I tend to do a "high yo-yo", i think its called. if i see it turning into a circle fight, i basically roll a tad bit so i get a bit of a higher angle on the enemy, and if they dont notice you, you might be able to get a drop on them, or even get completely behind them I noticed a lot of times, just chipping away a few hit points in a dogfight is enough to quickly make them unsure and break out of the circle, making them easier to hit Another way, if they're particularly hard to fight, is to try to fly over to friendly ares, like nearby vehicles and such to try to distract or let them or find friendlies to help you take down the other plane
reminds me of the good old BF3 days, when some clan buddies were constantly in dogfights and became absolute machines. awesome what you can achieve in the air!
@@SilkOCE the best time we've ever had. but now the dogfighting feels soulless. you two are doing great but the game doesn't reflect that feeling like it did in the older Bf games
The feeling isn't the same anymore because Bf3 was still a game with competitive support like Clan match Servers and Battlelog with platoons etc. But 2042 dogfights are very fun and and skill ceiling is also high trust me bro.
Oh man this like watching maverick vs iceman. Right away I’m just like oh man he’s good. The way he’s cutting those angels to take away shots where you just really don’t have a line on him and you’re forced to rely on hitting him as he’s passing you is insane because at that point when you’re so evenly matched in a dogfight it’s feels like it’s just guna be a battle do attrition. Another thing like you say at 1:26 before even seeing who wins or loses this engagement you can’t deny this is masterful maneuvering because for a sec you do get a line on him but he knows exactly how to take that away. Anyone that’s played jets in a battlefield game knows it’s not all about how much damage you can dish out our how many kills but just can you make life an absolute hell for rival pilots and ground forces. What a great vid very fun to watch the pros go at it!
I find that speed control and knowing locations of threats really helps. You do need to take risks sometimes but I don’t always go full throttle especially if I’m behind someone and in range to hit them. Full throttle to escape after a strafe or flare is wise though.
great vid. I really want to know if theres a turning speed like in bf4 cause now when i get into dogfights against a better player, its usually just circling around until eventually they somehow catch up to me. Its always manoeuvering but never OUTmanoeuvering
How can I see the damage amount after hitting enemy vehicle like in this video? When I shoot someone in another vehicle all I see is just the xp. Great video by the way!
Hey silk,you should make some videos flying apache/ka-52 with 127mms + TOW,it's a vehicle destroyer my man,best kit against all vics and with a very high skill ceiling due to tow and zunis being so slow in this game.
It's a fun vehicle but in some regions like OCE it's unusable because everyone and their mother uses Lis and are decent with the recoilless 😂 And there's ALWAYS that one guy waiting for their favorite streamer to get on so they can sit in a railtank and shoot them down
@@llJeezusll Just roll the heli sideways and fake your direction to dodge lis tvs,and against tor or you either fly really high and kill it or you fly low and get close to it
@@Elvy3358 trust we have no issues dodging 1 or 2 Lis missiles But you aint dodging 6 at a time Especially against some of the best Lis players in the game that dont have issues hitting nightbirds If a rail tank is bad yea usually you could just fly to the skybox and kill them. But occasionally there's people that will just pixel spawn camp (aim right where your aircraft spawns and wait with a timer and kill you as soon as you spawn in) Or just ramp up on a tiny hill allowing them to aim at the skybox
Can we get (how to get more kills with jet) specialty the soldiers in foot cause every time I crash ,, I didn’t find anyone one explain the breaks with jet 😅
I have encountered that guy yesterday 2 matches in a row. He was killing everyone. He's a good pilot but annoying af when he's in an enemy team xD (for 2 matches in a row). Good pilot tho
I've just been using the panther last couple of days and I'm getting pretty good at dogfighting other jets, taking out the odd Heli especially transports and also taking out ground vehicles. I'm still a while off being able to accurately track infantry though but the most fun for me is dogfights anyway
@ 5:48 the moment you decide to horizontally loop because when dogfighters use that vertical defense loop , you tend to lose control of the distance between you to if they know how to execute the vertical Yo yo s. Always screw me up 😂when I’m fighting someone good. So going horizontal was the good idea in the end !!
So now that this video came out I see Jets stalling out all over the place trying to figure out what you were doing there... They usually die immediately because a stationary jet is a dead jet.
Hey man, hope you can answer this, how you play with jets? i mean, wasd + mouse? wasd + keyboard arrows? idk, i play with both, arrows to turn better and mouse to aim but idk if this is the best option
Options> Controller or Mouse and Keyboard> Vehicles> scroll down until you see PILOT and just below there should be an option that says 3P Aircraft Camera Roll
Id love a video about dogfighting, ive learned loada about fighting jets of you but when you both know how to do the tightest turn possible i just seem to end up in in a loop with the other guy
He is playing with 3p cam on as we seen from his POV and thats a bad setting for dogfighting,Silk has so much better vision aganst him But that guy cleanly one of the best jet players its facts, but yes just cuz someone good in dogfight not means he is good against infantry and being efficient for the team
Silk are you moving your head around trying to orient yourself to the way the jet is or am I the only idiot who is disoriented by the flying when I play
wait, they added NO plane chase camera roll?, can you fly while looking behind? I flew when the game came out, and there was no option to disable plane chase camera roll, and I couldn't pitch up while looking behind.
Wtf impossible to turn these jets so fast... how you do that? Am i missing something? I am using mouse and kb but no way i can turn the jet face to face this fast
As a pc player I use controller for jets. I use mouse for infantry and heli. Mouse jet I found alot harder for the more continuous turns and pulls. Having to reset mouse position can mean death in dogfights.
He has mentioned using keyboard for ailerons. I use this method now along with binding afterburner to w key. It takes some getting used to, but can turn so much better than with mouse only.
Maybe the reason is you play with 3P camera on and thats make the gameplay 'slow' turn it off and you will feel your Jet so much'faster' because the better vision 6:11 with 3Pcam roll for me the gameplay seens so much slower than Silk's pov And of course Aircraft sensitve 100%
ive noticed the hit reg is fucked since the patch, ive hit birds with rockets and tanks, condors as well as the flying mav and had no rego half the time yet the shell hit them directly.
Jet gameplay in this game is really boring… not complaining about the players, they are really good, cause they take out wine from a rock here…. The jet movement in 2042 is horrible so they do the possible with the little they have to do.
Cuz 30 mm overheats too fast + it has a huge bullet (or shell or round, whatever) spread, and deviation while you pitch the jet. If you will combine it with delays in controls, you will struggle to hit anything, especially in headons.
RF deffo a great jet player but u come out as a better one as u said he won outta u cuz u bare played jets and all that when u guys 1v1 first time. He deffo knows how to trow the other pilot but the way u play w ur cam can ez beat it.
I think it is bs that f35 can hiver vs the su 57 like how is that fair? I know its realistic but screw that for a video game. I have a hard time fighting f35s in the sue.
Wish they would setup the aim assist in vehicles seperate to infy like in BFV. I barely run aim assist as infy but in jets you have no choice because of the mechanics.
Its not that bad killing infantry with controller, i thin its harder to find the best settings for it, you need the 100%aircraft sensitive and that makes the zoom aim difficult for us, but when used to it its become fine. But if you have time my last uploaded video here is a 36-0 on this map with the F35 and i also play with controller but its just 64Player conquest because PS4, sure i have to practice yet but i think we can play like PC players just need to put in really hard work The annoying thing in controller is cant Pitch and roll the same time correctly.
@@96tviktor yeah that all standard I use 70 slow down aa on the ground but at 100% 150% in the air that isn't enough and it is too annoying to turn it up and down everytime I want to fly or play infy.
GGs🤗
Good fights
gg for u and him, i love jet's but it's hard to control..
@@randyblackwell5016 ty, yes because there is a delay in jets elevators 😕
idk why did Silk always was so much tighter in turns? I mean you use the same mouse input or sensitivity or not?
@@SilkOCE watching u two brawling it out, motivates me to first time it with a friend of mine. Thanks for that!
Can we get a dogfight guide? Cuz everytime i get into a dog fight its just me and the enemy pilot flying in circles for like 10 min lol
It'll be part of my jet guide
@@SilkOCE ur close air support vids actually got me enjoying jets a whole lot more, its mad fun shooting infantry
Yeah same here. I need an anti-circle of death guide at this point!
Its all about controlling speed, and cornering.
I tend to do a "high yo-yo", i think its called. if i see it turning into a circle fight, i basically roll a tad bit so i get a bit of a higher angle on the enemy, and if they dont notice you, you might be able to get a drop on them, or even get completely behind them
I noticed a lot of times, just chipping away a few hit points in a dogfight is enough to quickly make them unsure and break out of the circle, making them easier to hit
Another way, if they're particularly hard to fight, is to try to fly over to friendly ares, like nearby vehicles and such to try to distract or let them or find friendlies to help you take down the other plane
reminds me of the good old BF3 days, when some clan buddies were constantly in dogfights and became absolute machines. awesome what you can achieve in the air!
I used to spend hours chilling in discord dogfighting my friends. Really fun times
@@SilkOCE the best time we've ever had. but now the dogfighting feels soulless. you two are doing great but the game doesn't reflect that feeling like it did in the older Bf games
The feeling isn't the same anymore because Bf3 was still a game with competitive support like Clan match Servers and Battlelog with platoons etc. But 2042 dogfights are very fun and and skill ceiling is also high trust me bro.
Spent 99% of my time on bf3 in an f18 or flanker, clan buddy showed me the way, and through extensive hours played, we became God's. Miss those days.
Dang, watching you two dog fight is pretty entertaining. Both of you are great pilots.
Remember this heli pilots , allways help ur jet pilot to kill the other jet ... keep the sky clean.
Oh man this like watching maverick vs iceman. Right away I’m just like oh man he’s good. The way he’s cutting those angels to take away shots where you just really don’t have a line on him and you’re forced to rely on hitting him as he’s passing you is insane because at that point when you’re so evenly matched in a dogfight it’s feels like it’s just guna be a battle do attrition. Another thing like you say at 1:26 before even seeing who wins or loses this engagement you can’t deny this is masterful maneuvering because for a sec you do get a line on him but he knows exactly how to take that away. Anyone that’s played jets in a battlefield game knows it’s not all about how much damage you can dish out our how many kills but just can you make life an absolute hell for rival pilots and ground forces. What a great vid very fun to watch the pros go at it!
That flying... too smooth, baby!
Finally a good DF video of BF2042 on youtube really fun video to watch.. LOVE IT.
Glad you enjoyed it's not THAT bad but at the same time bf4 is better in every way
I would love to see more of this. It's very entertaining 👍
Gg's bro love watching your pilot vids 🤙
I find that speed control and knowing locations of threats really helps. You do need to take risks sometimes but I don’t always go full throttle especially if I’m behind someone and in range to hit them. Full throttle to escape after a strafe or flare is wise though.
3:15 bf2042 dfs in a nutshell
Man’s got the dog in him
He's got the dog and the fight arguably
He is using the vertical to bleed his speed faster to hit his turn rate speed quicker. If hes already at the speed he stays horizontal.
“Jets feel so slow in this game.”
Amen
It’s like watching nascar. Always going in circles
Nice dogfight gg
Nice bro. The jets actual look pretty fun now.
blind spot switches- oldest trick int he book. Nice awareness from both.
great vid. I really want to know if theres a turning speed like in bf4 cause now when i get into dogfights against a better player, its usually just circling around until eventually they somehow catch up to me. Its always manoeuvering but never OUTmanoeuvering
Max speed always unless I feel like I'll hit the ground
How can I see the damage amount after hitting enemy vehicle like in this video? When I shoot someone in another vehicle all I see is just the xp. Great video by the way!
The way the jet understeers so much is wild to me compared good bf4 jets turn.
Hey silk,you should make some videos flying apache/ka-52 with 127mms + TOW,it's a vehicle destroyer my man,best kit against all vics and with a very high skill ceiling due to tow and zunis being so slow in this game.
It's a fun vehicle but in some regions like OCE it's unusable because everyone and their mother uses Lis and are decent with the recoilless 😂
And there's ALWAYS that one guy waiting for their favorite streamer to get on so they can sit in a railtank and shoot them down
@@llJeezusll Just roll the heli sideways and fake your direction to dodge lis tvs,and against tor or you either fly really high and kill it or you fly low and get close to it
@@Elvy3358 trust we have no issues dodging 1 or 2 Lis missiles
But you aint dodging 6 at a time
Especially against some of the best Lis players in the game that dont have issues hitting nightbirds
If a rail tank is bad yea usually you could just fly to the skybox and kill them. But occasionally there's people that will just pixel spawn camp (aim right where your aircraft spawns and wait with a timer and kill you as soon as you spawn in)
Or just ramp up on a tiny hill allowing them to aim at the skybox
Just gotta get insanely lucky to find a god lobby that'll let you get away with using that heli. Or just queue into EU 😂
You mean the BIG SCENE?
Man this awesome to wake up to ❤
I Played vs him this morning.. hes insane, 5 minutes into the game and he leads the Lobby in Kills and Assist as a Jet player 😅
Can we get (how to get more kills with jet) specialty the soldiers in foot cause every time I crash ,, I didn’t find anyone one explain the breaks with jet 😅
I have encountered that guy yesterday 2 matches in a row. He was killing everyone. He's a good pilot but annoying af when he's in an enemy team xD (for 2 matches in a row). Good pilot tho
I've just been using the panther last couple of days and I'm getting pretty good at dogfighting other jets, taking out the odd Heli especially transports and also taking out ground vehicles. I'm still a while off being able to accurately track infantry though but the most fun for me is dogfights anyway
All on computers, of course *yawns*
Makes me remember the coloroued jets in Wake Island dogfight map in bf2
I hope they use the, 315 speed control again next game
Hey Silk bro.. Wat is your pc configuration like.. Thank you brother.. Much Love
@ 5:48 the moment you decide to horizontally loop because when dogfighters use that vertical defense loop , you tend to lose control of the distance between you to if they know how to execute the vertical Yo yo s. Always screw me up 😂when I’m fighting someone good. So going horizontal was the good idea in the end !!
What platform do u use?..and what type of controller?
My buddy rec your channel to me. Love seeing the pilot perspective. I’m always Infantry 😅
Its that you, Maverick?
So now that this video came out I see Jets stalling out all over the place trying to figure out what you were doing there... They usually die immediately because a stationary jet is a dead jet.
You only stall if you fly to high in the air in this one.
How come Rf didnt use his mouse to maneuver ? is there a key bind to do that?
What an ejoyable vídeo,thanks for the great content
Hey man, hope you can answer this, how you play with jets? i mean, wasd + mouse? wasd + keyboard arrows? idk, i play with both, arrows to turn better and mouse to aim but idk if this is the best option
BIG SCENE
🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
I can’t get the dam things to respond quickly enough, so so sluggish
hold up this isn’t gemini899 the true GOAT 😏
I can play higher KPM dfing gemini than in a public game
Self repairing armor? Why DICE, why?
wait, how do you get jet movement like that? similar to your bf4 videos
It’s just how keyboard works man
Options> Controller or Mouse and Keyboard> Vehicles> scroll down until you see PILOT and just below there should be an option that says 3P Aircraft Camera Roll
Jet chase camera roll set to off in the settings
@@llJeezusll thanks appreciate it
@@SilkOCE thank you much appreciated
Whats the best speed turning radio on this game ?
Flying jet on M/K is so difficult
So how can I play this?? I’m trying to figure out how to make a 1v1 with f-35s only in portal and can’t figure it out
I am a simple man. I see "Dogfight", I instantly click on it >:) Nice fights btw, man!
Ayy zaio 🐐 not quite bf4 fights but still fun sometimes
@@SilkOCE much love to ur content, bro! Im always watching all of 'em ❤️❤️❤️
You mentioned "switches" a couple times. What do you mean?
SturdyWings remember him?
this is typically Asian server fights, i always lose jets just to challenge round about against enemy jets
Id love a video about dogfighting, ive learned loada about fighting jets of you but when you both know how to do the tightest turn possible i just seem to end up in in a loop with the other guy
"The CRAZIEST Pilot I've found in Battlefield 2042" - destroyed him like 20 times....
He is playing with 3p cam on as we seen from his POV and thats a bad setting for dogfighting,Silk has so much better vision aganst him
But that guy cleanly one of the best jet players its facts, but yes just cuz someone good in dogfight not means he is good against infantry and being efficient for the team
Silk are you moving your head around trying to orient yourself to the way the jet is or am I the only idiot who is disoriented by the flying when I play
I don't ever fly jets in this game are missiles banned in this or just not effective enough to bother with?
wait, they added NO plane chase camera roll?, can you fly while looking behind?
I flew when the game came out, and there was no option to disable plane chase camera roll, and I couldn't pitch up while looking behind.
still cant pitch while looking behind you
"Banned maneuver" aka not everyone is skilled enough to bridge the gap between expert and pro 😂
congratulations for your humility, i am a brazilian pilot
6:08 look at ping iDF_rf
Just say no to jets.
This is the goat 🐐
throttle down to cut sharper.
You're an insane pilot 🥵
@03:14 Nice 😁
never watch dog fight this intense, nicee
Both of you are fkin insane i really enjoy watching youre videos keep it up silk🫡
Wtf impossible to turn these jets so fast... how you do that? Am i missing something? I am using mouse and kb but no way i can turn the jet face to face this fast
As a pc player I use controller for jets. I use mouse for infantry and heli. Mouse jet I found alot harder for the more continuous turns and pulls. Having to reset mouse position can mean death in dogfights.
He has mentioned using keyboard for ailerons. I use this method now along with binding afterburner to w key. It takes some getting used to, but can turn so much better than with mouse only.
Maybe the reason is you play with 3P camera on and thats make the gameplay 'slow' turn it off and you will feel your Jet so much'faster' because the better vision
6:11 with 3Pcam roll for me the gameplay seens so much slower than Silk's pov
And of course Aircraft sensitve 100%
why do they ban moves in jets? if you can pull it off by all means lol
no wonder he lost... dude was listening to drake
People ban specific manuevers in dogfights? Sounds like they just aren’t good enough to be able to counter it
He had 400ms+ ping!
What's the experience code?
Not sure, the servers are called 1on1 and pw is DOGFIGHT
** ACE **
ive noticed the hit reg is fucked since the patch, ive hit birds with rockets and tanks, condors as well as the flying mav and had no rego half the time yet the shell hit them directly.
3:15
StallWars
Yo Silk, you should learn DCS ;)
Yo should try to 2 v 1 Gemini899 , but I bet you wouldnt take that challenge.
G-force? Nah.
yea i hardly consider this a dog fight , more like watching hotwheeels loops lol
And without cheats. Hahaha haven't seen the video yet but I had to say that XD
No cheats ofc!
I hope jet rework bring speed control back!
I just want half decent jet mechanics. I miss BF4 😢
I wish we could get a wingman
Bloody beauty m88
Stewie2k Scared me there
Jet gameplay in this game is really boring… not complaining about the players, they are really good, cause they take out wine from a rock here…. The jet movement in 2042 is horrible so they do the possible with the little they have to do.
You should play ace combat 6
Why 25mm and not 30?
Cuz 30 mm overheats too fast + it has a huge bullet (or shell or round, whatever) spread, and deviation while you pitch the jet. If you will combine it with delays in controls, you will struggle to hit anything, especially in headons.
@@SnickersDF Thank you, very helpful!
Was he even trying to hit you? Doesn’t look like it
The only thing is, this can’t be done on console.
U R the greatest 👌😜🏆🙏✊
RF deffo a great jet player but u come out as a better one as u said he won outta u cuz u bare played jets and all that when u guys 1v1 first time. He deffo knows how to trow the other pilot but the way u play w ur cam can ez beat it.
Nah it's not easy for me at all against Rf and he definitely knows a lot about 2042 jets that I dont
Have you played df with Rf? If you think it's easy play with him. XD I played with him and he's a beast.
@@SilkOCE Flab slabber here , I'd buy this Battlefield game just to dogfight this Rf dude :D
😅 oh yes.. I met this colleague on the Aircraft Fight Portal ... Years like Maveric in TOP GUN, 😎 sicarios dogfighter
I think it is bs that f35 can hiver vs the su 57 like how is that fair? I know its realistic but screw that for a video game. I have a hard time fighting f35s in the sue.
good dfs
Wish they would setup the aim assist in vehicles seperate to infy like in BFV. I barely run aim assist as infy but in jets you have no choice because of the mechanics.
Its not that bad killing infantry with controller, i thin its harder to find the best settings for it, you need the 100%aircraft sensitive and that makes the zoom aim difficult for us, but when used to it its become fine. But if you have time my last uploaded video here is a 36-0 on this map with the F35 and i also play with controller but its just 64Player conquest because PS4, sure i have to practice yet but i think we can play like PC players just need to put in really hard work
The annoying thing in controller is cant Pitch and roll the same time correctly.
@@96tviktor yeah that all standard I use 70 slow down aa on the ground but at 100% 150% in the air that isn't enough and it is too annoying to turn it up and down everytime I want to fly or play infy.
Do u ever live stream
Yeah on twitch a few times a week
@@SilkOCE ill have to switch over hop in for a few streams bro lol
Too bad that the F-35 is a turkey irl. a horrible dogfighter...
Jesus 240fps.. I get 90😭