Good breakdown Mark, I'm surprised you didn't show Guerrero's baserunning decision in the bottom of the 13th on second base. Schneider lined out (again) and Vlad was in-between running and staying and couldn't tag up because of it. Luckily it didn't end up mattering but our announcer Buck Martinez was really giving it to our guys for these immature mistakes we made that game.
@@TreatzTMA I think it's Buck's last season behind the mic. He's been doing this for a long time, he's in his 70s, and he beat cancer. The guy has earned the right to retire to a nice villa somewhere and take it easy.
The time difference between is negligible, its that close. When you account for the catchers movement to make the tag i imagine having to lean and try and swipe a guys arm sliding on the outside of the base path more than makes up for the time difference, not to mention its a much harder tag.
The one thing that I know as someone who watches the jays just about every day is that vladdy's fundamentals are.... suspect... there have been half a dozen instances (three I believe in the last two games) where he just has not been there. But hey.. he hit 3 homers so I guess this works for him?
He’s honestly wrong on the Varsho non-slide. Buck Martinez and Dan Shulman both praised Varsho’s decision to run thru it cuz sliding would’ve made it much closer on that play.
I've seen Vladdy do exactly what Mark is talking about on many occasions, Vladdy is always into the game. I just think in that instance Vladdy was positive that with Varsho's speed, it wasn't going to be close.
@@robertdiprospero1776 well, he's probably picking the non-obvious stuff cuz he assumes people who actually want to learn already know the obvious stuff
❤ y do i save all mlb network videos because this man hosting is the only thing these baseball kids listen too i got this huge tv and a community hall for juveniles come as they want alot cant wait to here his voice
the Blue Jays have been playing really sloppy baseball this year. And for a team that is struggling at the plate this is one of the reasons they are fighting for that last wildcard spot. I can't help but question whether this is poor coaching or something else.
First off remember all of the players in MLB are the 0.5 % who are good enough to get there. Are they then perfect? No and never will be as they are human and make mistakes. That is the beauty of it all.
Varsho didn't slide because he's moving a mile a minute, dude is going to get the home plate faster on his feet vs sliding. If he slid he would've also made a bigger target for a tag. The catcher could've got his foot before his hand reached the plate.
I've noticed that elite defensive outfielders will always make the first step to the left or right. I think that's the biggest difference between an ok outfielder and a great one. If you feel comfortable moving left or right first, do that. Otherwise, it's best to take a step back.
you missed the play that vlad should a tagged up in extra innings 0 out on second base and babe hit 1 to center field that the guy had to lay out and vlad was half way to 3rd
As an Orioles fan I'm glad we have Brandon Hyde. I can't believe there are so many people in our fanbase that doubt him when talented but poorly coached teams like the Jays and Padres exist.
Yeah the Jays were lucky to get a win that day. It was only Boston doing the same mental errors that allowed the Jays to win. It could of easily gone the other way.
Its so hard to get heads around to see dump plays by professional players 1-4 bullet points discussed here. All their years of training should make them at high level of baseball in MLB; with no out inning, you should go back to base touch and run. Dont just stand at home plate and watch 3rd base runner, etc.
does anyone think that with the new rules of the catcher not being able to block the plate that maybe running through home will become almost better instead of sliding. you know bc its marginally faster to run through then slide
True. As a Jays fan, I don’t remember Sox being so bad or making so many mistakes. Toronto was begging them to take that extra inning game but Boston refused
Same as strike three calls, was put in my head from 8-9 yrs old never leave third strike in umps hands, faul anything close off get your pitch or take a walk,jays watch way to many called third strike
The failure of the jays this season is all down to basics an fundamentals! Even when they win they make it much more difficult than it should be! It has been very painful to watch this team knowing how good they SHOULD be if they executed correctly!
As a Blue Jays Fan I wish Mark DeRosa was coaching the Jays
hey you never know when john gets exposed this october he could get a look
He’ll be coaching someone soon, I bet
Couldn't have said it better myself, agreed.
He got some experience w a stacked Team USA. Only lost to the best team in the world.
YES
This is GREAT stuff Mark DeRosa. I find "teachable" moments in every game I watch. These guys need to do better. Keep on telling them so.
Didn't even mention Vladdy not tagging to 3rd
This “teachable moments” series is PRICELESS! Literally invaluable wisdom just dropped casually…
Good breakdown Mark, I'm surprised you didn't show Guerrero's baserunning decision in the bottom of the 13th on second base. Schneider lined out (again) and Vlad was in-between running and staying and couldn't tag up because of it. Luckily it didn't end up mattering but our announcer Buck Martinez was really giving it to our guys for these immature mistakes we made that game.
Buck’s not holding back lately!!
@@TreatzTMA I think it's Buck's last season behind the mic. He's been doing this for a long time, he's in his 70s, and he beat cancer. The guy has earned the right to retire to a nice villa somewhere and take it easy.
There was a lot of bad baseball in that game. Those plays weren't the only ones
That Varsho play is probably faster to the plate than sliding
The Jays commentators were saying that running and not sliding was the right thing to do. If he slid, he would have been out.
The time difference between is negligible, its that close. When you account for the catchers movement to make the tag i imagine having to lean and try and swipe a guys arm sliding on the outside of the base path more than makes up for the time difference, not to mention its a much harder tag.
Vlad wasn't paying attention & almost missed the home plate on the gm winning run.
young players in Jays need to learn these baserunning 101 knowledge again
The one thing that I know as someone who watches the jays just about every day is that vladdy's fundamentals are.... suspect... there have been half a dozen instances (three I believe in the last two games) where he just has not been there. But hey.. he hit 3 homers so I guess this works for him?
the entire team has made a lot of fundamental errors this year.
He’s very young but I know what you mean vladdy has got to clean up the small parts of his game
Yeah even the Apple TV commentators were picking apart his lack of fundamentals
He’s honestly wrong on the Varsho non-slide. Buck Martinez and Dan Shulman both praised Varsho’s decision to run thru it cuz sliding would’ve made it much closer on that play.
Excellent piece D-Ro. Fundamentals wins games.
DeRosa just awesome how he doin it 👍 perfect guy for this tv job 👍
I also locked in during this series. Huge Jays fan here.
You forgot to mention Vladdy not tagging on the last inning.
I've seen Vladdy do exactly what Mark is talking about on many occasions, Vladdy is always into the game. I just think in that instance Vladdy was positive that with Varsho's speed, it wasn't going to be close.
Sliding is actually slower than running through the plate. The throw was good enough that sliding may have made it even closer
Yeah, there was another moment in that game that was wayy more of a “teaching moment”. Weird play to pick on Vladdy for in that spot lol.
Everybody thinks Vladdy is so great but that guy has made more base running mistakes than the rest of the team put together
@@robertdiprospero1776 well, he's probably picking the non-obvious stuff cuz he assumes people who actually want to learn already know the obvious stuff
@@user-nj9ru4ef2w Ok but both Vladdy & Varsho did nothing wrong on that play….
The Jays' baserunning has been TERRIBLE the last 5 games or so.
Unfortunately for a lot longer than the last 5 days
❤ y do i save all mlb network videos because this man hosting is the only thing these baseball kids listen too i got this huge tv and a community hall for juveniles come as they want alot cant wait to here his voice
There was even more than that. Vladdy didn’t tag up on a fly ball as well etc
the Blue Jays have been playing really sloppy baseball this year. And for a team that is struggling at the plate this is one of the reasons they are fighting for that last wildcard spot. I can't help but question whether this is poor coaching or something else.
Yeah they are tighter than last year but far too many brain cramps for a team that walks the razors edge every night
First off remember all of the players in MLB are the 0.5 % who are good enough to get there. Are they then perfect? No and never will be as they are human and make mistakes. That is the beauty of it all.
Varsho didn't slide because he's moving a mile a minute, dude is going to get the home plate faster on his feet vs sliding. If he slid he would've also made a bigger target for a tag. The catcher could've got his foot before his hand reached the plate.
Love watching dro speak baseball
If Mark DeRosa comes to Toronto as a coach.....
.....he should bring Munenori Kawasaki back for .... any reason 😅
Mune was the best. Not the best player 😂 but what an energy. Playing catch with the fans at spring training was a joy to watch
I've noticed that elite defensive outfielders will always make the first step to the left or right. I think that's the biggest difference between an ok outfielder and a great one. If you feel comfortable moving left or right first, do that. Otherwise, it's best to take a step back.
a ball hit straight at you is the hardest to judge. Maybe that's why a step to the left or right helps
you missed the play that vlad should a tagged up in extra innings 0 out on second base and babe hit 1 to center field that the guy had to lay out and vlad was half way to 3rd
As an Orioles fan I'm glad we have Brandon Hyde. I can't believe there are so many people in our fanbase that doubt him when talented but poorly coached teams like the Jays and Padres exist.
As a Jays fan I have to sadly agree. But congrats on great season for the O’s. Gonna be a dogfight with the Rays to the end.
I want to see a baseball game, where there are no base coaches.
DeRosa, put your hat in for Jays manager
At least as hitting coach!!!!!
2:32 cf should of turned to his left to take angle
how about giving kirk a green light to hit with runners on first and second instead of putting on a bunt play
Kirk takes about 15 seconds to get to 1st, they still have a chance at a triple play.
@@MadarakiFran😂😂😂
Yeah the Jays were lucky to get a win that day. It was only Boston doing the same mental errors that allowed the Jays to win. It could of easily gone the other way.
Sounds like some folks need to run some laps and think about it lol
How about those running mistakes from Kurk, Bichette and Vlady??
When I see this I wonder what seasoned pros like Kiermaier or Merrifield are thinking
Are the blue jays a young team? Because they sure do play like it
Jays have huge base running problems. All season. Coaching is a problem in toronto
Debatable whether sliding into home has better or worse outcomes for the runner, with the new catcher protecting rules being inforced
Its so hard to get heads around to see dump plays by professional players 1-4 bullet points discussed here. All their years of training should make them at high level of baseball in MLB; with no out inning, you should go back to base touch and run. Dont just stand at home plate and watch 3rd base runner, etc.
Redsox are always apart of the teaching moments smh
does anyone think that with the new rules of the catcher not being able to block the plate that maybe running through home will become almost better instead of sliding. you know bc its marginally faster to run through then slide
Red Sox could use him simply to teach fundamentals
True. As a Jays fan, I don’t remember Sox being so bad or making so many mistakes. Toronto was begging them to take that extra inning game but Boston refused
last one was a bad take, he purposely didn't slide to beat the tag lol
Varsho was out if he slid
shows how subpar jays management is
that was good!!
I thought they were going to use GOOD examples, lol
Facts
Is there trash on the floor?
2:32 horrible read and angle by cf
Same as strike three calls, was put in my head from 8-9 yrs old never leave third strike in umps hands, faul anything close off get your pitch or take a walk,jays watch way to many called third strike
Hard to say. I also see them flail too often at bad pitches and wish they would take more.
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Bring DeRo back to The Show!! New commentators are awful.
Fire Schnieder and Justin Trudeau
The Toronto Blue Jays are the worst managed team in baseball. Insane talent, selfish hitting approaches and lazy baserunning.
Brainfarts on fundamentals all year long....both players AND manager. Base running and video reviews are horrific....
Blue Jays please let go of Atkins/J. Schnieder/Mattingly/hitting coaches/3rd base coach. for the 2024 season please come into camp in shape.
the only one that I like is Pete Walker.
The failure of the jays this season is all down to basics an fundamentals!
Even when they win they make it much more difficult than it should be!
It has been very painful to watch this team knowing how good they SHOULD be if they executed correctly!
Yeah they should have, to be extremely conservative, 5 more wins at this point. Letting those slip away will eventually cost them
An finally, your probably the one who's teaching the imitation/supply gym teacher, camp counselor, of a Manager, jus rubbish...