For anyone watching this now. At the present time M1 Macs and Monterey aren't currently supported or usable. As soon as this gets updated, I'll take this comment down
Many months on now, still liking it? There's one for sale on adverts over here and I'm seriously thinking about it! From cold, wet, dark & weirdly back to normal Ireland! ☘💪🏽👀👍🏽☘
Yeah, I’m really impressed with the uc1 and haven’t got it. My understanding on uc1 is there will be other versions of the channel strip available in the future such as a 4000. I’d really like to see softube implement the active open plugin fader jump
Great video, thanks. I would have been jumping on this setup, but then Avid updated their control App with the custom plugin mapping feature and now the S1 is a fantastic piece of hardware for controlling Pro Tools... So I'm on the fence now and waiting on SSL for providing an update on the 360 system, that could change my mind and choose their solution. UC1 has a much better aesthetic looking controller, BUT custom mapping plugins out over several S1's and/or Duck is amazing! 👍😄
The custom mapping is tempting and as long as you’re happy to sit down and map out the controls for your most used plugins this should be fine. I think coming from console one, the amount of time I save not having to map through controls and pages snd just have all channel controls in front of me regardless of the options selected in front of me has been a revelation, it’s second nature in a sense. The limitations around UC1 at the moment will be that it’s currently only supporting one channel strip at the moment which was the same for softube when I bought it. I am tempted to try hiring an s1/dock combo to do a comparison between the 2 units
@@JonConStudio the layout on the Control One is brilliant thought out and I would be happy, to get one if was better integrated in Pro Tools. The layout on the UC1 is even better, but needs to be able to control more, than just the two stock plugins. The few reports I've heard about the S1/Duck so far, is that people are pretty fast, to navigate the fewer knobs on the Dock, now that they have fully control over the placement. It's sooo easy to map the parameters and changing, and saving presets. It's only to clicks away. The knobs can have multiple functions, so one push on the screen right next to the knob, will give access to more control, like bypass or engage a sidechain filter. Program the most used functions to the 8 knobs, on the Dock and have the rest layed out on the S1, right next to the Dock. Hopefully it will make op, for not being as convenient as the Console One. The freedom to control all of your plugins and find a rutine that shoots your workflow the best. I suspect of course, that there will be room for improvement, in future updates. Not seen any real in depth reviews yet. I will also like to see, if it should be possible to integrate the UC1 with the S1 somehow. It looks like the S1 does the track follow thing, open the SSL Native strip shouldn't be a problem. Well I still prefer the aesthetics of the UF8. At some point, I will have to try them both. But we'll see about that. 😄
@@lydfar2392 I think I've had console one now for 7 years. I think Avid have no intention of opening up PT to third parties for the foreseeable as is their usual business plan to the level that would allow further integration and some of the issues on C1 appear in UC1 as well (automatic track numbering not available, fader touch selects the plugin). As it is, C1 is pretty well ingrained on my workflow and I'm used to it now, I think UC1 has managed to pick up on the one flaw most people will say C1 has and thats surrounding the lack of channel text identifiers. Honestly, I have been tempted to hire an S1 Dock Combo to compare it and see if I made the right choice. I'm looking to the future a little with the UF8, eventually I'd love to be in a position where I get a 3 bay mastering style desk and have the Uf8 plug in the furniture like the artist mixes. I wasn't a fan of the S1 lip.
Great stuff! I'm still not totally sold on the UF8 (even though I do have the UC1) mostly because I have the FaderPort 8 already. When they come out with the transport It may convince me though... Thanks! I've smashed all the smashers! Salutations from wet, grey and still sorta weirdly not back to normal Ireland! ☘️☮️🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮️☘️
What DAW are you using sonny? SSL have a plugin layer available now dedicated to the uc1 channel strip and you touch a fader and it’ll update the uc1. My layers setup on uf8 are now 1 - pro tools 2 - plugin mixer 3 -sigma Where about a in Ireland?
Fab, just up in Galway at the moment, heading back to Cardiff tomorrow. I did a short in the uf8 plugin layer when the update came out and looks really promising with the uc1.
@@JonConStudio Oh how cool! Galway's a great place outside of this nightmare. I did forget to mention I'm on Logic... I'll look up that update, thank you! 🔥🧨💪🏽🤠👍🏽🧨🔥
HA! The VS700 system was in a league of its own on the driver front, I really liked the controller for it as I was a Sonar user when it came out. I'm sure the VS700 system came out at a similar time to the nucleus didn't it? I remember considering both at one point but only wanted the controller and cake/roland wouldn't break their system up at the time so ruled it out (didn't need the converters). Dodged the bullet a little bit there. I switched to pro tools because Sonar was unstable to the point of being unusable on my system. Before the UF8 came out, the nucleus 1 was still popular as most people were using other sound cards and I just wanted the controller element of the board. The mic preamps were a bonus for nucleus users and can still be used today. The Nucleus 1 USB soundcard element was developed by a third party as I understand it and there was an issue around updates after a certain point which was then outside of SSL control. In nucleus 2, adopting the dante protocol should mean that it'll be supported for a much longer time period even after the Nuke stops getting updates from SSL but the MCU protocol is supported as is ipMIDI. Even now a 16 channel control surface which contains 2 standalone SSL preamps isn't a bad deal on the second hand market.
For me, a complete waste of time and space, I find the magic track pad and keyboard shortcuts easier and quicker, and less to go wrong. Thats just me though, I know some people do prefer them! Nice video btw.
@@michaelolgaalgar5729 cheers man , I completely get it, spent years on mouse and shortcuts and can do a ton of stuff without and I’m pretty happy in terms of the gear I have and would definitely purchase other gear ahead of this (mics, pres, acoustic treatment, Mac, pedals) It’s been useful for shortcut combos such as naming and number markers without having to think or type. Track locator has been incredibly useful but it requires a little bit of setting up and thinking ahead. In the short cut section, everything the uf8 does could be done with a stream deck though. On track pads, I’ve seen software that lets you use it as a controller, have you looked into that or using it already?
Great video, thanks a lot. Sorry if I missed a part, im not an English native speaker but is there a way that the console 1 follow the track you select on the UF8 ?
Apologies, I think I maaaaaaaay have edited it a little too quickly. Hopefully subtitles or the speed option in settings will help you. Any questions fire awaya
How are the colors on your UF8 purple when you're using it? I can't seem to find any color identifier on the controller that correlates to the channel selected. The colors of my soft keys don't change at all...
It depends on the mode you select on the UF8 and may be dependent on the DAW you use. There is a channel inspector view in pro tools that display the pan and send information across the rotary knobs and that happens when I select the channel option on the left of the UF8. What I’ve also found with using other DAWs is not all the function buttons light up so could be down to that reason. Just to be clear though, there. Isn’t an option to display the colour of the channel like you can on the S1
@@Truid Yes it would be cool, although I wouldn't hold my breath. It's something that would have to be implemented by the DAW manufacturers and supported via HUI or MCU protocols.
Hi Jon, Great video !! Tons of excellent info here. I have purchased the UF8 in high hopes that I could assign or program the faders to be dedicated. So that in Pro Tools, as I bounce around the session, the UF8 faders don’t change as I navigate through the session. I would like the 8 faders to be dedicated to my VCA’s. Do you know if there is a way to assign the faders to be dedicated ? Thank you
I put my VCAs in a folder ( “=Vca” ). There’s a navigate to track shortcut in prontools which tells prontools to scroll to the vca folder. There isn’t a way to lock these faders or have a focus fader that you might have in the S1 from avid
Have you tried turning on the “Auto select channel strip” option in plugin mixer settings (SSL 360)? It’s off by default. That works for me to have it change between channels as you touch fader/knobs. I’m using Logic. Not sure if it works in ProTools. Also, I have a UC1…I’m assuming that it’s not a UC1/SSL channel strip only thing.
Knowing pro tools, it probably won’t , it usually has the least options available compared to the other DAWS and this is down to avid and the feature requests from avid customers. I think it’s likely we’ll see ARA before updated Aax implementation for third party plugins and controllers AFAIK Console one does this too so it’s dependent on the information the plugin gets from the DAW (why some plugins can do automatic numbering and others can’t).
Hey Andrew! How are you getting on with UF8 now? Still enjoying it? I have the UC1 & I'm almost ready to sell my FaderPort 8 for the UF8... From cold, wet, dark & weirdly back to normal Ireland! ☘💪🏽👀👍🏽☘
@@JonConStudio yeah…it is old lol…but the sucker still works. I have it running on the new Mac mini m1 with Cubase 11. I have all the V pots mapped out to the PA SSL 4000 g channel strip Eq, and compressor. I know it doesn’t have the channel strip indicating lights. But I just put a long Piece of tape strip on the arm rest just like a real console and write everything in with a black sharpie. BTW…If that’s you name? That’s freaking bad ass!
Sorry I missed this comment somehow. For me with pro tools, console one fader wasn’t adding enough to the party that made me consider it or need it. With fader there’s no scribble strip. I can get by without on the C1 but would prefer some text read out above the fader. C1F Didn’t have that
I'm interested in why you chose this over an Avid S1 given that you are using PT? EUCON vs HUI is night and day....even the fader resolution is half on the UF8 and you cant even hit the values on the silkscreen like -10db and -20db. The faders are so gritty and noisy.
Looking to the future, I want a desk which integrates with rack units behind it. The s1 is a great unit, not a fan of the lip though. The uf8 does what I want it to.
@@himanperera558 how small a delay?I get a bit when recording my mix back in through the sigma but it’s mainly because Of the additional processing I have on the chain at the end. I’d recommend getting in touch with ssl support, they’re normally pretty good for stuff like this and it’s something where they may be able help more. The only time I might get delay is if I’ve got heavy plugin processing on the master bus from a limiter plugin or something which does a lot of specialised processing (noise reduction type plugins or something like auto align) but usually delay compensation will take care of this.
Don’t hold your breath on Sigma integration, ain’t gonna happen …… Sigma is total junk anyway, you need a degree in I.T. to get it working and it’s prone to just stopping working in the middle of a session.
I’m using midi and a folder in pro tools to integrate it and working fine for me. With a cat 5 switcher not had an issue at all. Only times I’ve have connectivity issues is when I’m using. VPN, that’s usually when I’m not doing work though
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For anyone watching this now. At the present time M1 Macs and Monterey aren't currently supported or usable. As soon as this gets updated, I'll take this comment down
UF8, UF1 and UC1 all working/ supported on M1 mac now (I use them every day)
Since I made this video. SSL have come out with a firmware update for the uf8 and allow compatibility within the 360 layout…. Pretty cool.
Many months on now, still liking it? There's one for sale on adverts over here and I'm seriously thinking about it!
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Yeah, at some point, I'll be getting a second unit.
Great video, started watching and heard my name mentioned. Thanks for the shout out.
Pleasure, you guys have done some bangers of videos that I’ve enjoyed and I may have borrowed an image so needed to credit the source
@@JonConStudio appreciated. Thank you.
I use UF8 & UC1 lovely workflow!
Yeah, I’m really impressed with the uc1 and haven’t got it. My understanding on uc1 is there will be other versions of the channel strip available in the future such as a 4000. I’d really like to see softube implement the active open plugin fader jump
Great video, thanks. I would have been jumping on this setup, but then Avid updated their control App with the custom plugin mapping feature and now the S1 is a fantastic piece of hardware for controlling Pro Tools... So I'm on the fence now and waiting on SSL for providing an update on the 360 system, that could change my mind and choose their solution. UC1 has a much better aesthetic looking controller, BUT custom mapping plugins out over several S1's and/or Duck is amazing! 👍😄
The custom mapping is tempting and as long as you’re happy to sit down and map out the controls for your most used plugins this should be fine. I think coming from console one, the amount of time I save not having to map through controls and pages snd just have all channel controls in front of me regardless of the options selected in front of me has been a revelation, it’s second nature in a sense. The limitations around UC1 at the moment will be that it’s currently only supporting one channel strip at the moment which was the same for softube when I bought it. I am tempted to try hiring an s1/dock combo to do a comparison between the 2 units
@@JonConStudio the layout on the Control One is brilliant thought out and I would be happy, to get one if was better integrated in Pro Tools. The layout on the UC1 is even better, but needs to be able to control more, than just the two stock plugins. The few reports I've heard about the S1/Duck so far, is that people are pretty fast, to navigate the fewer knobs on the Dock, now that they have fully control over the placement. It's sooo easy to map the parameters and changing, and saving presets. It's only to clicks away. The knobs can have multiple functions, so one push on the screen right next to the knob, will give access to more control, like bypass or engage a sidechain filter. Program the most used functions to the 8 knobs, on the Dock and have the rest layed out on the S1, right next to the Dock. Hopefully it will make op, for not being as convenient as the Console One. The freedom to control all of your plugins and find a rutine that shoots your workflow the best. I suspect of course, that there will be room for improvement, in future updates. Not seen any real in depth reviews yet. I will also like to see, if it should be possible to integrate the UC1 with the S1 somehow. It looks like the S1 does the track follow thing, open the SSL Native strip shouldn't be a problem. Well I still prefer the aesthetics of the UF8. At some point, I will have to try them both. But we'll see about that. 😄
@@lydfar2392 I think I've had console one now for 7 years. I think Avid have no intention of opening up PT to third parties for the foreseeable as is their usual business plan to the level that would allow further integration and some of the issues on C1 appear in UC1 as well (automatic track numbering not available, fader touch selects the plugin). As it is, C1 is pretty well ingrained on my workflow and I'm used to it now, I think UC1 has managed to pick up on the one flaw most people will say C1 has and thats surrounding the lack of channel text identifiers.
Honestly, I have been tempted to hire an S1 Dock Combo to compare it and see if I made the right choice. I'm looking to the future a little with the UF8, eventually I'd love to be in a position where I get a 3 bay mastering style desk and have the Uf8 plug in the furniture like the artist mixes. I wasn't a fan of the S1 lip.
Good job on this video. You should keep it up!
Cheers Barry, had a mad year with moving and fell behind a little. Plan on starting up again soon(ish).
Great stuff! I'm still not totally sold on the UF8 (even though I do have the UC1) mostly because I have the FaderPort 8 already. When they come out with the transport It may convince me though... Thanks! I've smashed all the smashers! Salutations from wet, grey and still sorta weirdly not back to normal Ireland! ☘️☮️🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮️☘️
What DAW are you using sonny? SSL have a plugin layer available now dedicated to the uc1 channel strip and you touch a fader and it’ll update the uc1. My layers setup on uf8 are now
1 - pro tools
2 - plugin mixer
3 -sigma
Where about a in Ireland?
@@JonConStudio Plugin layer? This sounds interesting, I think I have everything installed already though? I'm in Kinsale, down in County Cork!
Fab, just up in Galway at the moment, heading back to Cardiff tomorrow.
I did a short in the uf8 plugin layer when the update came out and looks really promising with the uc1.
@@JonConStudio Oh how cool! Galway's a great place outside of this nightmare. I did forget to mention I'm on Logic... I'll look up that update, thank you!
🔥🧨💪🏽🤠👍🏽🧨🔥
The logic setup is a different workflow completely to pro tools but I like the shortcut layers that you can customise
Wow. I thought the Roland VS-700 was the only control surface that suffered from no driver support. Mine is sitting on my desk dead
HA! The VS700 system was in a league of its own on the driver front, I really liked the controller for it as I was a Sonar user when it came out. I'm sure the VS700 system came out at a similar time to the nucleus didn't it? I remember considering both at one point but only wanted the controller and cake/roland wouldn't break their system up at the time so ruled it out (didn't need the converters). Dodged the bullet a little bit there.
I switched to pro tools because Sonar was unstable to the point of being unusable on my system. Before the UF8 came out, the nucleus 1 was still popular as most people were using other sound cards and I just wanted the controller element of the board. The mic preamps were a bonus for nucleus users and can still be used today.
The Nucleus 1 USB soundcard element was developed by a third party as I understand it and there was an issue around updates after a certain point which was then outside of SSL control. In nucleus 2, adopting the dante protocol should mean that it'll be supported for a much longer time period even after the Nuke stops getting updates from SSL but the MCU protocol is supported as is ipMIDI. Even now a 16 channel control surface which contains 2 standalone SSL preamps isn't a bad deal on the second hand market.
What are your thoughts on control surfaces? Helpful or a clunky mouse? How are you guys using your UF8
For me, a complete waste of time and space, I find the magic track pad and keyboard shortcuts easier and quicker, and less to go wrong. Thats just me though, I know some people do prefer them! Nice video btw.
@@michaelolgaalgar5729 cheers man , I completely get it, spent years on mouse and shortcuts and can do a ton of stuff without and I’m pretty happy in terms of the gear I have and would definitely purchase other gear ahead of this (mics, pres, acoustic treatment, Mac, pedals)
It’s been useful for shortcut combos such as naming and number markers without having to think or type. Track locator has been incredibly useful but it requires a little bit of setting up and thinking ahead. In the short cut section, everything the uf8 does could be done with a stream deck though.
On track pads, I’ve seen software that lets you use it as a controller, have you looked into that or using it already?
@@JonConStudio Cheers Jon, will check out that track pad software. Stay safe!
audioswiftapp.com have a look here
Nice to have physical faders, but no jog/play buttons is pretty stupid on ssl's part.
hahahah i love the Glenn Fricker reference!!!
Great video, thanks a lot. Sorry if I missed a part, im not an English native speaker but is there a way that the console 1 follow the track you select on the UF8 ?
In DAWs other than pro tools, Console one may be able to follow channel selection but I don't recall it work within pro tools
Great video ! A bit fast for a non native English speaking 😀 but still instructive enough ! I’m still hesitating between the Avid S1 or the SSL Uf8
Apologies, I think I maaaaaaaay have edited it a little too quickly. Hopefully subtitles or the speed option in settings will help you. Any questions fire awaya
How are the colors on your UF8 purple when you're using it? I can't seem to find any color identifier on the controller that correlates to the channel selected. The colors of my soft keys don't change at all...
It depends on the mode you select on the UF8 and may be dependent on the DAW you use. There is a channel inspector view in pro tools that display the pan and send information across the rotary knobs and that happens when I select the channel option on the left of the UF8.
What I’ve also found with using other DAWs is not all the function buttons light up so could be down to that reason.
Just to be clear though, there. Isn’t an option to display the colour of the channel like you can on the S1
@@JonConStudio Got it! I hope they implement something in a future update. Even just a small circle next to the channel name would suffice for me.
@@Truid Yes it would be cool, although I wouldn't hold my breath. It's something that would have to be implemented by the DAW manufacturers and supported via HUI or MCU protocols.
Hi Jon, Great video !! Tons of excellent info here. I have purchased the UF8 in high hopes that I could assign or program the faders to be dedicated. So that in Pro Tools, as I bounce around the session, the UF8 faders don’t change as I navigate through the session. I would like the 8 faders to be dedicated to my VCA’s. Do you know if there is a way to assign the faders to be dedicated ? Thank you
I put my VCAs in a folder ( “=Vca” ). There’s a navigate to track shortcut in prontools which tells prontools to scroll to the vca folder. There isn’t a way to lock these faders or have a focus fader that you might have in the S1 from avid
The Avid S1 manages VCA's and Folders really well. It can do layouts and lock tracks to strips too
4:51 You say SSL did some good videos on how to set up this. Where is the link you are talking about?
I think the videos were on their channel. Best bet would be to search UF8 Install & DAW< (insert option here)
@@JonConStudio yeah,,I just dove in head first into manuals.
All good now.
Have you tried turning on the “Auto select channel strip” option in plugin mixer settings (SSL 360)? It’s off by default. That works for me to have it change between channels as you touch fader/knobs. I’m using Logic. Not sure if it works in ProTools. Also, I have a UC1…I’m assuming that it’s not a UC1/SSL channel strip only thing.
Knowing pro tools, it probably won’t , it usually has the least options available compared to the other DAWS and this is down to avid and the feature requests from avid customers. I think it’s likely we’ll see ARA before updated Aax implementation for third party plugins and controllers
AFAIK Console one does this too so it’s dependent on the information the plugin gets from the DAW (why some plugins can do automatic numbering and others can’t).
Hey Andrew! How are you getting on with UF8 now? Still enjoying it? I have the UC1 & I'm almost ready to sell my FaderPort 8 for the UF8...
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Faders only control volume , can’t automate anything else unless you want to use the pot which is kinda flakey .
Yeah, In pro tools this is the case and also a limitation of HUI (avid) you can flip the control values in Logic, Cubase and others.
It is a nice unit...but I still will hang on to my old tascam us 2400.
Is that the 24 channel one? That was a great unit back in the day
@@JonConStudio yeah…it is old lol…but the sucker still works. I have it running on the new Mac mini m1 with Cubase 11. I have all the V pots mapped out to the PA SSL 4000 g channel strip Eq, and compressor. I know it doesn’t have the channel strip indicating lights. But I just put a long
Piece of tape strip on the arm rest just like a real console and write everything in with a black sharpie. BTW…If that’s you name? That’s freaking bad ass!
It is my name, just coincidence. Parents not long time fans of DC sadly
Great video! Since you already had the Softube Console 1, why didn't you go for the Console 1 Fader instead of the UF8?
Sorry I missed this comment somehow. For me with pro tools, console one fader wasn’t adding enough to the party that made me consider it or need it. With fader there’s no scribble strip. I can get by without on the C1 but would prefer some text read out above the fader. C1F Didn’t have that
I'm interested in why you chose this over an Avid S1 given that you are using PT? EUCON vs HUI is night and day....even the fader resolution is half on the UF8 and you cant even hit the values on the silkscreen like -10db and -20db. The faders are so gritty and noisy.
Looking to the future, I want a desk which integrates with rack units behind it. The s1 is a great unit, not a fan of the lip though. The uf8 does what I want it to.
How do you conect to uf8 in your mac Usb C or Usb A ?
It comes with both leads so take your pick
@@JonConStudio i have a some small delay in fadres it is it nomal ?
@@himanperera558 how small a delay?I get a bit when recording my mix back in through the sigma but it’s mainly because Of the additional processing I have on the chain at the end. I’d recommend getting in touch with ssl support, they’re normally pretty good for stuff like this and it’s something where they may be able help more. The only time I might get delay is if I’ve got heavy plugin processing on the master bus from a limiter plugin or something which does a lot of specialised processing (noise reduction type plugins or something like auto align) but usually delay compensation will take care of this.
Good video - well done with good content. But, you slur your words - slow down and be more intelligible
Thanks, yeah the edit probably too fast.
Don’t hold your breath on Sigma integration, ain’t gonna happen …… Sigma is total junk anyway, you need a degree in I.T. to get it working and it’s prone to just stopping working in the middle of a session.
I’m using midi and a folder in pro tools to integrate it and working fine for me. With a cat 5 switcher not had an issue at all. Only times I’ve have connectivity issues is when I’m using. VPN, that’s usually when I’m not doing work though