When I began the hiring process for MSC, the experience was stuid. Every week, a new requirement that most employers obtain in a one time employment application: personal particulars, enough information for a background check on credit, criminal history, driver license. Sems like MSC has a department for each and every line on an application and these departments are not coordianted. MSC processing is extremely time consuming, and a generally normally awkward process requiring lots of your time, filling out forms, getting processed like for external medical examination procedures and fingerprinting ... it is a government process perfectly attuned to being a wasteful, time consuming shuffle between departments wanting same information or new information that most any civilian prospective employer has at their fingertips from a one, maybe two page job application. So you spend 10 months at sea beause you could not get a relief at the "normal" five month duration and the you get 3 to 5 weeks off you get called back after 1 week off and are expected to go back for another unknown length of sea time or they will let you go. I don't do chaos. No thanks.
I was former Navy from the late 80s to early 90s and went to work with MSC -East Coast from 2007 -2009. I've gotta say John really hits the nail on the head good here. I knew someone like Earl on the Mount Baker then and he was awesome with his knowledge. If I remember right I think he got a certificate for being on the Mount Baker for the longest consecutive days in MSC. The Ship's Master for the Kanawha was awesome, too. I wasn't on the Sacagawea long enough to get to know anyone before I had to return to the midwest to finish up some personal business. Now that I've had time to settle down I think it's time to get back to what I did best in life. I feel fortunate to have a beautiful wife who understands the life of a sailor and is willing to let me do what I've always done best at for a career.
@@PsychoLama2023 sorry I missed your reply here. I got my TWIC recently and looking for the next steps now. I'm just waiting for my son to be out of school before I have to take a trip to take a test or do STCW or whatever the heck hoop I need to jump through. That's just the way I'm thinking while anxious to ship out. It's been way too long since I've been near sea water. LOL
Awesome video!! I’m a former Civmar resigned May 2021 after 10.5 years. I sailed with Earl on the Chambers. He was an awesome shipmate always had the crew laughing.
Good info, much appreciated! I'm curious about what an AB would make realistically, and I'd also like to know how common the storied 2-3 month late MSC crew change is. Thanks, Sailor!
@@thewanderingmariner my app is in determination suitability status...my credit is good now and I only owe back state taxes ..I'm good on federal.. ..like your video man super humor and funny lol .. even now they need people
I work in the GoM with an Oilfield Services Company. You do not get paid when you are off. They do not help you get into schools. While MSC can earn 1/3rd to 1/2 more than base pay in my company take the base pay and cut it by 1/3rd to 1/2 less than base pay. I am trying to get into MSC. I have worked for MSC just after 9-11 for about 8 years. I am now a QMED with lots of endorsements.
🦸♂️ Having worked for MSC before and now being a QMED with all those endorsements, you're definitely ready to take on this new adventure. It’s true MSC offers better pay and more stability, and with your background, they’ll be lucky to have you back. Keep pushing forward- John
Hey is it possible to switch jobs I wanted to be a deckhand but they threw me as a supply utility guy how soon can I switch or try for deckhand position
Hello friend I have all my credentials just had a question about do I need to go to school for 6months or can I just join with my credentials and is it worth it as a 23yr old thx
I got out of the Navy with Honorable Discharge in June of 1983 as EM2, worked with USPS as Maintenance Mechanic/Technician Level 8 for 18 years...now retired at the age of 70, my medical condition is still in good shape...Im trying to get in to MSC...just sent my papers last week, what's the chance that I can be accepted?
So you did years in the Navy as well, what was your rate? I was an US Navy OS for only 5 years but looking to potentially come back to sea now. Any advice
You should be able to buy your time towards retirement 👍. You can collect at 10-30 yrs of service.... however unlike the military.... you have to be of retirement age.
You can buy back your NAVY time, my man! You have a right too. MCS is good. US Navy personal fit right in. Most Navy personal who work with MSC will help you out ( hey we are Navy) If your from another Arm forces personal ( it gets weird) As Navy we know! That's right, everything Chief is saying is " right on about the MSC schedule, not like the Navy: were you work until the job is done. I like how the Chief is right, working the deck plates is a supervisory role. You take care of your people, your people will take care of you! You gain the experience over time. People are important with MSC, it's a good job. You eventually gain insight, on proper procedures. If you follow protocol you will gradually obtain respect with your peers. Unlike the Navy, you will see the world. Gain important knowledgeable concepts with MSC. MCS is very secure Federal employment. You gain good working skills.
I knew as soon as you said Norfolk, I was on the right video, thanks for taking out the time to share this info. Bless you my friend
Did you end up joining?
This is awesome!! Thank you for doing this!
Thank you for leaving the comment. My appologies for super delayed response! :)
Great stuff sir 👏 👍
When I began the hiring process for MSC, the experience was stuid. Every week, a new requirement that most employers obtain in a one time employment application: personal particulars, enough information for a background check on credit, criminal history, driver license. Sems like MSC has a department for each and every line on an application and these departments are not coordianted. MSC processing is extremely time consuming, and a generally normally awkward process requiring lots of your time, filling out forms, getting processed like for external medical examination procedures and fingerprinting ... it is a government process perfectly attuned to being a wasteful, time consuming shuffle between departments wanting same information or new information that most any civilian prospective employer has at their fingertips from a one, maybe two page job application.
So you spend 10 months at sea beause you could not get a relief at the "normal" five month duration and the you get 3 to 5 weeks off you get called back after 1 week off and are expected to go back for another unknown length of sea time or they will let you go.
I don't do chaos.
No thanks.
👍💯
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I was former Navy from the late 80s to early 90s and went to work with MSC -East Coast from 2007 -2009. I've gotta say John really hits the nail on the head good here. I knew someone like Earl on the Mount Baker then and he was awesome with his knowledge. If I remember right I think he got a certificate for being on the Mount Baker for the longest consecutive days in MSC. The Ship's Master for the Kanawha was awesome, too. I wasn't on the Sacagawea long enough to get to know anyone before I had to return to the midwest to finish up some personal business. Now that I've had time to settle down I think it's time to get back to what I did best in life. I feel fortunate to have a beautiful wife who understands the life of a sailor and is willing to let me do what I've always done best at for a career.
Hey man can we swap emails?
@@PsychoLama2023 sorry I missed your reply here. I got my TWIC recently and looking for the next steps now. I'm just waiting for my son to be out of school before I have to take a trip to take a test or do STCW or whatever the heck hoop I need to jump through. That's just the way I'm thinking while anxious to ship out. It's been way too long since I've been near sea water. LOL
If i was 18. I instantly join the MSC. Get the training and after a few years jump to a container ship
I agree!
Awesome video!! I’m a former Civmar resigned May 2021 after 10.5 years. I sailed with Earl on the Chambers. He was an awesome shipmate always had the crew laughing.
Thanks. Earl was a great guy to sail with. 💯
Can a i r lift is great for replenishment at sea using c130 , or c5 and seaplane
What is the pay when at sea for entry level?
Good info, much appreciated! I'm curious about what an AB would make realistically, and I'd also like to know how common the storied 2-3 month late MSC crew change is. Thanks, Sailor!
I somehow or another.... missed your comments. It really depends on ship, mission and schedule. AB'S will make 65-80 ... more if your good.
@@thewanderingmariner my app is in determination suitability status...my credit is good now and I only owe back state taxes ..I'm good on federal.. ..like your video man super humor and funny lol .. even now they need people
I work in the GoM with an Oilfield Services Company. You do not get paid when you are off. They do not help you get into schools. While MSC can earn 1/3rd to 1/2 more than base pay in my company take the base pay and cut it by 1/3rd to 1/2 less than base pay. I am trying to get into MSC. I have worked for MSC just after 9-11 for about 8 years. I am now a QMED with lots of endorsements.
🦸♂️ Having worked for MSC before and now being a QMED with all those endorsements, you're definitely ready to take on this new adventure. It’s true MSC offers better pay and more stability, and with your background, they’ll be lucky to have you back. Keep pushing forward- John
@@thewanderingmarinerAS-E, PSC, Lifeboatman, RFPEW, OSHA 10/30, VPDSD.
Hi I want to get on msc I have everything need to know what type of medical certificate I need?
Hey is it possible to switch jobs I wanted to be a deckhand but they threw me as a supply utility guy how soon can I switch or try for deckhand position
Gonna try it out for myself almost there on documents
What was the outcome 😳
I want to be a Marnier im getting my paperwork done as we speak.
Did you join?
Hello friend I have all my credentials just had a question about do I need to go to school for 6months or can I just join with my credentials and is it worth it as a 23yr old thx
I got out of the Navy with Honorable Discharge in June of 1983 as EM2, worked with USPS as Maintenance Mechanic/Technician Level 8 for 18 years...now retired at the age of 70, my medical condition is still in good shape...Im trying to get in to MSC...just sent my papers last week, what's the chance that I can be accepted?
How did it go?
Did you ever join?
Im completly green but ive ontained my msc, medical, twic, and passport. How would i go about finding my first assignment?
Wow! A little late with the response. Hopefully you are sailing by now?
So you did years in the Navy as well, what was your rate? I was an US Navy OS for only 5 years but looking to potentially come back to sea now. Any advice
You can seek out your merchant Mariner credentials or apply to piney point with SIU or look at military Sealift Commands website.
How long is the tour and how much time off after tour
4 months I'm trying to get rehired lol
Do you have to be clean shaved to work for msc?
Great question. Video out soon. 😀
Yess
Quick question...SIU or MSC? Which one would you pick
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@@thewanderingmariner thank you.
Chief, what’s the retirement in MSC? What if I did 8 years, are they going to accept it if I buy back my service in the Navy?
You should be able to buy your time towards retirement 👍. You can collect at 10-30 yrs of service.... however unlike the military.... you have to be of retirement age.
@@thewanderingmariner like 65? Deym that’s long lol
You can buy back your NAVY time, my man! You have a right too. MCS is good. US Navy personal fit right in. Most Navy personal who work with MSC will help you out ( hey we are Navy) If your from another Arm forces personal ( it gets weird) As Navy we know! That's right, everything Chief is saying is " right on about the MSC schedule, not like the Navy: were you work until the job is done. I like how the Chief is right, working the deck plates is a supervisory role. You take care of your people, your people will take care of you! You gain the experience over time. People are important with MSC, it's a good job. You eventually gain insight, on proper procedures. If you follow protocol you will gradually obtain respect with your peers. Unlike the Navy, you will see the world. Gain important knowledgeable concepts with MSC. MCS is very secure Federal employment. You gain good working skills.
I was onboard for almost a year. Barely made 90k as a reefer. Not worth it one bit. 6 months overdue
Wtf is a reefer who says that
Wow... i know the pay has bumped up for a reefer now days.
@@neverhungryagain2187 apparently people who know what they are talking about when it comes to MSC
@@thewanderingmariner not much. That was in 2020 to 2021. Still ain't worth it
It the short title for a refrigeration engineer. 😀
What about the benefits
Some of the best.