You guys are missing a part that goes on before you put on the clutch. It is a small special ring that goes on with the higher inner part towards the clutch. You can adjust the Motor by losening 3 screws that connect it to the main frame and pull it untill you have a better fit of the belt. The belt should normally be so tight that you can grab it and get about 1 centimeter where you can pull both side towards each other. I actually have a TON of parts if you are intrested........
I had the same problem. In my case the pre owner mounted the inner pads wrong. You can mount them in two ways, and one way is wrong. Here in the video they're also mounted wrong. Just turn them around and it will work. 😉 And of course, the belt should be little bit more tighter.
Solved it? One clutch, the inner one is for the pedals to start the engine, the outer clutch is for running, in brief. Oh and the outer clutch, the driving one, that patches are definetly worn out, you need a new one. They sell this for around 8 € 10 $ in Europe.
I had this problem with my Piaggio Ciao and i couldn’t understand why but now I have solved the problem. In my case some how one of the berrings in the engine was damaged even tho i had reapleced it before. So what the berring did was that it made the axel on the crankshaft rotate in a oval shape and that some how affected the clutch. So I changed the berring and now my Ciao works fine
Hi! I have the same problem but even with the clutch ring on. (i tried it both sides and still nothing). Does someone know what i can do to make it work? Thanks
+Adrian George Can you make a video? Then upload it , send link so I can check it out.Also there is a Site called www.mopedarmy.com/ check the forum section, you could tons of info there.
Hi! I have the same problem but my pads are brand new, I have the clutch ring and my belt is not lose like in the video. Is there somebody who have a clue what I can have missed?
I figured out the issue on mine too. Apparently the previous owner changed out the pistons and when pistons are changed on a ciao it needs 3% oil mix and be driven carefully for the next 2000km. He didn't tell us this so we drove it normal with 2% oil mix. This made the engine lock up and gave us a heafty bill.
Your starter clutch pads are mounted the wrong way round (Thats logic). Remove them turn them around and it will work.And dont forget the special washer between the clutch housing and the engine. It seems that its missing at your engine..............
+Hamza Muhammad I did !! thanks to nuckelchen.blog.de It turns out I forgot to add the Clutch ring www.jmpbparts.com/vespa-ciao-si/engine-parts/clutchparts/koppelingsring-citta-ciao.html
@@jelmersteendam68 Hello, I would love to, but I would be able to do it in two weeks. I am nowhere near my moped. If you are willing to wait, I can get to it then.
yes, you must putting that on too: www.jmpbparts.com/vespa-ciao-si/engine-parts/clutchparts/koppelingsring-citta-ciao.html at 01:18 i see that you plugged ur clutch without it. thats all.
i hope youfixed it by now, but you need this ring, with the small side facing the clutch www.epcshop.nl/130-koppelingen-en-delen/137-koppeling-vespa-ciaocitta/4428-diversen-ring-met-flens-voor-koppelingen-van-vespa-bromfietsen-onder-andere-ciaocittasibravogrilloboxer.html
Hi, I think you forgot the special washer between the magnetic flywheel and clutch,.and you mustn't forget the cooling cover, it's very important. www.jmpbparts.com/vespa-ciao-si/engine-parts/various-engine/vliegwieldeksel-koelkap-citta.html
Jeshua Trejo No, I rather think this special washer to be installed in the right direction. So, starting from the casing, on the crankshaft there are: - the cam with woodruff key - slotted spring washer - The magnetic flywheel - The special washer which comes with a side dand the magnetic flywheel - The bearing tube with the bike clutch - And the rest of the clutch ... See photos .. hello. plus.google.com/+PiaggioCiaoVespaJeff/posts/Qc1WqVs35nX?pid=6158400878689518642&oid=106300477847678339992
ESPRIT MOB ahhhh!! YES !! your right !!!! thank You !! I've been looking for that part but I'd have to buy the whole clutch for $100 because I cannot find just that part separately to buy. www.treatland.tv/vespa-piaggio-olympia-complete-non-variating-clutc-p/vespa-olympia-complete-clutch.htm
Jeshua Trejo www.scootertuning.ch/Rondelle-dembrayage-moteur-Piaggio::4909.html?MODsid=56sd91hvpbidileg82em8ip5k3 Je crois que là c'est plus raisonnable, :) Les embrayages de Ciao sont très résistants et durent des dizaines d'années sans broncher... Penser à graisser les roulements et la rondelle plate et fine, derrière le Circlips. Sans déborder avec la graisse sur les pièces de friction, quoi que, tout ce remet vite d'aplomb ...
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Was it the copper-colored ring that directly pushes against the flywheel?
You guys are missing a part that goes on before you put on the clutch. It is a small special ring that goes on with the higher inner part towards the clutch. You can adjust the Motor by losening 3 screws that connect it to the main frame and pull it untill you have a better fit of the belt. The belt should normally be so tight that you can grab it and get about 1 centimeter where you can pull both side towards each other. I actually have a TON of parts if you are intrested........
You are right!! It was the special ring !
@@JeshuaTrejo hahaha glad you let me know!
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Just u want to see if the upper drum is rotating freely and there's a washer back of the clutch and the current is coming
I had the same problem. In my case the pre owner mounted the inner pads wrong. You can mount them in two ways, and one way is wrong. Here in the video they're also mounted wrong. Just turn them around and it will work. 😉 And of course, the belt should be little bit more tighter.
Hello, I have the same problem and the clutchring is installed. Can somebody help me?
Solved it? One clutch, the inner one is for the pedals to start the engine, the outer clutch is for running, in brief. Oh and the outer clutch, the driving one, that patches are definetly worn out, you need a new one. They sell this for around 8 € 10 $ in Europe.
I had this problem with my Piaggio Ciao and i couldn’t understand why but now I have solved the problem. In my case some how one of the berrings in the engine was damaged even tho i had reapleced it before. So what the berring did was that it made the axel on the crankshaft rotate in a oval shape and that some how affected the clutch. So I changed the berring and now my Ciao works fine
Hi! I have the same problem but even with the clutch ring on. (i tried it both sides and still nothing). Does someone know what i can do to make it work? Thanks
+Adrian George Can you make a video? Then upload it , send link so I can check it out.Also there is a Site called www.mopedarmy.com/ check the forum section, you could tons of info there.
The belt has to be tight, otherwise it doesn't work.
You tighten the belt by moving the engine forward.
The ring behind the cluth. Turn the small end to the clutch
Hi! I have the same problem but my pads are brand new, I have the clutch ring and my belt is not lose like in the video. Is there somebody who have a clue what I can have missed?
did you figure it out because I have that problem too
@@quavolaz6826 Yes, read my comment below. Short answer: I changed the berrings inside the engine
@@uzig17 thank you!!!!! will do
I figured out the issue on mine too. Apparently the previous owner changed out the pistons and when pistons are changed on a ciao it needs 3% oil mix and be driven carefully for the next 2000km. He didn't tell us this so we drove it normal with 2% oil mix. This made the engine lock up and gave us a heafty bill.
Your starter clutch pads are mounted the wrong way round (Thats logic). Remove them turn them around and it will work.And dont forget the special washer between the clutch housing and the engine. It seems that its missing at your engine..............
Quisiera aprender sobre esos cloché aquí desde Cuba saludos
I know
I put the ring on but still the same problem
flip the pads (sorry bad english)
your starter shoes(the inner clutch) are turning tge wrong way. Try changing them.
Hello Jeshua did you find the problem with you`r clutch? I have the exact same problem and that special washer dosen`t change a thing!
+Hamza Muhammad I did !! thanks to nuckelchen.blog.de It turns out I forgot to add the Clutch ring www.jmpbparts.com/vespa-ciao-si/engine-parts/clutchparts/koppelingsring-citta-ciao.html
@@JeshuaTrejo can you make a video where that is suppost to go
@@jelmersteendam68 Hello, I would love to, but I would be able to do it in two weeks. I am nowhere near my moped. If you are willing to wait, I can get to it then.
@@JeshuaTrejo thank you ill wait
@@jelmersteendam68 just give me one more week
yes, you must putting that on too:
www.jmpbparts.com/vespa-ciao-si/engine-parts/clutchparts/koppelingsring-citta-ciao.html
at 01:18 i see that you plugged ur clutch without it.
thats all.
nuckelchen.blog.de Thanks !! Ok where exactly does the Clutch Ring go ? How is it assembled?
Push the engine more left
I have the same fucking stupid Problem.
I found out what it was ! It was this...
www.jmpbparts.com/vespa-ciao-si/engine-parts/clutchparts/koppelingsring-citta-ciao.html
Bit late but i would definetly use a smaller belt, yours is too loose
The clutch are broke
beld
i hope youfixed it by now, but you need this ring, with the small side facing the clutch
www.epcshop.nl/130-koppelingen-en-delen/137-koppeling-vespa-ciaocitta/4428-diversen-ring-met-flens-voor-koppelingen-van-vespa-bromfietsen-onder-andere-ciaocittasibravogrilloboxer.html
Thanks !! Yea i did install that ring, now i have problems with the carburetor. :(
tell me :p
I will make a video and show you what the problem is...
How to put on that ring??
the smaller side should be towads the clutch, so the flat side is against the flywheel
I know a sulution
The belt is lose. Get a correct new belt then watch what happens live. 🤙🏽
Hi, I think you forgot the special washer between the magnetic flywheel and clutch,.and you mustn't forget the cooling cover, it's very important.
www.jmpbparts.com/vespa-ciao-si/engine-parts/various-engine/vliegwieldeksel-koelkap-citta.html
ESPRIT MOB Are you talking about the Woodruff? www.treatland.tv/vespa-piaggio-puch-e50-clutch-side-woodruff-key-p/vespa-flywheel-woodruff-key.htm
Jeshua Trejo No, I rather think this special washer to be installed in the right direction.
So, starting from the casing, on the crankshaft there are:
- the cam with woodruff key
- slotted spring washer
- The magnetic flywheel
- The special washer which comes with a side dand the magnetic flywheel
- The bearing tube with the bike clutch
- And the rest of the clutch ...
See photos .. hello.
plus.google.com/+PiaggioCiaoVespaJeff/posts/Qc1WqVs35nX?pid=6158400878689518642&oid=106300477847678339992
ESPRIT MOB ahhhh!! YES !! your right !!!! thank You !! I've been looking for that part but I'd have to buy the whole clutch for $100 because I cannot find just that part separately to buy. www.treatland.tv/vespa-piaggio-olympia-complete-non-variating-clutc-p/vespa-olympia-complete-clutch.htm
Jeshua Trejo
www.scootertuning.ch/Rondelle-dembrayage-moteur-Piaggio::4909.html?MODsid=56sd91hvpbidileg82em8ip5k3
Je crois que là c'est plus raisonnable, :)
Les embrayages de Ciao sont très résistants et durent des dizaines d'années sans broncher...
Penser à graisser les roulements et la rondelle plate et fine, derrière le Circlips. Sans déborder avec la graisse sur les pièces de friction, quoi que, tout ce remet vite d'aplomb ...
ESPRIT MOB Merci! Beaucoup
Je vais probablement obtenir ce fait cette semaine !!! So exciting !! hahaha