"Say what you will about John Kramer, but the guy never put an objectively innocent child in a contraption." I love the verbal dancing you do to sidestep Saw II where Jigsaw put the detective's kid in the game.
Yeah that is pretty fucked up man. Had anything happened to Hoffman before the events of him freeing her knowing he had her locked up somewhere she would never of been found
Well yes but that was why he put Amanda in the trial too. She was literally there to protect the child and make sure that even if everyone else died, he survived.
@@ragabashmoon1551 still they abducted a innocent kid man. I love Jigsaw and those Saw movies so much but that whole statement talk they quote saying like Jigsaw never killed anybody is bullshit. He put poison in a guy and flammable substance on a dude yeah he died by his own hand by not getting the antidote out the safe in time and setting the candle on himself but had he died by being poisoned to death that would of been straight up murder man. That is like me stabbing someone and saying here you go here are the tools to save your life but they are in the next room you just have to make it in time. He should have been going after more peados and beyond evil people and shit like the child killer in Jigsaw and the fat rapist guy in Saw lV they were truly deserving of their fates. Sometimes he put actual innocents in harms way and would contest which one of them somebody would have to kill that is fucked
I completely agree that Doctor Sleep is given short shrift. Flanagan does an amazing job blending Kubrick's film and King's novels, righting many of Kubrick's wrongs and providing us with a terrifying performance by Rebecca Ferguson as Rose the Hat, who is undoubtedly one of King's best villains.
I LOVE Doctor Sleep. It's a great stand-alone movie as well. You can definitely enjoy it even if you haven't seen The Shining. Rose the Hat is formidable because she is so freakin' charismatic.
Doctor Sleep really doesn't get it's do. The movie was done very well. Writing, directing and acting were top notch. Nostalgia is currently a cash grab for Hollywood. More often then not, it's done badly. The studios exploit our fondness for "better times". However, Doctor Sleep does nostalgia right. Combining Past and present to create a decent new story.
0:36 Don’t Breathe 1:35 You’re Next 2:32 Hellbound Hellraiser II 3:25 I Saw the Devil 4:29 From Dusk Till Dawn 5:17 The Woman 6:13 No One Lives 7:06 Deep Rising 7:58 Doctor Sleep 9:04 Saw X
The Crow isn't supposed to be 'something worse'. He's the protagonist, the good guy. If badguys getting killed by the goodguy was all it took we could put piles of movies on the list.
I Saw the Devil is a slept-on masterpiece. The emotion in that movie still gets me just remembering it. I felt so bad for him losing everything in the pursuit of vengeance.
Couldn't agree more. Been saying this for 12 years. Honestly glad it didn't blow up too much though because if it did America would do a trash remake like they did with Old Boy.
~~High Tension was among my top for awhile.* Unrated Subtitled. I don't know French but I do know I couldn't watch English dub,an entire element was missing w/his voice alone. Splinter came close as did Silent Hill w/Christabella's death definitely among most deserved&best. Soon after I was done&no longer had the patience for the dumpster fires Hollywood was determined to repeatedly pump out. Especially those w/potential to be good or even awesome had they put half the effort into them as they did the trailers tailored (including scenes already cut) To suck in&get as much money they could as fast as they can? I'd already been spending half my time/more indulging in foreign anyway. Seriously, the shit they don't hesitate to put out then&now still could've had their doors closed for good,whether they liked it or not,long ago&would've had they still been privately owned? ~~I may of been frustrated w/them yet it was still fortunate for me. Otherwise, who know how long it would've been,if at all, seeing I Saw the Devil? Added bonus being it happened to star the first two favorite Asian actors of mine since Bruce Lee. Which they established prior w/Old Boy&A Bittersweet LIfe. Nor find it a choice just naturally happens as High Tension simply moved off to the side. It may have even surpassed The Thing&The Hitcher ('86&only one as far as I'm concerned w/Hauer's John Ryder still one of the more tense character introductions) ~~Worthy Horror from the big studios happens but rarely. While rarely disappointed w/foreign or independent. Chances are they're some/one or two that'll be waste of time? But haven't yet over half way through IFC's collection&handful I found were worth joining the others. Sorry, I could've just agreed but sparked the situation around it&Hollywood's shit I had to vent. I apologize again&peace. *Example of one where some don't realize or possibly even grasp the impact audible can actually have. Quality speakers&sound, this one you can almost feel the scene w/Mom&the one w/Jimmy at the gas station, forget about it. Still cringe&wince now. Perfect example though is when I introduced my younger brother to The Exorcist. My 5 Infinity speaker surround was already complete, what blew me away is it wouldn't of mattered if I'd seen it 100x. Because that was the first time I truly experienced discovering chills I never knew before. True surround is only way to go, mine at the comes down to deciding between the Sony receiver again,heart of it some 20yrs, or the Denon? Meanwhile I'll see&have seen kids say The Exorcist isn't all that after watching it on some 10" laptop w/cheap ass head phones??? SORRY BUT FEEL LIL BETTER 😎
Dude lost his humanity in the pursuit of vengeance. Even though he won in the end, I don't think he did. I wonder if given a chance, if the main character - the good guy - would do it the same way again.
I feel like Hellraiser did this better with Frank. He was a ruthless, twisted piece of work who thought he'd all but gotten away with everything, & then Pinhead turned up!
Tales from the crypt kind of did this quite often on the show and in the comics. One episode involves a group of vampires that adopt a kid and go to hunt him only for the boy to turn out to be a werewolf and rips out the vampires’ throats. There was also an episode where two zombies break up and the woman hook up with a random guy, they weren’t going to kill home or anything, but turns out the dude is a vampire.
What about the girl who gets kidnaped by her egyptology professor and her boyfriend to be killed by an angry mummy who was missing his bride, only for her to pretent to be that bride, seduce the mummy and manipulated him to kill the professor and her boyfriend and mummify them for extra credits?
Reminds me of a Stephen King short story, I forget the book's name tho. It basically starts with the protagonist, a man down on his luck who gets paid to steal kids and hand them over to a trafficking ring. He maintains in his head that he's a good guy and as soon as he makes money to pay off his debt he will make up for all the harm he caused. So he's in his car now with a drugged boy driving to the delivery point when the kid wakes up (way before the dosage would allow him too) and starts attacking the kidnapper vicously, biting and scratching. He's also screaming that when his grandfather finds the guy he will kill him. Eventually the protagonist overpowers the kid (with difficulty) and administers another dosage of the drug. He marvels at the kid's strength and his own injuries while also being taken aback by the size of the boy's teeth which seemed quite large and sharp, almost like fangs. He then suddenly hears something fluttering in the wind and a heavy thump on the roof of the car. A hand with impossible large pointy nails breaks through the window. Sorry for the long synopsis lol.
Doctor Sleep is one of my favourite films. In general revenge horror is amazingly satisfying to me...I just love it when the victim turns out to be far, far crazier than the bad guy...
8:36 I love Mike Flanagan’s Doctor Sleep. I feel it is a much better sequel than how King portrayed it the book. It was very clever for Flanagan to decide to film it as a sequel to Kubrick’s film as opposed to a direct adaptation of the book. The climax at the hotel was much more satisfying than how King had to end the book considering that he destroyed the Hotel in the Shining.
@@benniepottsmy wife and I watched this movie shortly after our daughter was born... we had to pause the movie and collect ourselves during that scene, and realized that we could no longer watch media with children suffering.
The Book has the Foundation of the Overlook instead of the Overlook. I like the 'contaminated' vapor and the way Danny released the Overlook Ghouls on Rose the Hat in the book. It was a nice that the sequel played off the continuity of "The Shining" but the book is a sequel to the original book. (Original "The Shining" Jack Torrance redeemed himself-Red's trek to save Danny the Overlook wasn't a fool's errand, Mentored a young Danny as a LIVE human - and fleshed out a lot of detail that wasn't really provided in the sequel.) Both were enjoyable movies. I liked Dr. Sleep over The Shining. Much improved.
Dr sleep was a god awful movie that put me to sleep. It should have just been called ambien the movie fearing a pointless main bad girl who does nothing scary, nothing intimidating, nothing but walk around in a dumb hat and breath steam. lol. That’s not good.
I love it when this trope happens. The Villain defeats the Hero, but then the Hero says something like, "you don't understand. I wasn't trying to stop you/defeat you, I was trying to save you" or "I was trying to stop something worse". It's a nice twist on when the Hero defeats a Villain, only to find out the Villain had very real reasons for their actions/was trying to stop the Hero from suffering a fate worse than death.
Warcraft 3, amusingly, uses this trope: The Death Guardian was trying to stop Arthas from claiming Frostmourne because it knew what was going to happen. "No... trying to save you... from It." *dies*@@Diligent-Witch
Really? My friend you gotta watch more movies. Nothing against the actress playing her but holy crap baskets that movie and rose the hat were some of the most pointless crap ever put to film. lol.
@@Jrseydevil and the story of the jersey devil is such a riveting story....I've seen tons of films my dude and Rose the Hat is a definite stand out. But that's just my opinion, man🤷♂️
@@-xxnegusxx-3511 oh I never said it was. lol. And you can like what you want man you’re your own person. I’m just saying there are way better especially female villains then rose the hat. To me she was just a cookie cutter baddie you know? Like even her motivation wasn’t anything ground breaking or revolutionary it was just to be more powerful. I think the actress did a fine job with what she was given to work with but to me the hat was more intimidating and intresting then rose. lol.
I could be wrong,but I would add the blind gallery owner Hudson from Get Out to this list. He purchases Chris so that he can see again,but puts himself in the hands of Dean Armitage,who saws his head open before realizing that his son,Jeremy,did not show up with Chris,who had escaped. Chris attacks Dean,and Hudson of course is probably in a coma or dead even before the fire.
Technically Halloween VI had this aspect as well. Dr. Wynn thought he could use and control The Shape but in the end The Shape ended up using him and the cult and brutally killing them off. Blade 2 had this with the vampires being picked off by the reapers. There's also an episode of Masters of Horror called Pick Me Up where one serial killer that kills hitchhikers ends up picking up a hitchhiking serial killer that kills people that pick him up and let's just say the ending upends everything.
Oh, man, I *_love_* Pick Me Up! I love most of the 'Masters of Horror' episodes, with _very_ few exceptions (...looking at _you,_ Deer Woman...)! Cigarette Burns, Fair-Haired Child, Homecoming, Jenifer, Imprint...ALL good! ☺ The ever-delightful Fairuza Balk alone makes 'Pick Me Up' worth a look, but how often do we see _serial killers_ with completely opposed Modi Operandi having a turf war? And Walker and Wheeler are so _oddly civil_ with each other in most of the scenes where they interact with each other, like it's all just a "May the best man win" sport between the two, at least until Stacia plays to their egos and pits them against each other for keeps. And just when the ambulance picks them all up and it looks like poor Stacia's going to live to see another day after all...yeah, we know what happens next. It would be nice if 'Masters of Horror' made like 'The Outer Limits' and came back from the dead for another run, wouldn't it?
I would have included Nightbreed. The "Bad Guy" is the psychiatrist who is a serial killer who sets up Aaron Boone to believing he is the killer resulting in Boones death by cop. This only propels Boone to becoming a Nightbreed, a species of human dating from Biblical times made up of fantastical people and creatures. The "Doctor" is eventually killed by the "Breed" after he lures the police out to kill them all. The corrupt Sheriff also dies with the "Breed" having to escape and go back into hiding. A real hidden gem of a film by Clive Barker. I would also change Hellraiser II in your list for Hellraiser. The main protagonist is not the Cenobites but the killer lover who slowly comes back to life by killing. He is eventually stopped by Pinhead (The Priest) in the climax as he had tried to escape from the Puzzle Box and the Cenobites tortures.
The actress who plays Cecilia in Saw X absolutely nailed that role. If she would have been played by almost anyone else it would have just been a cheesy plot twist, but man is that character brilliantly despicable. The only other character that’s arguably more evil than Jigsaw in the franchise is Xavier from Saw 2, that guy knocked it out of the park as well, super underrated villain.
100% agree. Everyone involved did an amazing job on Saw X (not least Tobin Bell himself), not since the first Kingsman have I had my expectations of how terrible a movie is going to be so completely subverted. The only criticism I had is that the ending is very unsatisfactory: either Cecilia survives, which nobody watching wanted to happen, or she dies because the poison gas never leaves the room, in which case the trap was inescapable which goes against Kramer's entire ethos (of course, it could be argued that she alone was evil enough to deserve an inescapable trap, but Kramer didn't know she'd involve the Mexican kid when he set it, so the point stands). In any case, great movie, I'm looking forward to rewatching it soon.
I remember being very pleasantly surprised by how good it was when I saw it in the cinema, Flanagan did a great job of marrying King's original vision with Kubrick's iconic visuals in a way I never would have thought possible. I definitely need to revisit that movie soon...
Brilliant. I've seen some of these. And there are some I've never heard of. Hmmm, one you've missed is Jurassic Park where the raptors have cornered the humans and are playing with them before they attack, the tyrannosaur, who is a man killer, not a pet, stomps in and kills the raptors. This fits your theme of a villain killed by a bigger monster. BTW, the raptors are called velociraptors in the film. The writer heard that velociraptors had a body 6' long so he showed them with a torso 6' long. No, body meant including the tail length. But by the time the film came out a new fossil, the utahraptor was found (where it's name implies) and it was the size of the raptors in the film.
Buried Alive was my favorite revenge movie. Kind man was poisoned by his wife who was having an affair with her doctor. They planned to kill her husband and collect the insurance money. Turns out she didn't give him enough poison so he work up in his coffin and dug his way out. When found out what happened to him, he trapped his wife and her lover and released them into a death maze that he built for revenge. The movie's ending was by far my favorite part.
For that movie The Woman it seems like you missed the fact that she wasn't his first victim. When he first captures her the pen he puts her in already had a woman in it that he had tortured to insanity. I really love the No One Lives movie, it's so good. The thing I remember most about Deep Rising is how stupid their guns were. I would love to se Brandon Herrera or Zack Hazard go on a rant about those ridiculous pieces of shit.
@@JnEricsonx Yeah I know, they used Calico M955s as the base for them, and they could have just used them as a neat, futuristic looking submachine gun that functions pretty decently. Instead they hot-glued a bunch of ridiculous crap onto them to make them seem "sci-fi" for no reason. They look idiotic and the modifications mean those weapons wouldn't even be able to function with that design. This has pissed me off since I first saw that movie when I was ten.
I think that movie maybe doesn't fit the criteria, because the villains of the movie know what is in store for them, that there is something much worse than them just waiting to get out. It's the protagonists who find out that the villains are arguably the lesser of two evils.
While not considered a 100% horror movie I'd give an honorary mention to Metalocalypse: Army of the Doomstar for the demise of the Tribunal and Mr. Salacia.
There was a great episode of 'Tales from the Crypt' called "The Secret" with vampires who adopt a kid and fatten him up just to hunt and eat him later. When they finally release the kid and try to hunt him down he turns into a werewolf, kills them, and then takes their money, house, and butler. Loved that episode....
I do feel like 10 Cloverfield Lane belongs here. Yeah, some people might have predicted based on the movie's name, but as a movie in itself, John Goodman was the primary villain. I remember watching in theaters and thinking "Oh, I guess the naming was actually just a coincidence after all." Truly one of the best 'this brings a smile to my face and I'm glad this exists' moments.
John Kramer put that cops kid in that house filled with neurotoxin in the second movie. A house that was filled with convicts who had been set up and done time because of that cops corruption. Then he locked him in a claustorphobic safe, while awake. I think that was actually worse than what the fake doctor did.
The kid was protected by Amanda. That's just one of the tests she's given, as you see the series progress she wants to break the rules but John keeps testing her to keep her in check. Also, the kid could have been sedated for most of that time while in the safe and woke up just before the timer went off to unlock it. He doesn't make his traps unsurvivable - that would be Amanda and Hoffman. I love the twists in that series, as when you think it's predictable, a new twist comes from out of nowhere even if the twists are not as unexpected. The series as a whole is brilliant.
@chrishouk5796 I mean, how was she supposed to protect him from the drug dealer? She seemed pretty terrified of him, Amanda didn't have a gun, she could try to influence things and obviously, she knew it was a game but the kid was still suffering and dying from the neurotoxin and he had no idea that she was with Jigsaw, so that fact wouldn't affect the terror or pain he felt as he was dying from the poisoned air. Plus, you know, he's watching all these people die around him. He's a kid, it's traumatizing.
Let's be honest here, by the time Rose the Hat managed to take Danny down, Danny and co. had been hunting her crew for a while and she was the last survivor. The heroes used their powers and their guns to great effect againstvthe monsters.The hunters became the hunted very quickly when they targeted the guy who spent his lifetime hunting monsters and locking them in psychic boxes in his mind. The fights were generally so one-sided that I almost felt sorry for the psychic vampires. Almost. Definitely an underrated movie in my opinion. In a way, it is very cathartic due to how the story plays out
I'm normally pretty critical of movie adaptations of books, but Dr. Sleep did a damn good job. They stayed very faithful to the source material except for the ending which was an acceptable change to the original climax
And the scene where Rose goes into Abra's mind and tries to gain information. In the book how Abra managed to kick Rose's ass was spectacular....I was disappointed that the movie didn't show that.
@Rylosalex yeah, that's a good point. It would've been really cool to see it the way it was described in the book, but they still stayed pretty close with Rose getting her hand caught in the drawer and what not. Still would've been cool to see a Viking Abra riding a stallion though lol
@@thryi Yeah, when my little brother and I went to go see the movie, I was super stoked when the scene was coming up. I whispered to my brother "This part is sooo awesome!!" Of course, I was disappointed, but I described what happened in the book, and he thought it sounded awesome as well. Still, the way that Abra creature scared the living crap out of Rose was cool and the way Danny defeated her was freaking awesome!!
Because nothing bad happened to the janitor. lol. I mean maybe the owner of Willy’s could have been on there but the janitor beat the breaks off everyone and won. lol.
@@Jrseydevil That's kinda the point... the list is about horror villains, in this case Willy's gang, encountering something worse, in this case the Janitor, who in a twist starts offing the villains.
@@MidBoss666 oh I miss understood what you were saying. I thought you meant that the janitor got more then he bargained for. lol. But yes. I 100% agree that Willy’s wonderland should have made the list. Such an underrated movie
It doesn't exactly look like my kinda film, but No One Lives sounds so much like an idea I had "serial/spree killers accidentally catch a worse killer", that I want to see how it plays out.
I'm not big into horror movies, yet I've seen half of these. Deep Rising was my favorite by far of the ones I've seen. You can see how the director did The Mummy afterward .
The reason Don't Breathe had that crazy left turn in the third act is because that was how far the writers got before they realized that he was actually the good guy in the story.
Revenge movies are my favourite guilty pleasure, so I agree completely! Although I will say that, necessary to the storyline as it is, I find the rape scene in LHOTT extremely difficult to watch to this day...
The original Tales From The Hood had a bunch of stories in it that fits this subject plus the over arching plot of 3 drug dealers thinking they were getting some product from a funeral home meanwhile you find out they are already dead and are now in hell as the old funeral home owner turns into the devil.
@@andymackie8283 I already got a few examples. JAWS, Silence of the Lambs, and somehow even Alien one time. I also once had like one instance for each where somebody somehow questioned if the Evil Dead and Final Destination are actually horror which was like absolutely ridiculous
I really hate that the female lead was able to get rewarded & escaped in “Don’t Breathe.” She’s a thief and her male companions deserved their fates but she survived?
Have you guys ever done PERSONAL favorite horror movies lists? There’s enough members of the What Culture team that there’s probably a lot of variety. Something to consider for the future? Please? 😊
i love a good protagonist turns out to be ten times more vicious then the villains twist you're next is a slasher masterpiece i love how Erin just home alone's all the killers so creatively
8:02 is so damn true. I love The Shining and I thought Dr No Sleep was a fantastic sequel. Definitely felt more like a thriller than horror movie than it's predecessor but it worked damn well.
Never a movie, but a short story (by Manly Wade Wellman) and a Twilight Zone segment, but "The Devil is Not Mocked" definitely fits the category otherwise. A group of WWII German soldiers tries to set up a headquarters at an old castle in Transylvania...
Made into a good movie called "The Keep" (1983) with Jorgen Prochnow, Gabriel Byrne and Ian McKellen. Directed by Michael Mann. Music by Tangerine Dream.
“Blood Red Sky” deals with this trope via an emotional and dramatic way that swept me off my feet! Ash going nuts in Evil Dead 2, by Sam Raimi, definitely deserves a spot on this list lol 😂. B.R.U.C.E. rising up and destroying his opponent after the daughter put on the gloves in Megan is a good one.
The Doctor Sleep movie is one instance where a movie blew the book out of the water. Hated the novel cause of the bloat, but Flanagans take cut out all the bs and make the story hit harder.
Agree. There are very few cases where SK movies are better than the book - and this is one of them. I slogged through the book - and loved loved loved the movie.
@@KSchorrWriter It's probably the only time it's happened with one of his novels IMO! We've gotten a decent amount of solid movies turned out of his more meh novellas at this point, but I can't think of another time he actually beat the novel, hell of a writer!
I must confess I never read the book, but absolutely loved the movie! As an equal parts Kubrick and King fan I was very impressed by how Flanagan managed to simultaneously respect both heritages
Yeah, the easy defeat of Pinhead pretty much ended my interest in the movies. You can’t just drop a major player like that without consequence. Sort of like when Terminator Dark Fate took John Conner out in the first few minutes, no build up or justification. Arnold just walked up, shot him, and walked away. This was perhaps the worst writing decision I could even imagine for the Terminator series. You can’t take the literal lynchpin of the entire story and throw them away like garbage just to satisfy the desire to put a girl in his place.
In your comments about Deep rising, you guys said that if it wasn't for Canton stopping the cruise ship then the giant sea creature never would have attacked. Well that's not true. The creature was already on its way to attacking the cruise ship, and then when it slowed down enough for it to catch up is when it pierced the hull and started its smorgasbord.
Yeah Canton didnt stop the cruise ship, the mercenary team specifically comments that Canton wasnt suppose to stop the ship (or kill everyone on board). It was the monster that did this.
Saw "you're next" in cinema, the whole room was crying from laughter. It is a bit silly but pnce you get the amount of people laughing there is no stoping.
Saw X: "He never put an objectively innocent child in one of his traps." Yes he did, in the first one. A much younger child actually. For something that his father was THINKING about doing.
Okay, that first one is crap. Yes, our main trio ARE robbers and normally that would make them the villains, but considering what the Old Man does in his basement and what he tries to do to Rocky down there, he's 100% the villain. Because heroes don't use semen turkey basters.
Didn’t john Kramer put the son of man who was denied insurance in saw 5 in a trap and that son killed the insurance man not to mention donnie wahlberg’s son in saw 2 was in a trap and innocent. Sure both are teen boys but they also don’t need to see such violence
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"Say what you will about John Kramer, but the guy never put an objectively innocent child in a contraption." I love the verbal dancing you do to sidestep Saw II where Jigsaw put the detective's kid in the game.
Wasn’t slow Jeff’s daughter in saw 3 part of his game as well locked up in a room ?
Yeah that is pretty fucked up man. Had anything happened to Hoffman before the events of him freeing her knowing he had her locked up somewhere she would never of been found
Well yes but that was why he put Amanda in the trial too. She was literally there to protect the child and make sure that even if everyone else died, he survived.
@@ragabashmoon1551 still they abducted a innocent kid man. I love Jigsaw and those Saw movies so much but that whole statement talk they quote saying like Jigsaw never killed anybody is bullshit. He put poison in a guy and flammable substance on a dude yeah he died by his own hand by not getting the antidote out the safe in time and setting the candle on himself but had he died by being poisoned to death that would of been straight up murder man. That is like me stabbing someone and saying here you go here are the tools to save your life but they are in the next room you just have to make it in time. He should have been going after more peados and beyond evil people and shit like the child killer in Jigsaw and the fat rapist guy in Saw lV they were truly deserving of their fates. Sometimes he put actual innocents in harms way and would contest which one of them somebody would have to kill that is fucked
@@ragabashmoon1551which doesn't make the statement any less inaccurate.
I completely agree that Doctor Sleep is given short shrift. Flanagan does an amazing job blending Kubrick's film and King's novels, righting many of Kubrick's wrongs and providing us with a terrifying performance by Rebecca Ferguson as Rose the Hat, who is undoubtedly one of King's best villains.
I LOVE Doctor Sleep. It's a great stand-alone movie as well. You can definitely enjoy it even if you haven't seen The Shining. Rose the Hat is formidable because she is so freakin' charismatic.
Doctor Sleep really doesn't get it's do. The movie was done very well. Writing, directing and acting were top notch. Nostalgia is currently a cash grab for Hollywood. More often then not, it's done badly. The studios exploit our fondness for "better times". However, Doctor Sleep does nostalgia right. Combining Past and present to create a decent new story.
It’s an absolute GEM
Agreed, Fantastic movie!!
Well said!
0:36 Don’t Breathe
1:35 You’re Next
2:32 Hellbound Hellraiser II
3:25 I Saw the Devil
4:29 From Dusk Till Dawn
5:17 The Woman
6:13 No One Lives
7:06 Deep Rising
7:58 Doctor Sleep
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Thank you!
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Thank you so. I skipped a lot that I didn't care about. Appreciate you, op.
Thank you for the list because no hate but the commentators voice annoys the hell outta me!
Just in case you're too lazy to watch the video
Pretty much all the villains, "The Crow". It even takes place around Halloween!
"Don't move or you're dead!"
"Well, I say I'm dead, and I move."
The death of Brandon Lee gives that line an interesting additional meaning.
"Victims .. aren't we all!"
“It can't rain all the time.”
"This is the really real world..."
The Crow isn't supposed to be 'something worse'. He's the protagonist, the good guy. If badguys getting killed by the goodguy was all it took we could put piles of movies on the list.
I Saw the Devil is a slept-on masterpiece. The emotion in that movie still gets me just remembering it. I felt so bad for him losing everything in the pursuit of vengeance.
Couldn't agree more. Been saying this for 12 years. Honestly glad it didn't blow up too much though because if it did America would do a trash remake like they did with Old Boy.
~~High Tension was among my top for awhile.* Unrated Subtitled. I don't know French but I do know I couldn't watch English dub,an entire element was missing w/his voice alone. Splinter came close as did Silent Hill w/Christabella's death definitely among most deserved&best. Soon after I was done&no longer had the patience for the dumpster fires Hollywood was determined to repeatedly pump out. Especially those w/potential to be good or even awesome had they put half the effort into them as they did the trailers tailored (including scenes already cut) To suck in&get as much money they could as fast as they can? I'd already been spending half my time/more indulging in foreign anyway. Seriously, the shit they don't hesitate to put out then&now still could've had their doors closed for good,whether they liked it or not,long ago&would've had they still been privately owned?
~~I may of been frustrated w/them yet it was still fortunate for me. Otherwise, who know how long it would've been,if at all, seeing I Saw the Devil? Added bonus being it happened to star the first two favorite Asian actors of mine since Bruce Lee. Which they established prior w/Old Boy&A Bittersweet LIfe. Nor find it a choice just naturally happens as High Tension simply moved off to the side. It may have even surpassed The Thing&The Hitcher ('86&only one as far as I'm concerned w/Hauer's John Ryder still one of the more tense character introductions)
~~Worthy Horror from the big studios happens but rarely. While rarely disappointed w/foreign or independent. Chances are they're some/one or two that'll be waste of time? But haven't yet over half way through IFC's collection&handful I found were worth joining the others. Sorry, I could've just agreed but sparked the situation around it&Hollywood's shit I had to vent. I apologize again&peace.
*Example of one where some don't realize or possibly even grasp the impact audible can actually have. Quality speakers&sound, this one you can almost feel the scene w/Mom&the one w/Jimmy at the gas station, forget about it. Still cringe&wince now.
Perfect example though is when I introduced my younger brother to The Exorcist. My 5 Infinity speaker surround was already complete, what blew me away is it wouldn't of mattered if I'd seen it 100x. Because that was the first time I truly experienced discovering chills I never knew before. True surround is only way to go, mine at the comes down to deciding between the Sony receiver again,heart of it some 20yrs, or the Denon? Meanwhile I'll see&have seen kids say The Exorcist isn't all that after watching it on some 10" laptop w/cheap ass head phones??? SORRY BUT FEEL LIL BETTER 😎
Dude lost his humanity in the pursuit of vengeance. Even though he won in the end, I don't think he did. I wonder if given a chance, if the main character - the good guy - would do it the same way again.
@@Corman7088somehow I enjoyed reading all that. I'm not big on long comments usually
Yes!!! I feel like it doesn't get recommended enough. Great film all the way around!
I feel like Hellraiser did this better with Frank. He was a ruthless, twisted piece of work who thought he'd all but gotten away with everything, & then Pinhead turned up!
Especially since the doctor and the original Cenobites had the same boss.
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True and "Jesus Wept" is a iconic line
Tales from the crypt kind of did this quite often on the show and in the comics. One episode involves a group of vampires that adopt a kid and go to hunt him only for the boy to turn out to be a werewolf and rips out the vampires’ throats.
There was also an episode where two zombies break up and the woman hook up with a random guy, they weren’t going to kill home or anything, but turns out the dude is a vampire.
What about the girl who gets kidnaped by her egyptology professor and her boyfriend to be killed by an angry mummy who was missing his bride, only for her to pretent to be that bride, seduce the mummy and manipulated him to kill the professor and her boyfriend and mummify them for extra credits?
I remember that 1. I am a werewolf and I have an appetite for vampires. Awesome childhood memory unlocked.
The werewolf boy is my favorite episode, ❤👏😊
Reminds me of a Stephen King short story, I forget the book's name tho.
It basically starts with the protagonist, a man down on his luck who gets paid to steal kids and hand them over to a trafficking ring. He maintains in his head that he's a good guy and as soon as he makes money to pay off his debt he will make up for all the harm he caused.
So he's in his car now with a drugged boy driving to the delivery point when the kid wakes up (way before the dosage would allow him too) and starts attacking the kidnapper vicously, biting and scratching. He's also screaming that when his grandfather finds the guy he will kill him. Eventually the protagonist overpowers the kid (with difficulty) and administers another dosage of the drug. He marvels at the kid's strength and his own injuries while also being taken aback by the size of the boy's teeth which seemed quite large and sharp, almost like fangs. He then suddenly hears something fluttering in the wind and a heavy thump on the roof of the car. A hand with impossible large pointy nails breaks through the window.
Sorry for the long synopsis lol.
@@Lymbe06 found the story
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popsy_(short_story)
Jason Voorhees has encountered everything from hell to space to Manhattan 🤣
Manhattan was the hardest for homeboy😂
I live in Manhattan! We like it!😂
It's a real heroes journey.
@@thatlittlevoice6354 🤣🤣
Not even Satan wants to go to Manhattan
Doctor Sleep is one of my favourite films. In general revenge horror is amazingly satisfying to me...I just love it when the victim turns out to be far, far crazier than the bad guy...
8:36 I love Mike Flanagan’s Doctor Sleep. I feel it is a much better sequel than how King portrayed it the book. It was very clever for Flanagan to decide to film it as a sequel to Kubrick’s film as opposed to a direct adaptation of the book. The climax at the hotel was much more satisfying than how King had to end the book considering that he destroyed the Hotel in the Shining.
@@benniepottsmy wife and I watched this movie shortly after our daughter was born... we had to pause the movie and collect ourselves during that scene, and realized that we could no longer watch media with children suffering.
The Book has the Foundation of the Overlook instead of the Overlook. I like the 'contaminated' vapor and the way Danny released the Overlook Ghouls on Rose the Hat in the book. It was a nice that the sequel played off the continuity of "The Shining" but the book is a sequel to the original book. (Original "The Shining" Jack Torrance redeemed himself-Red's trek to save Danny the Overlook wasn't a fool's errand, Mentored a young Danny as a LIVE human - and fleshed out a lot of detail that wasn't really provided in the sequel.)
Both were enjoyable movies. I liked Dr. Sleep over The Shining. Much improved.
Dr sleep was a god awful movie that put me to sleep. It should have just been called ambien the movie fearing a pointless main bad girl who does nothing scary, nothing intimidating, nothing but walk around in a dumb hat and breath steam. lol. That’s not good.
I love it when this trope happens.
The Villain defeats the Hero, but then the Hero says something like, "you don't understand. I wasn't trying to stop you/defeat you, I was trying to save you" or "I was trying to stop something worse".
It's a nice twist on when the Hero defeats a Villain, only to find out the Villain had very real reasons for their actions/was trying to stop the Hero from suffering a fate worse than death.
This sounds cool, what stories use this trope?
It's like that movie with the cabin in the woods, but I can't remember what it's called
"The Cabin in the Woods" 2011 😂
Warcraft 3, amusingly, uses this trope: The Death Guardian was trying to stop Arthas from claiming Frostmourne because it knew what was going to happen.
"No... trying to save you... from It." *dies*@@Diligent-Witch
Cobweb on Hulu has this trope. And sort of in Cloverfield Lane though the "worse" thing was kind of said all along.
Rose the Hat is easily my favorite female villian. Confident, unapologetic and ruthless. She makes up a majority of the atmosphere in Doctor Sleep
She legit scared me😣
@@mpazinambao2938 while also giving me a woody at the same time. Ah the duality of it all 🙂
Really? My friend you gotta watch more movies. Nothing against the actress playing her but holy crap baskets that movie and rose the hat were some of the most pointless crap ever put to film. lol.
@@Jrseydevil and the story of the jersey devil is such a riveting story....I've seen tons of films my dude and Rose the Hat is a definite stand out. But that's just my opinion, man🤷♂️
@@-xxnegusxx-3511 oh I never said it was. lol. And you can like what you want man you’re your own person. I’m just saying there are way better especially female villains then rose the hat. To me she was just a cookie cutter baddie you know? Like even her motivation wasn’t anything ground breaking or revolutionary it was just to be more powerful. I think the actress did a fine job with what she was given to work with but to me the hat was more intimidating and intresting then rose. lol.
Rose the Hat: Nice hotel. It doesn’t scare me.
Overlook Hotel: Okay. Let me introduce you to my residence.
The hijackers in Blood Red Sky definitely got more than they bargained for
I could be wrong,but I would add the blind gallery owner Hudson from Get Out to this list. He purchases Chris so that he can see again,but puts himself in the hands of Dean Armitage,who saws his head open before realizing that his son,Jeremy,did not show up with Chris,who had escaped. Chris attacks Dean,and Hudson of course is probably in a coma or dead even before the fire.
I’d say you’re wrong. Get out was a bad movie man. Jordan peele should have just stuck to ripping off the Chappelle show
No One Lives is a damn good movie. Although he's not a serial killer. They deal in singularities. He's a numbers guy.
I always love these scenarios in movies. You think you're the big bad Jaws, but then comes The Meg.
There is something magical about Ellie saying "Titty Twister." It should be kept as a soundbyte.
I Saw The Devil is in my top 5 movies of all time. CRIMINALLY under appreciated movie.
Technically Halloween VI had this aspect as well. Dr. Wynn thought he could use and control The Shape but in the end The Shape ended up using him and the cult and brutally killing them off.
Blade 2 had this with the vampires being picked off by the reapers.
There's also an episode of Masters of Horror called Pick Me Up where one serial killer that kills hitchhikers ends up picking up a hitchhiking serial killer that kills people that pick him up and let's just say the ending upends everything.
Oh, man, I *_love_* Pick Me Up! I love most of the 'Masters of Horror' episodes, with _very_ few exceptions (...looking at _you,_ Deer Woman...)! Cigarette Burns, Fair-Haired Child, Homecoming, Jenifer, Imprint...ALL good! ☺
The ever-delightful Fairuza Balk alone makes 'Pick Me Up' worth a look, but how often do we see _serial killers_ with completely opposed Modi Operandi having a turf war? And Walker and Wheeler are so _oddly civil_ with each other in most of the scenes where they interact with each other, like it's all just a "May the best man win" sport between the two, at least until Stacia plays to their egos and pits them against each other for keeps. And just when the ambulance picks them all up and it looks like poor Stacia's going to live to see another day after all...yeah, we know what happens next.
It would be nice if 'Masters of Horror' made like 'The Outer Limits' and came back from the dead for another run, wouldn't it?
So glad to see You're Next and No One Lives on the same list. I always think of these as a perfect double feature
I would have included Nightbreed. The "Bad Guy" is the psychiatrist who is a serial killer who sets up Aaron Boone to believing he is the killer resulting in Boones death by cop. This only propels Boone to becoming a Nightbreed, a species of human dating from Biblical times made up of fantastical people and creatures. The "Doctor" is eventually killed by the "Breed" after he lures the police out to kill them all. The corrupt Sheriff also dies with the "Breed" having to escape and go back into hiding.
A real hidden gem of a film by Clive Barker.
I would also change Hellraiser II in your list for Hellraiser. The main protagonist is not the Cenobites but the killer lover who slowly comes back to life by killing. He is eventually stopped by Pinhead (The Priest) in the climax as he had tried to escape from the Puzzle Box and the Cenobites tortures.
Massively underrated
The actress who plays Cecilia in Saw X absolutely nailed that role. If she would have been played by almost anyone else it would have just been a cheesy plot twist, but man is that character brilliantly despicable. The only other character that’s arguably more evil than Jigsaw in the franchise is Xavier from Saw 2, that guy knocked it out of the park as well, super underrated villain.
100% agree. Everyone involved did an amazing job on Saw X (not least Tobin Bell himself), not since the first Kingsman have I had my expectations of how terrible a movie is going to be so completely subverted. The only criticism I had is that the ending is very unsatisfactory: either Cecilia survives, which nobody watching wanted to happen, or she dies because the poison gas never leaves the room, in which case the trap was inescapable which goes against Kramer's entire ethos (of course, it could be argued that she alone was evil enough to deserve an inescapable trap, but Kramer didn't know she'd involve the Mexican kid when he set it, so the point stands). In any case, great movie, I'm looking forward to rewatching it soon.
I loved doctor sleep. I watched it like 6 times the year it came out. I love stephen king
I remember being very pleasantly surprised by how good it was when I saw it in the cinema, Flanagan did a great job of marrying King's original vision with Kubrick's iconic visuals in a way I never would have thought possible. I definitely need to revisit that movie soon...
You wasted about 9 hours of your life then huh? Why watch the same boring movie 6 times?
I love when Rose the hat gets hers. The fear in her eyes when she realizes she fucked up is perfect.
Brilliant. I've seen some of these. And there are some I've never heard of. Hmmm, one you've missed is Jurassic Park where the raptors have cornered the humans and are playing with them before they attack, the tyrannosaur, who is a man killer, not a pet, stomps in and kills the raptors. This fits your theme of a villain killed by a bigger monster.
BTW, the raptors are called velociraptors in the film. The writer heard that velociraptors had a body 6' long so he showed them with a torso 6' long. No, body meant including the tail length. But by the time the film came out a new fossil, the utahraptor was found (where it's name implies) and it was the size of the raptors in the film.
Buried Alive was my favorite revenge movie. Kind man was poisoned by his wife who was having an affair with her doctor. They planned to kill her husband and collect the insurance money. Turns out she didn't give him enough poison so he work up in his coffin and dug his way out. When found out what happened to him, he trapped his wife and her lover and released them into a death maze that he built for revenge.
The movie's ending was by far my favorite part.
For that movie The Woman it seems like you missed the fact that she wasn't his first victim. When he first captures her the pen he puts her in already had a woman in it that he had tortured to insanity. I really love the No One Lives movie, it's so good. The thing I remember most about Deep Rising is how stupid their guns were. I would love to se Brandon Herrera or Zack Hazard go on a rant about those ridiculous pieces of shit.
They're real guns, just dont carry 1000 rounds.
@@JnEricsonx Yeah I know, they used Calico M955s as the base for them, and they could have just used them as a neat, futuristic looking submachine gun that functions pretty decently. Instead they hot-glued a bunch of ridiculous crap onto them to make them seem "sci-fi" for no reason. They look idiotic and the modifications mean those weapons wouldn't even be able to function with that design. This has pissed me off since I first saw that movie when I was ten.
Cabin in the woods should've totally been in this list
I think that movie maybe doesn't fit the criteria, because the villains of the movie know what is in store for them, that there is something much worse than them just waiting to get out. It's the protagonists who find out that the villains are arguably the lesser of two evils.
@@josephperez2004 same thing could be said about the gecko brothers though. I think there just werent enough spots in the list
While not considered a 100% horror movie I'd give an honorary mention to Metalocalypse: Army of the Doomstar for the demise of the Tribunal and Mr. Salacia.
There was a great episode of 'Tales from the Crypt' called "The Secret" with vampires who adopt a kid and fatten him up just to hunt and eat him later. When they finally release the kid and try to hunt him down he turns into a werewolf, kills them, and then takes their money, house, and butler. Loved that episode....
I do feel like 10 Cloverfield Lane belongs here. Yeah, some people might have predicted based on the movie's name, but as a movie in itself, John Goodman was the primary villain. I remember watching in theaters and thinking "Oh, I guess the naming was actually just a coincidence after all." Truly one of the best 'this brings a smile to my face and I'm glad this exists' moments.
John Kramer put that cops kid in that house filled with neurotoxin in the second movie. A house that was filled with convicts who had been set up and done time because of that cops corruption. Then he locked him in a claustorphobic safe, while awake. I think that was actually worse than what the fake doctor did.
The kid was protected by Amanda. That's just one of the tests she's given, as you see the series progress she wants to break the rules but John keeps testing her to keep her in check. Also, the kid could have been sedated for most of that time while in the safe and woke up just before the timer went off to unlock it. He doesn't make his traps unsurvivable - that would be Amanda and Hoffman. I love the twists in that series, as when you think it's predictable, a new twist comes from out of nowhere even if the twists are not as unexpected. The series as a whole is brilliant.
@chrishouk5796 I mean, how was she supposed to protect him from the drug dealer? She seemed pretty terrified of him, Amanda didn't have a gun, she could try to influence things and obviously, she knew it was a game but the kid was still suffering and dying from the neurotoxin and he had no idea that she was with Jigsaw, so that fact wouldn't affect the terror or pain he felt as he was dying from the poisoned air. Plus, you know, he's watching all these people die around him. He's a kid, it's traumatizing.
@@chrishouk5796 The point is, he still put a kid in harm's way whose only sin was being born with a certain relative.
Let's be honest here, by the time Rose the Hat managed to take Danny down, Danny and co. had been hunting her crew for a while and she was the last survivor. The heroes used their powers and their guns to great effect againstvthe monsters.The hunters became the hunted very quickly when they targeted the guy who spent his lifetime hunting monsters and locking them in psychic boxes in his mind. The fights were generally so one-sided that I almost felt sorry for the psychic vampires. Almost.
Definitely an underrated movie in my opinion. In a way, it is very cathartic due to how the story plays out
Hard Candy, could have been easily number 1
That movie was twisted and great.
I'm normally pretty critical of movie adaptations of books, but Dr. Sleep did a damn good job. They stayed very faithful to the source material except for the ending which was an acceptable change to the original climax
And the scene where Rose goes into Abra's mind and tries to gain information.
In the book how Abra managed to kick Rose's ass was spectacular....I was disappointed that the movie didn't show that.
@Rylosalex yeah, that's a good point. It would've been really cool to see it the way it was described in the book, but they still stayed pretty close with Rose getting her hand caught in the drawer and what not. Still would've been cool to see a Viking Abra riding a stallion though lol
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Yeah, when my little brother and I went to go see the movie, I was super stoked when the scene was coming up.
I whispered to my brother "This part is sooo awesome!!"
Of course, I was disappointed, but I described what happened in the book, and he thought it sounded awesome as well.
Still, the way that Abra creature scared the living crap out of Rose was cool and the way Danny defeated her was freaking awesome!!
No Willy's Wonderland? How could you not include the Janitor?
Because nothing bad happened to the janitor. lol. I mean maybe the owner of Willy’s could have been on there but the janitor beat the breaks off everyone and won. lol.
@@Jrseydevil That's kinda the point... the list is about horror villains, in this case Willy's gang, encountering something worse, in this case the Janitor, who in a twist starts offing the villains.
@@MidBoss666 oh I miss understood what you were saying. I thought you meant that the janitor got more then he bargained for. lol. But yes. I 100% agree that Willy’s wonderland should have made the list. Such an underrated movie
Respect for featuring Don't Breathe and From Dusk Till Dawn. AWESOME FILMS! 😊
Hearing you say titty twister was the best part of the entire video. The uncomfortable tone was hilarious lol.
It doesn't exactly look like my kinda film, but No One Lives sounds so much like an idea I had "serial/spree killers accidentally catch a worse killer", that I want to see how it plays out.
I'm not big into horror movies, yet I've seen half of these. Deep Rising was my favorite by far of the ones I've seen. You can see how the director did The Mummy afterward .
I wholeheartedly agree my friend! I freaking love Deep Rising and it's one of my top 10 favorite movies!
@@ItsFreakinHarding. RIP Treat Williams.
@@JnEricsonx Agreed. Treat was great in Deep Rising and the rest of the cast were pretty good too.
The reason Don't Breathe had that crazy left turn in the third act is because that was how far the writers got before they realized that he was actually the good guy in the story.
So glad to see I Saw the Devil on this list. That was the first movie to come to mind. Such a good movie.
Dude doctor sleep was such a great movie!!!
It's always funny when a Baddie/Baddies thinks they're the big bad villain(s), and then they meet the actual Big Bad Evil Villain(s). xD
It's not well-known I think, but Shallow Ground (2004) has a really unusual bad guy who meets something even worse.
The Last House on the left & I Spit On Your Grave are good ones too! Similar format to storyline but the revenge plots are amazing
Revenge movies are my favourite guilty pleasure, so I agree completely! Although I will say that, necessary to the storyline as it is, I find the rape scene in LHOTT extremely difficult to watch to this day...
The original Tales From The Hood had a bunch of stories in it that fits this subject plus the over arching plot of 3 drug dealers thinking they were getting some product from a funeral home meanwhile you find out they are already dead and are now in hell as the old funeral home owner turns into the devil.
(Your next) is a must have for all horror movies fans out there. Great story
Love that movie too!
Suggestion I have: Horror movies that people always question if they're horror
Enys Men belongs on that list
@@andymackie8283 I already got a few examples. JAWS, Silence of the Lambs, and somehow even Alien one time. I also once had like one instance for each where somebody somehow questioned if the Evil Dead and Final Destination are actually horror which was like absolutely ridiculous
Yah, Dr. Sleep is much better after repeated viewings, specially the Director's Cut.
You’re next is such a satisfying movie to watch, one of my favorites
DUDE! Dr.Sleep! I forgot about that one. I watched it while playing Monster Hunter. Fantastically fun to watch
I really hate that the female lead was able to get rewarded & escaped in “Don’t Breathe.”
She’s a thief and her male companions deserved their fates but she survived?
Rose.the Hat is one of my favorite villains of the last year.
Have you guys ever done PERSONAL favorite horror movies lists? There’s enough members of the What Culture team that there’s probably a lot of variety. Something to consider for the future? Please? 😊
i am very shocked that the collector wasn't on this list.
Dude from trick or treat when he ran into the werewolves
I came here to say this
In 2008's Trick'r'Treat when Stephen encounters the female werewolves.
i love a good protagonist turns out to be ten times more vicious then the villains twist you're next is a slasher masterpiece i love how Erin just home alone's all the killers so creatively
You forgot Willy's Wonderland. Nicolas Cage vs five nights at Freddy's! And cage wins!
8:02 is so damn true. I love The Shining and I thought Dr No Sleep was a fantastic sequel. Definitely felt more like a thriller than horror movie than it's predecessor but it worked damn well.
The Velociraptors meeting the T-Rex in the OG Jurassic Park should be an honorable mention.
Never a movie, but a short story (by Manly Wade Wellman) and a Twilight Zone segment, but "The Devil is Not Mocked" definitely fits the category otherwise. A group of WWII German soldiers tries to set up a headquarters at an old castle in Transylvania...
Made into a good movie called "The Keep" (1983) with Jorgen Prochnow, Gabriel Byrne and Ian McKellen. Directed by Michael Mann. Music by Tangerine Dream.
OMG I had almost forgotten about that movie! Thanks for the reminder!
Just about all of the Hellraiser movies have a villain who gets destroyed by the Cenobytes.
Loved "No One Lives". Totally did not see the twist coming. My fave horror / slasher.
You forgot about Pitch Black(it ain't me you gotta worry about now).
I love You're Next, Erin is such a badass
“Blood Red Sky” deals with this trope via an emotional and dramatic way that swept me off my feet! Ash going nuts in Evil Dead 2, by Sam Raimi, definitely deserves a spot on this list lol 😂. B.R.U.C.E. rising up and destroying his opponent after the daughter put on the gloves in Megan is a good one.
I loved Saw X. A couple of the characters in that movie actually made it scary.
would also say law abiding citizen with the brutal home invaders picking the wrong person to rob
Great list, but you forgot A Clockwork Orange!!
The Doctor Sleep movie is one instance where a movie blew the book out of the water. Hated the novel cause of the bloat, but Flanagans take cut out all the bs and make the story hit harder.
Agree. There are very few cases where SK movies are better than the book - and this is one of them. I slogged through the book - and loved loved loved the movie.
@@KSchorrWriter It's probably the only time it's happened with one of his novels IMO! We've gotten a decent amount of solid movies turned out of his more meh novellas at this point, but I can't think of another time he actually beat the novel, hell of a writer!
I must confess I never read the book, but absolutely loved the movie! As an equal parts Kubrick and King fan I was very impressed by how Flanagan managed to simultaneously respect both heritages
You forgot Last House On The Left. The revenge scene is great!
OMG I absolutely loved "You're Next"
I think it's time to watch from Dusk till Dawn and I need to watch Doctor Sleep again
The evil lawyers of Wolfram & Hart encountering The Beast in Angel The Series.
Yeah, the easy defeat of Pinhead pretty much ended my interest in the movies. You can’t just drop a major player like that without consequence. Sort of like when Terminator Dark Fate took John Conner out in the first few minutes, no build up or justification. Arnold just walked up, shot him, and walked away. This was perhaps the worst writing decision I could even imagine for the Terminator series. You can’t take the literal lynchpin of the entire story and throw them away like garbage just to satisfy the desire to put a girl in his place.
Thanks so much for the Saw X spoiler warning. I'll move on to another video
Awesome idea and list.
Also, I cannot reccomend 'I Saw the Devil' enough.
Technically everyone in Don't Breathe is a villain
Erin is one of the most badass final girls ever.
Dr. Sleep is very underrated. I read the book and I felt the dread coming when the baseball boy is taken.
In your comments about Deep rising, you guys said that if it wasn't for Canton stopping the cruise ship then the giant sea creature never would have attacked. Well that's not true. The creature was already on its way to attacking the cruise ship, and then when it slowed down enough for it to catch up is when it pierced the hull and started its smorgasbord.
Yeah Canton didnt stop the cruise ship, the mercenary team specifically comments that Canton wasnt suppose to stop the ship (or kill everyone on board). It was the monster that did this.
@@Joseph-nx5gv The ship had stopped moving because Canton disabled it.
I'd say the killer dude in that Halloween movie who got eaten by werewolves is top 5 best in this category
Saw "you're next" in cinema, the whole room was crying from laughter. It is a bit silly but pnce you get the amount of people laughing there is no stoping.
If Home Alone was rated R and a horror movie, im certain this would easily be on the list!
Saw X: "He never put an objectively innocent child in one of his traps."
Yes he did, in the first one. A much younger child actually. For something that his father was THINKING about doing.
The vampire nation versus the Reapers in Blade 2.
thanks for the spoiler for Saw X. Much appreciated 👍
I guess karma appears on horror movie villains.
Okay, that first one is crap. Yes, our main trio ARE robbers and normally that would make them the villains, but considering what the Old Man does in his basement and what he tries to do to Rocky down there, he's 100% the villain. Because heroes don't use semen turkey basters.
Patrick Bateman encountering the real estate lady in American Psycho.
Should have included The Collector. Movie was wild
Didn’t john Kramer put the son of man who was denied insurance in saw 5 in a trap and that son killed the insurance man not to mention donnie wahlberg’s son in saw 2 was in a trap and innocent. Sure both are teen boys but they also don’t need to see such violence
I have never heard of Doctor Sleep, but it seems to be a great movie now I have to look for it.
Scarecrows should be on this list
Doctor Sleep is an amazing film.
Dr Sleep is amazing. Rebecca Fergusson is so good
I don't see Home Alone on this list.
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