Changes the dynamic of quite a few matches...HBKs retirement match for one...the defiant moment where Shawn does the throat slice before eating the tombstone for instance. Instead Michael's pushes the gookertaker back and defiantly does the chicken dance before eating the 20 minutes in the per pound at 400 degrees to end the match..I kinda want to see it now.
Seeing as the next war games was just announced, my suggestion will be WCW Fallbrawl 1992 (which features what is considerd by many to be the best war games match)
Another thing missed: The Ultimate Warrior team consisted of the Ultimate Warrior, The Road Warriors & The Modern Day Warrior (Kerry Von Erich's nickname before WWF)
@@TPRES_74 it really is depressing. Check out Andre the giants team from 1988...Heenan , Andre, Mr. Perfect Dino Bravo Rick Rude, Harley Race and Frenchy Martin are all dead
@@trevorharrison4362 Apparently, it was available on PPV in certain areas. I long thought the Wrestling Classic was the first PPV but this doesn't seem to be the case *Simon, if I'm wrong, feel free to do the Wrestling Classic 😉
Find it hard to hear any criticism about this event, as it's the first I ever saw and it holds a special place in my heart. Great era and great nostalgia. No idea they were all on crack.
The real backstage story of the Million Dollar Team vs the Dream Team was that Bret Hart lost his brother Dean the day before. Bret asked Dibiase to give his all in the ending of the match. That's why they had nearly a full single match at the end where Dibiase showed how good of a wrestler he really was and even won clean.
I really enjoyed the Undertaker history lesson and the story about the egg and Hector Guerrero eading into the actual review. I heard about all of it before but it's still enjoyable to hear it all again every once in a while
This was the first Wrestling Show I saw. So it will always be one of my favourite shows of all time. I would love to see this kind of Survivor Series come back and put an end to the Raw vs. Smackdown matches. Would be fun to see who would team up in the Kayfabe-Wrestling-World of today. My suggestion for a future Retro Ups & Downs: WrestleMania VIII.
I want to see WCW Bash of the Beach 96 mostly because it had some iconic moments including Hogan turning heel revealing he was Kevin Nash, and Scott Hall's 3rd member and forming the NWO the heel faction that for a while was an example on how you do heel factions correctly.
Over The Edge 1998! (NOT 1999!!) Stone Cold vs. Dude Love (Falls count anywhere) with Vince as referee, Kane vs Vader (mask vs mask), The Rock vs Farooq (intercontinental), Marc Mero vs Sable, The Nation vs. DX (6 man tag)
@@bigdaddykush1830 Not less cerebral. The business wasn't exposed to the extent it is today. They still protected it and presented it as a legit competitive sport. Today they fully acknowledge that it's all phony nonsense play fighting and embrace that.
Absolutely loved your enthusiasm here! And its completely justified. The teams on display and the promos barked out by the legends on display is the kind of incredible OTT madness that you just dont get anymore. The Warriors promos were fecking fantastic. Bonkers and brilliant. Old school promos were so good to get the place and people pumped for whatever match it was.
No surprise WhatCulture is covering the 1990 Survivor Series. Seeing how we’re coming close to The Undertaker’s 30th anniversary with WWE. Looking back, it’s kinda hard to believe that Brother Love was The Undertaker’s original manager.
Holy hell, Simon. I know I fanboy sometimes, but this quite possibly might be your best U&D videos you have ever made. You have such enthusiasm, such insight and such passion. It's honestly adorable and brilliant. You bring me so much joy and positivity and smiles. Your humor is brilliant. The world doesn't deserve you. You get a round of applause.
Simon, your unmitigated enthusiasm and nostalgia for this bygone era of wrestling makes me smile, mainly because I feel the same way. I started watching pro wrestling regularly not long before SS’90. I remember the huge hype for the egg. Also, I liked Undertaker almost instantly, and he’s now my favorite of all time. I see many of your favorites (Martel, Dibiase, Tito) are mine as well.
This was the first PPV my parents let me watch. Otherwise we rented them from blockbuster. I still have the old titan VHS of this event somewhere in storage.
As someone who lives in Canada and only recently discovered and became obsessed with 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown I can't express how happy I am you did the 30 second clock music.
Kudos on being such a fanboy that you not only excitedly find the first excuse you can to put on the repo-man mask but you also keep it on long after the actual segment that instigated it is well & truly ended...you have my congrats on your commitment to the bit!
I was 3 years old when the undertaker arrived at wwe and now im 33 years old and i got to say im truly blessed that this man is the GREATEST character wrestler ever in thr world today. Thank you undertaker for thr best matches ever.
I started watching the WWF in 1989 so I get a huge nostalgia trip as well !! Great name for Rick Martel’s team as well, the Visionaries!! As Martel supposedly blinded Jake with his ‘ arrogance ‘ aftershave!! Brilliant play on words!!
I've now listened to the whole review and it is no word of a lie, my favourite review ever! Brilliant and so funny. I love this event for all its flaws and excellence. Take me back to 1990 please. The only changes I would make, are to make Ax healthy and give the Warrior a bit of a pounding, allow Bret to win, give all of them more drugs and allow Paul Roma to win the grand finale.
@@kevinmoore2474 @Johnny Skyfire either of those two would work - as long as it is truly awful, like ECW December to Dismember '06 Simon did a few weeks ago 😂 I can't think of any specific ones, but there were some stinkers in 2003 under HHH's reign of terror
I hope we can see Retro Ups and Downs for Wrestlemania 22 one day. It's one of my favs especially with Rey Mysterio winning the World Heavyweight Championship ignore the reign itself though 😅
Agreed and you can’t use that “they didn’t need the title” people always say about guys like Jake the Snake and Roddy Piper. Perfect and The Million Dollar Man had gimmicks that called for them to be the champion.
The best part about he Gobbledy Gooker reveal was Roddy Piper laughing on commentary. Monsoon and Mean Gene were mad as hell and Roddy was acting like it was funniest thing he had ever seen.
Andre the Giant and the Dynamite Kid both used to do the Tombstone piledriver. Undertaker wasn't the first. So the commentators calling it a tombstone isn't really weird
I actually think Roddy Piper did just fine at this show. He did a 'mic-bump' when Undertaker came out. I remember that more than any of his spoken lines. LOL
Now I knew what a Pallbearer was as a kid cus I just asked a lot of questions and asked my mom at a funeral who was carrying the casket. But Simon just blew my mind with the Hitman/Sharpshooter pun🤯
Undertaker and Paul Bearer I always understood. It's a little more obvious. But Hitman and Sharpshooter I did not get. As a kid I just thought that that's what the move was called
27:26- I’m not 100% certain that it’s true or not but I just saw another video talking about them and that rope situation. And they said that they both wanted the other to get out of the ring and then they would turn around and do one more celebration pose by themself so they can acted like they were the better wrestler and fans loved them more! Kinda funny but with both of their egos it makes perfect sense!!!
@@jadziaezri2616 is wonder if this was the 2nd pun” used for a wrestler’s gimmick and finishing move. The first possibly being the Undertaker/Paul Bearer pun.
My favorite promo line about this SS....the Warrior, talking to Brother Love 'If anything comes out of that egg looking like YOU Brother Love, I WILL SCRAMBLE IT!!' Just makes me laugh soo much lol
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Hi WhatCulture Wrestling
TNA LOCKDOWN 2005
Survivor Series 2005 or Wrestlemania 20
Wrestlemania 28 undertaker vs triple h - hell in a cell
My first Wrestlemania
In an alternate universe, Brock Lesnar conquered the Gobbledy Gooker's undefeated streak at Wrestlemania.
Actually in an alternate universe it was Heath Slater doing the conquering.
Nah i think undertaker would've beated Gobbledy Gooker's streak at WM
Gilberg vs brock
Changes the dynamic of quite a few matches...HBKs retirement match for one...the defiant moment where Shawn does the throat slice before eating the tombstone for instance. Instead Michael's pushes the gookertaker back and defiantly does the chicken dance before eating the 20 minutes in the per pound at 400 degrees to end the match..I kinda want to see it now.
@@TJDious honestly curt hawkins was there at the time so one of them
I was today years old when I made the Hitman/Sharpshooter connection. Thank you Simon.
Don't feel bad, I only just put it together about a month ago why Val Venis' finisher was called the Money Shot.
@@glennwelsh9784 delete this pls
I haven't thought about Bret in a while but, yes I was today years old too.
Wait whaaaaaaaa brahhhhhh
Same...
I’ll keep suggesting it: Bash at the Beach 1996, formation of the nWo and Hogan’s heel turn.
I approve
I give it an up😎
I want this as well
I'm 100% with you on that
There's a hundred videos about this, original suggestions will be far more satisfying
Simon's rendition of the Warriors promo had me in tears. Had to listen to it twice.
Suggestion for the next one: This Tuesday in Texas. It has Repo Man!
Repo man!
🤣
I am inclined to agree with you on this one. For Repo Man
Yes! Surely Miller must do a Repo Retro Ups n Downs
This Tuesday in Texas, good call. WM6 would be good as well.
Simon’s love for Repo Man makes me smile 😂
Seeing as the next war games was just announced, my suggestion will be WCW Fallbrawl 1992 (which features what is considerd by many to be the best war games match)
Another thing missed: The Ultimate Warrior team consisted of the Ultimate Warrior, The Road Warriors & The Modern Day Warrior (Kerry Von Erich's nickname before WWF)
I kind of thought there wasnt anyone at what culture old enough to get that.
And now they're all dead. Wonder why.
@@distantandvague you are asking that like you didnt know Tornado was a suicide
There all gone including Mene Gene in the promo.
@@TPRES_74 it really is depressing. Check out Andre the giants team from 1988...Heenan , Andre, Mr. Perfect Dino Bravo Rick Rude, Harley Race and Frenchy Martin are all dead
Simon how dare you do this to my brain with the Hitman Sharpshooter thing
😂😂😂
Warriors promo doesn’t beat his “How do you prepare you must ask yourself?” Promo. Just amazing lol
Promos have names???
Suggestion for next video: Wrestlemania 1, the first WWE ppv (why not?!?)
Actually wrestlemania 1 was broadcast over closed circuit tv not ppv
@@trevorharrison4362 Apparently, it was available on PPV in certain areas. I long thought the Wrestling Classic was the first PPV but this doesn't seem to be the case *Simon, if I'm wrong, feel free to do the Wrestling Classic 😉
Why not? Here's why not.
WM1 wasn't wwe first ppv
Time to pull down the Simon Miller "If you know, you know" chalkboard and start keeping track
Find it hard to hear any criticism about this event, as it's the first I ever saw and it holds a special place in my heart. Great era and great nostalgia. No idea they were all on crack.
I'm really disappointed they didn't do the "Grand Finale" any other year. That was probably the best idea Survivor Series had.
Just a reminder of the idea again in case you didn't see it; Miller's Choice once a month for Retro!
Glad to see someone else appreciating the awesomeness that was The Model Rick Martel! Loved the guy!
Very underrated.
The real backstage story of the Million Dollar Team vs the Dream Team was that Bret Hart lost his brother Dean the day before. Bret asked Dibiase to give his all in the ending of the match. That's why they had nearly a full single match at the end where Dibiase showed how good of a wrestler he really was and even won clean.
I really enjoyed the Undertaker history lesson and the story about the egg and Hector Guerrero eading into the actual review. I heard about all of it before but it's still enjoyable to hear it all again every once in a while
This was the first Wrestling Show I saw. So it will always be one of my favourite shows of all time. I would love to see this kind of Survivor Series come back and put an end to the Raw vs. Smackdown matches. Would be fun to see who would team up in the Kayfabe-Wrestling-World of today. My suggestion for a future Retro Ups & Downs: WrestleMania VIII.
I want to see WCW Bash of the Beach 96 mostly because it had some iconic moments including Hogan turning heel revealing he was Kevin Nash, and Scott Hall's 3rd member and forming the NWO the heel faction that for a while was an example on how you do heel factions correctly.
Over The Edge 1998! (NOT 1999!!)
Stone Cold vs. Dude Love (Falls count anywhere) with Vince as referee, Kane vs Vader (mask vs mask), The Rock vs Farooq (intercontinental), Marc Mero vs Sable, The Nation vs. DX (6 man tag)
“Hitman” “sharpshooter” how did I not get that before 🤦🏽♂️
He meant sharpshooter HITS the target
The E were dealing with a less cerebral crowd in those days...the smarts were the exception and not the rule that they are today.
@@bigdaddykush1830 Not less cerebral. The business wasn't exposed to the extent it is today. They still protected it and presented it as a legit competitive sport. Today they fully acknowledge that it's all phony nonsense play fighting and embrace that.
Add to it that the legs are crossed over like a sniper’s cross-hair
I paused the video for a second, mind blown on that one 😂
27:35...yep...just when you thought it was safe...another Rey mysterio eye joke 😂😂😂
Guess you didnt see that coming either.
@@PSkyukido 🤦♂️ ...sigh...😂
Wrestlemania 20 one of the most underrated manias
One of the first wrastling silver vision VHSes I owned.
Absolutely loved your enthusiasm here! And its completely justified. The teams on display and the promos barked out by the legends on display is the kind of incredible OTT madness that you just dont get anymore. The Warriors promos were fecking fantastic. Bonkers and brilliant. Old school promos were so good to get the place and people pumped for whatever match it was.
No surprise WhatCulture is covering the 1990 Survivor Series. Seeing how we’re coming close to The Undertaker’s 30th anniversary with WWE. Looking back, it’s kinda hard to believe that Brother Love was The Undertaker’s original manager.
Simon said he didn't care what we voted for. He was doing this ppv because of the 30 year anniversary because it's a once in a lifetime moment.
Holy hell, Simon. I know I fanboy sometimes, but this quite possibly might be your best U&D videos you have ever made. You have such enthusiasm, such insight and such passion. It's honestly adorable and brilliant. You bring me so much joy and positivity and smiles. Your humor is brilliant. The world doesn't deserve you. You get a round of applause.
Simon Miller, the funniest wrestling TH-camr I have ever seen. Loving these Retro Ups and Downs.
This made me sad...because a ton of them are passed away..but made me happy cause it was my childhood beginnings of wrestling..thank you
Good Lord we need you to do more on reading Warrior promos
Suggestion: Armageddon 2008 (Jeff Hardy wins the WWE championship)
It is time for Royal Rumble 94' Undertake vs Yokozuna in a casket match!
Very cool. Nice to see a slate of wrestlers I actually grew up watching. Thanks for doing this!
Simon, your unmitigated enthusiasm and nostalgia for this bygone era of wrestling makes me smile, mainly because I feel the same way. I started watching pro wrestling regularly not long before SS’90. I remember the huge hype for the egg. Also, I liked Undertaker almost instantly, and he’s now my favorite of all time. I see many of your favorites (Martel, Dibiase, Tito) are mine as well.
This was the first PPV my parents let me watch. Otherwise we rented them from blockbuster. I still have the old titan VHS of this event somewhere in storage.
Your videos are so entertaining. Chuckled more than a few times.
As someone who lives in Canada and only recently discovered and became obsessed with 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown I can't express how happy I am you did the 30 second clock music.
Kudos on being such a fanboy that you not only excitedly find the first excuse you can to put on the repo-man mask but you also keep it on long after the actual segment that instigated it is well & truly ended...you have my congrats on your commitment to the bit!
1st TLC or SummerSlam. The ladder match between Hardyz, Dudley's and Edge and Christian is worth the entire show review. Cheers Simon.
I was 3 years old when the undertaker arrived at wwe and now im 33 years old and i got to say im truly blessed that this man is the GREATEST character wrestler ever in thr world today. Thank you undertaker for thr best matches ever.
Snap brother!!! 1987 a fine year
@@similarart1074 a great year indeed. Im blessed that i was alive when the undertaker first arrived in wwe
This is free on the network right now i had to watch it again last night after work b4 watching today
They should do survivor series like this again with the team names and final match at the end. Loved it
WCW Starrcade 1997. The pinnacle of WCW. Sting vs Hogan
OMFG 😂😭 That Ultimate Warrior promo, you so meticulously took apart, had me crying in laughter
i have re-listened to the ultimate warrior phonetic quote about 10 times in a row lol this is amazing
I started watching the WWF in 1989 so I get a huge nostalgia trip as well !! Great name for Rick Martel’s team as well, the Visionaries!! As Martel supposedly blinded Jake with his ‘ arrogance ‘ aftershave!! Brilliant play on words!!
I've now listened to the whole review and it is no word of a lie, my favourite review ever! Brilliant and so funny. I love this event for all its flaws and excellence. Take me back to 1990 please. The only changes I would make, are to make Ax healthy and give the Warrior a bit of a pounding, allow Bret to win, give all of them more drugs and allow Paul Roma to win the grand finale.
Mate. Have watched you for years now. You're enthusiasm, knowledge and showmanship are fucking sound.
You make me giggle. More please.
Just catching up with all these. Survivor Series 1990 is one of my favourite shows. I actually love Pipers commentary. I thought he was hilarious
Something I didn't get until much later in life, the Warriors team was the Ultimate Warrior, The Road Warriors, and the Modern Day Wartior.
I love you Simon! You are that wrestling friend I never had.
Love it when Simon says "if you know you know" and I bloody know yiew
The debut of the G O A T and living legend The Undertaker
When Simon read warriors promo and than said don’t do drugs, I absolutely died 💀😂 seriously tho kids, drugs are bad lmfaooo
We need a bad PPV next. It's always a laugh watching Simon review absolute dogshit 😂
Great series btw - I'm consistently entertained by these videos 👍
I really want him to cover Heroes of Wrestling because it's legitimately the worst wrestling show ever
So the 2019 hell in a cell? I think he alrrady did that lmao
@@kevinmoore2474 @Johnny Skyfire either of those two would work - as long as it is truly awful, like ECW December to Dismember '06 Simon did a few weeks ago 😂 I can't think of any specific ones, but there were some stinkers in 2003 under HHH's reign of terror
7:44 ...your straight dry reading of & reaction to the warriors' promo is one of the honestly funniest bits I've ever seen, lol.
I hope we can see Retro Ups and Downs for Wrestlemania 22 one day. It's one of my favs especially with Rey Mysterio winning the World Heavyweight Championship ignore the reign itself though 😅
So my suggestion is Wrestlemania 22
Watching this just reminds me The Million Dollar Man and Mr Perfect might be the best two wrestlers to never be WWF champions
Along with Owen Hart.
Agreed and you can’t use that “they didn’t need the title” people always say about guys like Jake the Snake and Roddy Piper. Perfect and The Million Dollar Man had gimmicks that called for them to be the champion.
I have literally watched this PPV like 100 times...glad this one was chosen!
Have you really? I love it too.
I think it's cool that your doing SS 1990 and the 1st TH-cam ad that plays is for undertakers 30th anniversary.
Me, getting the Sharpshooter pun years ago: *sometimes my genius is... it's almost frightening*
Simon needs to do the countdown clock tune waaaay more often, made my night
Man u have had me dying from laughing on this video!!! Especially the Warlord joke looking like Stone Cold juiced up on Bane venom!!!😂😂😂
WCW Nitro and WWF Raw 26th March 2001 - double ups and downs for a night no one expected
My friend Haku 😂 forgot about him swinging for Simon and nearly taking his head off
4:38 OMG!!!! WOW! Okay, I ummm...am appreciative of that pause!
I haven't laughed this hard at an UPs and DOWNS in awhile. I 💙 it.
The best part about he Gobbledy Gooker reveal was Roddy Piper laughing on commentary. Monsoon and Mean Gene were mad as hell and Roddy was acting like it was funniest thing he had ever seen.
The Warlord and Hercules are in my boy stable.
Andre the Giant and the Dynamite Kid both used to do the Tombstone piledriver. Undertaker wasn't the first. So the commentators calling it a tombstone isn't really weird
That's true 😏😼
I actually think Roddy Piper did just fine at this show. He did a 'mic-bump' when Undertaker came out. I remember that more than any of his spoken lines. LOL
“ look at the size of that ham hock!! “
Loved this survouir series
Now I knew what a Pallbearer was as a kid cus I just asked a lot of questions and asked my mom at a funeral who was carrying the casket. But Simon just blew my mind with the Hitman/Sharpshooter pun🤯
Undertaker andPaul Bearer? Bret HitMan hart: sharpshooter 🤯🤯🤯 never thought about that damn Simon I feel slow now lol
It's called a space bar.
@@distantandvague it’s called stfu
Undertaker and Paul Bearer I always understood. It's a little more obvious. But Hitman and Sharpshooter I did not get. As a kid I just thought that that's what the move was called
That hitman sharpshooter thing went over my head for about 45 secs really had to think on it 😂😂😂
Christ the warriors and mene gene all passed away god I feel old can remember watching this as a child great memories
Next Retro Lucha Underground Ultima Lucha (1). Still want to see his reaction to Pentagon vs Vampiro
The best thing about The Warrior was his promos! They were a weird type of accidental brilliance and will still get you today!
Seriously Simon, you are killing me over here with the way you say " Cocaine"😂😂😂😂10:35
One of the greatest characters in the history of the wwe Undertaker a legend & icon 30 yrs of Greatness thank u taker
I'm 34 started watching wrestling when I was 13 I never got the Hitman did the Sharpshooter until it was just explaining to me that's so good
Wow. all my life, I never put hitman with the sharpshooter. Well played
Simon... you are crazy 😜... love it bro. This shit is hilarious!
27:26- I’m not 100% certain that it’s true or not but I just saw another video talking about them and that rope situation. And they said that they both wanted the other to get out of the ring and then they would turn around and do one more celebration pose by themself so they can acted like they were the better wrestler and fans loved them more! Kinda funny but with both of their egos it makes perfect sense!!!
Duuuude. "Blown Up Stone Cold" is so accurate. 😂
Holy crap.... i am stupid. I just picked up on the “Hitman” /“Sharp Shooter” pun. All these years. I never made the connection 😂
Don't worry dude I just figured it out a couple weeks ago
@@jadziaezri2616 is wonder if this was the 2nd pun” used for a wrestler’s gimmick and finishing move. The first possibly being the Undertaker/Paul Bearer pun.
Maybe not. I think Sting/Scorpion deathlock wasn’t before both of these.
Love your shirt Simon
That Bret Hart/Sharpshooter line at the beginning actually blew my mind😲 I never really thought about it.
My favorite promo line about this SS....the Warrior, talking to Brother Love 'If anything comes out of that egg looking like YOU Brother Love, I WILL SCRAMBLE IT!!' Just makes me laugh soo much lol
Ultimate Warrior had the best promos, fight me
Also, this was the ONLY year there was a Match of Survival at the end of the night.
The 'drumstick' line from Piper re: Undertaker (sort of) makes sense in the context of it airing on Thanksgiving
Royal Rumble 1999 Mankind v The Rock in a I quit match would be fun to get Simons reaction that and the McMahon rumble win.
Warrior interviews are just the best lol
Please cover Wrestlemania 25 or 26. Those matches between Michaels and the Undertaker deserve the golden up!
Next suggestion:
WCW Bash at the Beach 2000
(Vince Russo pipebomb)
Finally! Something actually retro!
Wait. I’m 43 and have watched wrestling my whole life and NEVER put the pallbearer and Undertaker together 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️