I think it could become a decent truck, but for the release year they just cut too many corners. Take price out of the equation and you have a truck that doesn't have real bump stops, plastic skid plates that are so thin they have been bending in the wind and a trans that has been overheating due to no cooler.
You mean "denial"? You can buy a horse and buggy, take a bus, jog, or call one of us Tacoma owners for a ride. I am not giving my reviews based off a conclusion being a keyboard warrior like most do. I own the vehicle and give feedback from actual experience. Last I checked anybody that admires a specific purchase of any brand could be called a fanboy, right?
@@Jay-nc7vk you can deflect all you want. The reality is that the new Tacomas are exponentially less reliable, just like most new Toyota and Lexus products, and that's setting aside the QC issues they have with the transmission that has resulted in a class action lawsuit. I love Toyota and Lexus but their competitive edge was antiquated, tried and true drivetrains- those days are gone. Get the outgoing models while you can and let some other guy pay to beta test. If you care about reliability then you're not buying their new vehicles right now, plain and simple.
@@Slythey QC is suffering in all brands. It's matter of choice who you want to trust in a brand. Automobiles are like appliances. Not made to last forever like the "old" days. I dont mind buying new vehicles when the situation is right. I dont hold onto them forever. I never finance over 5 years and pay them faster than the life of the loan. My new 2024 Tacoma was only financed at $31,000 out of the door after the paperwork. I will have it paid off before the warranty expires. I am not worried about the truck in my situation. To each his own.
Packages in Canada are terrible. TRD Off-road Manual starts at $53k, the auto is $56k and to get sway bar disconnect is bundled in an $11k package for non hybrid. Trailhunter and TRD Pro are only paired to the hybrid 🥱 and are $30-35k packages in the $51k base TRD Off-road
For anyone that cares, here is a good pricing comparison. I took delivery of my Tacoma in April 2023. My Tacoma is long bed, TRD Off Road with premium / advanced technology package. This package gives you a loaded interior, leather, heated seats, moon roof, etc. It also had the useless predator steps and bed step Toyota add ons. The MSRP was $48,335. Told the dealer I didn't want the add ons, so they gladly deducted the $679 for predator steps and $300 for bed step. This is in the Rochester NY area if it matters.
When people say oh it’s garbage because made in Mexico, it’s turbo 4 bangers or whatever reason in their mind, Tacoma is still a number one midsize king. It’s all personal opinion and personal bias. I see that the ones made in the USA have the same quality issues or worst. In my opinion, no other brands can make better quality than Toyota, and last as long as Toyota. The only thing I disappointed about Tacoma is its price. That’s way too over priced.
It's not bias, it's reality from people who actually know about cars and don't pay to beta test poor QC, slop release vehicles. Toyota Mexico isn't quality. Toyota US isn't quality. Toyota Japan was quality and they're still firing out defective V35a engines for 3 model years and counting. The only Toyota worth buying is manufactured in Japan and now everyone with a brain needs to wait 2-3 more years before considering purchasing a new model Toyota or Lexus.
I have had my 2024 tacoma TRD off-road for over 8 months now and 20,000 miles I drive every day off-road on road the 4 cylinder turbo engine is so impressive i love it the more I drive it the tacoma is so much better then my 3rd generation tacoma
@@davidchenette1091 Appreciate your feedback my friend the difference and you as you are mature fellow with a lot of experience a lot of these naysayers here are young peeps most of them living in the basement still answering to their moms 🫣🙄
Not anywhere around the states I live and 43k for a off-road with nothing in it is still a absolute rip off. I got my 3rd gen TRD off road fully loaded for 42k a few years back. I have driven the 2024s and there is absolutely nothing better about it
I had a 2019. Worst automotive vehicle ownership experience to date. The lack of QDR was astounding. I’m glad it’s someone else’s problem now. I couldn’t imagine spending more for these new ones. Maybe I’d have a different perspective if my 2019 didn’t sour my view of the product and brand. It was my first Toyota. I’m having a difficult time considering the brand again.
Like you said, 50k and they still give you cloth seats. That’s one of the biggest issues I have with these models. Why can’t you give softex seats for a premium truck? Why does the passenger not get power seats in a 50k+ truck
Because when you multiply the extra wiring harness to run to the passenger seat times 200,000 trucks produced per year, Toyota can save themselves millions of bucks not giving you power seats. The bean counters run that company now.
I own a 2024 Tacoma Off-Road with the upgrade package. I averaged 25 mpg last week driving on the highway. I use Castrol Edge Extended oil in mine with the factory OEM filters with no issues. I love the technology and the 14-inch information screen. The 8-speed tranny makes a huge difference as compared to the 3rd generation. I dont mind the turbo on the 2.4L. Toyota tested the turbo 70,000 hours and placed a commercial grade turbo on the 2024 Tacomas to meet the hefty demands. I am not worried about it one bit. I work with people who have over 150,000 miles on their OEM turbos using their work cars and no issues. Just keep up with the oil changes every 5000 miles for the turbo.
@@joeimbesi5361 Only thing I can pick on is some engine noise when the rpm's climb up to 2000 rpm. Some models do not have a hood liner. I ordered a hood liner from Toyota it cut the noise by 50% once installed.
I'd take the last model with the naturally aspirated 4.0L over any of these newer "tiny turbos", for the long haul. This new Taco might make for a great lease, but I won't spend that much on a purchase. Personally, that's my primary deal breaker.
That “might” is the variable that keeps me away. Then you add the price. I have a 2007 FJ 164k on it but… now I see it as a Toyota with the bullet proof V-6 that you can’t get anymore so, I’ll just keep servicing it and wait to see if that “might” in reliability turns out to be “will”. If the new administration dials back the emissions/electric standards, maybe we’ll see a V-6 again 🤷♂️
Sales are very solid Ford Tacoma second half of this year apparently they’ve ramped up production. Tundras well on track for a second best sales year ever in its history
Ben, please get your story right! These trucks are overpriced, built with very cheap materials and have poorly designed/ unreliable powertrains. Getting the use of two Toyota demonstration trucks seems to have made you to walk back your previous remarks.
Just rented one. Engine was super noisy, road and wind noise completely unacceptable. The truck felt so cheap. There’s no way in the world I would ever buy one!
These trucks haven't really been around long to know how these materials will hold up over time. I'm hopeful though, as I'll be in the market for a 6th gen 4runner in a year or two to replace my 5th gen.
I had a 17 limited and traded it in for a new 23 off road loaded for $44k. Could have got a 24 but no way I’d trust it. Not for reliability. Plus same price, I’m only at an SR5. I’d need to drop another $10-12k to get my same truck in 24 model.
THOSE FENDER flares look terrible and cheap ! I guess the painted ones look better but it would have been great if they were part of the fenders not added on
Ben, TFL bought their 24 Tacoma under the allocation system. Can anyone order a Tacoma using Toyota web site? Southeast Toyota Distributer only sells Tacoma under dealer allocation. Sorry to see you losing your objectivity, might have to tune out of your reviews.
People are bitter cuz they can’t afford them. If these were the same prices as the 3rd gens all theee whiners would be singing the new truck praises to high heaven. This is just envy and anger they have been priced out. These people are entitled. They think Toyota owes them a truck that they can afford. That’s not how the world works. Very ugly to see.
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I think it could become a decent truck, but for the release year they just cut too many corners. Take price out of the equation and you have a truck that doesn't have real bump stops, plastic skid plates that are so thin they have been bending in the wind and a trans that has been overheating due to no cooler.
Pricing is just insane on these.
The 2024 Colorado ZR2 with just the Tech and safety pkg is the deal of the century
Its junk lol
It’s funny that people only complain about Taco having a turbo engine. These GM turbos will be craptastic.
@@christopherkozal7987exactly!!! What gives! Makes no sense other than just jealous cry babies lol
The level of denile amongst these new tacoma drivers is diabolical.
You mean "denial"? You can buy a horse and buggy, take a bus, jog, or call one of us Tacoma owners for a ride. I am not giving my reviews based off a conclusion being a keyboard warrior like most do. I own the vehicle and give feedback from actual experience. Last I checked anybody that admires a specific purchase of any brand could be called a fanboy, right?
Denile is a river in Africa I believe, the Tacoma is native to the region.
@@Jay-nc7vk you can deflect all you want. The reality is that the new Tacomas are exponentially less reliable, just like most new Toyota and Lexus products, and that's setting aside the QC issues they have with the transmission that has resulted in a class action lawsuit. I love Toyota and Lexus but their competitive edge was antiquated, tried and true drivetrains- those days are gone. Get the outgoing models while you can and let some other guy pay to beta test. If you care about reliability then you're not buying their new vehicles right now, plain and simple.
@@Slythey QC is suffering in all brands. It's matter of choice who you want to trust in a brand. Automobiles are like appliances. Not made to last forever like the "old" days. I dont mind buying new vehicles when the situation is right. I dont hold onto them forever. I never finance over 5 years and pay them faster than the life of the loan. My new 2024 Tacoma was only financed at $31,000 out of the door after the paperwork. I will have it paid off before the warranty expires. I am not worried about the truck in my situation. To each his own.
Packages in Canada are terrible. TRD Off-road Manual starts at $53k, the auto is $56k and to get sway bar disconnect is bundled in an $11k package for non hybrid. Trailhunter and TRD Pro are only paired to the hybrid 🥱 and are $30-35k packages in the $51k base TRD Off-road
Total garbage. Turbo 4 banger , questionable reliability, built in Mexico, crazy pricing ! Fail on Toyota’s part !
100% correct
Half of our modern infrastructure has been built by Mexicans. What’s your point? 😂
Toyota been making vehicles in Mexico since 2004. My 3rd gen Tacoma was made in Mexico and no issues.
lol
You’re just angry you can’t afford it so your lashing out
to call a 45k truck garbage is so absolute out of pocket. if you could actually afford one you wouldn’t be complaining.
For anyone that cares, here is a good pricing comparison. I took delivery of my Tacoma in April 2023. My Tacoma is long bed, TRD Off Road with premium / advanced technology package. This package gives you a loaded interior, leather, heated seats, moon roof, etc. It also had the useless predator steps and bed step Toyota add ons. The MSRP was $48,335. Told the dealer I didn't want the add ons, so they gladly deducted the $679 for predator steps and $300 for bed step. This is in the Rochester NY area if it matters.
Yep, big difference in 2023 than now, in 2024. 2024 is the year of high prices in all brands.
When people say oh it’s garbage because made in Mexico, it’s turbo 4 bangers or whatever reason in their mind, Tacoma is still a number one midsize king. It’s all personal opinion and personal bias. I see that the ones made in the USA have the same quality issues or worst. In my opinion, no other brands can make better quality than Toyota, and last as long as Toyota. The only thing I disappointed about Tacoma is its price. That’s way too over priced.
Well said, sir.
It's not bias, it's reality from people who actually know about cars and don't pay to beta test poor QC, slop release vehicles. Toyota Mexico isn't quality. Toyota US isn't quality. Toyota Japan was quality and they're still firing out defective V35a engines for 3 model years and counting. The only Toyota worth buying is manufactured in Japan and now everyone with a brain needs to wait 2-3 more years before considering purchasing a new model Toyota or Lexus.
I have had my 2024 tacoma TRD off-road for over 8 months now and 20,000 miles I drive every day off-road on road the 4 cylinder turbo engine is so impressive i love it the more I drive it the tacoma is so much better then my 3rd generation tacoma
Keep us updated on your progress with the truck.
Doubt that😂
@Jay-nc7vk okay I will i love the 2024 tacoma
@ronsmith8434 I'm very very impressed with the 2024 tacoma the best pickup I have had in my 52 years of driving pickups
@@davidchenette1091 Appreciate your feedback my friend the difference and you as you are mature fellow with a lot of experience a lot of these naysayers here are young peeps most of them living in the basement still answering to their moms 🫣🙄
50k can get a Chevy Colorado zr2. A much better deal
Then buy the Chevy. I've been finding TRD Off-road Tacoma's for $43k without the luxury options.
Not anywhere around the states I live and 43k for a off-road with nothing in it is still a absolute rip off. I got my 3rd gen TRD off road fully loaded for 42k a few years back. I have driven the 2024s and there is absolutely nothing better about it
@@kmb957nothing in the SE at that price
I'm not buying this 24 Tacoma, but I'm not buying a Chevy either! Lol
Base starts at $48k. $44k after dealer discount.
The ZR2 is definitely a better truck for a better price
I had a 2019. Worst automotive vehicle ownership experience to date. The lack of QDR was astounding. I’m glad it’s someone else’s problem now. I couldn’t imagine spending more for these new ones. Maybe I’d have a different perspective if my 2019 didn’t sour my view of the product and brand. It was my first Toyota. I’m having a difficult time considering the brand again.
No V6, no deal!
Like you said, 50k and they still give you cloth seats. That’s one of the biggest issues I have with these models. Why can’t you give softex seats for a premium truck? Why does the passenger not get power seats in a 50k+ truck
Because when you multiply the extra wiring harness to run to the passenger seat times 200,000 trucks produced per year, Toyota can save themselves millions of bucks not giving you power seats. The bean counters run that company now.
I own a 2024 Tacoma Off-Road with the upgrade package. I averaged 25 mpg last week driving on the highway. I use Castrol Edge Extended oil in mine with the factory OEM filters with no issues. I love the technology and the 14-inch information screen. The 8-speed tranny makes a huge difference as compared to the 3rd generation. I dont mind the turbo on the 2.4L. Toyota tested the turbo 70,000 hours and placed a commercial grade turbo on the 2024 Tacomas to meet the hefty demands. I am not worried about it one bit. I work with people who have over 150,000 miles on their OEM turbos using their work cars and no issues. Just keep up with the oil changes every 5000 miles for the turbo.
I haven’t seen many, if any, negative reviews by actual owners. Wonder why that is….
@@joeimbesi5361 Only thing I can pick on is some engine noise when the rpm's climb up to 2000 rpm. Some models do not have a hood liner. I ordered a hood liner from Toyota it cut the noise by 50% once installed.
It’s just people that are angry that they have been priced out. It’s pathetic
I'd take the last model with the naturally aspirated 4.0L over any of these newer "tiny turbos", for the long haul. This new Taco might make for a great lease, but I won't spend that much on a purchase. Personally, that's my primary deal breaker.
That “might” is the variable that keeps me away. Then you add the price. I have a 2007 FJ 164k on it but… now I see it as a Toyota with the bullet proof V-6 that you can’t get anymore so, I’ll just keep servicing it and wait to see if that “might” in reliability turns out to be “will”. If the new administration dials back the emissions/electric standards, maybe we’ll see a V-6 again 🤷♂️
ZR2 can be had for $44k after discounts.
A better truck for the money
So go buy that and stop watching Tacoma content. U can’t afford it. And you’re bitter as heck.
Good luck to you! 😂
I think, like literally every other vehicle ever, the first couple years of a redesign will have it's bugs and get worked out eventually.
Sales are very solid Ford Tacoma second half of this year apparently they’ve ramped up production. Tundras well on track for a second best sales year ever in its history
Ben, please get your story right! These trucks are overpriced, built with very cheap materials and have poorly designed/ unreliable powertrains. Getting the use of two Toyota demonstration trucks seems to have made you to walk back your previous remarks.
Just rented one. Engine was super noisy, road and wind noise completely unacceptable. The truck felt so cheap. There’s no way in the world I would ever buy one!
Love the mountains in the foreground 🌄🏔
These trucks haven't really been around long to know how these materials will hold up over time. I'm hopeful though, as I'll be in the market for a 6th gen 4runner in a year or two to replace my 5th gen.
Love these 4th gen.. 👍🏼 just to add to your comment . Turbo operates well in the cold . .
“Efficient” with worse mpg. That makes no sense.
I had a 17 limited and traded it in for a new 23 off road loaded for $44k. Could have got a 24 but no way I’d trust it. Not for reliability. Plus same price, I’m only at an SR5. I’d need to drop another $10-12k to get my same truck in 24 model.
No V6 and to much good bye toyota 😂😂😂😂😂
2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD OFF-ROAD Package Double Cab Half Cab Long Bed 4X4!
Toyotas are reliable, Toyota is one of the best manufacturer out there one of the top 3 compared to General Motors and GMC
Yeah, Toyotas with antiquated drivetrains are reliable- not the new ones.
Gas tank is too small
Lol, the more the price drops the better it looks
This Truck is good!
We have ford f150. Raptor gmc
I test drove one and it felt incredibly small and cramped
THOSE FENDER flares look terrible and cheap ! I guess the painted ones look better but it would have been great if they were part of the fenders not added on
Too expensive
Ben, TFL bought their 24 Tacoma under the allocation system. Can anyone order a Tacoma using Toyota web site? Southeast Toyota Distributer only sells Tacoma under dealer allocation. Sorry to see you losing your objectivity, might have to tune out of your reviews.
A quick search on autotrader and you can find pretty much exactly what you want.
5k too much for a 4 cylinder turbo imho.
2025 Toyota Tacoma looks better good looking truck
Be honest.
You are becoming a copy paste like almost all other car criticts.
This truck not sold in Saudi Arabia
You have the hillux..
@ I heat Toyota man
You guys are neutered by CAFE and government regulations, which is why you guys actually get to drive Toyotas that the rest of the world wants.
Those trucks suck! GMC Denali canyon same price way nicer
the GMC denali is junk compared to the Toyota Tacoma
Sorry but what a boring truck and in that price range, you have to be off your rocker to feel good about it
People are bitter cuz they can’t afford them. If these were the same prices as the 3rd gens all theee whiners would be singing the new truck praises to high heaven. This is just envy and anger they have been priced out. These people are entitled. They think Toyota owes them a truck that they can afford. That’s not how the world works. Very ugly to see.
Good points.
They're just isn't a justification for the huge price jump