails me. The shock action makes all the difference. It never budged with the biggest sledge and a hundred shots and came out in about 10 minutes with the air hammer.
Yea I've got an IR air hammer, its amazing what some vibration and shock will do for things. Always a good idea to smack a union before trying to separate it too. Love when hitting things works!
The air hammer is a good idea. What Snapon model do you use?
@@jheissjr After about 25 yrs it finally croaked and I didn't have time to repair it so I replaced it with an Astro pneumatic after spending time researching on line. It is the strongest air hammer on the market right now. It is a monster.
Asto upgraded the 498 to the new Thor 498. It looks even more powerful than the original.
Good tip
Wow perseverance!!!!! To the hilt. Always liked your choice of background music too. You get the most interesting jobs to figure out..
And you do them all.
you explain your procedures the best on TH-cam.
Glad to see your helper getting some time in! Learning some important lessons there! Need the piece of 3/8 rod with a beltsander belt section attached to make a deep bore flap wheel. Usually use gorilla tape to get the belt to stick to the rod.
yup, You bet!
*I C Weld* Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to bring us along. God Bless.
You could see the young man's arms getting tired, and he never complained, just kept at it!
Nothing better than when you get to watch a professional deal with a job that doesn’t go as planned; the assess, regroup, and execute. Working through the jobs that don’t go as planned separates the professional from the everyday man.
The piece of wood under the base of the jack saves your base. Nice work, can't believe it was stuck that bad!
Nice job Isaac and son! It’s great to see him following in your footsteps. Also good to see him indoctrinated into hard work. But you could’ve converted the jack to air over hydraulic. Lol
Thanks!
i hope your customers appreciate the tenacity and resourcefulness, you always get the job done.
And im stoked to see your son out there working with you. Keep the trades alive!!!
I had to do the same thing on one of the thoughts machines I was fortunate enough to have a 50-ton pin puller. Nice job
Great job, great perseverance. Once that pin was out about an inch I was thinking putting a 3 foot pipe wrench on it and turning it while pressing with the jack might have helped. That sure was one stubborn pin. Strong work!
It is may work optimal when just hammering the pin, because it act like a spring, and can be move as a worm, when the far end keep unstucked by slow rotating.
Isaac and Son - you are a case study in patience, persistence and know how.
That must have felt sooo good when it finally began to move . Some jobs you just can't be paid enough for doing , can't charge mental anguish on an invoice .
Well earned congratulations on defeating that beast.
Just a old man here. I got 50 years on one of those short handle BFH's, I got the shoulder rota tor cuff issues to prove it [ two surgeries, one PRP injection, just had stem cell & PRP Jan.4th, it has been impressive as to amount of healing]. Re watch your own video, focus on how high of a level your arm is to your shoulder and realize you are in an impingement state where you are exerting the greatest amount of stress on rotator cuff fibers creating maximum wear. Better yet show the video to a physical therapist!
For that situation pro active thinking would be to of raised the fork lift platform to where you are swinging the hammer more on the plain of a golf club. If you really want to listen to a old man develop a regular gym style work out program. Nolan Ryan pitched an outstanding long time due to a regimen of rotator cuff exercise. Do your self a favor, take the video to a physical therapist, take your son, he will suggest that you two start bonding working out at a gym. I think if you do you will see it as one of the wisest business/money making/ father son decisions you can make.
I have been really impressed with your presentations, you put the man in the word manhood. I posted my first TH-cam video a couple of days ago dealing with my new Miller Air Pack Bobcat and how to charge battries with old constant currant machines. I intend to do a video on the Astro [Big Nasty] air hammer and truck drag link replacement and ujoint replacement specifically for that tools ability to minimize rotator cuff wear. I am 76 I can still pop axles with a sledge.
Tough job . Glad it turned out great... The owner must have a few cylinder hones he can use to clean that bore out... That was one stuck pin...
Bottle jacks are designed to work in a vertical position. Inside the bottle jack the hydraulic fluid pick up hole is located in the bottom. if it is exposed to air inside the bottle jack it will be unable to pick up the fluid. I converted one to work upside down in my hydraulic press. It was a lot of work but works well.
Isaac, you are one absolutely persistently tenacious man when it comes to getting the damn-near impossible accomplished for a customer. Also, you have got to be part bloodhound when it comes to finding your way to these worksites that are in the middle of nowhere.
I sure felt for you and the struggle. Hard to tell from here what else could be brought to the battle.
I've got a 10 ton porta-power and I have an hyd cyl for it that creates 30 ton but on moves a half inch. I have used it twice since I got it and it will move mountaiins a 1/2" at a time... Ah, good ole Tractor Supply.
This was a Great video highlighting the teamwork with your son. Best to You as Always.
I've seen a couple of guys that welded a pin to a 5' bar which allowed them to pound on the pin with smacking the person holding the pin;
I watched a guy in Ireland using an oxygen lance to burn out a post for a rock crusher. The rods he was using were 9' long x 1.5" with 1/8" rods inside the rod.
It was hooked to a bank of 15/16 oxygen bottles. Unbelievable....
We used those setups at the steel mill I worked at. We called them oxygen lances. We used them for big shafts and large bearings that were seized.
What a bear of a job. Your perseverance is admirable.
Outstanding example of how a "simple" job can take days - customer has to understand that this stuff is not always easy. And how it takes experience to figure ways to get it done. Love this. Bring on the line bore!
Now that's what I call stubborn. Those rods really don't last long from the looks of it.
We use to use a bigger version of this to remove frozen pin. They were 1/2” pipes 8’ long and stuffed with wire. They had flared ends so you could stack them and would they move metal, as long as you could keep the oxygen to them, and they went through a lot of it. Sometimes you just have to report to extreme violence, judiciously applied.
Patience and the correct tools,but your knowledge is the key. Your son has a good teacher
Wow, I've never seen that rod used before. I really get a lot out of your video's sir. From gouging to now this exothermic rod, very educational.
Thank you for sharing your work and great your partner is getting the education as well. Hat's off to both of you.
Great video as always Isaac! What I learnt most from this video and also me always looking for ways to do something easier. If I ever need to do something like this I need to buy a pneumatic hammer of some kind and if I need to break out hydraulics I need to buy something where all I have to do is press a button.
That was stubborn pin ! Maybe a couple chunks of dry ice pushed inside the pin might have done some good. I dunno. Surprised you don't carry a Porta-Power around in the truck. Maybe a little easier than the big jack. Good to see your kid working with you !
Fantastic effort that’s the big difference between a field guy and a shop guy. You think on your feet and get it done.
I've never wanted to have kids, but seeing you work with your son is moving man. Keep up the good work
I had a job removing some 2 inch pins that were frozen in about 8 inches. A lance would have been nice, but I drilled holes through them and use a torch to melt out the rest. That was quite the ordeal
Had a similar job on a 375 ex. Lanced it and then drove it out with a demo hammer on a backhoe
Well done as usual. I used to push pins before they had quick change excavator buckets, fun fun!
One of the toughest jobs of work I have ever seen . . . thanx
Just shows how strong your welds are when it breaks the jack first 😂
I had the same issue with a job 2 months ago after hearing and torching I came to last resort of using my dewalt jack hammer setting it side ways and within 10 minutes got it out wondering hmmmmm why didn’t I do this from beginning lol
Wow.... intensely stuck !!
Incredible determination !
Curtis at CEE really appreciates the welding cap you sent him.
Seems like it would have almost been easier to gouge the whole pin and socket assembly out and put in a new one. Probably would have been quicker anyway. Anyway, I did get your Son's joke about Rusteze, lol.
That's what Cutting Edge Engineering Australia would have done.
I think I would have cut the tubing with a zip cut and welded back together after.
I work on these things for a living and other material handling equipment (anything with a set of forks on it). Had to remove the same pin once to remove the boom out cylinder for a reseal. It took a mobile welder like you a day and a half to cut that sucker out using exo and prayers. Like you, he finished with welding a press fixture and pressing it out. I think that welder charged 1400.00 in labor and supplies to remove it. That was at our discount since we use him quite often. No easy way after they rust in. It is what it is.
My daughter likes your son. She watches your videos because of him.
Looks like the operator missed a few grease fittings ?
Great video. Im wondering how much force that jack lost being in the horizontal postion. That pin was seized to the max.
I'm not sure but i think it's either getting oil or its not so basically all or nothing.
@@Lucas12v The way hydraulic bottle jacks i think i has a tube inside that moves the oil upward and drains it back down to a resevoir. Its more effiecent vertically. Port a powers can move the oil in any position, so the can be used horizontaly.
I will see if theres a video i can watch to verify. I always wanted a portapower but the were expensive for a good one.
At 41:58 you can see where the base metal bent under the pin from the forces of the jack on the welded-on bracket. Amazing display of shear power. Awesome video! Thank you!
It must be really tough, I don't remember you hardly ever wearing sleeves, let alone a full jacket, way to hang in there and get it done, I've said it before, I really admire the way you keep your cool, a great example for your son.