Obviously I'm replying a year after this vid was uploaded, but I have version 1.8 on my phone (I'm in France, the app's in EN) and it seems to be doing everything that you showed the Indian app doing, so I guess they wheeled it out to everybody, all the new, better features. Thanks for bringing this to the fore, it was nice to see the two apps in contrast. Cheers, mate, and Ride Safe too !
Maaaannnn... as a Royal Enfield customer who isn't in India, I actually find this to be pretty contemptible. I already disliked the unreliability and lack of functionality with Tripper, and to find out their foreign customers are getting a sub-par version of the app is ridiculous. Pretty annoying how they push it so hard as a selling point when it doesn't even work properly. I've also noticed it's slow to give directions, and when you're in an area full of small suburban blocks it's often unclear as to which street you should be turning into, so it's definitely more suited to countryside riding. However, as an additional complication, my phone carrier tends to have less coverage in regional parts of my country, so if my Tripper suddenly disconnects when I'm in the middle of nowhere then I'm screwed if I need to bring up the route on the dash again. As it currently stands, I experience a disconnection between the app and the module on about half of the rides where I use Tripper.
As it uses Google maps, may it help if you downloaded the section that you are going to ride before setting out, that way it doesn't rely on a phone signal, just the GPS? I have found that has helped me in locations where mobile coverage is spotty using Google maps, I've yet to try it in combination with the tripper, but I will try it when I visit those areas again.
I followed your instructions and installed and registered the Indian version 7.7 - many thanks for your advice. It was not too difficult to get a free SMS number though I soon found out that this method is very popular and in high demand. But it can be done. As for the Tripper, I live in rural Ireland where a lack of internet data access is common. Without internet the Tripper is useless. I might as well use Google Maps or other app like Sygic on my phone that use offline maps and navigation. Pity about Tripper - it could have been good with some more thought put into it.
glad to hear that you managed to install it. In google maps you can download a map for offline use, not sure if that can't be done for tripper as it uses Gmaps
@@UncleLongbeard No it cannot - without internet, the RE app does not run (or stops if there had been a connection that has failed), rendering Tripper useless. Crazy really in my opinion.
All the review Ive seen did not use this tripper in a metropolitan city where the intersections are overlapping and are not as simple as a left or right turn, what if there was 4 lanes split?
It would be relatively fine as it clearly says which lane to use. That ring road with switching lanes is one of the most complicated situations you can find anywhere. Not the best device for sth like that but still doable.
UPDATE!!! there is a new app update for the tripper available which adds all the important functionalities from the Indian version I described here - so do not bother with that procedure. Otherwise the review stays correct
I was using google maps to intercom solution as well but eventually I missed a road here and there so in a bit more dense areas it's good to see some directions as well. Also intercom solution is not perfect when you ride a bike in a company of others and someone talks while you listen to the directions :D
@@UncleLongbeard Yes that is an issue, my intercom actually cancel my intercom to intercome connection sometimes when using the phone at the same time..😅
Software updates using the app will be easy. The Indian version (targeting their primary market) version is better. I'm sure RE will release updates as they learn more from reviews like this!
Well, the video has barely 2400 views at the moment so I doubt it's enough to push the big company. The only solution is to complain a lot... and share it wherever possible
Although it is more discrete than a full satnav, and really suits a bike like yours, or other retros, I think a dedicated proper satnav with map is far more useful in 99% of situations. Nice stick fix! :D Is good that the update worked mostly though.
I know that dedicated nav or even phone with google maps is a better and more functional solution but I hate the look of that on a classic ;) And not having that resembles me a bit of an old school riding with a map :D I know, I'm a weirdo... 😂😂👍
@@UncleLongbeard My "adventure" on the Aprilia, I planned on my PC, but both my dedicated satnavs failed me on the actual ride, so had to map read via my phone... it worked well... but probably added at least an hour to the ride vs if the satnavs had worked properly. I think I am going to look for a single satnav that can run GPX files as well as road turn by turn, as currently, I have to run 2 separate navs as the green lanes don't work on the turn by turn Garmin
i wish the tripper could just display your speed. i'd install one just for that. i tried out the india app and while it seems a bit better, the bugs are so annoying. they also need to hire a WAY better designer cause the app looks like it was made 10 years ago.
Technically it can display whatever the dev wants... speed measured by your phone for sure ;) I would say though - they really need to hire some better developers. Even IMO India app is not that crap anymore, it still could be way way better.
it does that as well but the numbers are a tad bit small and don't know about you but I'm not really focusing on small digit on a screen when riding ;) Also that was a bit difficult because it was switching from miles to yards to feet which is still a bit confusing to me. Now I switched the whole system to metric which should work better for me.
I'm in the US, is there a way to get directions filtering out interstate routes, as shortest fastest route is not the directions I want and I would guess most people don't.
don't know about US version, but it more or less gives you the same directions as google maps. You can choose to avoid highways or toll roads and that's about it
For me it never lost itself but on the other hand I haven't been in remote areas since I got it. I assume it will keep the directions but there could be a problem with rerouting
I'm in Canada and I concur - it's crap. I was going to take the Tripper off. If I can figure out how to get the Indian version that'd be great - now I know. Many thanks
My Scram came with the tripper. Hasn't worked once. Phone didn't connect although it managed to connect to everything else with no problems. Downloaded the app for a new phone. App froze immediately and is unusable. Mentioned it to RE dealer but they weren't interested. Oddly it connects to my phone randomly about once per week! Junk!
Dear Uncle - Interesting video which I found accidentally whilst looking for information about audio instructions on the Tripper. I wasn't expecting audio when I bought the bike (a Himalayan) but it seems that I have it! It's very rapid so unintelligible ie sounds a bit like Mickey mouse! So any thoughts you have on that would be appreciated. In the meantime I'm going with your advice ie try to install version 7.3. Thanks Mike
I don't think it's valid anymore. There was the update of the tripper app in the meantime so I don't know what is the actual version. As far as I know the current version has sorted all the issues I was talking here. Another thing is the voice instructions. I believe that the sounds depend on the google map version you have on your phone. So if you have older phone it can be a bit... outdated
It would be nice if you could explain how to download the Indian version to a U.K. phone and either a India number or how to find one we all could use? 😉😉😉😀
A bit more explanation and step by step tutorial is in the description. We can't all use the same number unfortunately, so that's a problem. You need to find working one yourself ;)
you need to search for apk file yourself. I won't give you a link as each of those apk files can be a bit shady version and you're doing it on your own risk. You can search on apkdl.in for example, but it's your own risk when you install an app from such an unknown place
Coventry ring road! You chose the most difficult road in the UK to drive on. Poor Tripper Navigation, I wouldn't blame the tripper, nor yourself. If you don't live in Coventry and use the manic race track every day it will give you a heart attack trying to use it, sat nav or no sat nav.
Has anyone switched from indian version of app back to local region one? I think it updates firmware on the tripper unit itself then youare stuck with indian version of the app forever. Not a big deal just calling it out
@UncleLongbeard interesting, when I use the Indian version it works fine but if I use apac app it fails to connect now. When the tripper starts up it says version 12
I think most of those dedicated sat navs are not perfect, but this one was "made with google" so I hoped for google maps sort of experience. Which partially is, but not in the bloody eu app...
@@yorkshirebiker1293 Tbh I don't know what are the savings there as with the Indian version of the app which works well in the UK it's a decent product overall... but the version on the British play store is ... don't know how to call that really.
Beeline could be a reasonable choice... if it would cost 50-70 quid. For now it's really overpriced limited screen with much less functions than average smartwatch... I think galaxy watch 3 is cheaper, and even navigation on that will have more to offer...
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@@UncleLongbeard it's a guidance system. Less is more... Except if you are keen to see and read notifications In a tiny screen while driving. It is also better prepared (I would assume) for vibrations. Also has 30 days battery.
@ I agree but not for such a crazy price. It's just a simple screen with bluetooth and battery operating Google maps, nothing more. For the same price you can buy galaxy 4 smartwatch and it will do all the same: show you simple guidance but it will also show you a map if needed and measure your blood pressure... Not saying that I like a smartwatch on a bike, just emphasize how ridiculous the beeline price is. 70 pounds is absolute max what it should cost imo.
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@@UncleLongbeard ok...I bought mine one year before launch with 40% discount as a pair with a friend... Agree the price is steep...
Obviously I'm replying a year after this vid was uploaded, but I have version 1.8 on my phone (I'm in France, the app's in EN) and it seems to be doing everything that you showed the Indian app doing, so I guess they wheeled it out to everybody, all the new, better features. Thanks for bringing this to the fore, it was nice to see the two apps in contrast. Cheers, mate, and Ride Safe too !
I know, I should delete that video as it's outdated really
Thank you, sincerely.
I have installed it, got a friend in India to help me get the code. It is may times better than the UK version.
Brilliant. Glad I could help
Any chance you could also help me get this Indian Version and a number to register?
Good to see you got it installed. Been in touch with the Royal Enfield Dev Team big updates on the way. :)
Good to hear that mate. They ignored it a tad bit too long ;)
When? 🤔
@@UncleLongbeard after getting the app how do you pair it ?
@@kevincraig8257 it more or less should tell you in the app. But have you read the pinned comment first here?
@@UncleLongbeard thanks
Maaaannnn... as a Royal Enfield customer who isn't in India, I actually find this to be pretty contemptible. I already disliked the unreliability and lack of functionality with Tripper, and to find out their foreign customers are getting a sub-par version of the app is ridiculous. Pretty annoying how they push it so hard as a selling point when it doesn't even work properly. I've also noticed it's slow to give directions, and when you're in an area full of small suburban blocks it's often unclear as to which street you should be turning into, so it's definitely more suited to countryside riding.
However, as an additional complication, my phone carrier tends to have less coverage in regional parts of my country, so if my Tripper suddenly disconnects when I'm in the middle of nowhere then I'm screwed if I need to bring up the route on the dash again. As it currently stands, I experience a disconnection between the app and the module on about half of the rides where I use Tripper.
Yes, it's all ridiculous. On a plus side it can work better...
As it uses Google maps, may it help if you downloaded the section that you are going to ride before setting out, that way it doesn't rely on a phone signal, just the GPS? I have found that has helped me in locations where mobile coverage is spotty using Google maps, I've yet to try it in combination with the tripper, but I will try it when I visit those areas again.
howdy?,Uncle-omg. amazing channel-have a good day, ;))
Discovering that app upgrade is a deal changer. Now I think the navigator is worth a look -- if I can only get rid of the RE logo on its face.
I'm pretty sure it can be covered somehow but I don't care really ;)
I followed your instructions and installed and registered the Indian version 7.7 - many thanks for your advice. It was not too difficult to get a free SMS number though I soon found out that this method is very popular and in high demand. But it can be done. As for the Tripper, I live in rural Ireland where a lack of internet data access is common. Without internet the Tripper is useless. I might as well use Google Maps or other app like Sygic on my phone that use offline maps and navigation. Pity about Tripper - it could have been good with some more thought put into it.
glad to hear that you managed to install it. In google maps you can download a map for offline use, not sure if that can't be done for tripper as it uses Gmaps
@@UncleLongbeard No it cannot - without internet, the RE app does not run (or stops if there had been a connection that has failed), rendering Tripper useless. Crazy really in my opinion.
@@sligoquadcopter oh, that's crap indeed
All the review Ive seen did not use this tripper in a metropolitan city where the intersections are overlapping and are not as simple as a left or right turn, what if there was 4 lanes split?
It would be relatively fine as it clearly says which lane to use. That ring road with switching lanes is one of the most complicated situations you can find anywhere. Not the best device for sth like that but still doable.
UPDATE!!! there is a new app update for the tripper available which adds all the important functionalities from the Indian version I described here - so do not bother with that procedure. Otherwise the review stays correct
Nice review! I'm using google maps call outs from the phone to my intercoms.
Awesome stick fix as well!😂👌
I was using google maps to intercom solution as well but eventually I missed a road here and there so in a bit more dense areas it's good to see some directions as well. Also intercom solution is not perfect when you ride a bike in a company of others and someone talks while you listen to the directions :D
@@UncleLongbeard Yes that is an issue, my intercom actually cancel my intercom to intercome connection sometimes when using the phone at the same time..😅
Liked for the stick tool alone :D
I am a genius engineer, I know :D
Software updates using the app will be easy. The Indian version (targeting their primary market) version is better. I'm sure RE will release updates as they learn more from reviews like this!
Well, the video has barely 2400 views at the moment so I doubt it's enough to push the big company. The only solution is to complain a lot... and share it wherever possible
Great! Where can I pick up the cable and connector
Although it is more discrete than a full satnav, and really suits a bike like yours, or other retros, I think a dedicated proper satnav with map is far more useful in 99% of situations. Nice stick fix! :D
Is good that the update worked mostly though.
I know that dedicated nav or even phone with google maps is a better and more functional solution but I hate the look of that on a classic ;) And not having that resembles me a bit of an old school riding with a map :D I know, I'm a weirdo... 😂😂👍
@@UncleLongbeard My "adventure" on the Aprilia, I planned on my PC, but both my dedicated satnavs failed me on the actual ride, so had to map read via my phone... it worked well... but probably added at least an hour to the ride vs if the satnavs had worked properly. I think I am going to look for a single satnav that can run GPX files as well as road turn by turn, as currently, I have to run 2 separate navs as the green lanes don't work on the turn by turn Garmin
@@HippoDrones I bet with green lanes it's a different story, unfortunately I know nothing about it
@@UncleLongbeard yup, annoyingly most regular satnavs don't recognise green lanes!
Really helpful!
i wish the tripper could just display your speed. i'd install one just for that. i tried out the india app and while it seems a bit better, the bugs are so annoying. they also need to hire a WAY better designer cause the app looks like it was made 10 years ago.
Technically it can display whatever the dev wants... speed measured by your phone for sure ;) I would say though - they really need to hire some better developers. Even IMO India app is not that crap anymore, it still could be way way better.
Instead of colors and blinking it would probably better just to show numeric distance until the turn, like google maps does
it does that as well but the numbers are a tad bit small and don't know about you but I'm not really focusing on small digit on a screen when riding ;) Also that was a bit difficult because it was switching from miles to yards to feet which is still a bit confusing to me. Now I switched the whole system to metric which should work better for me.
great video!
Thank you sir ;)
Nice video
It would be nice if you could supply the info of how to get the India version on a U.K. phone, and phone number we all could use?😉😉😉😀
I'm in the US, is there a way to get directions filtering out interstate routes, as shortest fastest route is not the directions I want and I would guess most people don't.
don't know about US version, but it more or less gives you the same directions as google maps. You can choose to avoid highways or toll roads and that's about it
Once you have loaded your Tripper up,
Can you ride without mobile data on?
On your Mobile phone?
Cheers Paul
For me it never lost itself but on the other hand I haven't been in remote areas since I got it. I assume it will keep the directions but there could be a problem with rerouting
@@UncleLongbeard thanks 👍
I'm in Canada and I concur - it's crap. I was going to take the Tripper off. If I can figure out how to get the Indian version that'd be great - now I know. Many thanks
great I could help. It's a pity that a good piece of equipment is ruined by a terrible software and bad managment
My Scram came with the tripper. Hasn't worked once. Phone didn't connect although it managed to connect to everything else with no problems. Downloaded the app for a new phone. App froze immediately and is unusable. Mentioned it to RE dealer but they weren't interested. Oddly it connects to my phone randomly about once per week! Junk!
As every electronics can be broken. Your dealer is shit
Do you think that you just need to become more accustomed to the symbols of the unit and how it functions before it becomes second nature?
Might be that.
I am curious if the Indian version has a dimmer setting as the UK version even with the night setting on is way too bright.
It is a few versions further now but the version I tested didn't have it.
Dear Uncle - Interesting video which I found accidentally whilst looking for information about audio instructions on the Tripper. I wasn't expecting audio when I bought the bike (a Himalayan) but it seems that I have it! It's very rapid so unintelligible ie sounds a bit like Mickey mouse! So any thoughts you have on that would be appreciated. In the meantime I'm going with your advice ie try to install version 7.3. Thanks Mike
I don't think it's valid anymore. There was the update of the tripper app in the meantime so I don't know what is the actual version. As far as I know the current version has sorted all the issues I was talking here. Another thing is the voice instructions. I believe that the sounds depend on the google map version you have on your phone. So if you have older phone it can be a bit... outdated
@@UncleLongbeard thanks, I'll try re-installing Google maps. Does the sound work ok on yours?
@@mikedowning4603yep, sound go from my phone to intercom. Phone being Google pixel have rather fresh software and good voice
It would be nice if you could explain how to download the Indian version to a U.K. phone and either a India number or how to find one we all could use? 😉😉😉😀
A bit more explanation and step by step tutorial is in the description. We can't all use the same number unfortunately, so that's a problem. You need to find working one yourself ;)
@@UncleLongbeard thank you I did not spot that
@@alistairbarclay3116 no worries
Where did you get the tripper version 7.3 ?
you need to search for apk file yourself. I won't give you a link as each of those apk files can be a bit shady version and you're doing it on your own risk. You can search on apkdl.in for example, but it's your own risk when you install an app from such an unknown place
Coventry ring road! You chose the most difficult road in the UK to drive on. Poor Tripper Navigation, I wouldn't blame the tripper, nor yourself. If you don't live in Coventry and use the manic race track every day it will give you a heart attack trying to use it, sat nav or no sat nav.
True 🤣👍
Has anyone switched from indian version of app back to local region one? I think it updates firmware on the tripper unit itself then youare stuck with indian version of the app forever. Not a big deal just calling it out
I'm back on the UK version as they upgraded it. There was nothing wrong with Indian one though
@UncleLongbeard interesting, when I use the Indian version it works fine but if I use apac app it fails to connect now. When the tripper starts up it says version 12
Not perfect but for the money, i've bought a new gold wing and that nav not brilliant considering the price difference in bikes
I think most of those dedicated sat navs are not perfect, but this one was "made with google" so I hoped for google maps sort of experience. Which partially is, but not in the bloody eu app...
@@UncleLongbeard i know what your saying but probably built down to a price
@@yorkshirebiker1293 Tbh I don't know what are the savings there as with the Indian version of the app which works well in the UK it's a decent product overall... but the version on the British play store is ... don't know how to call that really.
@@UncleLongbeard missed the bit about 2 versions it not good if one is better than the other
Good review of the system, and not that much moaning, you ill? 🤣🤣
I'm pretty sure some people will still consider that as moaning :D
I used it one time and then I stopped FOREVER 😅
It's not a bad idea at all, just the software is a bummer
I was wondering....how many whisky's you have drinking before you go riding 😂👍
never enough ;)
Beeline.
Beeline could be a reasonable choice... if it would cost 50-70 quid. For now it's really overpriced limited screen with much less functions than average smartwatch... I think galaxy watch 3 is cheaper, and even navigation on that will have more to offer...
@@UncleLongbeard it's a guidance system. Less is more... Except if you are keen to see and read notifications In a tiny screen while driving. It is also better prepared (I would assume) for vibrations. Also has 30 days battery.
@ I agree but not for such a crazy price. It's just a simple screen with bluetooth and battery operating Google maps, nothing more. For the same price you can buy galaxy 4 smartwatch and it will do all the same: show you simple guidance but it will also show you a map if needed and measure your blood pressure... Not saying that I like a smartwatch on a bike, just emphasize how ridiculous the beeline price is. 70 pounds is absolute max what it should cost imo.
@@UncleLongbeard ok...I bought mine one year before launch with 40% discount as a pair with a friend... Agree the price is steep...
@ I would take one as well with 40% off... ;)