Yeah, the only way to get it is by buying the Celestian Spellemental Pack and praying to RNG or farming Drowned Dan, and his mechanics require you to have a high-level player so you have 9-11 pip spells for the code, only those with Scion cards are going to be able to beat him. I really wish they fixed the cheat so that it only went from 1-7. So I got Ship of Fools by buying a shit-ton of Spellemental packs. X( Seriously, I don't know why they made some of these new bosses impossible to beat. I mean, Von Bracken requires you to do the 1,000,000 hit achievement every time or he'll fully heal! X(
@@walterbishop1697 yeah but for life even before that forest lord was still the best life literally has only forest lord, rat spin, wof and mirage spell and rat spin isn’t easy to get, wof isn’t good for damage at all and the mirage spell aoe is trash
you never need it if you have rat spin. rat spin twice with enchant is just plain better damage. plus you wouldn't blade a ton for mobs anyway. so only bosses might have a better damage scaling with forest lord.
For balance nested fury is easily a deck staple, even if your going against an elemental school (you're still gonna one shot because you can blade stack with it and third arc enemies don't have enough health to tank that.) Only reason to use sun serpent is if you have a balance buffing you and you can one shot boss and kill minions at the same time in azteca.
Before they changed the spells, Ra and Powernova basically switched. I wasn’t playing at the time, so I was shooketh when I logged on after the switch and they were different.
RA is only good when helping people and you need to make sure the boss doesn't kill them lol but that doesn't really happen once you are high enough level to one shot the boss anyway.
So, I know it's really only a card on the Kookaburra pet, but Leafstorm is an AoE and extremely useful for Life wizards that don't have Rat Spin (either for spending crowns or if they are not high enough of a level to obtain the crafting recipe). Just figured I would add this one in to your list since it is an AoE and decently useful (also if your Kookaburra has crit, this spell is fantastic in the lower worlds of the game). Great list otherwise! I definitely agree on Snow Angel being annoying to use, but when you get the spell it is pretty useful for a while until you get bosses that are just better to kill in fewer rounds due to cheats. As always, great job! :)
Fire dragon after the buff is insane, it has a base damage of almost 1000 no other 7 pip comes even close to that and it’s damage is on par with almost 10 pip spells.
Currently questing through on my fire at the moment. From azteca through the point where I got raging bull, I used sun serpent nearly every boss fight. Worked really well for me, better than I expected.
Overall agreed, although there are a couple things I'd move around. The first is Mystic Colossus. I'd personally put it under situational since if the enemy legion shields or mass towers, it will remove that shield on ALL enemies. The second is Scald. Your explanation was good for it, although (while there isn't) if there was a spot for both Situational and Best of the Best, I'd put it in both. P.S. Glad you're feeling better bro and respect for still uploading.
Mystic colossus is by far a Situational one because in mirror lake farming, you don't even have to wait for all the enemies to die. you can just first turn colossus for a massive hit. or you can one shot the spiders at the end of mirror lake with it. you can't use dog on first turn so in some RARE cases, Mystic is pretty darn good.
mystic colossus is sooooo good! I keep it in my boss deck, it's literally 65 less damage than orthrus and will break a myth shield if a boss uses one. obviously I still keep orthrus in deck. But, if the boss uses a shield, I'm definitely glad I have my mystic in deck.. more common than you think! Definitely a situational spell in my eyes.
By the time you get nested fury you have enough pierce to not worry about enemy school. Plus the elemental blades actually work on it for more stacking/higher % than balance blades. It should be a deck staple.
About Wings of Fate at the end, I don't think I've run into a single person who uses Wings of Fate in a fight. The damage is so small that the heal just is not worth it.
0:18 actually I'd say it's a great video idea. About the teir listing: Sound of Musicology and Glowbugs should be switched because Musicology is the strongest aoe in game when upgraded fully and it gives a blade when you crit which is basically all of the time Powernova and Nested Fury should be switched for basically the same reason. On avg Fury does 900 damage which is up there with Glowbugs and Musicology, but for a balance to be doing that much and have elemental blades to power it up more along with their reg universal blades is definitely good Mystic Colousus should be at least situational because Mystic is still myths 2nd strongest aoe only by like 80 I think and takes off a tower or myth shield, that would otherwise make you not kill. This is very similar to Snack Attack with removing the weakness and I as a death main use it all the time when I have a weakness on me
Yeah people keep saying that Wings of fate is an absolutely terrible spell but they forgot to take healing into account. The thing that makes Wings of fate different from all DoT spells is the healing.
I'd still say the use of it is situational because it breaks universal traps. so you really only want to use it against shield, or low levels (but why not use forest lord at that point?) or even rat spin if you learned it. or in some rare cases, a cheating boss that removes even protection traps.
Excited for the future aoe spells :D I really wonder how much longer this game will last and what level it'll stop at. Imagine being level 200? Crazy to think about it ever getting there.
by that point maybe 200 will have new magic we never heard of before? I'm thinking a new type of energy we can collect and start using spells that each of those pips is 5 or 6 pips, meaning spells will be insanely powerful.
As a level 97 myth main, I am so happy I heard someone talk about how pointless earthquake is except for the utility aspect of removing charms and wards. Literally just one more pip and I can double my damage it just becomes a bit of a moot spell at some point.
Love your feedback keep it coming I believe no one explains it better than you, I’ve watched some of your videos and definitely like the detailed explanation you give to other players such as me.
Idk why dot aoe spells are underrated. Snow angel and volcano are highly situational i personally use snow angel on shield spammers and it melts through them every round.
I'm mega late to the party but I find some of these kinda funny because pet variations are better for some of these spells. Like Avenging Fossil specifically is better in the pet because it loses like 70 base damage but it's 3 pips less lol
@@TheDoubleOsG Honestly no, lol. My ice wizard isnt good at all and I havent used him in a few years now. There a few really good ones if you just look up Wizard101 Ice Gear Setup though.
I do disagree with nested fury Because it uses elemental blade and trap, and requires a shad pip, it allows plenty of time to build up for a massive hit with no matter what school it lands on
I mean, sure? I just find that I can hit 2-3 sandstorms in the time it takes to hit nested, which will usually do enough. Ofc, its all situational. Obviously nested is WAY better in a boss situation or a long battle.
correction, Ship of Fools bottom spellement path does more damage at max than rat spin. But who is grinding or paying for more than just the spell unlock for both of these? haha With the spellement drops from the new fairgrounds peril event, maybe in a year people will have full unlocks on every spell. edit: this is true now, not when you posted this
For my myth earthquake is a staple, not the best but it’s good ol reliable considering it does more damage than humongofrog ever can and the added effect of debuffing by getting rid of all shields and blades are nice for any situation. I do realize this is an unpopular opinion tho
Good video. You forgot to include that one fire shadow spell that can split damage between enemies though (scorching scimitars). It’s kinda a situational aoe too. Would’ve liked to hear your opinion on it. Probably belongs in omegalul since the split kills its damage lol
I’ve only really used scorching scimitars as a single hit spell, but it’s honestly not a good one once you get the 6 pip shadow spells. I would say it used to be decent and is now pretty bad.
Pre rework i would disagree with mystic colossuss at one point it was the best myth aoe but post re work i do agree and i think we can say the same for pretty much all of the shadow spells at this point the 7 pip aoe's are just better unless your ice and balance
Just wanna point out that shadow aoe’s should probably be a bit higher, my reasoning being carrying them In your minion deck, when you do get a shad first turn you can just kill, does more base than 4 pip spells and don’t have to wait extra turn for 7 pip, I often use mystic in my minion and boss deck for this reason, if ya got 3 enchant 4 pip 7 pip and shadow aoe in minion deck with a berserk or something questing tends to go quite smoothly
differencce between your rating with deer knight and fire dragon is so funny. Fire dragon has the same problems with damage as deer knight, it does not belong in best of the best.
also it has to do with the relevancy of the spell. Fire dragon is the best fire aoe due to there being few other options. Scarecrow is better than deer knight so deer knight is therefore worse
@@Austin101123 You dont go bottom up you go top down. If each school was an individual list and fire was the topic fire dragon would be top. Theres a reason EVERY fire wizard has it in their deck.
I stg earthquake is my least favorite spell in the game. The amount of times I’ve failed a solo boss fight because the enemy uses it right before I hit is honestly absurd.
If you get the 7 pip sound of musicology, it can do up to 1420 damage with an enchant, and also has the potential to give you a blade. It is the single most powerful AoE in the game, almost as good as glowbugs before it’s nerf
@@TheUltimateRare technically yeah but thats very situational. Snowball Barrage is still an amazing spell though and it really saved the school of Ice. Even an 8 or 10 pip barrage is amazing.
Now, I’ve never played ice before, but I would imagine at a certain point deer knight would be better than blizzard, no? Eventually, you’re not going to finish your fights in 1 turn with blizzard, so I would think it would just be better to blade or trap then deer knight. It has more base damage anyway, so the DOT damage shouldn’t make the fight slower at all, if anything I would imagine it would finish off anyone who didn’t get one tapped. Again, I’m just a humble pyro though so I’m not sure lol that would just be my guess.
The reason why it isn’t is due to how enchants work on overtime spells. When you enchant blizzard it will have around 600 damage with a full enchant, while reindeer knight will only have around 400 because the enchant is split between base damage and overtime. Honestly, it doesn’t make it take THAT much longer, but i would rather one shot than do damage and them die to the overtime just to save a bit of time.
I know you probably intentionally skipped pet spell aoe's or other gear spells like spino but i'd like an honorable mention for Snowball Fight the 3 cost ice spell aoe that does a bit less damage than normal blizz but sets up an ice trap on every enemy for follow up hits. That said ice isnt really a hitter anyway though so. *shrug*
You're kind of just saying random things at times.. Tempest does not out damage Sirens at all. 80 x 9 = 720, Siren's damage starts at 765 and goes up to 905. So at 9 pips, Sirens is clearly better than tempest, you should even go for Sirens over a 10 pip tempest.
Kind of? Only counter to this i have is that 90% of the time you would never use a 9 pip AOE. Usually go for 7 / tempest since waiting for that 9 usually takes too long.
2 years late to the party here. Tatzlewurm Terror's lower spellement path does change it from confuse to +40% myth trap on all enemies, would that change the rating?
i do disagree with your dear knight one i think its really good especaly when you have a lot of ememys that dont have a lot of health if you can put traps on the highest hp and blades i see it as rlly good at least for me id putthem as deck staples but thats because i use it a lot especaly under level 80 or 90 i got it pretty late never had luck almost had the time to craft it then i eventaly got lucky in a pack
I agree with it except snowball barrage. Bugs. Meteor strike. Wings of fate. Basically. You didn't use the logic you used on bugs for snowball barrage. I get it it can do more but if you asked me how many times I saw ppl using barrage it'd be a small amount. Good on paper. But in reality you are gonna be buffing the fire or storm instead of the ice. If barrage stays in n best of best then bugs should be moved up Meteor strike is just really good. When I see a fire do meteor I know it's going to do 3k+ just tons of damage. I don't think the same when life's use rat even though on paper it can have higher base damage And lastly wings of fate. It's a situational for me. Quite honestly it's bad you won't use it over forest lord/rat 90% of the time. Only during certain fights usually ice or certain bosses that spam multiple tower shields is it used for shield removal to help teammates use their own aoes to actually kill. In a way it's like earthquake for the reason it is used. To clear up shields for your team
@@braydon62509 honestly, when this video came out it might’ve already been updated, i haven’t really played storm in years lol. If that’s the case that’s on me.
listen champ I didnt even finish the video im at fire dragon. completely wrong. One of the worst AOE's by far in this game for PVE. Not getting a full effect from feints hurts dragon too much. out of all the rank 7's, Dragon is the worst by far.
Yeah, because the shield removal isn’t enough to make it good. Enemies only shield sometimes, and when they do i usually have enough pierce for it not to matter. I’m not sitting through a 5 minute spell animation because an enemy has a single shield.
rain of fire goes to situationaly just for catacombs farming. edit: you also put fire dragon in best of the best which I just cant agree with you also put WOF in anything other than omegalul. Bad list ngl
My math was technically right because I was adding enchant to that (80x9=720+300) but I still forgot to add enchant to sirens. Either way you aren’t going to be using a 9 pip spell in this game so who really cares.
I think Deer Knight for 95% of death wizards is a staple because Ship of Fools is pay to win so most people won’t have it.
Yeah, the only way to get it is by buying the Celestian Spellemental Pack and praying to RNG or farming Drowned Dan, and his mechanics require you to have a high-level player so you have 9-11 pip spells for the code, only those with Scion cards are going to be able to beat him. I really wish they fixed the cheat so that it only went from 1-7. So I got Ship of Fools by buying a shit-ton of Spellemental packs. X(
Seriously, I don't know why they made some of these new bosses impossible to beat. I mean, Von Bracken requires you to do the 1,000,000 hit achievement every time or he'll fully heal! X(
Drowning Dan now exists
Even so it's golden keys so I'm still trusting deer knight
Sun serpent is really good for soloing as a fire in my opinion. One hit the boss, kill all the minions simultaneously.
forest lord to me is the best just because of the fact you literally use it for almost 100 levels
@@walterbishop1697 yeah but for life even before that forest lord was still the best life literally has only forest lord, rat spin, wof and mirage spell and rat spin isn’t easy to get, wof isn’t good for damage at all and the mirage spell aoe is trash
you never need it if you have rat spin. rat spin twice with enchant is just plain better damage. plus you wouldn't blade a ton for mobs anyway. so only bosses might have a better damage scaling with forest lord.
For balance nested fury is easily a deck staple, even if your going against an elemental school (you're still gonna one shot because you can blade stack with it and third arc enemies don't have enough health to tank that.) Only reason to use sun serpent is if you have a balance buffing you and you can one shot boss and kill minions at the same time in azteca.
Before they changed the spells, Ra and Powernova basically switched. I wasn’t playing at the time, so I was shooketh when I logged on after the switch and they were different.
RA is only good when helping people and you need to make sure the boss doesn't kill them lol but that doesn't really happen once you are high enough level to one shot the boss anyway.
So, I know it's really only a card on the Kookaburra pet, but Leafstorm is an AoE and extremely useful for Life wizards that don't have Rat Spin (either for spending crowns or if they are not high enough of a level to obtain the crafting recipe). Just figured I would add this one in to your list since it is an AoE and decently useful (also if your Kookaburra has crit, this spell is fantastic in the lower worlds of the game). Great list otherwise! I definitely agree on Snow Angel being annoying to use, but when you get the spell it is pretty useful for a while until you get bosses that are just better to kill in fewer rounds due to cheats. As always, great job! :)
It's good that you are feeling better.
Fire dragon after the buff is insane, it has a base damage of almost 1000 no other 7 pip comes even close to that and it’s damage is on par with almost 10 pip spells.
Kaiser Noah: hates overtime spells
Also Kaiser Noah: puts Wings of Fate best of the best
Depends on the overtime.
Currently questing through on my fire at the moment. From azteca through the point where I got raging bull, I used sun serpent nearly every boss fight. Worked really well for me, better than I expected.
Overall agreed, although there are a couple things I'd move around. The first is Mystic Colossus. I'd personally put it under situational since if the enemy legion shields or mass towers, it will remove that shield on ALL enemies. The second is Scald. Your explanation was good for it, although (while there isn't) if there was a spot for both Situational and Best of the Best, I'd put it in both.
P.S. Glad you're feeling better bro and respect for still uploading.
Mystic colossus is by far a Situational one because in mirror lake farming, you don't even have to wait for all the enemies to die. you can just first turn colossus for a massive hit. or you can one shot the spiders at the end of mirror lake with it. you can't use dog on first turn so in some RARE cases, Mystic is pretty darn good.
mystic colossus is sooooo good! I keep it in my boss deck, it's literally 65 less damage than orthrus and will break a myth shield if a boss uses one. obviously I still keep orthrus in deck. But, if the boss uses a shield, I'm definitely glad I have my mystic in deck.. more common than you think! Definitely a situational spell in my eyes.
By the time you get nested fury you have enough pierce to not worry about enemy school. Plus the elemental blades actually work on it for more stacking/higher % than balance blades. It should be a deck staple.
About Wings of Fate at the end, I don't think I've run into a single person who uses Wings of Fate in a fight. The damage is so small that the heal just is not worth it.
0:18 actually I'd say it's a great video idea. About the teir listing:
Sound of Musicology and Glowbugs should be switched because Musicology is the strongest aoe in game when upgraded fully and it gives a blade when you crit which is basically all of the time
Powernova and Nested Fury should be switched for basically the same reason. On avg Fury does 900 damage which is up there with Glowbugs and Musicology, but for a balance to be doing that much and have elemental blades to power it up more along with their reg universal blades is definitely good
Mystic Colousus should be at least situational because Mystic is still myths 2nd strongest aoe only by like 80 I think and takes off a tower or myth shield, that would otherwise make you not kill. This is very similar to Snack Attack with removing the weakness and I as a death main use it all the time when I have a weakness on me
Yeah people keep saying that Wings of fate is an absolutely terrible spell but they forgot to take healing into account. The thing that makes Wings of fate different from all DoT spells is the healing.
I'd still say the use of it is situational because it breaks universal traps. so you really only want to use it against shield, or low levels (but why not use forest lord at that point?) or even rat spin if you learned it.
or in some rare cases, a cheating boss that removes even protection traps.
Excited for the future aoe spells :D
I really wonder how much longer this game will last and what level it'll stop at. Imagine being level 200? Crazy to think about it ever getting there.
by that point maybe 200 will have new magic we never heard of before? I'm thinking a new type of energy we can collect and start using spells that each of those pips is 5 or 6 pips, meaning spells will be insanely powerful.
@@TheUltimateRare they should add water school
@@adiliom5781 that’s like saying they should add Magma school even though there’s fire
As a level 97 myth main, I am so happy I heard someone talk about how pointless earthquake is except for the utility aspect of removing charms and wards. Literally just one more pip and I can double my damage it just becomes a bit of a moot spell at some point.
Love your feedback keep it coming I believe no one explains it better than you, I’ve watched some of your videos and definitely like the detailed explanation you give to other players such as me.
Noah: I hate damage over times >=(
Also Noah: literally mains the damage over time school xD
Well technically my main is death tbh. I havent actively considered fire my main for over a year now.
Idk if it's jist me but I get a shadow pip like every 3 rounds most of the time. The shadow pip aoe's are insanely amazing
Idk why dot aoe spells are underrated. Snow angel and volcano are highly situational i personally use snow angel on shield spammers and it melts through them every round.
feints dont work with them and people want the fight to be over faster
Honestly for me snow angel is pretty good. Its definitely not an S tier spell, but if you gas it up, it can output like 7k damage a turn.
ugh this isn't how it works in pvp
>:(
@@KaiserNoah nobody said it and i didn't wanna leave you hanging otherwise that would be embarrassing 😳
Deer Knight should be at in Deck Staples for all death wizards
eh, not that good damage. have to craft or get spelements. wchool pip. many reasons not to.
The Orthrus buff was such a needed change, especially as a returning player. Still using fuckin humongofrog in Mirage was a strug💀
I'm mega late to the party but I find some of these kinda funny because pet variations are better for some of these spells. Like Avenging Fossil specifically is better in the pet because it loses like 70 base damage but it's 3 pips less lol
bro your videos along with you yourself mean a lot to me. keep up the good work. also, if you dont mind me asking, what levels wizards do you have?
I have way too many wizards to list them all so i’ll just list one of each school. Fire 140 Ice 130 Storm 118 Life 50 Death 140 Myth 104 Balance 115.
@@KaiserNoah thanks homie. ive recently just started watching you, do you have a high level ice wizard setup by chance? sorry for all the questions
@@TheDoubleOsG Honestly no, lol. My ice wizard isnt good at all and I havent used him in a few years now. There a few really good ones if you just look up Wizard101 Ice Gear Setup though.
Ra i think does not need a weakness apply. The fact that a spell based on an Egyptian god yet deals poor damage is mind boggling to me.
I do disagree with nested fury
Because it uses elemental blade and trap, and requires a shad pip, it allows plenty of time to build up for a massive hit with no matter what school it lands on
I mean, sure? I just find that I can hit 2-3 sandstorms in the time it takes to hit nested, which will usually do enough. Ofc, its all situational. Obviously nested is WAY better in a boss situation or a long battle.
18:40 if you fully upgrade it actually does more than orthrus and with an enchant it does 1105 on the high end
plus it confuses enemies, and sometimes enemies use SHADOW ATTACKS ON THEMSELVES.
Fire dragon should be moved down, 690 with enchant is worse than literally everyone else's including ices
dot is kinda trash in pve obviously
Love content like this
I thought he was trolling about wings of fate🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
he's not dude. that heal is shockingly better than we give it credit for.
correction, Ship of Fools bottom spellement path does more damage at max than rat spin.
But who is grinding or paying for more than just the spell unlock for both of these? haha
With the spellement drops from the new fairgrounds peril event, maybe in a year people will have full unlocks on every spell.
edit: this is true now, not when you posted this
For my myth earthquake is a staple, not the best but it’s good ol reliable considering it does more damage than humongofrog ever can and the added effect of debuffing by getting rid of all shields and blades are nice for any situation. I do realize this is an unpopular opinion tho
I just figure since it’s a flat worse than orthrus, ya know? But you do you :)
Good video. You forgot to include that one fire shadow spell that can split damage between enemies though (scorching scimitars). It’s kinda a situational aoe too. Would’ve liked to hear your opinion on it. Probably belongs in omegalul since the split kills its damage lol
I’ve only really used scorching scimitars as a single hit spell, but it’s honestly not a good one once you get the 6 pip shadow spells. I would say it used to be decent and is now pretty bad.
@@KaiserNoah agreed
Personally I don’t see glow bugs as a deck staple past karamelle because sound of musicology is just so much better at max spellements
Pre rework i would disagree with mystic colossuss at one point it was the best myth aoe but post re work i do agree and i think we can say the same for pretty much all of the shadow spells at this point the 7 pip aoe's are just better unless your ice and balance
Just wanna point out that shadow aoe’s should probably be a bit higher, my reasoning being carrying them In your minion deck, when you do get a shad first turn you can just kill, does more base than 4 pip spells and don’t have to wait extra turn for 7 pip, I often use mystic in my minion and boss deck for this reason, if ya got 3 enchant 4 pip 7 pip and shadow aoe in minion deck with a berserk or something questing tends to go quite smoothly
the list would be massively different if they gave us a weapon or deck with first turn shadow pip. XD
Just crafted rat spin today!
enjoy it. my myth has rat spin which he can use with his pack gear haha.
All hail the Dark Lord Cthulhu
differencce between your rating with deer knight and fire dragon is so funny. Fire dragon has the same problems with damage as deer knight, it does not belong in best of the best.
except fire dragon does like twice as much and isnt craftable.
also it has to do with the relevancy of the spell. Fire dragon is the best fire aoe due to there being few other options. Scarecrow is better than deer knight so deer knight is therefore worse
@@KaiserNoah So fire dragon is the best only because "there is nothing better", push it down 3 tiers! XD I think it's a bottom tier deck staple.
@@Austin101123 You dont go bottom up you go top down. If each school was an individual list and fire was the topic fire dragon would be top. Theres a reason EVERY fire wizard has it in their deck.
Rain of fire is situational
I stg earthquake is my least favorite spell in the game. The amount of times I’ve failed a solo boss fight because the enemy uses it right before I hit is honestly absurd.
bro nerfed sirens, deer knight, raging bull and punk nana like kingsisle every update
I think nested is a deck staple
My mans out here acting like Nested Fury doesn’t have the highest average damage per pip of any aoe in the game :/
Fair, balance just isn't really a hitting school tho and the potential gamble on any enemy that's elemental school getting the school is kinda brutal.
If you get the 7 pip sound of musicology, it can do up to 1420 damage with an enchant, and also has the potential to give you a blade. It is the single most powerful AoE in the game, almost as good as glowbugs before it’s nerf
no it's not. snowball cannon does 95X14 + 300 with enchant. that's more than 1420. Ice has the strongest AOE in the game.
good luck getting 14 pips before the storm gets 7 though 💀💀
@@TheUltimateRare technically yeah but thats very situational. Snowball Barrage is still an amazing spell though and it really saved the school of Ice. Even an 8 or 10 pip barrage is amazing.
@@sepsam4556 yeah at least freeze ray was added cause it gives more combo potential. you can have pips left over :)
i think sirens is stronger than 9 pip temp
Now, I’ve never played ice before, but I would imagine at a certain point deer knight would be better than blizzard, no? Eventually, you’re not going to finish your fights in 1 turn with blizzard, so I would think it would just be better to blade or trap then deer knight. It has more base damage anyway, so the DOT damage shouldn’t make the fight slower at all, if anything I would imagine it would finish off anyone who didn’t get one tapped.
Again, I’m just a humble pyro though so I’m not sure lol that would just be my guess.
The reason why it isn’t is due to how enchants work on overtime spells. When you enchant blizzard it will have around 600 damage with a full enchant, while reindeer knight will only have around 400 because the enchant is split between base damage and overtime.
Honestly, it doesn’t make it take THAT much longer, but i would rather one shot than do damage and them die to the overtime just to save a bit of time.
@@KaiserNoah ahhhh okay, that makes sense.
I know you probably intentionally skipped pet spell aoe's or other gear spells like spino but i'd like an honorable mention for Snowball Fight the 3 cost ice spell aoe that does a bit less damage than normal blizz but sets up an ice trap on every enemy for follow up hits. That said ice isnt really a hitter anyway though so. *shrug*
Wait. Tempest. Does 720 a 9 pips. Sirens still hits a bit harder
yeppers
Love your videos man keep up the great work !
thank you ❤️
You're kind of just saying random things at times.. Tempest does not out damage Sirens at all. 80 x 9 = 720, Siren's damage starts at 765 and goes up to 905. So at 9 pips, Sirens is clearly better than tempest, you should even go for Sirens over a 10 pip tempest.
Kind of? Only counter to this i have is that 90% of the time you would never use a 9 pip AOE. Usually go for 7 / tempest since waiting for that 9 usually takes too long.
@@KaiserNoah thats true but Sirens is a great option if you need to blade multiple rounds for a boss with more hp
Tempest at 10 pips does 800 base. Less than sirens.
it do be doing that
Orthrus and Stormlord are super good but Power Nova which has like 30 less base damage is meh? :(
I also hate pvp!
daddy noah
2 years late to the party here. Tatzlewurm Terror's lower spellement path does change it from confuse to +40% myth trap on all enemies, would that change the rating?
Hmm. Its better but its a shadow spell, right? Shadow spells honestly arent that good most of the time
@@KaiserNoah Fair enough. I wont lie, I havent even gotten shadow pips yet, I just like the spell design + the animation is super fast for an AOE.
i do disagree with your dear knight one i think its really good especaly when you have a lot of ememys that dont have a lot of health if you can put traps on the highest hp and blades i see it as rlly good at least for me id putthem as deck staples but thats because i use it a lot especaly under level 80 or 90 i got it pretty late never had luck almost had the time to craft it then i eventaly got lucky in a pack
snow angel is really the worst aoe spell. The enemy will have done it's job already when you're ready to cast that spell
I agree with it except snowball barrage. Bugs. Meteor strike. Wings of fate.
Basically. You didn't use the logic you used on bugs for snowball barrage. I get it it can do more but if you asked me how many times I saw ppl using barrage it'd be a small amount. Good on paper. But in reality you are gonna be buffing the fire or storm instead of the ice. If barrage stays in n best of best then bugs should be moved up
Meteor strike is just really good. When I see a fire do meteor I know it's going to do 3k+ just tons of damage. I don't think the same when life's use rat even though on paper it can have higher base damage
And lastly wings of fate. It's a situational for me. Quite honestly it's bad you won't use it over forest lord/rat 90% of the time. Only during certain fights usually ice or certain bosses that spam multiple tower shields is it used for shield removal to help teammates use their own aoes to actually kill. In a way it's like earthquake for the reason it is used. To clear up shields for your team
Snow Angel was good before the nerf
do normal just attack spells the worst is seletor pirate it never works for me maybe 1 in every 7 blue moons
How about AOE equipment spells like Death Seraph and Aftershock
good video
not a single best of the best balance spell isn’t that tragic for balance
IDK why you keep saying tempest is more damage than sirens at 9 pips. Temp is 80 per pip, 80*9 is 720; Sirens is 765-905.
it’s used to be nearly identical at 730 damage, and sometimes i forget that’s not the damage anymore.
@@KaiserNoah That's fair, I just realized this vid is a year old haha, my bad.
@@braydon62509 honestly, when this video came out it might’ve already been updated, i haven’t really played storm in years lol. If that’s the case that’s on me.
sick video idea
listen champ I didnt even finish the video im at fire dragon. completely wrong. One of the worst AOE's by far in this game for PVE. Not getting a full effect from feints hurts dragon too much. out of all the rank 7's, Dragon is the worst by far.
i would take your opinion into account but you said listen champ which is just strange
@@KaiserNoah Champs a funny word
@@unclesam3245 champ
tempest and deer knight
But it is sooooo good in pvp ?!?!?!?!?!?!?
What about the Morganthe spell for each school?
Eh, not that good honestly.
u are a chad because i also dislike pvp xD
Do single hits next
Mystic is fantastic with the shield removal though, like you totally disregarded that lol
Yeah, because the shield removal isn’t enough to make it good. Enemies only shield sometimes, and when they do i usually have enough pierce for it not to matter. I’m not sitting through a 5 minute spell animation because an enemy has a single shield.
rain of fire goes to situationaly just for catacombs farming.
edit: you also put fire dragon in best of the best which I just cant agree with
you also put WOF in anything other than omegalul. Bad list ngl
Leaf Storm?
Item cards aren't on this tier list.
but it would be only if nothing better
Wasnt mystic colossus good before? I can't remember it's old damage before the rework
I think it’s damage was slightly higher, but the real problem is honestly that they updated orthrus because that’s significantly better now.
they had to nerf it hard because breaking a shield before hitting can be a very powerful tool if you use it wisely.
Before the reworks it was arguably the best myth aoe
what category would you put the life leaf storm spell in?
Probably “No other alternatives” it’s good early game but is completely phased out in arc 2. Not being able to enchant it really just makes it bad.
noah 80 x 9 is 720 lol not 1000 so no sirens is better
My math was technically right because I was adding enchant to that (80x9=720+300) but I still forgot to add enchant to sirens. Either way you aren’t going to be using a 9 pip spell in this game so who really cares.
@@KaiserNoah bro fr sirens is only good inna 2v2 pvp match and thats only the tc version
I would put tazzle wings of fate and snack attack in only if theres nothing better.
where is snake charmer lols
Not really an AOE. At least not entirely. Either way its like F tier.
@@KaiserNoah LMAO i guess that’s true, sucks that myth aoes besides the 7 and 4 pip ones are horrendous
> shadow pip means it's not as good
> Ice tempest shadow pip irrelevant haahah!!!!!
Your tier list is just trash
“ice tempest shadow pip irrelevant haahah!!!!!”
perhaps that's because the ice tempest can be used whenever after you get the shadow pip and will scale its damage accordingly?