Interesting, I literally just sold off all my old dark room kit, mainly because it was taking up space but also, I couldn't print the larger negs...would probably need a custom enlarger lens....interesting.... Although I can neither confirm or deny that I am currently busy designing and building a fully 3d printed Shen hao TF617 from scratch 🤦🏻♂️
One extra feature that I think would be awesome is interchangeable masks (69, 612 etc) which can be hot swapped intra roll. That could be a whole other can of worms - but lots of fun… Not sure how I missed this when it first came out; the results are spectacular
Hmmmm, interesting. Doing it mid roll does add a bit of extra complexity, but I can't see why a mask made of the same spring steel as the Darkside (painted black of course) couldn't be made to insert in the camera side of the film plate, there a few mm of room there and the spring steel is very thin, then you would just need to adjust what you frame up in the ground glass (although that's easy with added guidelines. Honestly the biggest complication would probably be in keeping what frames you need to wind on too right in your head. I'm just finishing up building a Polaroid back for a Hasselblad, I'll have a bit of a look at this problem once that's done. Glad you enjoyed the build.
@@thefilmlaundry yes, it does add complexity to the workflow, and you’d have to either sacrifice a bit of film on the change over, or make decision which mask you’re using next before winding on. there is some real beauty in the Fuji/voigtlander 66/67 with the internal switch (only accessible when film is out) which just moves each side in or out 5mm; it also changes the wind stop - but they opted for a knob rather than winding lever for that and it’s the biggest complaint most folk have about that camera. But… up-scaling a single 5mm each side move to graduations totalling 40mm each side to get from 6x9 to 6x17 and doing it intra roll, with automatic winder limitations would be quite the challenge… Good luck with the Polaroid back!
As another commenter has said - Awesome for sharing your design files. I am also going to see about modding it to fit my Toyo 4x5 camera. Great series! I think the next "natural" progression is to design the "front half" of a camera to use your already tested and working back? There are a few 3d printed 6x17 camera designs floating out there - but would be fun to design your own.
Not a problem. Seemed silly to put all that effort in and then keep it to myself. Yeah, have to admit, for no other reason than wondering if I can I have started seriously considering it. Not a once piece like the Chroma, more I'd like to see if I can replicate a Shen Hao completely with all the movements.
I notice in the film holder design you made the two raised portions to fit in the notches on the camera, will this design fit other half plate cameras or only this model specifically? This has been the best DIY replicating a shen hou I’ve seen yet thank you for documenting this!
Hi, it depends on the camera and how it mounts the film plate, I don't think there is any standard like there is Graflock for 4 by 5, but it wouldn't be to hard to adjust the 3d model to fit other film backs as there is plenty of room with half plate cameras, did you have a specific one in mind, I can have a look and let you know. Appreciate it, has been a lot of fun to build and even more fun to use, 6:17 is an amazing format to shoot
Hi, the 3d models are available for free download on Thingiverse here www.thingiverse.com/thing:6625537 If you don't have a 3D printer there are many services online that will accept the files and print them for you extremely cheaply. When you get them if you have any questions putting them together feel free to shoot me a message and I'll do my best to help. Hope that helps.
Next, I'd love to see you DIY a 617 enlarger, so that I can copy you and enlarge my 617 images.
Interesting, I literally just sold off all my old dark room kit, mainly because it was taking up space but also, I couldn't print the larger negs...would probably need a custom enlarger lens....interesting....
Although I can neither confirm or deny that I am currently busy designing and building a fully 3d printed Shen hao TF617 from scratch 🤦🏻♂️
One extra feature that I think would be awesome is interchangeable masks (69, 612 etc) which can be hot swapped intra roll. That could be a whole other can of worms - but lots of fun…
Not sure how I missed this when it first came out; the results are spectacular
Hmmmm, interesting. Doing it mid roll does add a bit of extra complexity, but I can't see why a mask made of the same spring steel as the Darkside (painted black of course) couldn't be made to insert in the camera side of the film plate, there a few mm of room there and the spring steel is very thin, then you would just need to adjust what you frame up in the ground glass (although that's easy with added guidelines. Honestly the biggest complication would probably be in keeping what frames you need to wind on too right in your head. I'm just finishing up building a Polaroid back for a Hasselblad, I'll have a bit of a look at this problem once that's done. Glad you enjoyed the build.
@@thefilmlaundry yes, it does add complexity to the workflow, and you’d have to either sacrifice a bit of film on the change over, or make decision which mask you’re using next before winding on.
there is some real beauty in the Fuji/voigtlander 66/67 with the internal switch (only accessible when film is out) which just moves each side in or out 5mm; it also changes the wind stop - but they opted for a knob rather than winding lever for that and it’s the biggest complaint most folk have about that camera. But… up-scaling a single 5mm each side move to graduations totalling 40mm each side to get from 6x9 to 6x17 and doing it intra roll, with automatic winder limitations would be quite the challenge…
Good luck with the Polaroid back!
Would also need multiple red windows - just for extra fun confusion… which some shenhao have, but still…
As another commenter has said - Awesome for sharing your design files. I am also going to see about modding it to fit my Toyo 4x5 camera. Great series! I think the next "natural" progression is to design the "front half" of a camera to use your already tested and working back? There are a few 3d printed 6x17 camera designs floating out there - but would be fun to design your own.
Not a problem. Seemed silly to put all that effort in and then keep it to myself.
Yeah, have to admit, for no other reason than wondering if I can I have started seriously considering it. Not a once piece like the Chroma, more I'd like to see if I can replicate a Shen Hao completely with all the movements.
I notice in the film holder design you made the two raised portions to fit in the notches on the camera, will this design fit other half plate cameras or only this model specifically? This has been the best DIY replicating a shen hou I’ve seen yet thank you for documenting this!
Hi, it depends on the camera and how it mounts the film plate, I don't think there is any standard like there is Graflock for 4 by 5, but it wouldn't be to hard to adjust the 3d model to fit other film backs as there is plenty of room with half plate cameras, did you have a specific one in mind, I can have a look and let you know.
Appreciate it, has been a lot of fun to build and even more fun to use, 6:17 is an amazing format to shoot
Thank for the files, I'll let you know how it goes but I'll have to modify them to fit a 4x5 camera
Awesome, hope they can be adapted to a 4x5. I'd give it a go but I don't own one to use for mockup and measurements
Twice the size, must be twice as good 😜
Great video thanks. Is there anywhere to buy this film back? Or even the 3d printed parts?
Hi, the 3d models are available for free download on Thingiverse here www.thingiverse.com/thing:6625537
If you don't have a 3D printer there are many services online that will accept the files and print them for you extremely cheaply. When you get them if you have any questions putting them together feel free to shoot me a message and I'll do my best to help.
Hope that helps.
@@thefilmlaundry ok I’ll have to see if I can find someone thank you.
Have a look at PCBWay, they are pretty coat effective and fast turnaround.