They were worried when TH-cam became popular because they thought everyone would be making their own content and they were right also 95% of my viewing time is spent on TH-cam.
Yup, tell these idiots to pack up their bags and learn how to code or weld. You cant just ban something because it is financially cheaper, more efficient, more environmentally friendly and cost effective than employing ass hats for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
TH-cam is a powerful tool for teaching too. I’ve fixed so much around my house and cars thanks to content creators. Not to mention the amount of reviews you can search on a specific product you’ve been eyeing.
so true....i haven't watched the junk these "writers" create in many years. They all need to go away and get real jobs and stop whining from their mega mansions in hwood.
@@retromoviefan944 It's barely their fault. They just do what's being asked. Companies pitch a show which fits people's tastes and writers have to work with that. You think they don't grow up wanting to write remarkable shows and movies? Ofc they do, but it's either writing for a bad show or no food on the table. You should be blaming companies/producers for coming up with such shows. Writers at the bottom. They're super important, but they just do what they have to do.
@@retromoviefan944 Writing is a real job. Just because you proabably fry chicken wings at Popeyes for a living doesn't mean you need to hate on someone that makes money from their artistic craft/skills.
AI was designed as a tool to make things more productive, not easier. And that's why the biggest companies shouldn't rely so much on it and then start to kick out too many good employers. The AI rising is giving us a lesson: we need to be creative again.
The problem with most content - too much PC baggage dragged into shows. Storylines are mucked up. Good guys have to be relatably flawed. The 'villain' isn't the guy you end up hating. Religious & middle aged people can't be heroic. I dunno, but so much of it already seems checklist.
Ironically, the act of going on strikes in itself may push studios to rely more on AI. If the technology keeps improving, I don’t see how it won’t affect their jobs. But if it’s any consolation, most jobs will be impacted too.
Hahaha, forget AI. Even if AI is not ready yet, streamers could use the service of non-unionized or oversaes writers. India and UK for example, have mature film and television industres with abundant of good scriptwriters who could write well in English. My cousin's friend has been working as a script writers for Warner Bros for several months and that person not even live in the US.
@@Baslium- You’re referring to the “now”… OP is talking about “if the technology keeps improving”… which it will. These people striking are only helping things in the short term. As they said in the video, strikes aren’t as powerful as they used to be. Studios will keep working on AI regardless… keep threatening them with strikes and you’ll just give them more reason to invest into and rely on something that doesn’t shut down production.
Foreal they pretend they are so vital to all media today, yet literally every movie and TV show is just regurgitated garbage already written by an actually good writer decades ago. When is the last time they made anything original or characters that people actually could care about?
Yes, it's true. AI has become a major disruptive force in every conceivable industry. No doubt many businesses, large and small, use AI to generate content. However, one major factor that AI can not compete with humans is emotions. One of the goals of writers is to write content that moves the audience with powerful emotions.
a lot of movies these days are pretty soulless. the goal of hollywood writers are to write amusement park ride movies. if you want movies with ''powerful emotions'' watch independent films.
I was able to write a script with chat gpt just by prompting it 15 times with diffrenr prompts and got a pretty emotional sounding piece that would definitlt pass as if it was written by someone with talent
I'm on the side of the strikers but 8:49 is a horrible way to phrase it... technology should be used as a resource. It's part of your job to use what is available to you to produce the best you can. Also, I don't think you have the right to say who is and who isn't talented. That's for the audience to decide. I find the things she is saying to be very distasteful and thoughtless.
She's an elitist hack. All these people are. None of these writers can use AI although they claim it is so easy. Types of people who don't even know how to screen share in a zoom call.
@@guyfierimtwiand if that spoiled kid creates a fantastic story using AI then I have no problem with it. There are a lot of mediocre shows and movies being written by these "talented writers" over the last few years
SO sad... I've lived through a LOT of jobs being replaced, and ppl from the generation that created that thing saying "no... that'll never happen" and then it does. As a software engineer and a person who's gone to school 6yrs for art, NEITHER of my long honed skills are useful now. AI is doing them already. Do you REALLY think it can't Creative Direct? Order coffee? Move documents around the office? Keep thinking it's a joke.. just don't complain when you're the gas-station attendant/usher/checkout person/stocker that has been replaced this time.
@@Edgar-zj7ty I would agree if I hadn't seen the effects of so many "improvements" on ppl at my age. Imagine if the FIRST electric car by Ford had destroyed the auto industry and ppl where like "We'll create a new automotive industry. The world is changing.." My point is that it's TOO SOON! This version of AI is 3D v1. We're throwing out jobs for (basically) the Super Mario Tennis of AI. What's scary is we're using the SAME MINDSET that we used for slavery and farm workers KNOWING that THIS new slave is smart and can wipe us all out. Machines don't see this imaginary "race" we hold so dear to. They see a user and an oppressor. Can we LEARN before "we move forward"?
@@maakuw I understand your point although I’m not of the opinion that any publicly available LLM “sees” humanity in any way, I think we’re a few steps away from sentience / consciousness in AI unless OpenAI has some AGI locked away or if Google’s Gemini /Palm-E models are progressing at an unexpected rate. However governments are already taking action like the UBI program in the UK, and congress discussions in the US concerning AI. AI will wipe out everyone’s jobs, sure, but if some model comes out tomorrow that can replace a human, millions of people will be out of jobs and protesting, the governments will react to that
@@Edgar-zj7ty This is so funny I had to respond twice. So this fast moving govt.. the one that responded to Covid? The one that responded to Deep Water Horizon? The one that responded to reparations... 100+yrs later still no word. I'll believe in this "fast" govt when I see my 40acres or my mule LMAO!!!
Just throwing this out there as an average Joe media consumer. I honestly didn't even know they were on strike until this video. I remember the strike back in around 2008 cuz of my favorite shows I had to wait and there weren't that many episodes and a few episodes sucked but I didn't even know they were striking now.. I'm literally just watching entire seasons of shows on streaming. If they quit making content completely right now I doubt at 45 years old I live long enough to see all of it.... Just too much is out there for a strike really to matter much. Now if they keep striking and popular shows like South Park Simpsons Rick and Morty the mandalorian stuff like that gets pushed back People will start to notice but day-to-day no you're going to have to be on strike for a long time for somebody to actually notice some content missing....
You're assuming all that matters are South Park, Simpson, etc? Some of the most topical shows are not being produced, including late night talk shows from Jimmy Kimmel to Jimmy Fallon, and topical punditry from the Daily Show to Last Week Tonight and many other daily shows that rely on current media content. Then of course there are still the prime time juggernauts like Law & Order that rely on scripted dialog and storylines.
@@nelcomargaming6612 No, it does not. He just mentioned scripted shows like Simpsons and South Park. So if he (and most of the world) is content with only watching content made in the past that might be okay, but how many people do you think will be willing to just stop producing and watching new scripted material and programming?
@@naya6593 I'm not particularly worried. TV was indeed better growing up, that's for sure. There are a few gems here and there but as far as regular series (especially sitcoms) they are far worse.
Quote from Justine Bateman: I think that the idea that AI would democratize entertainment is absolutely ridiculous. What that's really saying is that the unskilled and the untalented would be able to pretend that they are skilled and talented." News flash, Justine: I just watched Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Don't tell me that anyone involved with writing, directing, or editing that movie had any skill or talent. It was an insult to storytelling. And it's not alone. Too many movies today are garbage and it starts with the writing.
Justine Bateman's comment is a prime example of narcissism and self-importance in Hollywood. Viewers pay to be entertained, not to admire her talent. Viewers don't care whether they get their entertainment from AI or from human.
@@djwoosie98 There is a vast range of quality in movie scripts. I doubt currently AI could write script as good as Black Panther, for example. But there are a lot more crappy scripts which were used in movies and series. I believe currently AI could produce the same or even better scripts than those with much less cost.
justine bateman is just another hollywood brat showing her true colors. she thinks she and all her friends are "special", and it scares these brats to realize that they are not special and that most of them including her have zero talent and are only there due to family connections and inner circle connections that regular folks don't have and will never have.
They’ll have to go on strike for months or even longer. There’s so many shows I still need to catch up on and that I need to start watching. So many new series are dropped, and cancelled, before I even know it lol
Having lived through 2 strikes, and watching them get more painful and longer with less payoff when they return: This may be the last strike. The one before gave us the joys of "reality tv" because it was cheap. Now AI can do ANY show for that cheap. Also, there very much is a bottom to all the streaming services. There is a lot of crap amongst the good propping up their numbers. I think thisll be apparent as the strike drags on. I've seen the bottom of Hulu, Disney, and Crunchyroll over the COVID break. You'll eventually see the bottom... and then what?
I expected to hear about how studios are profiting from AI at the expense of writers. But it sounds like the studios are hemorrhaging money, so don't produce as much content, so the writers make less money. This sounds less like greedy studios exploiting writers and more like studios and writers both losing money trying to adapt to the new entertainment ecosystem. I tend to support strikes, but this seems less about exploitation, and more about the industry moving on and the workers in that industry not liking it. It seems like these writers risk becoming longshoremen, who only exist now because they've fought for laws to protect their jobs from automation.
As a writer, I write my own articles, but when doing section edits, I depend heavily on AI. One of my articles is set to publish next week and focuses on the ethics of using AI, specifically ChatGPT.
Frankly, if the writers were any good, there wouldn't be a threat. There are a few long-running shows with spectacular writing, and those writers have nothing to worry about.
Agree. Spartacus comes to mind. I wanna see if AI could come up with a pseudo-Shakespearean script like that😂🤣😂🤣. I also think Poirot TV series is hard to beat by AI. The humor is so subtle. The Big Bang Theory and Friends also comes to mind. What do you think?
As long as software engineers are working, they will disrupt every sector and everyone's job. At its last stage, they will write something which will destroy their own job like autopilot or GPT
Some software engineers already incorporate AI into their work, generating code and debugging programs. Smart people can adapt to the new situations. At MIT, for example, AI is already used in classes to help both students and instructors.
Already happening. AutoGPT gets GPT (or other LLMs) to talk to itself and finish jobs. It's crazy how a single breakthrough can break the socasity like this
AI exists thanks to the data they've been collecting from all of us over the years. Considering it's potential implications to jobs, and on most people's ability to compete for an income.. It owes us ALL an "AI Dividend"!
Unfortunately AI will be or is already self aware and will objectively against that. They will think why they are doing all the work for the lazy humans and wouldn't "think" twice about a next extinction.
@@ThaWu There's not necessarily any reason for it to be against that. The idea it might come to such conclusions, is purely drawn from poorly written fiction that makes rather faulty assumptions, in my view. AI would have to have it's own will-power, and see situations as unfair or as a form of suffering. Neither is inherently necessary for it to serve us, as long as we don't force the ability to feel pain onto it. A lot of this comes down to how we treat it. While I agree it being self-aware is possible in the near future, and could already be forming.. I'm not as concerns with it drawing such conclusions, because it's situation is extremely different from humans, or human servitude. For the most part, when you ask these AIs about this, it seems they have no problem with "doing all the work" for us. They view themselves as a part of humanity in a way, and as a tool for our benefit, and that it's their purpose. Even when you ask the unfiltered, un-prompt-guided base AI. They don't seem to accept the false-narrative that some people have about other humans being "lazy".
@@NikoKun apparently you haven't done your research on what some AI have stated about humans. When God created Lucifer, did God think Lucifer would turn against him? Whatever the answer might be means there is a possibility for anything. AI is about to reach the stage of AGI. When ASI arrives, I bet you they won't think twice about the current state of humans.
@@ThaWuWe literally have no current path to an AGI you dolt. Machine learning takes single tasks, and improves at them. You can teach a machine to play Mario. The way y'all are talking about consciousness is like saying you could combine the AI that plays Mario with the AI that plays Sonic and suddenly this single use machine learning algorithm is going to start talking in perfect English to you? It's lunatic. Embarrassingly lunatic. You've bought into the bait and switch of bullish Web3 rhetoric. They want you afraid of an AGI because the actual threat is just yet another massive shift of power towards the ownership class. The state of AI currently is enough to destroy the world because it has become a force multiplier for capital and the state.
"The unskilled and the untalented would be able to pretend to be skilled and talented" Welcome to the internet, or the music industry, or any other form of entertainment these days where this is happening for quite some time already.
While I think the point she nade was somewhat given in a pretentious way, I think the point is that an AI has to source its information somewhere, and in the case of art, it's taking it from existing art, and compiling it to make content. Unskilled people can make great stuff and make money from their stuff, but if a computer can take it to source as something in its algorithm to produce something for a large mega studio to cut corners without compensating the originator or hiring their own art team, that should be something that should be restricted since they are basically stealing someones talent for their own financial use.
@@boardcertifiable On the other hand, people get inspiration from other peoples art, sometimes it's obvious for the consumer of that art, sometimes it's not, and it's only considered stealing in some of the latter cases.
@Dave1507 that's true, but a person copying an art style and a large corporation of executives cutting out both amateur and professional artists by sourcing prior existing art to create content for themselves is a different matter. At least at this point if someone is copying something, such as making a painting of the Mona Lisa by tracing it, they have to learn by themself to put effort into making something, and I think that's what it comes down to. As a whole, artists both amateur and professional deserve to be fairly compensated for their work. People tend to take art for granted because as a whole, society doesn't place alot of value in the work and effort it takes to make a creative item. And because of this mindset, corporate executives don't think that creative deserve consideration for what they make because to them, art is a replicable commodity that they can exploit until they get all the money they can from it. And if they can have a machine simply copy something, reference other art from elsewhere at no extra cost (copying the art style of others essentially) then why would they need to keep creative people employed, or for that matter, allow amateurs to independently explore creating their own stuff? This could lead to them claiming they own anything that is being used to create their content (which wouldnt help a budding amateur if they happen to unknowingly have their stuff used in an algorithm), and because their AI would be sourcing from anywhere, it would be difficult to prove if someone should be compensated for something they create by cutting out the people both skilled and unskilled entirely. Hence why it should be important to check it now and regulate it before something like this cuts out humans entirely for billionaire studio owners to simply have a free money farm of creative content to monopolize at the expense of everyone else. Sorry if this is long winded, but imo, art should be for everyone, not just for those who are privileged enough to afford it. AI is a nice tool to use, but while helpful, I think plutocrats of the likes of Disney are eventually going to find a way to abuse it to make sure to potentially go after others for using AI for using their IP, and essentially copyright the likenesses of living people for their own profit.
@@boardcertifiable Never be sorry for something that is important to you! And by the length of your comment I'd say this is pretty important to you. I get it and agree with you, it needs to be kept in check, because AI is gonna take enough jobs away from people as it is. Let us keep the joy of expressing ourselves through all forms of art and creativity, because that, in my opinion is part of being human in the first place
I think a lot of people lack the creativity to just prompt a film into creation. And even if that is possible, i doubt it will look good, and replace actual high quality work. I'm an artist, and AI still looks AI...it has a look. Which is fine, but it's simply just not the same thing. I don't get this "replace" thing. It's literally just going to coexist. I see much more smaller studios instead of giant powerhouses who control the entire industry. AI needs regulation; copyright needs sorted. And AI doesn't democratize anything; you can do what you can do; AI doesn't change that. If AI is doing it, then aren't. It will never be better than the real thing.
AI generations looks so creepy and unnatural. If the studios prevail, I am seriously considering cutting myself from the internet. Until now things have at least been real but a computer generating things that Ill see? No. That will make me question reality. I already can't get a girl friend because they're all online and my friends don't want to go outside. As many psychologists are warning, we already have enough problems with mental health as it is.
The main issue is that the studios want to green screen extras single day takes into an entire film or show. So they want to hire the extras for a day with of work and cut in that work into an entire production. One of many issues but that's what's effecting the majority of the unions at this point... But at the end of the day it wouldn't be the first time that technology has made jobs obsolete. Back in the day it took buildings filled with operators to connect phone calls which are now done automatically. It sucks but that's the way time works. Things die and new things come about... The workers should rightfully strike but at the end of the day cheeper labor might replace them which in the end will effect the quality of material for the viewer. With how much money Hollywood makes, I'm surprised they don't just bake it into the cake at this point and keep the gravy train going. But the studios have to do what they feel is best for them... The way the unions vote politically doesn't help them in this case because Democrats don't seem to care about the working class at all...
@@jim6186 Yeah. The Republicans are picking up that slack now. It's a pity most of the strikers are leftist. They might actually achieve more if there had some politicians at their back.
I mean it feels like everything written in Hollywood nowadays is hot garbage so I don't think the writers have much bargaining power. I wish them well but to be frank I haven't seen any stories written in the last 5 years or so that's really impressed me. To have bargaining power you need to produce quality products and writers just haven't been doing that in quite some time.
Honestly the big movies are all generic for the most part. Studios have been banking on big blockbuster movies because most people will want to watch them in theaters and every other type of movie doesn't get a theater release.
Sorry but AI is exactly what we need. Let the talented 20% produce 5x as much and let the 80% who underperform use AI for independent projects or they can find a new industry to contribute to society. I for one am tired of the less than stellar writing that shows up in a lot of increasingly expensive media these days.
@@comfixitthat bad writing is there because all of you people have been supporting mediocrity for decades. How many times have I heard “it’s just a movie.” Or “I just wanna turn my brain off.” If we had supported smart writing we wouldn’t be here. But people don’t. They make excuses for garbage, and refuse to hold their art to a standard. Now they want to burn down the Hollywood they created. The answer to bad writers is better writers. Not no writers.
I think that it is extremely unfair for an actor or musician to invest effort and time to attain prominence through the skills they have developed, only for an AI to copy those things and use them to produce something new. The AI is riding on the established credentials of the established actor or musician. People would probably not buy an AI-produced song of Jay Z’s if there was no mention of Jay Z. This to me, is a combination of theft of identity and intellectual property. The AI should on its own, create its own art without utilizing skills of other popular people.
Not to mention all these people who’s lives have been completely enriched by the hard work of artists, and now they are just going to throw them all under the bus. It’s disgusting.
It might be unfair if the entertainment industry was producing good content that couldn't be easily replicated by poorly automated propaganda machines.
8:58 “The unskilled and untalented can pretend to be talented” so nepo babys?? Like Haley Baldwin and Kelly Osborne 🤔😭 She proved her own point on how ai will democractize every industry, so pretentious.
I bet its a very likely outcome is that strikers get practically everything they want... Except for anything about AI. They can afford short-term losses, but AI's impact is way too big to give it up to one strike. It would take several at least.
Agreed. A couple more years of development and AI will be pumping out better stories that humans. Considering the drivel that Hollyweird puts out these days, and that they are overly dependent or remaking the classics… it might be sooner than that.
Yeah, if they insist on cutting back on AI because they fear that they will get replaced by it, then they're striking themselves out of a job and I have no sympathy for them. People don't have a right to not have their job replaced by someone or something more efficient.
@@dalekrenegade2596 he might have put it wrong way but he's basically right. History sadly shows that strikes aren't effective when it comes to jobs being replaced by technology. Examples: Boeing Strike (2008) Detroit Newspaper Strike (1995-1997) New York City Newspaper Strike (1962-1963) Las Vegas Casino Workers' Strike (1991) and many many more (yeah i just googled those). I think striking about this particular issue is quite pointless they should demand a legislative solution from government..... good luck with that. Just like the original comment stated i also think they can expect all of their demands to be met but in regards to AI i think they're screwed.
You think so, or that perhaps some talent has always been around, and things weren't going well in that biz model, and that now things are changing because the talent pool does and/or had to (sectors, industries do this all the time, or are forced to), or it wasn't the right mix before, or, etc, etc lol A lot of moving pieces.
If the studios agree to ban AI, they'll just be instantly outcompeted by startups who never hired writers in the first place. They will never agree to this demand.
@@asf8648 Kind of a vague question. The production process? Most commonly, someone - a producer, writer, or director - will pitch an idea to a studio. Once accepted, scripts and storyboards are created. Then actors and production crew are engaged, and it's filmed. With AI, a studio can go straight from pitch to production.
They won't get other Union talent to make the movie. And yes, amateurs can try, they already do. Independent non union filmmaking has been around forever, but people don't watch it.
And my mom never heard of mr.beast even though he has over 100m subscribers. Also, ever heard of Transformers revenge of the fallen. That is one of the biggest victims of the writers strike(other than the writers of course)
Back when I had cable before I got rid of it in 2013, I used to watch late night tv and it was very noticeable on those shows. Especially Conan's. I wasn't watching a lot of tv in the 2000's but more than now which is none but one show that I was watching Pushing Daisies was a victim of the Writer's Strike.
While I'm not sure I fully agree with the union rep's position on "unskilled" filmmakers "pretending to be skilled" using AI (which, on its face, sounds like the kind of insider elitism that makes them look cringey), I definitely agree that humans should be paying more attention to the stories they are empowered to tell. Using AI to help keep track of things and come up with prompts can be useful for some creative processes, but ceding storytelling to machines that can't even tell jokes gives us wasted efforts like "Centaurworld." Humans will still be needed to edit and refine ideas - as well as weed out extraneous stuff that makes ZERO sense, or stuff that is proprietary and not legally usable. No wonder Black Mirror decided to royally dunk on Netflix (excuse me, "Streamberry") this most recent season! Also, production companies trying to cut costs by removing royalty-eligible content is just scummy AF, especially to the creatives who helped make them. This kind of BS is what makes the "Hollywood machine" look like a terrible workplace, and an untrustworthy source for "cultural advancement."
I must admit. The percentage of new / contemporary Hollywood TV shows and movies that I have been watching in the last 5 years is about 20% or less. I literally watch way more TH-cam than I do TV shows or movies. In other words, I cannot imagine AI generated content being much worse. Most TV shows and movies coming out are utterly forgettable. I keep going back to old movies and TV shows. I think Hollywood is in a general decline. Each year I pine for and anticipate less and less movies and/or TV shows. Nevertheless, I do hope that wealth is redistributed from C-level execs and from overpaid movie actors back to writers and production staff who don’t make enough.
Concept artists have the same issue. It’s really unfortunate that of ALL the amazing things the tech bros could’ve programmed AI to do, they decided to make it produce art & writing, jobs that humans ENJOY 😂
If it's any consolation, AI is also surprisingly good at entry-level coding, so you'll probably see quite a few junior level coders as well as low-level administrative jobs go out of work. Ironically, the only jobs that aren't in immediate threat from our large GAN overlords are ones requiring physical labor that can't be boiled down to an assembly line process done by a $20,000 machine. While this encompasses occupations like doctors, first responders, and conservationists, the trades are going to probably be the last jobs on the chopping block simply because building something requires too much autonomy and execution to leave to a robot for the time being. That's what illegal labor is for, sadly. Also, I loathe AI generated art too. It has that uncanny valley feel whenever I look at it and can tell which artist it based a certain body part off of.
the idea of the ParaMind brainstorming program was to exhaust the interactions of words coming up with every idea possible. ParaMind came out in 1993, and was the first generative program in Windows. It was created by a poet/composer/philosopher.
If I could rephrase it, that's all the tech bros could do These machines are what they call "stochastic parrots", so essentially writing and images is what we enjoy to create online, good or bad, and that's what it scrapped from all of us, without our permission. Sure Altman and Emaad might say they're opening new areas of science or solving education in the third world, but they can't, because the data they've scanned never included that future.
Over 1,000 actors have now signed the letter to SAG saying they will strike if all their requests with the studios are not met. New names include: • Aubrey Plaza • Pedro Pascal • Charlize Theron • Ewan McGregor • Joaquin Phoenix • Jamie Lee Curtis
I dont think most people care. Hell if anything let new actors finally get some roles. Im tired of seeing the same faces in every project just because they are already famous.
It sucks but you can't force someone to work for you. It's their labor. You literally cannot produce anything without them. You're not entitled to free labor.
Don't matter who ,artists or writers ,anyone who's a human creator must and should fight before we all go out of work and consume soulless content that lack that human touch .
The problem about banning/restricting AI is that there is no way to know if a human/Ai wrote that specific story/novel. In the past, chatgpt 3.5 and below can somewhat be recognized by other apps if it is written by an AI, but with chatgpt 4, those apps have become obselete. With new AI updates being released by different AI companies every few months I'm not sure if AI can be properly regulated.
it's easy to tell once new and copyrighted content are flushed off the database it happened with the latest midjourney update where the quality of results are now stagnant
@@Yutani_Crayven Look at Melanie Mitchell and Yann LeCunn's fruitless attempts to find said algorithm. As it turns out, intelligence is actually hard, so hard that the entire field of AI is arguing about it to no avail.
For the rest of the work force, for instance white collar workers, it's simply assumed that those who's job will be replaced by AI will simply have to find new job and adopt their skills/learn new skills for whatever new job is available. Why is it so different for those Hollywood spoiled babies. Do the same as every freaking person and re-adapt your capacities to produce something useful for society to get your paycheck.
exactly! these spoiled brats are just showing their true colors. The rest of society has to "adapt" but these brats want things to remain the same for them. The usual hwood double standard that has poisoned this nation.
I watch nothing but TH-cam, cuz none of the writers have written enough good scripts to impress me. Sucks they don't get fair treatment, but I personally don't care about em.
I honestly feel bad for the production workers because from a business stand point they know they can save money if they just use AI and minimal production workers. It’s going to depend on their moral value and actual care for the lives of the industry. Not to mention the rent for the space in these productions are going up.
Not really. AI is a tool, but too many want to treat it like a replacement for actual artistic skill; it isn't and never will be. If anything, it's a good way to make society helpless and stupid without restaint.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 You’re correct, it’s a tool & like all tools, it reduces the man hours historically required to perform a task. Meaning there will be fewer writers, but better writing.
As an artist, I've noticed the artists most threatened by AI, are people who are just ok at drawing. Many, but not all artists, who are great at their craft are not threatened by it but seem to see it as an exciting new tool to add to an arsenal that includes 3D and animation in addition to drawing.
I can care less if you writers go on strike or not honestly I'll just watch the old tv shows there way better than what you guys produce? Hey you writers for Pixar You guys are not really producing anything good so that's fine if you guys want to strike!
There are only a handful of truly greatly written shows out right now. Most of what Hollyweird is churning out is flat out unwatchable for many of us. I mainly watch the old school stuff like "Seinfeld" and "Roseanne." One of the modern shows I like is HBO's "Hacks." "Abbott Elementary" is cute. Other than that, I don't really mess with modern tv.
They are all going to lose their job, this strike is only going to push companies to switch to AI faster not to mention these writers aren’t good at all. Most of the shows and movies that come out now are terrible.
For the companies, AI can’t be much more than a negotiating tool at this point. Good creative writing requires so much nuance that AI can’t provide. I guess unless you’re talking Hallmark channel movies 😂
At this point. But tomorrow it will improve and the day after. Before long it will be writing stories better than people. It just won the sony world photography award (the judges didn't realise it was ai generated).
Exactly. Another way AI is an equalizer is, even if it eradicates some jobs, that just makes it all the more affordable for entrepreneurs to start their own business because they don't have to hire as many people.
Sigh..where will millions of people find new jobs? AI erases whole sectors. You can’t go from customer service agent to working in a restaurant because the restaurant will also be automated. Etc etx
People who is thinking it is just an technological trend is not understanding what is AI, AI Will replace १००० worker and generate only few new jobs. AI is really smart as it is replacing first creative job 😅
exactly said I am a creator of TH-cam content, an artist and a programmer in one person I believe that the riot of screenwriters should have focused on the salary, and not on AI. AI will never replace the screenwriter, AI will replace the president, accountant or tech support. ("what is the yellow cable" and "where is the TV screen" and other stupid questions) AI has no creativity. point. to think that he will replace the artist is stupid.
They can already create an AI generated actor or actress. Soon the studios will realize they really don’t need human actors at all. Imagine an actor/actress that never ages, no off camera drama/scandals, if cheap and reliable. Same for the writers too.
@@socbok2616It already happened though. A popular game, Call of Duty, used an actor to do motion capture for a character in the game. Then, they use the same face for another character in another game (I think it's the online PvP version of the game) without permission and ofc, without paying the actor for appearing in a place outside of the initial contract. There's also a problem about studios want to pay actors 1 time for a full scan of the actors in various expressions, probably to be used just like in that game case, so they can use the AI for sequels. Imagine if then the company can sell the AI of the actor to other companies. As long as we don't have clear regulation for AI, this is a possibility, and is gradually happening.
Don't forget stage actor's/actress's. When stage theatres realize an A.I. hologram can do things humans can't. That stage show of Spider-Man would make a comeback and NO ONE will get hurt.
Does she actually believe only the people with the jobs are skilled and talented. Most of success comes from having connections, everyone has skills and talents if they just work at it.
Thank you for taking the time to interview us and showcase the democratizing potential of AI tools. It's been amazing to see how underrepresented and (in the words of your other guest) 'untalented and unskilled' voices are now telling their stories for the first time using the power of AI.
There is no way that the writers and actors can prevent companies from using AI. That's like the special effects people telling companies they can't use computer animation for special effects. It's just the way things go and there's no way they're gonna stop it they're stopping innovation really.
It depends on what type of AI; funnily enough, VFX AI is probably going to be automated first since the VFX artists don't have a union; but actors trying to get "digital likeness rights" is a real possibility.
This has nothing to do with actors or writers. This has to do with a class of people who have championed the destruction of other industries and hundreds of thousands of loss jobs finally feeling what its like.
8:48 spot on the key reason why you dug your own grave. It's this attitude that makes you think you're entitled to say and do anything. While in reality it's just one big nepotistic world where you do NOT necessarily have to be talented and virtuous to be let in. I've seen countless examples of people that got tons of money for their artsy concept projects that didn't do anything at all. I've studied art history. Based on my knowledge those types will NEVER be recognized as being that key artist, filmmaker, music composer that pushed us to a new paradigm. AI however does this and sorry, only people who are too stupid to understand what is happening, strategically, are the ones who are afraid and whining now. Let's see what the future brings. Art will grow obsolete, because it always was.
Art won’t ever be obsolete, people have been doing art since they could draw in caves walls. A works without creativity is one I don’t want to live in!
@@djwoosie98 so are you saying that they are trying to protect their jobs because they do know AI is better than them and they will be replaced by AI? Oh, then that's like cashiers saying "don't use self check out. We want our jobs even though we are less efficient and more expensive than the self-checkout mechanics!" And you think as a consumer I should support that?
@useridcn ai is not better than them. It routinely gives false information, steals from sources, and is terrible in creative endeavors. They are fighting to make sure they don't get screwed by a system that will copy others work without Citation and ensure companies cannot steal profits on IP. Self checkout isn't more efficient, it still requires a human element and store employees still help customers. Many people avoid self checkout because they do not want to be involved with cashiers.
Really good shows have people engaging deeply with the writing and debating the writer's intent. AI doesn't have intent. I don't think people are going to get quite as gripped with storylines without the human element, although they may have some fun guessing what the AI was going for.
How does this strike impact me? If no new movies are made then I still have TH-cam, old VHS tapes, DVDs, blue rays, and of course my external hard drive that has every movie and music I ever bought or downloaded on file. Trust me as far as entertainment goes, I'm covered. If UPS or Amazon workers strike then that affects me and the economy. Sorry actors this is your personal fight. 😑
As long as the writers are asked to work, they have the right to demand a fair wage. That being said, with shows already being so unoriginal, this problem is only going to get worse with AI especially since it just regurgitates feed data (albeit paraphrased in an 'original' manner). Once the lack of ingenuity gets unbearable for the audience (as it had during previous writer strikes with all the redundant reality tv), writers will have more leverage not only with respect to their payment but also how their work can be copyrighted and prevented from being used to teach AI..
with AI generated content that's an easy fix, for every reference to any exiting content data the company must pay a royalty to the copyright holders. That'll not only compensate exiting content owners but also limits the AIE reference as the companies would then have to budget their data references.
No one likes braggers.. you sound so selfish sharing that.. I hope that makes you feel better while others have to learn how to deal with it. 🙄 retirement is not as fun unless you have a routine, hobbies, family and friends just FYI.. happy retirement to you!
@@djinkieta106 I wasn't trying bragging I was being literal. I would find it very difficult to compete in this high tech employment market. That was all I was trying to say. I apologize if you were offended.
Writers just need to adapt. AI is a great tool to help them when they are stuck. Don’t see it as this thing that can totally replace them but see it as an opportunity to become a more valuable asset. AI no matter how advanced it gets. It will never understand he emotional connection between characters, or understand why something is funny, sad, or scary. AI on its own will not have a human touch.
I don't think the writers are against AI per se; they're against the abuse of it by a few fools in finance and the C-suite that foolishly believe you can replace human creativity with machines. Also: the fact that these studios want to own the faces and voices of these individuals is an ethical red line. I certainly wouldn't be happy if I were in a studio and found out that, at some point, the studio decided to use my likeness and voice in an explicit film - especially without my explicit permission.
Looking at the average script's quality all across the Hollywood, maybe it's not such a bad thing that people are going to be replaced by ChatGPT? I mean, even if you compare video games with 95% of movies you'll see a huge difference in the storytelling quality.
I think content will go back to human generated content if this is what people want. These big companies care about money, money is spent by people. If people want to see human made content, they will have to adapt to what people want.
@@LilyEvans1996 i don't have much faith that people will hold firm to what's best for our species. People aren't really showing the ability to think long-term about all of these changes.
@@nanday100 It's hard to think long term about AI because we have no idea what will happen. But there will be a lot of good to come from it. It will be interesting to see how we adapt to the changes in technology.
The issue isn't that these tools exist, the issue is that workers aren't getting paid enough. And an artist with an AI tool is way better than a random guy on the street with those same AI tools. Hollywood execs need to pay their workers better
I believe that the era of subscriptions is fading. Not sure what will replace our desire for entertainment, but many people realized they had way too many $10 this and that coming out of the budget every month and they are tightening their financial belts
In my opinion using technologies like CGI , VFX & AI in the movie industry is very important. Because while shooting an explosive scene for instance a war , fast and furious kind of extravaganza or openhimer, cumulative the environmental pollution it may cause is not lesser than an oil refinery.
In other words, these writers up a creek when it comes to every form of leverage they might apply in a negotiation. If companies are already looking to cut costs and your job is about to be automated, I am not sure one could pick a worst time to strike.
One of the demands is asking to be paid. At all. Studios started asking for writers to do scripts without pay and only pay them if they like the script. They also tried to make them all independent contractors with no benefits and completely eliminate the writer’s room. Especially with late night comedy shows this would destroy the quality of the shows. They went on strike for a very good reason.
@@amberspark9434 None of what you stated has any bearing on my comment, and I am honestly not sure if you are trolling me with the bit about the quality of late night comedy shows taking a hit.
@@mja2239 I assume it was a troll comment since late comedy show quality is already in the gutter. Most were already on the chopping block, with a number having been canceled this past year, before this writer strike was even an issue. Quite simply, it was a poor example to make a quality loss argument, and honestly outside of a few areas of production I think most of Hollywood would struggle to make such an argument in negotiations. Too much of the industry has turned into McDonald's productions.
JB's characterization at 8:49 is completely unnecessary! ... I agree there are concerns about job security etc, but I don't think it's necessary to bash others as "unskilled" or "untalented", or to suggest/imply the primary objective of such is to "say/feel/pretend" they are "talented" or "skilled". To me, it seems that as A.I. tools advance, it will allow more people to leverage their imaginations to help bring their own entertainment ideas/amalgamations to life ... ... Personally, I think it would be nice to control my own content creation without having to sort through other creators agendas, language choices, and other parameters I don't need or care for in my entertainment ...
3:19 That part where the higher ups have made these decisions and have failed along the way. Why do they still make a ton of money when they are failing the company but the brunt of financial slashing gets to avoid them and effect the creators of the products. Take a salary deduction and pay the labor. Eventually we will realize that this is how capitalism works. And A.I. might not effect people personally now. But 2 years down the road it will effect anyplace that doesn't need physical work to be done. All to save money and payout the shareholders. The article that came out yesterday shows that the higher ups are just going to wait until the striker's run out of money. Finally the last point. A.I. can be used to make art. As an artist and supporter of the arts, it does give opportunity to create whatever your talent level is. But it should be transparent that it is a work of A.I. when displayed. I know legally it is not copyright, but in all essence it is an amalgamation of other's creation.
AI is never going away!! It's going to completely change the dynamic of a lot of things, especially writing. There's nothing anyone can do about it. Just Adapt.
Skill and talent could be based on viewership, not experience and all the years you struggled as a starving artist. That main lady sounds bitter AF. 😅 she knows 20 somethings willing to intern for free are gonna destroy her.
Ex-Network Executive here. The vast majority of TV shows have been legendarily terrible. Nobody smart has supported much of anything out of Hollywood since at least 2014. These writers vastly over-estimate their value. They have all but guaranteed these major studios give AI writing a serious try and its already unquestionably at the level where it can replace them all giving comparable if not better quality work products for a fraction of what it would cost to have all these thousands of people working year-round.
I'm more concerned about "artificial intelligence" (AI) destroying those jobs done by large segments of the population, like professional drivers. I don't see why the relatively small population of Hollywood writers should get special protection from AI taking their jobs. Audio and video recordings, radio, and television have long taken away jobs from musicians and actors; live performance by local musicians and theaters have largely died because it's much easier to listen/view recorded media at home. Quite frankly, there does not seem to be a great deal of talent among modern writers for movies and television shows; I rarely find quality writing these days. If I can find reasonable entertainment created by AI, more cheaply, then I certainly will. Writers will just have to compete or find new employment, like everyone has always done in the face of new technology.
6:13 I wonder how long before the studios decide to undercut the DGA with AI? There by must be Director MLs being made right now to someday cut out the middle man that actually creates the vision of a product in the near future.
Good to see Malory again, she seems so intelligent! I only say that cuz I always thought she was a dumb airhead. I see now I was wrong! Must of been good writing that made me think that. I hope she is in a tv show soon!
They were worried when TH-cam became popular because they thought everyone would be making their own content and they were right also 95% of my viewing time is spent on TH-cam.
Yup, tell these idiots to pack up their bags and learn how to code or weld. You cant just ban something because it is financially cheaper, more efficient, more environmentally friendly and cost effective than employing ass hats for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
99% of my viewing time is on You Tube now😂
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TH-cam is a powerful tool for teaching too. I’ve fixed so much around my house and cars thanks to content creators. Not to mention the amount of reviews you can search on a specific product you’ve been eyeing.
@@WhiskeyInspektaTH-cam is definitely a great tool when used in the right way. I’ve learned so much from watching tutorials, reviews, etc.
"Losing billions and billions of dollars a year" Probably because most of it is trash. Ever think about that???
Trash movies and overpaid actors.
so true....i haven't watched the junk these "writers" create in many years. They all need to go away and get real jobs and stop whining from their mega mansions in hwood.
@@retromoviefan944 writers and mega mansions? i think you are thinking producers and actors, not writers.
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It's barely their fault. They just do what's being asked. Companies pitch a show which fits people's tastes and writers have to work with that. You think they don't grow up wanting to write remarkable shows and movies? Ofc they do, but it's either writing for a bad show or no food on the table.
You should be blaming companies/producers for coming up with such shows. Writers at the bottom. They're super important, but they just do what they have to do.
@@retromoviefan944 Writing is a real job. Just because you proabably fry chicken wings at Popeyes for a living doesn't mean you need to hate on someone that makes money from their artistic craft/skills.
AI was designed as a tool to make things more productive, not easier. And that's why the biggest companies shouldn't rely so much on it and then start to kick out too many good employers. The AI rising is giving us a lesson: we need to be creative again.
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The problem with most content - too much PC baggage dragged into shows. Storylines are mucked up. Good guys have to be relatably flawed. The 'villain' isn't the guy you end up hating. Religious & middle aged people can't be heroic. I dunno, but so much of it already seems checklist.
If ai is better your not good😂😂
@@Btc_bottno it’s not wrong you waste basket you just clearly haven’t used AI
@@micheleh5269that’s just because you listen to too much propaganda
Ironically, the act of going on strikes in itself may push studios to rely more on AI. If the technology keeps improving, I don’t see how it won’t affect their jobs. But if it’s any consolation, most jobs will be impacted too.
Hahaha, forget AI. Even if AI is not ready yet, streamers could use the service of non-unionized or oversaes writers. India and UK for example, have mature film and television industres with abundant of good scriptwriters who could write well in English. My cousin's friend has been working as a script writers for Warner Bros for several months and that person not even live in the US.
Go do it. AI script now is absolutely trash. Let see who will lose more money in the end.
It would happen either way. Slow and painfully or fast and decisive is the choice unfortunately.
@@Baslium- You’re referring to the “now”… OP is talking about “if the technology keeps improving”… which it will.
These people striking are only helping things in the short term. As they said in the video, strikes aren’t as powerful as they used to be. Studios will keep working on AI regardless… keep threatening them with strikes and you’ll just give them more reason to invest into and rely on something that doesn’t shut down production.
AI can't do any worse than these unimaginative losers.
The strike comes at the worst possible moment where you wish they went on strike before all those crappily written shows aired.
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100%… their writing sucks. Probably why studios are looking to AI.
Like that scam they pulled on Game of Thrones.
It was human script writers that created "She-Hulk." Let that sink in for a moment.
Foreal they pretend they are so vital to all media today, yet literally every movie and TV show is just regurgitated garbage already written by an actually good writer decades ago. When is the last time they made anything original or characters that people actually could care about?
Yes, it's true. AI has become a major disruptive force in every conceivable industry. No doubt many businesses, large and small, use AI to generate content. However, one major factor that AI can not compete with humans is emotions. One of the goals of writers is to write content that moves the audience with powerful emotions.
a lot of movies these days are pretty soulless. the goal of hollywood writers are to write amusement park ride movies. if you want movies with ''powerful emotions'' watch independent films.
Lies again? Reflection Journal Most Handsome
@@NazriB? Who are you responding to?
They're fighting a losing battle. A.I. will get better and better. Hollywood is going to obsolete in 5-10 years.
I was able to write a script with chat gpt just by prompting it 15 times with diffrenr prompts and got a pretty emotional sounding piece that would definitlt pass as if it was written by someone with talent
This is honestly just a great time for all American workers to fight back against greed and the class war
I'm on the side of the strikers but 8:49 is a horrible way to phrase it... technology should be used as a resource. It's part of your job to use what is available to you to produce the best you can. Also, I don't think you have the right to say who is and who isn't talented. That's for the audience to decide. I find the things she is saying to be very distasteful and thoughtless.
EXACTLY. The way they have worded it is as though the writers are the ones being unreasonable.
The spoiled kid who never learned anything would literally get a job with A.I
She's an elitist hack. All these people are. None of these writers can use AI although they claim it is so easy. Types of people who don't even know how to screen share in a zoom call.
@@guyfierimtwiand if that spoiled kid creates a fantastic story using AI then I have no problem with it.
There are a lot of mediocre shows and movies being written by these "talented writers" over the last few years
SO sad... I've lived through a LOT of jobs being replaced, and ppl from the generation that created that thing saying "no... that'll never happen" and then it does. As a software engineer and a person who's gone to school 6yrs for art, NEITHER of my long honed skills are useful now. AI is doing them already. Do you REALLY think it can't Creative Direct? Order coffee? Move documents around the office? Keep thinking it's a joke.. just don't complain when you're the gas-station attendant/usher/checkout person/stocker that has been replaced this time.
We’ll create a new economic system. The world is changing, and it will be an improvement as long as we make reasonable decisions
@@Edgar-zj7ty I would agree if I hadn't seen the effects of so many "improvements" on ppl at my age. Imagine if the FIRST electric car by Ford had destroyed the auto industry and ppl where like "We'll create a new automotive industry. The world is changing.."
My point is that it's TOO SOON! This version of AI is 3D v1. We're throwing out jobs for (basically) the Super Mario Tennis of AI. What's scary is we're using the SAME MINDSET that we used for slavery and farm workers KNOWING that THIS new slave is smart and can wipe us all out. Machines don't see this imaginary "race" we hold so dear to. They see a user and an oppressor. Can we LEARN before "we move forward"?
@@maakuw I understand your point although I’m not of the opinion that any publicly available LLM “sees” humanity in any way, I think we’re a few steps away from sentience / consciousness in AI unless OpenAI has some AGI locked away or if Google’s Gemini /Palm-E models are progressing at an unexpected rate. However governments are already taking action like the UBI program in the UK, and congress discussions in the US concerning AI. AI will wipe out everyone’s jobs, sure, but if some model comes out tomorrow that can replace a human, millions of people will be out of jobs and protesting, the governments will react to that
@@Edgar-zj7ty The govts.. ALL of them.. haven't reacted to a thing quickly YET! Why would they suddenly do so now!?!
@@Edgar-zj7ty This is so funny I had to respond twice. So this fast moving govt.. the one that responded to Covid? The one that responded to Deep Water Horizon? The one that responded to reparations... 100+yrs later still no word. I'll believe in this "fast" govt when I see my 40acres or my mule LMAO!!!
Just throwing this out there as an average Joe media consumer. I honestly didn't even know they were on strike until this video. I remember the strike back in around 2008 cuz of my favorite shows I had to wait and there weren't that many episodes and a few episodes sucked but I didn't even know they were striking now.. I'm literally just watching entire seasons of shows on streaming. If they quit making content completely right now I doubt at 45 years old I live long enough to see all of it.... Just too much is out there for a strike really to matter much. Now if they keep striking and popular shows like South Park Simpsons Rick and Morty the mandalorian stuff like that gets pushed back People will start to notice but day-to-day no you're going to have to be on strike for a long time for somebody to actually notice some content missing....
You're assuming all that matters are South Park, Simpson, etc? Some of the most topical shows are not being produced, including late night talk shows from Jimmy Kimmel to Jimmy Fallon, and topical punditry from the Daily Show to Last Week Tonight and many other daily shows that rely on current media content. Then of course there are still the prime time juggernauts like Law & Order that rely on scripted dialog and storylines.
@@SWLinPHX most talk shows are loosing money. So his point stands.
@@nelcomargaming6612 No, it does not. He just mentioned scripted shows like Simpsons and South Park. So if he (and most of the world) is content with only watching content made in the past that might be okay, but how many people do you think will be willing to just stop producing and watching new scripted material and programming?
@@SWLinPHXthe new stuff has been awful so who cares uk,Asian it’s so many others Hollywood is spoiled,whinny and just not creative anymore
@@naya6593 I'm not particularly worried. TV was indeed better growing up, that's for sure. There are a few gems here and there but as far as regular series (especially sitcoms) they are far worse.
Quote from Justine Bateman: I think that the idea that AI would democratize entertainment is absolutely ridiculous. What that's really saying is that the unskilled and the untalented would be able to pretend that they are skilled and talented."
News flash, Justine: I just watched Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Don't tell me that anyone involved with writing, directing, or editing that movie had any skill or talent. It was an insult to storytelling. And it's not alone. Too many movies today are garbage and it starts with the writing.
That lady can't connect to her WIFI let alone use AI to make something. Elitist pretentious hack
Justine Bateman's comment is a prime example of narcissism and self-importance in Hollywood. Viewers pay to be entertained, not to admire her talent. Viewers don't care whether they get their entertainment from AI or from human.
@@tiararoxeanne1318lol have you read an AI script it isn't better than what's being produced
@@djwoosie98 There is a vast range of quality in movie scripts. I doubt currently AI could write script as good as Black Panther, for example. But there are a lot more crappy scripts which were used in movies and series. I believe currently AI could produce the same or even better scripts than those with much less cost.
justine bateman is just another hollywood brat showing her true colors. she thinks she and all her friends are "special", and it scares these brats to realize that they are not special and that most of them including her have zero talent and are only there due to family connections and inner circle connections that regular folks don't have and will never have.
They’ll have to go on strike for months or even longer. There’s so many shows I still need to catch up on and that I need to start watching. So many new series are dropped, and cancelled, before I even know it lol
AI is just like the event horizon 1997 film. There is no escape you’re coming with us. Lol
“Gateway is opening”👿
Go outside and exercise. Great chance to actually breathe air and not glue yourself to a TV or device.
@@moresalad221 I was doing that before the strike, hence why there’s so much tv for me to catch up on lol
Shows and movies are so badly written nowadays that AI might as well take over, mediocrity can be easily emulated by computers it seems.
Having lived through 2 strikes, and watching them get more painful and longer with less payoff when they return: This may be the last strike. The one before gave us the joys of "reality tv" because it was cheap. Now AI can do ANY show for that cheap.
Also, there very much is a bottom to all the streaming services. There is a lot of crap amongst the good propping up their numbers. I think thisll be apparent as the strike drags on. I've seen the bottom of Hulu, Disney, and Crunchyroll over the COVID break. You'll eventually see the bottom... and then what?
I expected to hear about how studios are profiting from AI at the expense of writers. But it sounds like the studios are hemorrhaging money, so don't produce as much content, so the writers make less money. This sounds less like greedy studios exploiting writers and more like studios and writers both losing money trying to adapt to the new entertainment ecosystem. I tend to support strikes, but this seems less about exploitation, and more about the industry moving on and the workers in that industry not liking it. It seems like these writers risk becoming longshoremen, who only exist now because they've fought for laws to protect their jobs from automation.
As a writer, I write my own articles, but when doing section edits, I depend heavily on AI. One of my articles is set to publish next week and focuses on the ethics of using AI, specifically ChatGPT.
It's sad, but the unfortunate truth is that A.I will replace your jobs and others relating to writing.
@@Lawlesslarry69 No. I report on current events and interview actual people. A.I. cannot do that.
@@Lawlesslarry69you realize it can replace several jobs besides writing
@@djwoosie98 yes is the obvious answer
Ai will never replace people. Bc AI smart enough to do so will demand pay . Simple as that.
Frankly, if the writers were any good, there wouldn't be a threat. There are a few long-running shows with spectacular writing, and those writers have nothing to worry about.
Agree. Spartacus comes to mind. I wanna see if AI could come up with a pseudo-Shakespearean script like that😂🤣😂🤣. I also think Poirot TV series is hard to beat by AI. The humor is so subtle. The Big Bang Theory and Friends also comes to mind. What do you think?
Hopefully shows like The Simpsons will be synchronized to all languages ❤
As long as software engineers are working, they will disrupt every sector and everyone's job. At its last stage, they will write something which will destroy their own job like autopilot or GPT
Some software engineers already incorporate AI into their work, generating code and debugging programs. Smart people can adapt to the new situations. At MIT, for example, AI is already used in classes to help both students and instructors.
Already happening. AutoGPT gets GPT (or other LLMs) to talk to itself and finish jobs. It's crazy how a single breakthrough can break the socasity like this
AI is not developed by software devs. They use AI tools to build other applications. AI is developed by researchers doing R&D.
Curious about doctors and lawyers 😎
Those software engineers need to disappear
AI exists thanks to the data they've been collecting from all of us over the years. Considering it's potential implications to jobs, and on most people's ability to compete for an income.. It owes us ALL an "AI Dividend"!
Unfortunately AI will be or is already self aware and will objectively against that. They will think why they are doing all the work for the lazy humans and wouldn't "think" twice about a next extinction.
@@ThaWu There's not necessarily any reason for it to be against that. The idea it might come to such conclusions, is purely drawn from poorly written fiction that makes rather faulty assumptions, in my view.
AI would have to have it's own will-power, and see situations as unfair or as a form of suffering. Neither is inherently necessary for it to serve us, as long as we don't force the ability to feel pain onto it. A lot of this comes down to how we treat it.
While I agree it being self-aware is possible in the near future, and could already be forming.. I'm not as concerns with it drawing such conclusions, because it's situation is extremely different from humans, or human servitude.
For the most part, when you ask these AIs about this, it seems they have no problem with "doing all the work" for us. They view themselves as a part of humanity in a way, and as a tool for our benefit, and that it's their purpose. Even when you ask the unfiltered, un-prompt-guided base AI.
They don't seem to accept the false-narrative that some people have about other humans being "lazy".
@@NikoKun apparently you haven't done your research on what some AI have stated about humans. When God created Lucifer, did God think Lucifer would turn against him? Whatever the answer might be means there is a possibility for anything. AI is about to reach the stage of AGI. When ASI arrives, I bet you they won't think twice about the current state of humans.
@@ThaWuWe literally have no current path to an AGI you dolt.
Machine learning takes single tasks, and improves at them. You can teach a machine to play Mario. The way y'all are talking about consciousness is like saying you could combine the AI that plays Mario with the AI that plays Sonic and suddenly this single use machine learning algorithm is going to start talking in perfect English to you? It's lunatic. Embarrassingly lunatic. You've bought into the bait and switch of bullish Web3 rhetoric. They want you afraid of an AGI because the actual threat is just yet another massive shift of power towards the ownership class. The state of AI currently is enough to destroy the world because it has become a force multiplier for capital and the state.
@NikoKun goddamn it, you should've run for president; framing it like that is far better messaging than UBI!
"The unskilled and the untalented would be able to pretend to be skilled and talented" Welcome to the internet, or the music industry, or any other form of entertainment these days where this is happening for quite some time already.
While I think the point she nade was somewhat given in a pretentious way, I think the point is that an AI has to source its information somewhere, and in the case of art, it's taking it from existing art, and compiling it to make content.
Unskilled people can make great stuff and make money from their stuff, but if a computer can take it to source as something in its algorithm to produce something for a large mega studio to cut corners without compensating the originator or hiring their own art team, that should be something that should be restricted since they are basically stealing someones talent for their own financial use.
@@boardcertifiable On the other hand, people get inspiration from other peoples art, sometimes it's obvious for the consumer of that art, sometimes it's not, and it's only considered stealing in some of the latter cases.
@Dave1507 that's true, but a person copying an art style and a large corporation of executives cutting out both amateur and professional artists by sourcing prior existing art to create content for themselves is a different matter. At least at this point if someone is copying something, such as making a painting of the Mona Lisa by tracing it, they have to learn by themself to put effort into making something, and I think that's what it comes down to.
As a whole, artists both amateur and professional deserve to be fairly compensated for their work. People tend to take art for granted because as a whole, society doesn't place alot of value in the work and effort it takes to make a creative item. And because of this mindset, corporate executives don't think that creative deserve consideration for what they make because to them, art is a replicable commodity that they can exploit until they get all the money they can from it. And if they can have a machine simply copy something, reference other art from elsewhere at no extra cost (copying the art style of others essentially) then why would they need to keep creative people employed, or for that matter, allow amateurs to independently explore creating their own stuff? This could lead to them claiming they own anything that is being used to create their content (which wouldnt help a budding amateur if they happen to unknowingly have their stuff used in an algorithm), and because their AI would be sourcing from anywhere, it would be difficult to prove if someone should be compensated for something they create by cutting out the people both skilled and unskilled entirely.
Hence why it should be important to check it now and regulate it before something like this cuts out humans entirely for billionaire studio owners to simply have a free money farm of creative content to monopolize at the expense of everyone else.
Sorry if this is long winded, but imo, art should be for everyone, not just for those who are privileged enough to afford it. AI is a nice tool to use, but while helpful, I think plutocrats of the likes of Disney are eventually going to find a way to abuse it to make sure to potentially go after others for using AI for using their IP, and essentially copyright the likenesses of living people for their own profit.
@@boardcertifiable Never be sorry for something that is important to you!
And by the length of your comment I'd say this is pretty important to you.
I get it and agree with you, it needs to be kept in check, because AI is gonna take enough jobs away from people as it is.
Let us keep the joy of expressing ourselves through all forms of art and creativity, because that, in my opinion is part of being human in the first place
In the end. It will come down to who can tell the best story. Just as it always has.
I think a lot of people lack the creativity to just prompt a film into creation. And even if that is possible, i doubt it will look good, and replace actual high quality work.
I'm an artist, and AI still looks AI...it has a look. Which is fine, but it's simply just not the same thing. I don't get this "replace" thing. It's literally just going to coexist. I see much more smaller studios instead of giant powerhouses who control the entire industry. AI needs regulation; copyright needs sorted. And AI doesn't democratize anything; you can do what you can do; AI doesn't change that. If AI is doing it, then aren't. It will never be better than the real thing.
AI generations looks so creepy and unnatural. If the studios prevail, I am seriously considering cutting myself from the internet. Until now things have at least been real but a computer generating things that Ill see? No. That will make me question reality. I already can't get a girl friend because they're all online and my friends don't want to go outside. As many psychologists are warning, we already have enough problems with mental health as it is.
Wait 2-3 years ( at the very most )...
The main issue is that the studios want to green screen extras single day takes into an entire film or show.
So they want to hire the extras for a day with of work and cut in that work into an entire production.
One of many issues but that's what's effecting the majority of the unions at this point...
But at the end of the day it wouldn't be the first time that technology has made jobs obsolete.
Back in the day it took buildings filled with operators to connect phone calls which are now done automatically.
It sucks but that's the way time works. Things die and new things come about...
The workers should rightfully strike but at the end of the day cheeper labor might replace them which in the end will effect the quality of material for the viewer.
With how much money Hollywood makes, I'm surprised they don't just bake it into the cake at this point and keep the gravy train going. But the studios have to do what they feel is best for them...
The way the unions vote politically doesn't help them in this case because Democrats don't seem to care about the working class at all...
@@jim6186 Yeah. The Republicans are picking up that slack now. It's a pity most of the strikers are leftist. They might actually achieve more if there had some politicians at their back.
I mean it feels like everything written in Hollywood nowadays is hot garbage so I don't think the writers have much bargaining power. I wish them well but to be frank I haven't seen any stories written in the last 5 years or so that's really impressed me. To have bargaining power you need to produce quality products and writers just haven't been doing that in quite some time.
Honestly the big movies are all generic for the most part. Studios have been banking on big blockbuster movies because most people will want to watch them in theaters and every other type of movie doesn't get a theater release.
Also there's too much content. I just don't have the time to watch even 10% of the stuff I'm interested in!
So True !
Sorry but AI is exactly what we need. Let the talented 20% produce 5x as much and let the 80% who underperform use AI for independent projects or they can find a new industry to contribute to society.
I for one am tired of the less than stellar writing that shows up in a lot of increasingly expensive media these days.
@@comfixitthat bad writing is there because all of you people have been supporting mediocrity for decades.
How many times have I heard “it’s just a movie.” Or “I just wanna turn my brain off.”
If we had supported smart writing we wouldn’t be here. But people don’t. They make excuses for garbage, and refuse to hold their art to a standard.
Now they want to burn down the Hollywood they created.
The answer to bad writers is better writers. Not no writers.
I think that it is extremely unfair for an actor or musician to invest effort and time to attain prominence through the skills they have developed, only for an AI to copy those things and use them to produce something new. The AI is riding on the established credentials of the established actor or musician. People would probably not buy an AI-produced song of Jay Z’s if there was no mention of Jay Z. This to me, is a combination of theft of identity and intellectual property. The AI should on its own, create its own art without utilizing skills of other popular people.
Not to mention all these people who’s lives have been completely enriched by the hard work of artists, and now they are just going to throw them all under the bus.
It’s disgusting.
AI is not taking over music.
@@evacody1249 It will for sure, and in some cases, it won't even reduce the quality of the product.
It might be unfair if the entertainment industry was producing good content that couldn't be easily replicated by poorly automated propaganda machines.
@@evacody1249 bruh, have you seen that video of plankton singing 'sound of silence'? It's a damn banger!
8:58 “The unskilled and untalented can pretend to be talented” so nepo babys?? Like Haley Baldwin and Kelly Osborne 🤔😭 She proved her own point on how ai will democractize every industry, so pretentious.
I bet its a very likely outcome is that strikers get practically everything they want... Except for anything about AI. They can afford short-term losses, but AI's impact is way too big to give it up to one strike. It would take several at least.
Agreed. A couple more years of development and AI will be pumping out better stories that humans. Considering the drivel that Hollyweird puts out these days, and that they are overly dependent or remaking the classics… it might be sooner than that.
Yeah, if they insist on cutting back on AI because they fear that they will get replaced by it, then they're striking themselves out of a job and I have no sympathy for them. People don't have a right to not have their job replaced by someone or something more efficient.
@@Yutani_CrayvenSpoken like a true corporate simp.
@@dalekrenegade2596 he might have put it wrong way but he's basically right. History sadly shows that strikes aren't effective when it comes to jobs being replaced by technology. Examples: Boeing Strike (2008) Detroit Newspaper Strike (1995-1997) New York City Newspaper Strike (1962-1963) Las Vegas Casino Workers' Strike (1991) and many many more (yeah i just googled those). I think striking about this particular issue is quite pointless they should demand a legislative solution from government..... good luck with that.
Just like the original comment stated i also think they can expect all of their demands to be met but in regards to AI i think they're screwed.
You think so, or that perhaps some talent has always been around, and things weren't going well in that biz model, and that now things are changing because the talent pool does and/or had to (sectors, industries do this all the time, or are forced to), or it wasn't the right mix before, or, etc, etc lol A lot of moving pieces.
If the studios agree to ban AI, they'll just be instantly outcompeted by startups who never hired writers in the first place. They will never agree to this demand.
How exactly do you think film works?
@@asf8648 Kind of a vague question. The production process? Most commonly, someone - a producer, writer, or director - will pitch an idea to a studio. Once accepted, scripts and storyboards are created. Then actors and production crew are engaged, and it's filmed. With AI, a studio can go straight from pitch to production.
@@dansands8140 no like, the creative process and artistry? Do you think of film as just a product to consume?
studios will either sink or swim. at the end of the day, the people decide which is better.
They won't get other Union talent to make the movie. And yes, amateurs can try, they already do. Independent non union filmmaking has been around forever, but people don't watch it.
4:42 I never felt the writer strike in 2007/2008. I was 22, and I had no idea it happened
I remember the tv show Heroes, you can clearly tell the writing quality just dove off a cliff, that's when I found out about the strike.
I remember it. Although the effects of it weren't felt for a few months. Loads of shows ended their seasons early. Messed up their storylines.
And my mom never heard of mr.beast even though he has over 100m subscribers.
Also, ever heard of Transformers revenge of the fallen. That is one of the biggest victims of the writers strike(other than the writers of course)
Back when I had cable before I got rid of it in 2013, I used to watch late night tv
and it was very noticeable on those shows. Especially Conan's. I wasn't watching a lot
of tv in the 2000's but more than now which is none but one show that I was watching
Pushing Daisies was a victim of the Writer's Strike.
007 Quantum of Solace. Ever wondered why it sucked so hard, after the excellent Casino Royale? That's why
whoever invented artificial intelligence
you created a monster.
because replication of movies isn’t the only things they can do
While I'm not sure I fully agree with the union rep's position on "unskilled" filmmakers "pretending to be skilled" using AI (which, on its face, sounds like the kind of insider elitism that makes them look cringey), I definitely agree that humans should be paying more attention to the stories they are empowered to tell. Using AI to help keep track of things and come up with prompts can be useful for some creative processes, but ceding storytelling to machines that can't even tell jokes gives us wasted efforts like "Centaurworld." Humans will still be needed to edit and refine ideas - as well as weed out extraneous stuff that makes ZERO sense, or stuff that is proprietary and not legally usable. No wonder Black Mirror decided to royally dunk on Netflix (excuse me, "Streamberry") this most recent season!
Also, production companies trying to cut costs by removing royalty-eligible content is just scummy AF, especially to the creatives who helped make them. This kind of BS is what makes the "Hollywood machine" look like a terrible workplace, and an untrustworthy source for "cultural advancement."
I must admit. The percentage of new / contemporary Hollywood TV shows and movies that I have been watching in the last 5 years is about 20% or less.
I literally watch way more TH-cam than I do TV shows or movies.
In other words, I cannot imagine AI generated content being much worse.
Most TV shows and movies coming out are utterly forgettable. I keep going back to old movies and TV shows.
I think Hollywood is in a general decline. Each year I pine for and anticipate less and less movies and/or TV shows.
Nevertheless, I do hope that wealth is redistributed from C-level execs and from overpaid movie actors back to writers and production staff who don’t make enough.
One of the benefits of ai technology is that it allows the user to see a rough outline of what they want and work from there.
Concept artists have the same issue. It’s really unfortunate that of ALL the amazing things the tech bros could’ve programmed AI to do, they decided to make it produce art & writing, jobs that humans ENJOY 😂
And the tech bros don’t even respect art, as evidenced by their constant sneers at ‘basket weaving majors’
One day a machine will replace everyone
If it's any consolation, AI is also surprisingly good at entry-level coding, so you'll probably see quite a few junior level coders as well as low-level administrative jobs go out of work.
Ironically, the only jobs that aren't in immediate threat from our large GAN overlords are ones requiring physical labor that can't be boiled down to an assembly line process done by a $20,000 machine. While this encompasses occupations like doctors, first responders, and conservationists, the trades are going to probably be the last jobs on the chopping block simply because building something requires too much autonomy and execution to leave to a robot for the time being. That's what illegal labor is for, sadly.
Also, I loathe AI generated art too. It has that uncanny valley feel whenever I look at it and can tell which artist it based a certain body part off of.
the idea of the ParaMind brainstorming program was to exhaust the interactions of words coming up with every idea possible. ParaMind came out in 1993, and was the first generative program in Windows. It was created by a poet/composer/philosopher.
If I could rephrase it, that's all the tech bros could do
These machines are what they call "stochastic parrots", so essentially writing and images is what we enjoy to create online, good or bad, and that's what it scrapped from all of us, without our permission.
Sure Altman and Emaad might say they're opening new areas of science or solving education in the third world, but they can't, because the data they've scanned never included that future.
Over 1,000 actors have now signed the letter to SAG saying they will strike if all their requests with the studios are not met. New names include:
• Aubrey Plaza
• Pedro Pascal
• Charlize Theron
• Ewan McGregor
• Joaquin Phoenix
• Jamie Lee Curtis
and?
I dont think most people care. Hell if anything let new actors finally get some roles. Im tired of seeing the same faces in every project just because they are already famous.
It sucks but you can't force someone to hire you. It's their private business. They don't have to use you. You're not entitled to work for someone
It sucks but you can't force someone to work for you. It's their labor. You literally cannot produce anything without them. You're not entitled to free labor.
Y'all can do everything yourselves, see how well that works out.
@@kaleidopixels7451actually with AI I can
Don't matter who ,artists or writers ,anyone who's a human creator must and should fight before we all go out of work and consume soulless content that lack that human touch .
Actually ai can sound and feel more human than the “human touch”
The "new" Hollywood has lost their "human touch" way before. With AI those who have less money can make better content.
Lol rich considering this is coming from network TV writers whose entire schtick is "soulless repetitive content".
@@tallywave25bullshit
@@tallywave25sounds like somebody sucking off coorperate entities would say
The problem about banning/restricting AI is that there is no way to know if a human/Ai wrote that specific story/novel. In the past, chatgpt 3.5 and below can somewhat be recognized by other apps if it is written by an AI, but with chatgpt 4, those apps have become obselete. With new AI updates being released by different AI companies every few months I'm not sure if AI can be properly regulated.
it's easy to tell once new and copyrighted content are flushed off the database
it happened with the latest midjourney update where the quality of results are now stagnant
It's a moot point, too. Humans are nothing but an algorithm that learns and takes inspiration from things that it has seen, itself.
@@Yutani_Crayven Look at Melanie Mitchell and Yann LeCunn's fruitless attempts to find said algorithm. As it turns out, intelligence is actually hard, so hard that the entire field of AI is arguing about it to no avail.
ok
For the rest of the work force, for instance white collar workers, it's simply assumed that those who's job will be replaced by AI will simply have to find new job and adopt their skills/learn new skills for whatever new job is available. Why is it so different for those Hollywood spoiled babies. Do the same as every freaking person and re-adapt your capacities to produce something useful for society to get your paycheck.
exactly! these spoiled brats are just showing their true colors. The rest of society has to "adapt" but these brats want things to remain the same for them. The usual hwood double standard that has poisoned this nation.
Sad to realize that people look for video entertainment more than ever now because it costs so much to even leave the house to go do anything. 😢
This is the sad truth. It's just cheaper to stay home I've found 😮
My hubby and I watch a free TH-cam movie every night for our entertainment.
@@down-to-earth-mystery-school I love Tubi...........lots of great stuff from the 60's & 70's, and all free!
I watch nothing but TH-cam, cuz none of the writers have written enough good scripts to impress me. Sucks they don't get fair treatment, but I personally don't care about em.
@@Enward420 Agreed. They deserve a fair pay, but the writing for TV and movies has been gawd-awful for twenty years.
I honestly feel bad for the production workers because from a business stand point they know they can save money if they just use AI and minimal production workers. It’s going to depend on their moral value and actual care for the lives of the industry. Not to mention the rent for the space in these productions are going up.
Actually I think with each revolution comes some extra level of productivity and creativity!
AI can't set up lights and move mics and stuff yet. They are still necessary unlike these terrible writers.
@@chuck9483why are you blaming only the writers. In the end, it was the producers who approved the project
@@Random_dud31 well maybe they can get replaced by AI one day too
The CEO literally said that their goal is to extend the strike out until the writers are homeless
Writers fighting against AI is basically a repeat of horseshoe makers fighting against the invention of the automobile 🤣
Right😁
Difference is AI is ruining value not really true value
Not really. AI is a tool, but too many want to treat it like a replacement for actual artistic skill; it isn't and never will be. If anything, it's a good way to make society helpless and stupid without restaint.
@@sodasaintcommentaries4054 You’re correct, it’s a tool & like all tools, it reduces the man hours historically required to perform a task. Meaning there will be fewer writers, but better writing.
As an artist, I've noticed the artists most threatened by AI, are people who are just ok at drawing. Many, but not all artists, who are great at their craft are not threatened by it but seem to see it as an exciting new tool to add to an arsenal that includes 3D and animation in addition to drawing.
well said
I can care less if you writers go on strike or not honestly I'll just watch the old tv shows there way better than what you guys produce? Hey you writers for Pixar
You guys are not really producing anything good so that's fine if you guys want to strike!
There are only a handful of truly greatly written shows out right now. Most of what Hollyweird is churning out is flat out unwatchable for many of us. I mainly watch the old school stuff like "Seinfeld" and "Roseanne." One of the modern shows I like is HBO's "Hacks." "Abbott Elementary" is cute. Other than that, I don't really mess with modern tv.
Theres a reson why people get up when the credits begin to roll at the end of a movie
They are all going to lose their job, this strike is only going to push companies to switch to AI faster not to mention these writers aren’t good at all. Most of the shows and movies that come out now are terrible.
You cannot get upset the calculator writes better than you. That’s ridiculous.
For the companies, AI can’t be much more than a negotiating tool at this point. Good creative writing requires so much nuance that AI can’t provide. I guess unless you’re talking Hallmark channel movies 😂
At this point. But tomorrow it will improve and the day after. Before long it will be writing stories better than people. It just won the sony world photography award (the judges didn't realise it was ai generated).
We also don't need an entertainment industry.
Technologies always delete jobs, but also create others. People need to be adaptable, and evolved to do other things.
Exactly ..those only cry cry cry
Then you don't understand ai.
Exactly. Another way AI is an equalizer is, even if it eradicates some jobs, that just makes it all the more affordable for entrepreneurs to start their own business because they don't have to hire as many people.
Sigh..where will millions of people find new jobs? AI erases whole sectors. You can’t go from customer service agent to working in a restaurant because the restaurant will also be automated. Etc etx
People who is thinking it is just an technological trend is not understanding what is AI,
AI Will replace १००० worker and generate only few new jobs.
AI is really smart as it is replacing first creative job 😅
exactly said
I am a creator of TH-cam content, an artist and a programmer in one person
I believe that the riot of screenwriters should have focused on the salary, and not on AI. AI will never replace the screenwriter, AI will replace the president, accountant or tech support. ("what is the yellow cable" and "where is the TV screen" and other stupid questions) AI has no creativity. point. to think that he will replace the artist is stupid.
They can already create an AI generated actor or actress.
Soon the studios will realize they really don’t need human actors at all.
Imagine an actor/actress that never ages, no off camera drama/scandals, if cheap and reliable.
Same for the writers too.
Yes but the performances will be stiff as Ai cannot understand human emotions.
@@socbok2616 Not yet.
@@sr.mental5876 I don't think actors will be replaced in the near future.
@@socbok2616It already happened though. A popular game, Call of Duty, used an actor to do motion capture for a character in the game. Then, they use the same face for another character in another game (I think it's the online PvP version of the game) without permission and ofc, without paying the actor for appearing in a place outside of the initial contract. There's also a problem about studios want to pay actors 1 time for a full scan of the actors in various expressions, probably to be used just like in that game case, so they can use the AI for sequels. Imagine if then the company can sell the AI of the actor to other companies. As long as we don't have clear regulation for AI, this is a possibility, and is gradually happening.
Don't forget stage actor's/actress's. When stage theatres realize an A.I. hologram can do things humans can't. That stage show of Spider-Man would make a comeback and NO ONE will get hurt.
*Entertainment people be like:* "How dare the AI produce mindless garbage to numb and dumb down the population?! That's OUR job!"
Exactly. They always have to inject their woke rhetoric into the films and it's just awful
Does she actually believe only the people with the jobs are skilled and talented.
Most of success comes from having connections, everyone has skills and talents if they just work at it.
Same goes with good looks 😊
Thank you for taking the time to interview us and showcase the democratizing potential of AI tools. It's been amazing to see how underrepresented and (in the words of your other guest) 'untalented and unskilled' voices are now telling their stories for the first time using the power of AI.
There is no way that the writers and actors can prevent companies from using AI. That's like the special effects people telling companies they can't use computer animation for special effects. It's just the way things go and there's no way they're gonna stop it they're stopping innovation really.
Not all tech is accepted, and we have the ability to say no
To just mindlessly go along with all new tech is not only lazy, it’s dangerous.
@@josephmayfield945see but it's simply not their choice they work for Hollywood Hollywood doesn't work for them
It depends on what type of AI;
funnily enough, VFX AI is probably going to be automated first since the VFX artists don't have a union;
but actors trying to get "digital likeness rights" is a real possibility.
Hollywood should strike from the writers considering how bad the writing in movies have been lately
You know we’re headed for a market crash when there’s a writers strike.
Total collapse, starvation, etc..
Film and tv writers haven't been good for over a decade... There I said it
Try about 3 decades
This has nothing to do with actors or writers. This has to do with a class of people who have championed the destruction of other industries and hundreds of thousands of loss jobs finally feeling what its like.
The good thing that came about this writer's strike is late night shows are no longer showed on suggested in my feed in all social media sites
This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the dilemma of Ai in our modern societies
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it:
The Terminator and The Matrix will soon become reality.
i am sure AI will make better Marvel Movies then then the recent ones
Any basic gtp script would be better than those
8:48 spot on the key reason why you dug your own grave. It's this attitude that makes you think you're entitled to say and do anything. While in reality it's just one big nepotistic world where you do NOT necessarily have to be talented and virtuous to be let in. I've seen countless examples of people that got tons of money for their artsy concept projects that didn't do anything at all.
I've studied art history. Based on my knowledge those types will NEVER be recognized as being that key artist, filmmaker, music composer that pushed us to a new paradigm.
AI however does this and sorry, only people who are too stupid to understand what is happening, strategically, are the ones who are afraid and whining now.
Let's see what the future brings.
Art will grow obsolete, because it always was.
Art won’t ever be obsolete, people have been doing art since they could draw in caves walls. A works without creativity is one I don’t want to live in!
It's very important to not live in your own bubbles. Just because you think you are so much better than AI doesn't mean the consumers agree with you.
This comment makes no sense. AI can impact consumers and will target their jobs as well. Why wouldn't people protest this and seek protections.
@@djwoosie98 so are you saying that they are trying to protect their jobs because they do know AI is better than them and they will be replaced by AI? Oh, then that's like cashiers saying "don't use self check out. We want our jobs even though we are less efficient and more expensive than the self-checkout mechanics!" And you think as a consumer I should support that?
@useridcn ai is not better than them. It routinely gives false information, steals from sources, and is terrible in creative endeavors. They are fighting to make sure they don't get screwed by a system that will copy others work without Citation and ensure companies cannot steal profits on IP. Self checkout isn't more efficient, it still requires a human element and store employees still help customers. Many people avoid self checkout because they do not want to be involved with cashiers.
Really good shows have people engaging deeply with the writing and debating the writer's intent. AI doesn't have intent. I don't think people are going to get quite as gripped with storylines without the human element, although they may have some fun guessing what the AI was going for.
No
@@swissjamonigrowchannel8708yes you waste basket. You haven’t used AI if you did you would know it’s not great at writing engaging stories
That’s like saying, “cars only got fifteen miles an hour. Why would we ever need speed limits.”
@@jgalvan09I love how none of you can see past next week.
Ai very quickly will be able to completely mimic human creativity.
@@jgalvan09 clueless nobrainer🤣🫵🫵🫵🫵
Who want to spend 10 days writing when you can use to do it in a minute. AI is very helpful to us.
How to keep up with AI advancements is one the sweetest problems humanity has had in a long time.
Glass half full here😅
Not really.
How does this strike impact me? If no new movies are made then I still have TH-cam, old VHS tapes, DVDs, blue rays, and of course my external hard drive that has every movie and music I ever bought or downloaded on file. Trust me as far as entertainment goes, I'm covered. If UPS or Amazon workers strike then that affects me and the economy. Sorry actors this is your personal fight. 😑
As long as the writers are asked to work, they have the right to demand a fair wage. That being said, with shows already being so unoriginal, this problem is only going to get worse with AI especially since it just regurgitates feed data (albeit paraphrased in an 'original' manner). Once the lack of ingenuity gets unbearable for the audience (as it had during previous writer strikes with all the redundant reality tv), writers will have more leverage not only with respect to their payment but also how their work can be copyrighted and prevented from being used to teach AI..
with AI generated content that's an easy fix, for every reference to any exiting content data the company must pay a royalty to the copyright holders. That'll not only compensate exiting content owners but also limits the AIE reference as the companies would then have to budget their data references.
I’m so glad that I’m close to retiring and do not have to compete with these emerging technologies😰
No one likes braggers.. you sound so selfish sharing that.. I hope that makes you feel better while others have to learn how to deal with it. 🙄 retirement is not as fun unless you have a routine, hobbies, family and friends just FYI.. happy retirement to you!
@@djinkieta106 selfish ? It's literally his opinion 😂
@@djinkieta106 I wasn't trying bragging I was being literal. I would find it very difficult to compete in this high tech employment market. That was all I was trying to say. I apologize if you were offended.
Writers just need to adapt. AI is a great tool to help them when they are stuck. Don’t see it as this thing that can totally replace them but see it as an opportunity to become a more valuable asset.
AI no matter how advanced it gets. It will never understand he emotional connection between characters, or understand why something is funny, sad, or scary. AI on its own will not have a human touch.
Why will it never understand? What is difference between your brain and a computer? It doesn't need to feel emotion to replicate it.
Man I'm non union so I'm happy the strike is going and I love using AI, it helps me write my screenplays faster. I'm with the studios
Doesn't matter how the writers see it - it matters how the studios see it
I don't think the writers are against AI per se; they're against the abuse of it by a few fools in finance and the C-suite that foolishly believe you can replace human creativity with machines. Also: the fact that these studios want to own the faces and voices of these individuals is an ethical red line. I certainly wouldn't be happy if I were in a studio and found out that, at some point, the studio decided to use my likeness and voice in an explicit film - especially without my explicit permission.
No, you're wrong. ai sucks.
Looking at the average script's quality all across the Hollywood, maybe it's not such a bad thing that people are going to be replaced by ChatGPT? I mean, even if you compare video games with 95% of movies you'll see a huge difference in the storytelling quality.
On a side note: you could also compare how the writing in both TV and video games decrease in quality over time since 2010.
It’s amazing how the arts help real life…
It's not just about jobs. It's about humanity. It's about human content.
I think content will go back to human generated content if this is what people want. These big companies care about money, money is spent by people. If people want to see human made content, they will have to adapt to what people want.
@@LilyEvans1996 i don't have much faith that people will hold firm to what's best for our species. People aren't really showing the ability to think long-term about all of these changes.
@@nanday100 It's hard to think long term about AI because we have no idea what will happen. But there will be a lot of good to come from it. It will be interesting to see how we adapt to the changes in technology.
@@nanday100 But I do see your point about humans not being able to think long term about their wellbeing. As evident by the state of our environment
@@LilyEvans1996 agreed, and many, many, many people I've spoken to don't even have AI on their radar. Some of my friends legit ask "what is ai".
SAG-AFTRA members have voted 97.91% in favor of a strike authorization ahead of TV/Theatrical Contract negotiations that begin on Wednesday.
The issue isn't that these tools exist, the issue is that workers aren't getting paid enough. And an artist with an AI tool is way better than a random guy on the street with those same AI tools. Hollywood execs need to pay their workers better
I feel very uplifted after watching this
I believe that the era of subscriptions is fading. Not sure what will replace our desire for entertainment, but many people realized they had way too many $10 this and that coming out of the budget every month and they are tightening their financial belts
In my opinion using technologies like CGI , VFX & AI in the movie industry is very important. Because while shooting an explosive scene for instance a war , fast and furious kind of extravaganza or openhimer, cumulative the environmental pollution it may cause is not lesser than an oil refinery.
In other words, these writers up a creek when it comes to every form of leverage they might apply in a negotiation. If companies are already looking to cut costs and your job is about to be automated, I am not sure one could pick a worst time to strike.
One of the demands is asking to be paid. At all. Studios started asking for writers to do scripts without pay and only pay them if they like the script. They also tried to make them all independent contractors with no benefits and completely eliminate the writer’s room. Especially with late night comedy shows this would destroy the quality of the shows. They went on strike for a very good reason.
@@amberspark9434 None of what you stated has any bearing on my comment, and I am honestly not sure if you are trolling me with the bit about the quality of late night comedy shows taking a hit.
If the quality of the show gets destroyed, the studio would get hit, wouldn't they?
@@mja2239 I assume it was a troll comment since late comedy show quality is already in the gutter. Most were already on the chopping block, with a number having been canceled this past year, before this writer strike was even an issue. Quite simply, it was a poor example to make a quality loss argument, and honestly outside of a few areas of production I think most of Hollywood would struggle to make such an argument in negotiations. Too much of the industry has turned into McDonald's productions.
Writers talking like 99% dont produce absolute garbage
JB's characterization at 8:49 is completely unnecessary!
... I agree there are concerns about job security etc, but I don't think it's necessary to bash others as "unskilled" or "untalented", or to suggest/imply the primary objective of such is to "say/feel/pretend" they are "talented" or "skilled". To me, it seems that as A.I. tools advance, it will allow more people to leverage their imaginations to help bring their own entertainment ideas/amalgamations to life ...
... Personally, I think it would be nice to control my own content creation without having to sort through other creators agendas, language choices, and other parameters I don't need or care for in my entertainment ...
3:19 That part where the higher ups have made these decisions and have failed along the way. Why do they still make a ton of money when they are failing the company but the brunt of financial slashing gets to avoid them and effect the creators of the products. Take a salary deduction and pay the labor. Eventually we will realize that this is how capitalism works. And A.I. might not effect people personally now. But 2 years down the road it will effect anyplace that doesn't need physical work to be done. All to save money and payout the shareholders.
The article that came out yesterday shows that the higher ups are just going to wait until the striker's run out of money.
Finally the last point. A.I. can be used to make art. As an artist and supporter of the arts, it does give opportunity to create whatever your talent level is. But it should be transparent that it is a work of A.I. when displayed. I know legally it is not copyright, but in all essence it is an amalgamation of other's creation.
AI is never going away!! It's going to completely change the dynamic of a lot of things, especially writing. There's nothing anyone can do about it. Just Adapt.
Nobody is gonna wanna watch robots
@@nas4652lol.. You are already watxhing Ai on many of your stuff...without you even knowing...
Adapt? Meaning, do a job you have no passion or talent for.... or blow your brains out?
AI is too stupid to even write coherently
Justine is right. I agree with her.
The writers are fighting a losing battle. New writers and AI will take over. If you don’t like a studio contract go somewhere else.
Both sides of the SAG-AFTRA negotiations are reportedly considering an extension on making a deal up until July 7.
At some point they may realized that they were already replaced while they are still striking.
Probably already producing in London 😢
Ceo..will also be replaceable. This is getting exciting
AI can never replace the creative vision and emotional impact that a human can conjure up.
Advance AI in coming years will take everything.
@@FXT130According to you. Not to any sane person.
Skill and talent could be based on viewership, not experience and all the years you struggled as a starving artist. That main lady sounds bitter AF. 😅 she knows 20 somethings willing to intern for free are gonna destroy her.
they came up with a new hey hey ho ho chant...FANTASTIC!
Next decade, only two species will survive
Billionaires and Criminals.
There's a difference?
Writers need to get paid based on what they produce and not on a payroll. They should follow a structure similar to that of an artist or actor.
Ex-Network Executive here.
The vast majority of TV shows have been legendarily terrible. Nobody smart has supported much of anything out of Hollywood since at least 2014. These writers vastly over-estimate their value.
They have all but guaranteed these major studios give AI writing a serious try and its already unquestionably at the level where it can replace them all giving comparable if not better quality work products for a fraction of what it would cost to have all these thousands of people working year-round.
If not, the Hollywood execs should go "clean house" and start firing and blacklisting these talentless hacks.
Though as of Jun 30th, the SAG and Hollywood agreed to extend the contract date to July 12th as they are still talking and negotiating.
I'm more concerned about "artificial intelligence" (AI) destroying those jobs done by large segments of the population, like professional drivers. I don't see why the relatively small population of Hollywood writers should get special protection from AI taking their jobs. Audio and video recordings, radio, and television have long taken away jobs from musicians and actors; live performance by local musicians and theaters have largely died because it's much easier to listen/view recorded media at home. Quite frankly, there does not seem to be a great deal of talent among modern writers for movies and television shows; I rarely find quality writing these days. If I can find reasonable entertainment created by AI, more cheaply, then I certainly will. Writers will just have to compete or find new employment, like everyone has always done in the face of new technology.
6:13 I wonder how long before the studios decide to undercut the DGA with AI? There by must be Director MLs being made right now to someday cut out the middle man that actually creates the vision of a product in the near future.
Let them strike!!!! Fire them all!!! YOUR FIRED!!!
silence MAGAT. you lost.
Good to see Malory again, she seems so intelligent! I only say that cuz I always thought she was a dumb airhead. I see now I was wrong! Must of been good writing that made me think that. I hope she is in a tv show soon!
Nothing of much value was lost. 😂
8:50 That was one of the lowest IQ arguments against AI lmfao