I live in Charleston SC (where Bill Murray lives) and Bill is a god when he’s spotted somewhere but he NEVER lets it get to his head. he’ll come to a bar and get behind it to serve drinks, he’ll take pics with anybody that asks nicely, and he genuinely will make an effort to look/smile or something to everybody in the room so they have a memory. he’s a national treasure and I hope he lives on for many more years with a good bill of health
In Ghostbusters he was just a silly prankster, in Caddyshack he was just a lovable dufus, a lot of actors get typecast to play a certain kind of character.
If you watch the full JRE episode in the first 10 mins he says he is currently putting together a podcast to do literally exactly what you just said - so wish granted :) He said it will be called "The video archives Podcast" which is named after the video rental store (Video Archives) he used to work at before he became a film director and hes going to host it with writer director Roger Avery who he wrote pulp fiction with as they worked together at the rental store.
I love how Tarantino talks about movies. He discusses characters as of they're real people with backstory amd motivations. It's very rare to get this insight outside of the director / actor bubble.
Iago is a perfect example of a character. You can put him in any movie, book or TV show and he will be Iago just the same. His ideals and motivations fleshed out enough for the individual to be able to infer his response to any given interaction.
I’m a weirdo who doesn’t care about movies, but hearing anyone so passionately talk about anything is amazing & I’m 2 minutes away from watching the whole episode
His critique of ground hog day is pretty shallow though. He points to it as like a cliche movie where they just suddenly changed Bill Murrays character in the last 20 minutes for no apparent reason. The whole basis for the movie is kind of built around the spiritual concept of reincarnation - with each day he is given the chance to live a new and start fresh. He starts out before this as a bit of an selfish ahole - and then as the day reset starts happening he initially uses this to go and becomes a way bigger a hole and doing all the hedonistic things he can think of. Then he confronts the negative fall out from these. Then bored with the hedonism and negative fall out he wants to escape the loop. So he tries to be good to "escape" the day loop through going and just trying to do good deeds to kind of "appease god" or whoever is controling the time loop which also doesn't work. And then eventually he just decides he is trapped and not knowing what to do he starts creating genuine relationships with the people around him and getting to know them and actually begins to like and care about them - and finally at the end he basically lives the "perfect day". He goes and helps a lot of people and learns new skills not just to "do good deeds" to try to escape the loop - but just because he actually cares about them. This is what eventually releases him from the time loop. The movie arc is really powerful and not just some cliche "they made bill murray nice for the last 20minutes". It reminds me of the very serious estern spiritual movie "Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring" only disguised as a Bill Murray comedy
@@David-_-_- You completely failed to hear what he said, as his criticism included it being relevant to the plot, just not meaningful to the enjoyment of the viewer, and this makes sense as you can still be sarcastic with that kind of wit while being a nice guy. They're not mutually exclusive, and so it falls flat on that part on behalf of the viewer even if it makes sense for the characters in the movie world.
@@paularmstrong1348 yeah, gift is a strong word lol. You can appreciate what he does as a filmmaker, I have no problem with that, but as someone who loves film I’d never put him anywhere near the greatest to ever do it. Mediocre, above avg at best.
In high school I knew a kid who was a huge Chevy Chase fan. He mimicked his mannerisms, facial expressions .... everything. He even talked like his characters and said crazy stuff when you asked him a question. It was crazy, but he was so good at it..
1950's: Sunset Boulevard, Streetcar Named Desire, Rashomon, Singing in the Rain, High Noon, Tokyo Story, Seven Samurais, Rear Window, Vertigo, Rio Bravo, Rebel Without a Cause, The Searchers, The Seventh Seal... 1980's: the most iconic decade for B-movies and action movies. Period. Tarantino is talking out of his ass.
To his point though...each of those movies are 'transformation' movies. The characters are completely different at the end than at the beginning, and they generally are not great people in the beginning. How many 80's movies are about good people who are somehow worse at the end of the story? They are all a 'marginal' or crappy person who gets transformed into an 'enlightened' form of themself.
I agree, my favorite movies are from the 80s. Taken as a whole it was a very commercial time when producers were calling the shots in the soul interest of making a buck. I also grew up with those movies, QT grow up with the movies he loves most. In the 90s the rise of independent film renewed that spirit of the 60s and 70s. Creative thinkers like Tarantino rose up and each infused the industry their own unique artististry.
Thankyou my 80's brother, and Kung Fu movies carries on getting crazier if anything, Wutang VS Shaolin, Wu Tang VS Ninja etc.. Earlier movies he CLEARLY took from, Pai Mei and the white bearded master trope (Bwa ha ha ha ah!!!) - taken to crazy extremes, but well done in the afore mentioned movies.. So many amazing comedy horror (Reanimator - watch now if you didn't yet), inadvertent comedy horror, Kung fu, Trippy movies 80's- early 90's.. Lots of sweet shit there and lots online still! Sci Fi was good too, Dune,(Brain explodes.. Lynch did well imo), Naked Lunch, Existense, big budget kid stuff like Flight of the navigator etc in the 80's.. Very sugar, but was some very cool shit for kids heck- Krull?!? Gave me nightmares as a kid and is a family movie!!!! Yeah, lots of decent shit 80's, 90's (early certainly). No denying that boss man..
@@Unknown-rz1sj you’re 16 so we will let that slide. 80’s movies prob wouldn’t interest anyone who didn’t grow up during that time. But for us, those movies were part of our childhood
@@evanlitvak2234 so you think being a director makes you a better movie watcher than everybody else? I guess a person that makes baseballs knows more about the game than anybody else too? Ignorant way of thinking
I've always loved "The Razor's Edge" with Bill Murray. You never know what movie, song, book or TV show is going to grab you and this one just grabbed me and my Dad. My Dad was a Vietnam Vet with 20 years in the US Army from 1956 to 1976 and he was always thoughtful when watching it. He said that it was true for him.
Even though I personally love Bill Murray movie, I totally see Tarantino's point. And I kind of agree with him. However, I will always defend Groundhog Day. In that movie, it totally makes sense why he changes radically. He repeats the same day for what some have debated that is possibly more than a hundred years. He comes to his wit's end and commits suicide a multiple times to no avail. Because of that, it is believable that he has an epiphany, a somewhat religious conversion experience. He radically changes. Now the others movies, I think the criticism is more or less valid.
there's absolutely nothing wrong for a character to better itself during the movie, it's called plot, Quentin is just an asshole who hates anyone that reaches a legendary status. one example Bruce Lee.
I explain in another comment how in each movie Quentin references that it makes sense for Bill Murray's character to change. Groundhog Day you hit it right on the head. Scrooged is just the old Christmas Carol story, visited by the 3 ghosts, he sees all of the wrong he has done, he sees his past, his deceased parents, he sees all of that... and it changes his outlook. And Stripes he had to go through boot camp. He got beat up repeatedly. He was introduced to discipline, hard work, leadership, structure, teamwork, etc... what the Army is supposed to do to someone. It makes sense that he would no longer by a cynical deadbeat lazy bum. Quentin must have a grudge against Murray.
Exactly, Groundhog Day has a lot of parallels with Scrooged (or to be precise A Christmas Carol), a story arc where a character sees the error of his ways and changes, that's the whole point. His analysis is nonsense, which is surprising coming from Quentin Tarantino.
I really hope Tarantino casts Chevy in a film. Would be so incredible to see a comeback for Chase like Murray had with Lost in Translation. Someone give that guy a script!
@@Chasstful You ain't kidding. I had my film 'cancelled' at an Asian-American festival because I was a white director with an Asian woman in the lead. A small group of outraged college kids took to twitter and instagram and accused me of everything from cultural appropriation to fetishizing Asian women to white colonialism, even though my producer was a Korean woman and my co-writer was a Chinese woman. It seriously rattled me and made me never want to make another film. I can see why QT is walking away from it. They had a target on him during the release of Once Upon A Time.
I think one of the best moments with Chevy Chase was in Three Amigos where they were dying of thirst in the desert and Chevy’s canteen had all that water.
My top CC moment is in Spies Like Us when he’s doing the press conference and perfectly fakes a microphone cutting out. Bested only by Aykroyd’s code-breaking explanation: “just a simple polyphoneticaly grouped twenty square digit key transposed in booster vedonic form with multiple nulls” LEGENDS
i think he could do something really good with Chevy. Wait for Quentin to get a little soft headed so he more closely matches Chevy.. it has the potential for brilliance… we need to pull some more genuine 1970s asshole from Chevy
Both Chevy and Bill are legends. I will always have their 80s films loaded up in case I need a ‘pick me up’ ‘Vacation’ (not the crap remake) is one of the most well ‘layered’ films of all time. You can rewatch it many many times and the subtleties and Chevys brilliance will still surprise you.
Joe is right about Chevy Chase. I ran into him once in Runyon Canyon in West Hollywood and he wasn't very cordial. Sometimes it's best to never meet a celebrity that you grew up watching.
Chevy Chase is known be an a-hole off camera. He's one of those artists who are so good at what they do that they become super arrogant. Chevy Chase on Community was brilliant, but he himself ruined everything coz of the manchild he is♎
"Fletch Dies" needs to be Tarantino's final film. Imagine and ultra violent Fletch film with an old Chevy Chase at his wits end on one last caper that kills him.
12 Angry Men, Rebel Without a Cause, Singing in the Rain, Rear Window, Vertigo, Bridge on the river Kwai, A Streetcar named Desire, The Searchers, On the Waterfront, North By Northwest...etc Not sure what Tarantinos idea of terrible movies is but it sure isn't mine. The 50s had some of the greatest films in history.
Tarantino can make what he wants to make, and I think he's got some good movies, but his philosophy seems to be that every movie should be the same --- the kind of movie he would make --- which I don't like at all. I also think that his idea of a good story is generally subversive and not a good influence on a society, especially considering that children watch movies.
Quentin was just entering adulthood around the start of the eighties. There seems to be a pattern around early adulthood where people start to become critical (almost hyper-critcial - the "hipster attitude") and more discerning about what they consume, so it's understandable he's so critical of eighties movies. The media people consume during their child and adolescent years is often viewed in an idealistic, uncritical haze. There is a correlation in the music realm. So many kids who grew up on late 60's/70's music hated 80's music, often complaining it was overproduced and too commercial. This is what led to the grunge rebellion in the early 90's.
Or you came of age around 2000 and figured out how to download movies from the 80s and 70s and see exactly what he's talking about.. "So many kids who grew up on late 60's/70's music hated 80's music" have you ever even listened to music from that era? You can pretty much chart the downward decline of rock music. You can go with your opinion and all that, but it's objective fact that guitar base music decline in popularity every year after 1977. "This is what led to the grunge rebellion in the early 90's." grunge was a product of innovation in recording technology. Starting in the late 80s, audio compression technology became common place. Before that point the only way to make a full sound was to play fast and busy guitar. When compression technology hit, slow tempo/down tuned guitars started sounding full. Grunge is just a branding it was literally nothing more than a change in production technology. "The media people consume during their child and adolescent years is often viewed in an idealistic, uncritical haze" Then you become an adult and can sample things on your own.
@@dixonhill1108 Yeah, right. So movies were all sunshine and rainbows in the 80's. It's not like that was the era of the "video nasty" and the dawn of such genres as body horror. The MXR compression pedal had been available since the early seventies. Led Zeppelin extensively used compression to create their signature sound (creating slower, heavier songs such as When The Levee Breaks). Even the Stones used compression. If the only thing that seperates 80's commercial glam/hair metal "cock rock" from 90's grunge/alternative rock is the technology, why then is the lyrical content so radically different? 80's hair rock is all about girls and partying. 90's grunge is far darker, introspective with existentialist themes.
@@pleasebeinteresting I can only take it that you are referencing the fact that I stated the difference in lyrical theme/ mood from 80's glam rock to 90's grunge/alternative and that that difference in theme and mood is applicable to Tarantino discerning between 60/70's film-making to 80's film-making. The point is no one mood/theme generally defines an entire era/decade. At the same time 80's glam rock was pre-occupied with more testoterone-fueled themes there were more serious and interesting themes being explored in 80's New Wave and Romantic music. Even a song as "poppy" as Nena's 99 Red Balloons is actually a reference about the 80's cold war (very applicable to now).
Quentin makes a great point about Chevy Chase, for me, Fletch is the best example of his point, the character never faulters from the start, always sarcastic, senseless yet smart, funny, and not surprisingly very entertaining..... Tarantino is the Tarkovsky of my generation.
Tarantino is to me one of the few,and best movie makers there is...his movies are so recognizable,fun,explosive.. and every movie he made had at least 1 scene that became legendary
I love that movie! Bill Murry was great in that. Probably seen it 12 times. Richard Dreyfuss was great too. "Why don't you take a vacation?".. "I'M ON VACATION!!!" LOL
Chevy Chase had an addiction to pain killers due to his early slapstick pratt fall style. When you 're hurting your entire body is tensed up and therefore so is your mind. I've suffered minor and major injuries through my lifetime, unstable compression fracture of my L3 Vertebrae, a hip replacement, busted knee cap resulting in knee surgery and now diabetic neuropathy which causes me to tense up. I have to concentrate on relaxing my muscles and putting a smile on my face so people around me will appreciate my companionship.
Some pretty good 80s films The thing ,America werewolf in London, aliens, The evil dead ,blade runner ,full metal jacket, platoon Just some of my favourites
@@SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77 Was given amazing Star Wars art for my birthday. Amazingly, in walks Harrison Ford to the same restaurant (by himself; solo you could say). Having a few drinks in me and thinking this a cosmic coincidence, I meekly and humbly approached Mr. Ford as he was waiting to be seated and asked him to sign my artwork. He wouldn't look at me nor talk to me, and asked for me to be kicked out of the restaurant. The entire encounter lasted less than 30 seconds, but felt like a hellish lifetime. Embarrassingly, Ford was seated at the table next to my birthday celebration. He ended up meeting Jon Favreu; most likely discussing "Cowboys & Aliens" from the timeframe of it all. The only reason I wasn't kicked out of the restaurant is because I was staying at the hotel (Beverly Hills Hotel), and was a regular at the restaurant (Polo Lounge). After our meal concluded, I was literally escorted out like I was some sort of criminal, being admonished by hotel security: "Now we're not going to bother Mr. Ford again, are we?" Seriously, all that fuss and it would've taken 3 seconds to just give me his damn signature lol. My friends still tease me about the incident, though, so I guess it makes for a funny story.
80s was the best times for movies! Predator, aliens,monster squad, empire strikes back, return of the Jedi, legend, goonies, bloodsport, gremlins, American werewolf in London, silver bullet, fright night, a nightmare in elm street, childs play, ghostbusters and many more
See it's hilarious because I looks at all those movies like cheesy shitty movies made for braindead masses who can't handle complex storylines or character depth.
Chase and Murray are my two favorite comedy actors. They have similar personas, yet each is unique. IMHO Murray has the the greater number of funny comedies, but some of Chevy's movies are funnier than most Murray films. Both are icons, and deserve their place among the classic silver screen comedians, with Groucho Marx, W.C. Fields, Buster Keaton, Woody Allen, etc..
old comment I know but what are your favorite Chevy Chase movies? I think he's funny but I haven't seen many outside of caddyshack, three amigos, or the vacation movies
I understand Groundhog day is technically "formulaic", but Bill's character actually earns it in that movie. Who knows how many years he had to live that one day over and over to become a decent guy? I think that one makes the most sense.
It might have very well taken centuries. Who knows. It might have taken an eternity but at the end he found happiness in being decent human being. That was the point of the whole movie. Not just to make pc ending in the last 20 minutes. It's really baffling that Tarantino can't get past "it's just a Bill Murray Movie".
@@mitchpowell608 yea but a trend that started in the 80s could have easily spilled over into the early 90s. I mean, look movies today? Pretty sure Tarantino thinks this is the worst time for movies ever and it's not the 50s or 80s.
If he does manage to cast him, it would only be a small part since he is 78 now. BTW, I could feel Tarantino's discomfort when Rogan was talking negatively about CC. It felt like he didn't want to indulge in that kind of talk and he wanted to be appreciative of CC.
Quentin Tarantino's problem seems to be with Harold Ramis moreso than Bill Murray. Harold Ramis was an extremely spiritual writer-director who was exploring the search for meaning in life.
Sure, but Joe and most viewers have no idea who Harold Ramis is. But everyoneknows what he means by “Bill Murray movies”, even if Bill does actually play the same repentance-driven character in every movie.
That, and Tarantino seems to be describing the typical antihero arc. The redemption aspect of a film centered around an antihero asshole is necessary because the viewer sees themselves as having flaws just as Bill does, but want to believe that there is a happy ending not only for Bill but for themselves. To see flawed people learn and grow and change is a narrative arc that people really enjoy in cinema, something the audience roots for because it inspires the kind of narrative arc they'd like to see happen in their own life.
@@Seriona1 You know what people are aware Harold Ramis was a writer/director? People who open their eyes and *read*. Takes two seconds after a film ends. “Wow, that was a good movie.” Credits roll *Written and Directed by Harold Ramis* “Oh, wasn’t that the guy who played Egon in Ghostbusters?” Takes that long. I have zero tolerance for fucking stupid people.
Bill Murray chose the roles where the character becomes enlightened by the adversity and tragedy the character encounters in the plot line. Bill Murray is absolutely one of the all time greats and a genuinely good person that understands if it wasn't for the people who pay to watch his movies he would not be where he is. To show how much he appreciates his fans and the every day normal person he is still out there randomly showing up at house parties crashing wedding receptions college graduations minor league ball games you name it some average person has a picture of Bill Murray just being another person at the party. In his movies there is the continued theme of it doesn't pay to be a nasty person and that its never too late to make changes in life. Also in Groundhog Day especially the reincarnation theme and how it actually taught is fairly accurately represented as in our presence on earth can be as long or as short as the soul takes to get it right before moving on to the afterlife. There is no hell just endless do overs till you get it right and your spirit is allowed to transcend on to eternity
He can be an asshole. But years ago, he came to Glasgow scotland, ended up at someone's flat for a party, and he ended up doing the dishes for them. Cause he was disgusted.
I think it's a hoot the video almost a year old I commented 4 months ago then outta nowhere it's gaining momentum on the likes and comments. Idk he may have had a smug egotistical attitude but even back in the day I can't think of a movie he made without a moral reckoning, very similar to John Candy and Uncle Buck as in surely not the classiest fella but always a real class act.
The 80s had some amazing movies. Every decade has. The “decent” movies are the ones that he’s talking about but even the formula of “asshole becoming nice” has always been a cliche. Not just one decade.
Yeah, the 80s had some awesome movies. In a lot of ways it was the beginning of modern pop culture that we would recognize today -- 1984 might have been the greatest year in pop culture ever. But there was a general social trend in the 80s of pretending it's the 50s again, just with a lot more cocaine. It was the era of rise of neoconservatism, after all. It was different from the 70s where you basically put your vices out in the open to a weird dichotomy in the 80s of wearing a suit and tie and putting on a front during the day and then doing rails of coke off a hooker's boobs in your free time.
A friend just said, "Rocky loses the big fight in '77, by '85 he was beating a Soviet Superman to prove that individualism and capitalism is the one true path."
What else do you want to know, how the titanic sank? Man, you need to update your references who cares. That community controvery has been adressed and revomitted to an unbearable degree.
@@keithboynton So was Scrooged. Stripes is questionable. He also said it seems all the Bill Murray movies were that way. It was literally just the 3 movies he named. Chevy apparently never did Funny Farm, Snow Day, or Nothing But Trouble.
I liked 80's movies. They have a feel good factor that plays an important part in many people's lives. I also understand what Quentin is saying, and I agree it's also interesting, and truth to life to many people, that events don't change their personality. But that is not the case with everyone, and it also explains why in Quentin's movies, everyone is cynical, ulterior-motive-driven, and also a caricature. There's room in storytelling for both perspectives.
Yeah I kind of get his point, that 80s filmmakers would lean more towards the crowd pleasing ending. But Bill Murray films are light hearted comedies. They're not Taxi Driver or Chinatown. Also Tarantinos own films more often than not have crowd pleasing endings. Jules has a redemptive arc in Pulp Fiction for example, after divine intervention, as he sees it. Not that far from Groundhog Day/Scrooged. Tarantino is extremely brave in his filmmaking, but his endings are usually happy endings, not cynical. He criticises Groundhog Day for the redemptive arc, and Scrooged, which is so dumb. It's based on A Christmas Carol! The whole point is a redemptive arc! Same with Groundhog Day, thank god they took that story seriously, and didn't make it cynical. Or just some throwaway comedy. It's one of the most profound films I've ever seen! Everyday of your life depends on how you approach it! Phil Connors reality changes depending on his actions, and it's true, that is how your life works, you have immense power to effect the world. Even the criticism of Stripes is nonsense, Bills character chooses to join the army, he has a desire to better himself, he never particularly applies himself, and wings it, but him making something of a success of it isn't a cop out. He doesn't become some dull, model soldier. It's a light hearted, silly movie, with a happy ending, so what? His character remains entertaining throughout. I get the general point he's trying to make, but the examples he's using are bizarre.
If every filmmaker were like Tarantino, film would be a boring pastime. Not knocking him, he’s one of the true geniuses of Hollywood and I have grown up on his films, but they aren’t like, keystone films of people’s lives the way other directors films are. I think that irks him.
Good to hear how Tarantino feels about Chevy's movies. I know Chevy. I worked with Chevy for 4 months. When the Producer wanted to fire me( rightfully so) cos I was helping the cam dept, costume dept, sound dept, props dept etc and I did not belong to any union. Aside from that I was also an undocumented illegal worker with no papers. Chevy intervened and rescued me. Unlike other stars who rushes back to their trailers when not needed, Chevy hung out with the crew and play cards. Ate lunch with the crew. Such a funny funny guy. Thank you Chevy and thank you Quentin (after Chevy worked on Jackie Brown!!)
Yeah, I think the best films are from about 85 to 95, but some early 80's films were also pretty good, if not excellent in some cases, and even the late 90's had some great films too, it's sort of around the time the Matrix came out that it started to become just a bunch of Will Farrell comedies, Fast and the Furious shits, or regurgitated comic book hero films, with the occasional gem.
@@warlockofwordsreturnsrb4358 Alien, Indiana Jones, Die Hard, Star Wars V & VI, TRON, Stand By Me, Wall Street, Escape From New York, ROBOCOP, Top Gun, The Color of Money, Lethal Weapon, The Terminator....I can go on and on!
From the beginning I was in upside down world, it's his opinion, though, not any kind of immutable truth. I think the world will remember 80s movies as higher art than those gritty 70s movies.
@@georgiypotulov23 In my opinion there were plenty of heros in film long before the 80's. John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson, Errol Flynn, Gary Cooper, all the many cowboy heros of the 40's &50's, too many to list.
When I got my degree in creative writing they made sure to teach us the hero's journey in which the character must come to an awakening and change for the better. I never believed that's necessary but if most who graduated do then it explains this theory of films that continue to this day.
The Hero's Journey is the only way I've ever learned. Too many of my writing heros at the time were promoting it as the one and only path for your story. I must be a little dumb because I don't think I've ever really questioned it.
@@wzero07 assuptive to assume a hero’s journey is solely to become self-righteous. And what you just described is a hero’s journey. If I were to write a character that discovered some sort of humanity then that would be a “change”. Movies end. So we don’t see the rest of their lives so we have no idea whether the change was a fleeting moment or not. So it can be but if an instant.
Of course there are huge differences in 70s and 80s movies, but this seems off, like Tarantino is trying to cram a theory into his analysis of every film. The character transformation was the whole point of Groundhog Day, and frankly it worked great. Stripes was hilarious, and the Bill Murray "secret mission" was hardly the character becoming "good" but instead very much in line with the smartass, know-it-all nature of the character.
Quentin doesn't understand what "politically correct" means. If there was no change to Murray living the same day for possibly 20 years or whatever, what's the point?
I love how Quinton Tarantino always shoe horns the William Devane movie Rolling Thunder into every conversation it seems like. It is a great movie but the last 15 minutes of the movie is so fantastic you can watch it three or four times over without it getting old
Quentin was a teenager in the 70s and those years are always formative for us when it comes to pop culture. I was a teenager in the 80s and I love those movies. Still, I respect his opinion and could listen to him talk all day.
I see it differently. For me, Groundhog Day is more about how the same things that happen to one every day can be seen as positive or negative depending on our attitude towards life and other people (are the colour of the glass we look thorough at them), rather than just a film about a guy who redeems himself. OK, the character redeems, but as a consequence of beginning to look at the same things with a different attitude. It is also about love. It is a funny film and very enjoyable.
I'd say the 70s had better horror movies tbh. Halloween, Alien, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Exorcist, Jaws, etc. The 80s had The Shining, Nightmare on Elm Street, and The Thing which are fantastic, but pretty much everything else in the 80s was sequels/ripoffs of 70s horror films.
@@KrikZ32 An American Werewolf in London was 1981 - hands-down STILL the best werewolf movie ever. Poltergiest, The Lost Boys, Pet Sematary, Friday the 13th. Dawn of the Dead...there are a slew of good ones. Alien, Jaws and Halloween were bad ass though, I do agree.
Love Chevy and Bill dearly. Born in late 90’s so wasn’t around to experience their prime, but man I tell ya they don’t make em like that anymore. Caddyshack will always be my favorite movie of all time
@@sanket677 Great film. The Shining, Aliens, Predator, Rocky films, Rambo films, Top Gun, Blue Velvet, Full Metal Jacket, The Untouchables, The Thing, Scarface, Indiana Jones, Star Wars films, Blade Runner (my personal favourite), The Hunger, Big Trouble in little China, Gremlins, Legend, Tango & Cash, Beverly Hills Cop, Die Hard, Mad Max 2, etc, etc, etc. Tarantino is way off here.
@@Nitrobotti I do get his point, I realise there was more studio involvement in the 80s. At the same time, it's hyperbolic to say the 80s were the worst, when in many respects the 80s put a focus on embracing the cinematics and style of film, as opposed to the narrative heavy realism of the decades before it.
Quentin- "id love to work with Chevy"
Next movie...
Pulp Vacation.
If you make it today” Pulp Vaccination”
Kill Fletch Vol 2
Brothers Vega Vacation
PLEASE make a movie with Chevy! The guy is still way talented.
That's FUCKIN HILAIRIOUS!😃
I live in Charleston SC (where Bill Murray lives) and Bill is a god when he’s spotted somewhere but he NEVER lets it get to his head. he’ll come to a bar and get behind it to serve drinks, he’ll take pics with anybody that asks nicely, and he genuinely will make an effort to look/smile or something to everybody in the room so they have a memory. he’s a national treasure and I hope he lives on for many more years with a good bill of health
"Good BILL of health "
I like what you did there! 😂
Ben you should be proud of yourself for landing a girl pretty enough to get hit on by a superstar
WTF?
You're obviously Bill Murray.
Murray has had his mpments of dickish behavior and has made some enemies but i think his schtick has aged well and he seems to have mellowed.
James Island guy here. Lots of great, “Bill” stories around the area, and I never hear anything but good things about the man.
Bill Murray is the asshole with a heart of gold. Every movie.
No, Bill Murray is the heart with an ass of gold. Most movies.
@Michael Ray I hear the same is true of Tarantino
He’s the same way in real life
Never thought it about it like that but that is sooo spot on.
In Ghostbusters he was just a silly prankster, in Caddyshack he was just a lovable dufus, a lot of actors get typecast to play a certain kind of character.
Stripes and Spies Like Us are 2 of my all time favorite comedies. Bill Murray and Chevy Chase will never be forgotten for their brilliance.
Both great actors, but Chevy is apparently a complete asshole in real life.
Yeah, they said the same thing about John Gilbert and Richard Barthelmess in the 1940s.
Spies Like Us is one of my favorite comedies of all time.
Just like John Candy too 💯🫡
Bill Murray wasn't in spies like us. That movie sucked
I wish Tarantino would do his own podcast show and just dissect movie history. Be fucking incredible. Get classic film directors and actors as guests.
New Beverly (the movie theater he owns) has a podcast he's appeared on a few times.
Nice.
If you watch the full JRE episode in the first 10 mins he says he is currently putting together a podcast to do literally exactly what you just said - so wish granted :) He said it will be called "The video archives Podcast" which is named after the video rental store (Video Archives) he used to work at before he became a film director and hes going to host it with writer director Roger Avery who he wrote pulp fiction with as they worked together at the rental store.
@@David-_-_- im little bit stupid, i cant find full podcast on yt. Where i can watch it
@@smthaboutgrassy7684 Spotify.
I love how Tarantino talks about movies. He discusses characters as of they're real people with backstory amd motivations. It's very rare to get this insight outside of the director / actor bubble.
Well they are is why. Not real in the sense they exist in the physical world but the ideas that make them and their motivations are quite real.
Iago is a perfect example of a character. You can put him in any movie, book or TV show and he will be Iago just the same. His ideals and motivations fleshed out enough for the individual to be able to infer his response to any given interaction.
I’m a weirdo who doesn’t care about movies, but hearing anyone so passionately talk about anything is amazing & I’m 2 minutes away from watching the whole episode
His critique of ground hog day is pretty shallow though. He points to it as like a cliche movie where they just suddenly changed Bill Murrays character in the last 20 minutes for no apparent reason. The whole basis for the movie is kind of built around the spiritual concept of reincarnation - with each day he is given the chance to live a new and start fresh. He starts out before this as a bit of an selfish ahole - and then as the day reset starts happening he initially uses this to go and becomes a way bigger a hole and doing all the hedonistic things he can think of. Then he confronts the negative fall out from these.
Then bored with the hedonism and negative fall out he wants to escape the loop. So he tries to be good to "escape" the day loop through going and just trying to do good deeds to kind of "appease god" or whoever is controling the time loop which also doesn't work. And then eventually he just decides he is trapped and not knowing what to do he starts creating genuine relationships with the people around him and getting to know them and actually begins to like and care about them - and finally at the end he basically lives the "perfect day". He goes and helps a lot of people and learns new skills not just to "do good deeds" to try to escape the loop - but just because he actually cares about them. This is what eventually releases him from the time loop. The movie arc is really powerful and not just some cliche "they made bill murray nice for the last 20minutes". It reminds me of the very serious estern spiritual movie "Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring" only disguised as a Bill Murray comedy
@@David-_-_- You completely failed to hear what he said, as his criticism included it being relevant to the plot, just not meaningful to the enjoyment of the viewer, and this makes sense as you can still be sarcastic with that kind of wit while being a nice guy. They're not mutually exclusive, and so it falls flat on that part on behalf of the viewer even if it makes sense for the characters in the movie world.
Quentin Tarantino is a 🎁to cinema!
He has the best Director cameo's in his own movies and friends movies as well: Dusk Till Dawn, Desperado, Pulp Fiction, Django...usually hilarious!
yeah but he needs to put the kibosh on the virtue signaling over the heavy use of female characters...WOMEN ARENT FUCKIN BADASSES
Depends who you ask lol apparently he butchered loads of asain films
@@herbyverstink Yeah, they can be.
@@paularmstrong1348 yeah, gift is a strong word lol. You can appreciate what he does as a filmmaker, I have no problem with that, but as someone who loves film I’d never put him anywhere near the greatest to ever do it. Mediocre, above avg at best.
In high school I knew a kid who was a huge Chevy Chase fan. He mimicked his mannerisms, facial expressions .... everything. He even talked like his characters and said crazy stuff when you asked him a question. It was crazy, but he was so good at it..
Was his name Ryan Reynolds?
@@thomasgow9475 nope
@@donaldgilbreath4200 You sure?
@thomasgow9475 I was gonna say it had to been ryan reynolds. Totally beat me to it.
Sounds like you had to be there
QT: 80's and 50's were the worse time for movies..."
2020's: Hold my woke-shake.
Hold my soy latte
I guess the moral of the story is that women was won’t last. Can’t wait
1950's: Sunset Boulevard, Streetcar Named Desire, Rashomon, Singing in the Rain, High Noon, Tokyo Story, Seven Samurais, Rear Window, Vertigo, Rio Bravo, Rebel Without a Cause, The Searchers, The Seventh Seal...
1980's: the most iconic decade for B-movies and action movies. Period.
Tarantino is talking out of his ass.
2020's PC culture 🤮🤮🤮
Not to mention that Groundhog Day is a masterpiece. Bill Murray's character arc isn't abrupt and undeserving as QT makes it seem.
Bill Murray is always likeable IMO
Not in king pin
i sense a bias
agree. Even in St. Vincent, when he played a total old man douche bag, he was likeable as hell lol
We can tell…
Coming from a guy with Murray as his profile picture. Lol
I have been waiting for years for this Podcast. This will be a great one
If anyone could actually watch it..
Yep! Me too. Switching to Spotify now
@@reefchiefer pretty easy to download a free app my guy lol
Loved the 80's, Die Hard, Predator, Terminator, Aliens, Midnight Run, the list goes on and on.
The Thing
Debbie does Dallas
Chevy and/or Bill were GREAT in those films!
To his point though...each of those movies are 'transformation' movies. The characters are completely different at the end than at the beginning, and they generally are not great people in the beginning.
How many 80's movies are about good people who are somehow worse at the end of the story? They are all a 'marginal' or crappy person who gets transformed into an 'enlightened' form of themself.
I agree, my favorite movies are from the 80s. Taken as a whole it was a very commercial time when producers were calling the shots in the soul interest of making a buck. I also grew up with those movies, QT grow up with the movies he loves most.
In the 90s the rise of independent film renewed that spirit of the 60s and 70s. Creative thinkers like Tarantino rose up and each infused the industry their own unique artististry.
Speaking of Bill Murray I recently rewatched "What about Bob", that movie is freaking hilarious!
classic.
Baby steps
An all-timer for me and a few family members who can stand Bob Wiley
I loved it as a kid but tried to watch it again a couple years ago and it just made me irritated
Every time I watch the movie, I still can't put a finger on who has the real issues Bob or Dr. Leo Marvin?
80’s had some of the most classic and iconic comedies ever.
Thankyou my 80's brother, and Kung Fu movies carries on getting crazier if anything, Wutang VS Shaolin, Wu Tang VS Ninja etc.. Earlier movies he CLEARLY took from, Pai Mei and the white bearded master trope (Bwa ha ha ha ah!!!) - taken to crazy extremes, but well done in the afore mentioned movies.. So many amazing comedy horror (Reanimator - watch now if you didn't yet), inadvertent comedy horror, Kung fu, Trippy movies 80's- early 90's.. Lots of sweet shit there and lots online still! Sci Fi was good too, Dune,(Brain explodes.. Lynch did well imo), Naked Lunch, Existense, big budget kid stuff like Flight of the navigator etc in the 80's.. Very sugar, but was some very cool shit for kids heck- Krull?!? Gave me nightmares as a kid and is a family movie!!!! Yeah, lots of decent shit 80's, 90's (early certainly). No denying that boss man..
Broken clock and all that
@@Unknown-rz1sj you’re 16 so we will let that slide. 80’s movies prob wouldn’t interest anyone who didn’t grow up during that time. But for us, those movies were part of our childhood
Oh okay I guess you know more about movies than one of the greatest directors of our time
@@evanlitvak2234 so you think being a director makes you a better movie watcher than everybody else? I guess a person that makes baseballs knows more about the game than anybody else too? Ignorant way of thinking
The 80s was a FANTASTIC time for movies.
That's what I was thinking. And they certainly weren't all PC like Tarantino is making it seem here.
@@CanItAlready He's just trying to sell a half-assed theory he pieced together. Just say '70s movies were cynical and that's what I like geesh...
He's insane
Especially Horror flicks. That was the golden age
Wait, back to the future was made in the 80s. Quentin is too far up his own ass
I've always loved "The Razor's Edge" with Bill Murray. You never know what movie, song, book or TV show is going to grab you and this one just grabbed me and my Dad. My Dad was a Vietnam Vet with 20 years in the US Army from 1956 to 1976 and he was always thoughtful when watching it. He said that it was true for him.
If you haven’t, take a look at the book. It’s a great read.
Sadly, I read and fell in love with the book before seeing the film. Murray ruined it for me.
the movie was supposedly Murray's homage to Belushi....
I almost scrolled past this when every fiber of my being collectively said “hol up”
Lmao exact same happened to me
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hahah same. I actually did, and then scrolled back up about 4 secs later, thinking,"Ok, I gotta hear this. "
Might just have to jump over to Spotify to listen to this crazy asshole talking sense. Can he make a bad movie?
Chevy Chase was absolut brilliant in "Christmas Vacation", that movie is a treasure!
I watch it every year at Christmas with the family.
It's a bit niply in here. Makes me laugh everytime.
Every single year, us too. And I love it, never gets old.
Watch fletch
It is in my top five movies not just Christmas movies
So funny
Love that film so much! It’s a classic.
Even though I personally love Bill Murray movie, I totally see Tarantino's point. And I kind of agree with him. However, I will always defend Groundhog Day. In that movie, it totally makes sense why he changes radically. He repeats the same day for what some have debated that is possibly more than a hundred years. He comes to his wit's end and commits suicide a multiple times to no avail. Because of that, it is believable that he has an epiphany, a somewhat religious conversion experience. He radically changes. Now the others movies, I think the criticism is more or less valid.
there's absolutely nothing wrong for a character to better itself during the movie, it's called plot, Quentin is just an asshole who hates anyone that reaches a legendary status. one example Bruce Lee.
Good point, if there is any character in the history of film who earns that kind of radical change it's Phil Connors.
I explain in another comment how in each movie Quentin references that it makes sense for Bill Murray's character to change. Groundhog Day you hit it right on the head. Scrooged is just the old Christmas Carol story, visited by the 3 ghosts, he sees all of the wrong he has done, he sees his past, his deceased parents, he sees all of that... and it changes his outlook. And Stripes he had to go through boot camp. He got beat up repeatedly. He was introduced to discipline, hard work, leadership, structure, teamwork, etc... what the Army is supposed to do to someone. It makes sense that he would no longer by a cynical deadbeat lazy bum. Quentin must have a grudge against Murray.
"Janine, sorry about the bug eyes thing. I'll be in my office."
Exactly, Groundhog Day has a lot of parallels with Scrooged (or to be precise A Christmas Carol), a story arc where a character sees the error of his ways and changes, that's the whole point. His analysis is nonsense, which is surprising coming from Quentin Tarantino.
I really hope Tarantino casts Chevy in a film. Would be so incredible to see a comeback for Chase like Murray had with Lost in Translation. Someone give that guy a script!
John Carpenters "They Live", more relevance today, than back then.
Because was a criticism to Reagan administration.
Obey. Consume.
It is a documentary.
@@theocean2698 it was a criticism on a parasitic class of "aliens" that use the media and corporations to keep the population docile.
@@tubeguy4066 sounds like democrats.
This interview is literally going to give filmmakers the courage to say fuck it
Let us pray.
I hope so, but I have my doubt, Wokeism has people terrified
Christopher Nolan on JRE for a good 2 hours would be amazing
@@Chasstful You ain't kidding. I had my film 'cancelled' at an Asian-American festival because I was a white director with an Asian woman in the lead. A small group of outraged college kids took to twitter and instagram and accused me of everything from cultural appropriation to fetishizing Asian women to white colonialism, even though my producer was a Korean woman and my co-writer was a Chinese woman. It seriously rattled me and made me never want to make another film. I can see why QT is walking away from it. They had a target on him during the release of Once Upon A Time.
As long as they're funding their own films
I think one of the best moments with Chevy Chase was in Three Amigos where they were dying of thirst in the desert and Chevy’s canteen had all that water.
We are the three aaamigoooooooos
My top CC moment is in Spies Like Us when he’s doing the press conference and perfectly fakes a microphone cutting out.
Bested only by Aykroyd’s code-breaking explanation: “just a simple polyphoneticaly grouped twenty square digit key transposed in booster vedonic form with multiple nulls”
LEGENDS
That could be the single funniest scene in the history of film. "Lip balm?" Hahahahahahahaha
😂
@@tommyjames2448 I don't know... For me, "Lips would be fine..." is way up there.
Love to see Tarantino casting Chevy chase in a big film and saving his career like he did with John Travolta.
i think he could do something really good with Chevy. Wait for Quentin to get a little soft headed so he more closely matches Chevy.. it has the potential for brilliance… we need to pull some more genuine 1970s asshole from Chevy
Chevy seems like he's retired now though. But I'd love to see that. I'm still a big Chevy fan.
Too late for Chevy.
Scientology saved John Travolta’s career! Tarantino was just an instrument.
too many actors hate him and he is such a diva
Both Chevy and Bill are legends. I will always have their 80s films loaded up in case I need a ‘pick me up’
‘Vacation’ (not the crap remake) is one of the most well ‘layered’ films of all time. You can rewatch it many many times and the subtleties and Chevys brilliance will still surprise you.
The new one is awesome
@@day245 that little brother made the movie. I busted the fuck up at his antics.
Chevy was superb in ‘Spies Like Us’ in my view
Chevy wasn’t even funny in the vacations.
I love the old Vacation movies and the new one is funny too.
Though the 80s was the decade for teen nostalgia films that are revered today - Fast Times, Ferris Bueller, 16 Candles, Back to the Future, etc.
Those films sucked.
It is commentary on this era that we revere and are trying to recycle 80's vanilla shit
#TheBreakfastClub and #StElmosFire hold up well. And ..of course .. #TheBluesBrothers. ✌😎
Three O'clock High was pretty underrated, I thought. Very bleak dark humor.
Irony had not taken over yet. Our idea of meta was Spaceballs.
Bill Murray's one of the greatest comedic actors of all time in my opinion!
Who?
@@Paul-dw2cl If you've never heard of Bill Murray I feel really sorry for you.
Joe is right about Chevy Chase. I ran into him once in Runyon Canyon in West Hollywood and he wasn't very cordial. Sometimes it's best to never meet a celebrity that you grew up watching.
Metafilter had a post from a guy who got run down in NYC by a guy wearing an ascot. It was Chevy. Fuck that guy.
Unless it’s Jim Carrey.
Ya Know? Ya Know...Ya Know?!
Chevy Chase is known be an a-hole off camera. He's one of those artists who are so good at what they do that they become super arrogant. Chevy Chase on Community was brilliant, but he himself ruined everything coz of the manchild he is♎
He’s been known to be a dick
Dude has watched a lot of movies.
and studied them
Dude has watched all of the movies!
no he hasn't seems ignorant as fuck of how many edgy 80s films there are
@@PeterParker-yg6fc He's talking industry aka mainstream and general trends, of course there are 80's that are "edgy".
Dude IS movies...
"Fletch Dies" needs to be Tarantino's final film. Imagine and ultra violent Fletch film with an old Chevy Chase at his wits end on one last caper that kills him.
That's brilliant
It has just been announced that they are making a Fletch 3 movie. Perhaps this is all subliminally letting us know 'Fletch Dies' is on the way lol
@@judgeberry6071 what??? no way!
@@demonicsweaters I'm looking forward to it. I love the Fletch movies 😂
Fletch dies is genius my man
Now this is a guest, finally a break from UFO experts & Bear zoologists
please let me know when Bill Burr stops talking about hockey and his daugter
yeah where are the alien bear experts?
@@TactileTherapy we’re on the exact same page with podcasts
Lmao true
Happy to hear they both are fans of Chevy Chase. He saved the 80's movie wise.
I'll never forget the first time I watched Reservoir Dogs. Such a classic.
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Were Chevy Chase and Bill Murray in it?
I had that shit on Laserdisc. I worked at a video store
and could get all of my discs at cost.
12 Angry Men, Rebel Without a Cause, Singing in the Rain, Rear Window, Vertigo, Bridge on the river Kwai, A Streetcar named Desire, The Searchers, On the Waterfront, North By Northwest...etc
Not sure what Tarantinos idea of terrible movies is but it sure isn't mine. The 50s had some of the greatest films in history.
Uh yeah
Tarantino can make what he wants to make, and I think he's got some good movies, but his philosophy seems to be that every movie should be the same --- the kind of movie he would make --- which I don't like at all.
I also think that his idea of a good story is generally subversive and not a good influence on a society, especially considering that children watch movies.
Quentin was just entering adulthood around the start of the eighties. There seems to be a pattern around early adulthood where people start to become critical (almost hyper-critcial - the "hipster attitude") and more discerning about what they consume, so it's understandable he's so critical of eighties movies. The media people consume during their child and adolescent years is often viewed in an idealistic, uncritical haze. There is a correlation in the music realm. So many kids who grew up on late 60's/70's music hated 80's music, often complaining it was overproduced and too commercial. This is what led to the grunge rebellion in the early 90's.
And then the happy go lucky era of the 2000s 😆
Or you came of age around 2000 and figured out how to download movies from the 80s and 70s and see exactly what he's talking about.. "So many kids who grew up on late 60's/70's music hated 80's music" have you ever even listened to music from that era? You can pretty much chart the downward decline of rock music. You can go with your opinion and all that, but it's objective fact that guitar base music decline in popularity every year after 1977. "This is what led to the grunge rebellion in the early 90's." grunge was a product of innovation in recording technology. Starting in the late 80s, audio compression technology became common place. Before that point the only way to make a full sound was to play fast and busy guitar. When compression technology hit, slow tempo/down tuned guitars started sounding full. Grunge is just a branding it was literally nothing more than a change in production technology. "The media people consume during their child and adolescent years is often viewed in an idealistic, uncritical haze" Then you become an adult and can sample things on your own.
@@dixonhill1108 Yeah, right. So movies were all sunshine and rainbows in the 80's. It's not like that was the era of the "video nasty" and the dawn of such genres as body horror. The MXR compression pedal had been available since the early seventies. Led Zeppelin extensively used compression to create their signature sound (creating slower, heavier songs such as When The Levee Breaks). Even the Stones used compression. If the only thing that seperates 80's commercial glam/hair metal "cock rock" from 90's grunge/alternative rock is the technology, why then is the lyrical content so radically different? 80's hair rock is all about girls and partying. 90's grunge is far darker, introspective with existentialist themes.
Ouch ! Im a hypocrite
@@pleasebeinteresting I can only take it that you are referencing the fact that I stated the difference in lyrical theme/ mood from 80's glam rock to 90's grunge/alternative and that that difference in theme and mood is applicable to Tarantino discerning between 60/70's film-making to 80's film-making. The point is no one mood/theme generally defines an entire era/decade. At the same time 80's glam rock was pre-occupied with more testoterone-fueled themes there were more serious and interesting themes being explored in 80's New Wave and Romantic music. Even a song as "poppy" as Nena's 99 Red Balloons is actually a reference about the 80's cold war (very applicable to now).
I’m so glad Tarantino finally went on the show. Despite his personality, he truly is a filmmaker, not a studio filmmaker
What’s wrong with his personality?
@@kanegarvey3188 guess the point of his point in this video was missed… he’s just himself
He works for studios and uses studios…so…
What's wrong with his personality?
He’s 100% a studio filmmaker. Not to mention SJW. He was the Weinsteins’ lapdog.
I love Chevy Chase , glad to see him being brought up lmao.
Tarantino said he'd love to work with him. That would be cool.
The old National Lampoon movies are classics.
Same here. Big fan of Fletch, even the second one. And of course many others too.
He's very likeable onscreen.
Why is this hilarious?
Now I want Chevy on JRE & in a Tarantino film.
Why?
Quentin makes a great point about Chevy Chase, for me, Fletch is the best example of his point, the character never faulters from the start, always sarcastic, senseless yet smart, funny, and not surprisingly very entertaining..... Tarantino is the Tarkovsky of my generation.
You are going to need rubber gloves. Do you own rubber gloves? I rent them. I have a lease with an option to buy.
QT resurrecting Chevy Chase is the Hollywood twist I didn't know I needed.
QT wants to do one last movie. Imagine if Chase was the lead. lol
QT used Mike Myers, so he wouldn't be the first SNL actor he used.
I think zero people saw the John Travolta one ahead of time
No one wants to work with him because he's a massive dbag
Bill Murray is a legend
Bill Murray sucks
@@lovablesnowman Weird.
He’s a real life Abed from Community lol.
while Chevy is a real life Pierce. how quaint!
Except he has talent
Tarantino is to me one of the few,and best movie makers there is...his movies are so recognizable,fun,explosive.. and every movie he made had at least 1 scene that became legendary
And they all show his love for women with pretty feet
He learned while he was at Jeffrey Epstein's Island.
I feel like this conversation topic would be a scene in one of his movies
so fucking true lmaoo
Fax dont care about your feelings
Would be hilarious if all of a sudden "The Gimp" came running out of the back room all tied up while they're sitting there talking...jk
yep. His particular way of thinking really shines through in his screenplays
I feel like…….. nice. How original
"Do you do drugs Timmy?"
"Everyday sir."
"That's good Timmy."
*Danny
Who the fuck is Timmy?
So what's the problem? Chevy is the best. Chevy is the greatest comic actor, and Norm is the best stand-up hands down.
@@duderama6750 Watch Caddyshack.
@@LanceVanceDance84 Greatest movie ever made!
Joe Rogan: I hope chevy is OK
Tarantino: he made good movies!
The rest of us: Neither
@@bobthebear1246 Nope - most reaffirm the sentiment
Chevy did not make good movies .. he plays the same character in every movie ..
@@dayra6425 Clark Griswold and Fletch are the same?
@@dayra6425 Even if that were true, so does Jack Nicholson and Samuel L. Jackson.
Chevy Chase is a comedy god, you goof.
Not a big fan of Tarantino's movies, but HUGE fan of the man. Incredible individual.
You are dick riding Tarantino but not for the thing he is best at ? That makes sense.
I could watch "What About Bob" over and over. It's always hilarious. #teammurray
Awesome!
It’s a crap ass movie honestly
I'm sailing!
Baby steps
I love that movie! Bill Murry was great in that. Probably seen it 12 times. Richard Dreyfuss was great too. "Why don't you take a vacation?".. "I'M ON VACATION!!!" LOL
For those who don't speak Tarantino here is a translation:
"I single handedly rescued Hollywood from itself in the 90s"
By lifting other's ideas aka homage.
Chevy Chase has the distinguished legacy of being overhyped in his prime and sorely underappreciated afterward.
As a kid who grew up in the 90s/early 00s I loved old Chevy chase movies back in the day
This comment deserves all the likes.
@@AdamWatt00 same here man. Funny Farm is still hilarious
Overhyped in his prime, my ass.
Yeah, kind of the opposite of Bill. He's like a superhero figure now, where as he wasn't really respected back when he was doing good work.
Chevy Chase had an addiction to pain killers due to his early slapstick pratt fall style. When you 're hurting your entire body is tensed up and therefore so is your mind. I've suffered minor and major injuries through my lifetime, unstable compression fracture of my L3 Vertebrae, a hip replacement, busted knee cap resulting in knee surgery and now diabetic neuropathy which causes me to tense up. I have to concentrate on relaxing my muscles and putting a smile on my face so people around me will appreciate my companionship.
Some pretty good 80s films
The thing ,America werewolf in London, aliens,
The evil dead ,blade runner ,full metal jacket, platoon
Just some of my favourites
Chase got that old man Harrison Ford vibe about him. “Go bother someone else, kiddo!”
Yes Harrison Ford was the worst celebrity encounter of my lifetime. Dude aggressively hates his fanbase, and needs to get over himself.
@@KidFresh71 What happened, you gotta tell us the story!!!!
@@SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77 Was given amazing Star Wars art for my birthday. Amazingly, in walks Harrison Ford to the same restaurant (by himself; solo you could say). Having a few drinks in me and thinking this a cosmic coincidence, I meekly and humbly approached Mr. Ford as he was waiting to be seated and asked him to sign my artwork. He wouldn't look at me nor talk to me, and asked for me to be kicked out of the restaurant. The entire encounter lasted less than 30 seconds, but felt like a hellish lifetime.
Embarrassingly, Ford was seated at the table next to my birthday celebration. He ended up meeting Jon Favreu; most likely discussing "Cowboys & Aliens" from the timeframe of it all. The only reason I wasn't kicked out of the restaurant is because I was staying at the hotel (Beverly Hills Hotel), and was a regular at the restaurant (Polo Lounge). After our meal concluded, I was literally escorted out like I was some sort of criminal, being admonished by hotel security: "Now we're not going to bother Mr. Ford again, are we?" Seriously, all that fuss and it would've taken 3 seconds to just give me his damn signature lol. My friends still tease me about the incident, though, so I guess it makes for a funny story.
@@KidFresh71 I never liked him and he seemed like a dick when I saw him in the Jackson Hole airport. Now I have confirmation.
There you have it, Chevy and Ford are different but both should be recalled for old TSBs that haven't been remedied.
80s was the best times for movies! Predator, aliens,monster squad, empire strikes back, return of the
Jedi, legend, goonies, bloodsport, gremlins, American werewolf in London, silver bullet, fright night, a nightmare in elm street, childs play, ghostbusters and many more
Great movies! I especially love A Nightmare on Elm Street
80s were all about blockbusters. Early 70s movies were more complex, slower in general... example: Lethal Weapon vs French Connection.
See it's hilarious because I looks at all those movies like cheesy shitty movies made for braindead masses who can't handle complex storylines or character depth.
I disagree 2000s til now is the best time for movies 80s was the best time for props
@@shilohwehrmacht2947 lol no
Chase and Murray are my two favorite comedy actors. They have similar personas, yet each is unique. IMHO Murray has the the greater number of funny comedies, but some of Chevy's movies are funnier than most Murray films. Both are icons, and deserve their place among the classic silver screen comedians, with Groucho Marx, W.C. Fields, Buster Keaton, Woody Allen, etc..
Good point, the first Vacation has every Murray movie beat but Bill has a larger collection of good movies and an overall better career.
old comment I know but what are your favorite Chevy Chase movies? I think he's funny but I haven't seen many outside of caddyshack, three amigos, or the vacation movies
"The 80's and the 50's were the worse time for movies."...The 2010's-current time: "hold my beer"
Isnt it the 20s now
@@blakegebauer76 2010’s-current time, he means that by “from 2010 up until now”
@@BiscuitZombies i dont think last decade was nearly as bad for movies as this one is turning out to be
@@blakegebauer76 yeah I’d agree.
@@blakegebauer76 This decade got shut down for 15 months due to covid, so studios only released their turds. Or was that your point?
I understand Groundhog day is technically "formulaic", but Bill's character actually earns it in that movie. Who knows how many years he had to live that one day over and over to become a decent guy? I think that one makes the most sense.
It might have very well taken centuries. Who knows. It might have taken an eternity but at the end he found happiness in being decent human being. That was the point of the whole movie. Not just to make pc ending in the last 20 minutes. It's really baffling that Tarantino can't get past "it's just a Bill Murray Movie".
@@tamarans.ns.ii.4968 yeah Ground Hog was a great, great movie movie, deep deep deep
Groundhog day came out in 1993
@@mitchpowell608 yea but a trend that started in the 80s could have easily spilled over into the early 90s. I mean, look movies today? Pretty sure Tarantino thinks this is the worst time for movies ever and it's not the 50s or 80s.
GROUNDHOG, I'VE COME TO BARGAIN
3:00 I'm only gonna have to disagree when it comes to Bill Murray in Ghosbusters he stayed an ass throughout
Thankfully
He learns NOTHING and we love it.
Same with Kingpin
he just hates bill murray because bill murray isn't part of his hollywood liberal buddies.., I'll take bill M over talentless Tarantino any day
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“Talentless”? OK dude 👌🏿
Tarantino should become a professional critic and historian when he's done making his own work. He's got such a mind for the whole medium.
I love 80s movies. Lots of classics.
Would love to see Chevy Chase in a Tarantino movie. Tarantino seems to bring back people's careers sometimes.
It worked for John Travolta.
@@TheGosslings It sure did!
I think with directors that have his clout, it would work. Read many times that Chevy's an a-hole to deal with.
@@rlross3706 I have heard that to unfortunately. Tarantino might indeed get the best out of him
If he does manage to cast him, it would only be a small part since he is 78 now.
BTW, I could feel Tarantino's discomfort when Rogan was talking negatively about CC. It felt like he didn't want to indulge in that kind of talk and he wanted to be appreciative of CC.
Quentin Tarantino's problem seems to be with Harold Ramis moreso than Bill Murray. Harold Ramis was an extremely spiritual writer-director who was exploring the search for meaning in life.
Sure, but Joe and most viewers have no idea who Harold Ramis is. But everyoneknows what he means by “Bill Murray movies”, even if Bill does actually play the same repentance-driven character in every movie.
Egon bro
@@omalley16 If anyone knows Harold Ramis, they will always think of Egon. I'd be surprised if anyone knew he did directing and writing.
That, and Tarantino seems to be describing the typical antihero arc. The redemption aspect of a film centered around an antihero asshole is necessary because the viewer sees themselves as having flaws just as Bill does, but want to believe that there is a happy ending not only for Bill but for themselves. To see flawed people learn and grow and change is a narrative arc that people really enjoy in cinema, something the audience roots for because it inspires the kind of narrative arc they'd like to see happen in their own life.
@@Seriona1 You know what people are aware Harold Ramis was a writer/director? People who open their eyes and *read*. Takes two seconds after a film ends.
“Wow, that was a good movie.”
Credits roll
*Written and Directed by Harold Ramis*
“Oh, wasn’t that the guy who played Egon in Ghostbusters?”
Takes that long. I have zero tolerance for fucking stupid people.
omg I didn't know I needed that 90s Chevy Chase & Quentin Tarantino mashup movie.
Bill Murray chose the roles where the character becomes enlightened by the adversity and tragedy the character encounters in the plot line. Bill Murray is absolutely one of the all time greats and a genuinely good person that understands if it wasn't for the people who pay to watch his movies he would not be where he is. To show how much he appreciates his fans and the every day normal person he is still out there randomly showing up at house parties crashing wedding receptions college graduations minor league ball games you name it some average person has a picture of Bill Murray just being another person at the party. In his movies there is the continued theme of it doesn't pay to be a nasty person and that its never too late to make changes in life. Also in Groundhog Day especially the reincarnation theme and how it actually taught is fairly accurately represented as in our presence on earth can be as long or as short as the soul takes to get it right before moving on to the afterlife. There is no hell just endless do overs till you get it right and your spirit is allowed to transcend on to eternity
Prove it
Think Murray had plenty of a hole times when he was younger ... aging a few years hopefully teaches you some good lessons
He can be an asshole.
But years ago, he came to Glasgow scotland, ended up at someone's flat for a party, and he ended up doing the dishes for them. Cause he was disgusted.
Bruh. Okay cool story??
I think it's a hoot the video almost a year old I commented 4 months ago then outta nowhere it's gaining momentum on the likes and comments. Idk he may have had a smug egotistical attitude but even back in the day I can't think of a movie he made without a moral reckoning, very similar to John Candy and Uncle Buck as in surely not the classiest fella but always a real class act.
The 80s had some amazing movies. Every decade has. The “decent” movies are the ones that he’s talking about but even the formula of “asshole becoming nice” has always been a cliche. Not just one decade.
Are you arguing film history with Tarantino? I’ll take his account.
Every decade has gems (same with music), but that does not mean all eras had an equal amount of great movies.
Certainly not!
Yeah, the 80s had some awesome movies. In a lot of ways it was the beginning of modern pop culture that we would recognize today -- 1984 might have been the greatest year in pop culture ever. But there was a general social trend in the 80s of pretending it's the 50s again, just with a lot more cocaine. It was the era of rise of neoconservatism, after all. It was different from the 70s where you basically put your vices out in the open to a weird dichotomy in the 80s of wearing a suit and tie and putting on a front during the day and then doing rails of coke off a hooker's boobs in your free time.
@@brent5832 tarentino likes westerns so yeah there's that
But all of Chase's movies are in the 80s too. What point is he making, other than sounding like Tarantino?
A friend just said, "Rocky loses the big fight in '77, by '85 he was beating a Soviet Superman to prove that individualism and capitalism is the one true path."
@HeHateMe He beat Drago
@@tfsr401yupp. And he lost the big fight. In 77 eight years earlier
@@midoublelz2257 It was in '76 but I get what he means
@@tfsr401 do you get what me means tho. Do you really?
@@tfsr401 like really really. Do you really get it? Cause it seems like you don't. Your comment is misleading.
Bill Murray certainly didn’t change at the end of ‘Kingpin’ LOL……. “I CAN BUY MY WAY OUT OF ANYTHING!!” 😂
One could say Chevy Chase movies were "Streets Ahead".
Yeah, cause everything QT said about Chevy Chase characters is absolutely true in Community.
If not then you're streets behind.
I may be stupid but I’m at least I’m not a lesbian
It'd be wild if Tarantino directed the Community movie.
One would have to be an idiot.
The Fletch movies were brilliant, also Spies Like Us and Three Amigo's.
Would you say that is a plethora of movies?
@@deevita7459 deep cut comment
And the first Vacation is a masterpiece.
@@deevita7459 more like a plethora of unfunny 'comedies '.
@@waynej2608 no one needed that
Get Chevy on the Podcast!
I want to know his take on Community
Me too!
I still hope he will be in the movie as a flashback or hallucination though
What else do you want to know, how the titanic sank? Man, you need to update your references who cares. That community controvery has been adressed and revomitted to an unbearable degree.
I doubt he would be into it
We already know how he feels about community. Doubt Joe Rogan has watched it to question it.
Chevy: Get the f**k away from me!
Let’s not forget Chevy in Foul Play, where he’s quintessentially that character plus very charming.
Groundhog Day might be one of the best films ever made.
No kidding. I don't appreciate him crapping on that movie.
Not the best. But it's entertaining.
It's certainly a winter warmer
@@keithboynton So was Scrooged. Stripes is questionable. He also said it seems all the Bill Murray movies were that way. It was literally just the 3 movies he named. Chevy apparently never did Funny Farm, Snow Day, or Nothing But Trouble.
@@eroccha Wow, you disproved his whole theory with a few words. I love his movies but sometimes Quentin just makes up shit.
To summarize Tarantino’s problem with 80’s movies- Not enough feet...
Is he a foot guy?
@@sniffit123 wiggle your big toe
Notorious “Shrimper “.
@@gerardmurphy8278 the scene where she squishes the eyeball between her toes is straight up weird.
Haha😃😍🐣
To be fair “Scrooged” is just following the source material. Ish.
@Roderick Kerr *Eddie Murphy thinking.gif* hahah
@Roderick Kerr No, the perfect vehicle for Bill Murray will always be the "Ecto-1"
@@Mr-E. Kayode Ewumi*
I thought it was funny they brought up Scrooge as an example. It is a retelling of a Christmas carol what did they think was going to happen.
it makes a lot of sense in groundhog day aswell given the buddhist ideas in it
1:24 Falling Down, with Michael Douglas is a textbook example of this....that's literally what they did with the little "twist" at the end.
I liked 80's movies. They have a feel good factor that plays an important part in many people's lives.
I also understand what Quentin is saying, and I agree it's also interesting, and truth to life to many people, that events don't change their personality.
But that is not the case with everyone, and it also explains why in Quentin's movies, everyone is cynical, ulterior-motive-driven, and also a caricature.
There's room in storytelling for both perspectives.
Some great movies came out of the 80's.
Yeah I kind of get his point, that 80s filmmakers would lean more towards the crowd pleasing ending. But Bill Murray films are light hearted comedies. They're not Taxi Driver or Chinatown. Also Tarantinos own films more often than not have crowd pleasing endings. Jules has a redemptive arc in Pulp Fiction for example, after divine intervention, as he sees it. Not that far from Groundhog Day/Scrooged. Tarantino is extremely brave in his filmmaking, but his endings are usually happy endings, not cynical. He criticises Groundhog Day for the redemptive arc, and Scrooged, which is so dumb. It's based on A Christmas Carol! The whole point is a redemptive arc! Same with Groundhog Day, thank god they took that story seriously, and didn't make it cynical. Or just some throwaway comedy. It's one of the most profound films I've ever seen! Everyday of your life depends on how you approach it! Phil Connors reality changes depending on his actions, and it's true, that is how your life works, you have immense power to effect the world. Even the criticism of Stripes is nonsense, Bills character chooses to join the army, he has a desire to better himself, he never particularly applies himself, and wings it, but him making something of a success of it isn't a cop out. He doesn't become some dull, model soldier. It's a light hearted, silly movie, with a happy ending, so what? His character remains entertaining throughout. I get the general point he's trying to make, but the examples he's using are bizarre.
Yet critics always prefer a hero's arc to have a change of heart. Only villains are allowed to remain prickly by the end.
If every filmmaker were like Tarantino, film would be a boring pastime. Not knocking him, he’s one of the true geniuses of Hollywood and I have grown up on his films, but they aren’t like, keystone films of people’s lives the way other directors films are. I think that irks him.
There were just as many bad 80's movies as there were good.
Before Joe moved to Texas, he had a podcast once upon a time in Hollywood.
Mad gay bro
Good to hear how Tarantino feels about Chevy's movies. I know Chevy. I worked with Chevy for 4 months. When the Producer wanted to fire me( rightfully so) cos I was helping the cam dept, costume dept, sound dept, props dept etc and I did not belong to any union. Aside from that I was also an undocumented illegal worker with no papers. Chevy intervened and rescued me. Unlike other stars who rushes back to their trailers when not needed, Chevy hung out with the crew and play cards. Ate lunch with the crew. Such a funny funny guy. Thank you Chevy and thank you Quentin (after Chevy worked on Jackie Brown!!)
Love this. Get Paul Thomas Anderson on Joe. Please.
What a podcast that would be. I love there will be blood, favorite movie ever.
From watching the first 3 minutes, you can tell Tarantino has stayed up late many nights arguing movies with his friends. This is great to watch.
Chevy was great on the sitcom "Community" in the early 2010's
Yeah and then got thrown under the bus.
80's had the MOST MEMORABLE collection of movies, good or bad.
Damn, I'm really nostalgic about 80s movies lol.
There's plenty of exceptions to the rule Tarantino is talking about, it's more a general mainstream issue with '80s movies.
Yeah, I think the best films are from about 85 to 95, but some early 80's films were also pretty good, if not excellent in some cases, and even the late 90's had some great films too, it's sort of around the time the Matrix came out that it started to become just a bunch of Will Farrell comedies, Fast and the Furious shits, or regurgitated comic book hero films, with the occasional gem.
I disagree with him about the 80s, but I would choose Hollywood in any of those decades over the last 10 years.
@@warlockofwordsreturnsrb4358 Alien, Indiana Jones, Die Hard, Star Wars V & VI, TRON, Stand By Me, Wall Street, Escape From New York, ROBOCOP, Top Gun, The Color of Money, Lethal Weapon, The Terminator....I can go on and on!
From the beginning I was in upside down world, it's his opinion, though, not any kind of immutable truth.
I think the world will remember 80s movies as higher art than those gritty 70s movies.
This is literally the first time in my life that I've heard someone claim that there were not enough anti-heroes in the 80's.
Yeah, that was a dumb thing to say
Mad Max anyone? Snake Plissken? Those are both the definition of anti-hero.
@@georgiypotulov23 In my opinion there were plenty of heros in film long before the 80's. John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson, Errol Flynn, Gary Cooper, all the many cowboy heros of the 40's &50's, too many to list.
@@foofyastralpunk5875 yeah clint eastwood in his western movies is the epitome of an antihero.
@@heldig5617 His picture is literally in Wikipedia on the antihero entry.
When I got my degree in creative writing they made sure to teach us the hero's journey in which the character must come to an awakening and change for the better. I never believed that's necessary but if most who graduated do then it explains this theory of films that continue to this day.
What have you published? Since you know it all.
@@amberlopez7477 your entire sentence is a fallacy.
@@JonChrymes Ah!, Yes. Your book is listed under rubbish.
The Hero's Journey is the only way I've ever learned. Too many of my writing heros at the time were promoting it as the one and only path for your story. I must be a little dumb because I don't think I've ever really questioned it.
@@wzero07 assuptive to assume a hero’s journey is solely to become self-righteous. And what you just described is a hero’s journey. If I were to write a character that discovered some sort of humanity then that would be a “change”. Movies end. So we don’t see the rest of their lives so we have no idea whether the change was a fleeting moment or not. So it can be but if an instant.
Of course there are huge differences in 70s and 80s movies, but this seems off, like Tarantino is trying to cram a theory into his analysis of every film. The character transformation was the whole point of Groundhog Day, and frankly it worked great. Stripes was hilarious, and the Bill Murray "secret mission" was hardly the character becoming "good" but instead very much in line with the smartass, know-it-all nature of the character.
Quentin doesn't understand what "politically correct" means. If there was no change to Murray living the same day for possibly 20 years or whatever, what's the point?
I'm so glad Quentin loves Chevy's acting and filmography
I love how Quinton Tarantino always shoe horns the William Devane movie Rolling Thunder into every conversation it seems like. It is a great movie but the last 15 minutes of the movie is so fantastic you can watch it three or four times over without it getting old
National Lampoon movies are golden, Chevy Chase is a highly unappreciated Actor.
That movie is in my Top 25 movies of all time
Did you see the latest one "Vacation"? I thought it was hilarious.
He was also really funny on Community, Pierce was a role that nobody else could have played
Facts! Fletch so underrated
@@stephendexheimer7914 so good
I would love to see Chase in a Tarantino movie just for the spectacle of it. You never think of those two together.
Quentin was a teenager in the 70s and those years are always formative for us when it comes to pop culture. I was a teenager in the 80s and I love those movies. Still, I respect his opinion and could listen to him talk all day.
I'm the same thanks to nostalgia, but I think critically Quentin is probably right. But I often love the cheesy movies and music of the 80's.
the 80's was the best decade period
80’s was the most cringe decade in history. Very little good came from it besides maybe Dire Straits
@@johnadams1281 really? more cringe than disco? Bahahahahahahaha
The 80s was the greatest decade. And most 90s culture and 2010s culture pail in comparison.
Dude that part where they beg us to use Spotify is like 8 minutes long now
But it's absolutely free. Go to Spotify NOW to get the full episode of the Joe Rogan Experience
Bruh PLEASE go on Spotify like PLEASE bro it’s so easy just go on BRO
I'll never use Spotify 😝🤣😂
Without comment section I feel alone
🤣🤣
The movie “Funny Farm” with Chevy Chase is so hilarious!
Saw it in the THEATER high as shit😂
Spies Like Us and Nothing But Trouble will have you rolling! Lol
The mailman in that movie is hilarious.
@@Tompettycash Fuck yea, Brian. I was going to mention that psycho mailman too lol. He's great.
Wow I completely forgot about funny farm. Definitely though. I know he's known for being a jerk in real life but I block it out and love his movies.
I see it differently. For me, Groundhog Day is more about how the same things that happen to one every day can be seen as positive or negative depending on our attitude towards life and other people (are the colour of the glass we look thorough at them), rather than just a film about a guy who redeems himself. OK, the character redeems, but as a consequence of beginning to look at the same things with a different attitude. It is also about love. It is a funny film and very enjoyable.
And made 1993.
Oh I remember watching Foul Play with Chevy Chase and Goldie Hawn, loved that movie
I haven't been this eager to listen to Joe Rogan since he last had Alex Jones on.
He needs to bring Jones back on.
The 80's was the best decade ever for horror films.
Yeop 100% agree. 2000s was terrible for that genre although things have picked up again in the last few years
I'd say the 70s had better horror movies tbh. Halloween, Alien, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Exorcist, Jaws, etc. The 80s had The Shining, Nightmare on Elm Street, and The Thing which are fantastic, but pretty much everything else in the 80s was sequels/ripoffs of 70s horror films.
Action too.
And action movies too 😤
@@KrikZ32 An American Werewolf in London was 1981 - hands-down STILL the best werewolf movie ever. Poltergiest, The Lost Boys, Pet Sematary, Friday the 13th. Dawn of the Dead...there are a slew of good ones. Alien, Jaws and Halloween were bad ass though, I do agree.
Love Chevy and Bill dearly. Born in late 90’s so wasn’t around to experience their prime, but man I tell ya they don’t make em like that anymore. Caddyshack will always be my favorite movie of all time
The 80's, Platoon, Terminator, Predator, Glory, The Thing...I could go on.
The list would be long
Good examples of what Quentin was saying
yes, every decade has good movies, i don't think he would disgree with you here- he is talking about overall trends
Being a pedantic prick but Glory was 1990.
God I’m a dick!
The 80s were amazing film wise.
Thank you.
My favourite 80s film is Once upon a time in America .
@@sanket677 Great film. The Shining, Aliens, Predator, Rocky films, Rambo films, Top Gun, Blue Velvet, Full Metal Jacket, The Untouchables, The Thing, Scarface, Indiana Jones, Star Wars films, Blade Runner (my personal favourite), The Hunger, Big Trouble in little China, Gremlins, Legend, Tango & Cash, Beverly Hills Cop, Die Hard, Mad Max 2, etc, etc, etc. Tarantino is way off here.
@@jrv7346 I don't think you get the point. You listed many good popcorn flicks but Tarantino wasn't talking about that.
@@Nitrobotti I do get his point, I realise there was more studio involvement in the 80s. At the same time, it's hyperbolic to say the 80s were the worst, when in many respects the 80s put a focus on embracing the cinematics and style of film, as opposed to the narrative heavy realism of the decades before it.
Tarantino is encyclopedic in his knowledge of both the big and little screens. I would love to listen to him talk about either one infinitely...