As a warlock main i hope they buff Soul harvester for Aff to make it more competitive compared to Hellcaller. But we still have plenty more weeks of tuning to go till release
@@billster1091 I’m huffing some major hopium as far as talents are concerned. Although I’m sad to see chrono shift go. That was the most fun leveling and BG talent ever
Only know Dps sheet URL. I don't know the healer one docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xlsweYp1Jz086WRskFAj8dmiXFXIgsxR8wThHxAUYSc/edit?gid=1442198836#gid=1442198836
Looking at this, the biggest change for Elemental between live and beta is how much the finisher, Elemental Blast (and presumably Earth Shock). And that's at least a step in the right direction because it indicates that maelstrom matters. This is also hard to examine because there's two major "sub specs" where there is a Lightning and Magma build. Magma/Fire builds are supported by the Farseer Hero Talents so if you're looking at the logs of a Magma build, Lava Burst is the point. You'd have to find a log that used the other spec Stormbringer and is Lightning Build to see if Lightning Bolt will make up more of the damage profile.
@@SegahHQ post the sheet!! The data is great…the presentation not so much. Need more visuals or something, instead I’m squinting to see all the specs on a sheet while he shifts it around every couple seconds.
It’s so nice playing rogue because at least one spec is always viable AND if I know Blizzard then they are going to fix outlaw rogues to be a much better performer. Mage is the main character of wow but rogue is a close second
So ancestors are bugged rn they should be getting a bit more dam however ele blast is also bugged in that the 60% ele blasts proccing off icefury are going at full effect. Icefury is also bugged but idk if thats a net positive for frost shocks dam or negative or if its neutral. Fun enough lava burst should still be doing more dam than ele blast, same class worse feeling imo.
@@CROOKYCRISP yeah if you ever played wow you know this is not true at all. Alot of classes get left in the dumpster for entire tiers or even expansions. so yes its Really really important if you want to play rogue.
Bro what is this shadow priest dmg, buff it please like for real. Nerfing void reaver because of disc is making my class feel less good. Like what the hell
aka: they still don't know what they are doing and don't bother coming back to play.... got it! thank you as always. Thumbs up for you. Thumbs down for blizzard per usual. Also, the hero talents are garbage, and they are hero talents in name only. There is no identity to them. there are 11 talents and on average only 2 or 3 have an actual option per spec so they may as well be baked into the hero talent tree of choice with only having the 2 or 3 actual choices visible. I don't understand how people aren't in an uproar over such shit design. I legitimately don't see a single positive change to the game that is enticing me to come back to play.
Mage and dk are broken and fun to play, but blizzard decided to nerf dh that have only one hero talent and is sh*t to play….you had one job and you fail…it’s like a prank
these numbers mean nothing. If you too high you'll get nerfed if you are too low you have a high chance of getting buffed if you are on Blizzards spec of the tier you will be buffed to be on top. Wait until the raid comes out and lets just focus on items that are busted in talents or rotation or spells.
Blizzard has more than just classes/specs to balance this time around. Now they also have hero talents. I suspect that once they are done with raid/dungeon tunning we will start to see specs get shuffled around.
The hero talents are garbage and they are hero talents only in name. There is no identity to them. there are 11 talents and on average only 2 or 3 have an actual option so they may as well be baked into the hero talent tree of choice with only having the 2 or 3 actual choices visible. It's dog crap design.
@@Naturalhigh8 I wasn't under the impression that the hero talent trees would have in-depth choices but that selecting a hero talent tree would be the only "choice." Moreover, they appear to really just be a way to zero in on a theme/playstyle (depending on spec). Afflock can focus on more DoT dmg or burst Direct dmg ect. I was just stating that none of them are balanced against each option per spec, and I suspect it'll take Blizzard a lot longer to balance those.
You realize a ton of the specs are massively bugged still and either doing a lot less or way more then they should. Elemental frost shock empowered is massively doing more dmg for example and Demo 4 piece is not working as well a few talents that are taking a good bit of dmg from it. This list means less then nothing
Sometimes logic just fly over your head. Its to see where the specs are now in the beta….ofc everything changing, he also said its not relevant. Did you see the video?
I was hyped for TWW but now when I saw videos of people playing "new" elemental I completely lost the will and hope to even play the game. Its just same rotation over and over and I am bored of it and I think LB spam is just plain stupid. Also time is running out and there is plenty of classes and specs doing terribly so there will not be any more changes to ele. Maybe I will come back to game if it get positive feedback after release but definitively not as shaman.
they were literally over performing in Beta in Raid test and doing Super well in Mythic+. The nerfs were warranted. I bet you Arcane mage will get nerfed as well. Remember these numbers dont matter that much right now since its still beta and we are still about 2 months away from Season 1 of TWW. lots will change by then
love these videos, thanks for sharing!
As a warlock main i hope they buff Soul harvester for Aff to make it more competitive compared to Hellcaller. But we still have plenty more weeks of tuning to go till release
Same as Demo, hope they buff Soul harvester to make it more competitive to Diabolist
I hope so too, for both. Altho blizz usually nerfs the good one other than buffing the lesser one. Let's hope they do the right thing
In 2004 we spamFROST SHOCK! In 2024 we spam LAVA BURST! That was our a two-decade-after QoL improvement.
Tell me you suck at the game without telling me you suck. 2024*
As someone who’s played arcane religiously for years, don’t worry. It’ll get nerfed into the ground by launch
And somehow make it worse in some way in the talents
@@billster1091 I’m huffing some major hopium as far as talents are concerned. Although I’m sad to see chrono shift go. That was the most fun leveling and BG talent ever
Good. Sick of trash arcane players ignoring mechanics to do some stupid rotation
Hey @Izenhart could u link the spreadsheet pls?
so augmentation is beyond broken.. got it
where can I find this sheet? :)
Only know Dps sheet URL. I don't know the healer one
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xlsweYp1Jz086WRskFAj8dmiXFXIgsxR8wThHxAUYSc/edit?gid=1442198836#gid=1442198836
I never understood the difference between left and right column anyone could explain?
Left are the parses, and recht the overall dmg per spec :)
Where can I find these results didn't see beta option on wowlogs
Where do you find the new/latest champs spreadsheets from now?
TWW Beta DPS Logs by Champs/Robydoby
@gabu_gg I mean I can read the doc title but, WHERE is it is the question lol. Not something you can just google for ya know
Looking at this, the biggest change for Elemental between live and beta is how much the finisher, Elemental Blast (and presumably Earth Shock). And that's at least a step in the right direction because it indicates that maelstrom matters. This is also hard to examine because there's two major "sub specs" where there is a Lightning and Magma build. Magma/Fire builds are supported by the Farseer Hero Talents so if you're looking at the logs of a Magma build, Lava Burst is the point. You'd have to find a log that used the other spec Stormbringer and is Lightning Build to see if Lightning Bolt will make up more of the damage profile.
It's trash right now even after changes. Everyone is just playing farseer
@@shankzdank I feel farseer would be better with the current talent tree too
Do you have a link to this spreadsheet?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xlsweYp1Jz086WRskFAj8dmiXFXIgsxR8wThHxAUYSc/edit?gid=1442198836#gid=1442198836 DPS
can you link your hps/dps spreadsheet thank you
Bliz just dunno how to balance
Asking it again, where do you get those logs ? ^^
@@SegahHQ post the sheet!! The data is great…the presentation not so much. Need more visuals or something, instead I’m squinting to see all the specs on a sheet while he shifts it around every couple seconds.
@@MrJeremydb91 google Champs/Robydoby
you welcome
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xlsweYp1Jz086WRskFAj8dmiXFXIgsxR8wThHxAUYSc/edit?gid=1442198836#gid=1442198836 DPS one
“Fire mage gets buffed” hardly 😪 +5% pyroblast damage increase 🤔
Fire try not to be meta for 1 patch challenge - impossible
@@shodan785 when was it meta in raid for more than 2mins??????????
It’s so nice playing rogue because at least one spec is always viable AND if I know Blizzard then they are going to fix outlaw rogues to be a much better performer. Mage is the main character of wow but rogue is a close second
All i see here is a list of op specs that are due a nurf in the coming weeks xD
So ancestors are bugged rn they should be getting a bit more dam however ele blast is also bugged in that the 60% ele blasts proccing off icefury are going at full effect. Icefury is also bugged but idk if thats a net positive for frost shocks dam or negative or if its neutral. Fun enough lava burst should still be doing more dam than ele blast, same class worse feeling imo.
please stop saying enhancement shamans got a rework they werent even touched.
Wish you would also split into the subspeccs.... Class X isnt only class x anymore, it can do better or worse in its subspeccs,
Arcane mages needs a severe buff, and should be applied rather soon than later. Yep
make my sub rogue metaaaaaa
Can you link the sheet please? Thanks
For some reason he ignores this requests
@@eximerko TWW Beta DPS Logs by Champs/Robydoby
@@gabu_gg googled it, but no luck
how can they just sit there while outlaw is almoste 600k after in dps? its insane.
Damage numbers aren’t relevant atm. Anything underperforming will be tuned properly soon enough.
@@CROOKYCRISP "properly" lololol
@@CROOKYCRISP yeah if you ever played wow you know this is not true at all. Alot of classes get left in the dumpster for entire tiers or even expansions. so yes its Really really important if you want to play rogue.
I tried Rogue on the beta and the class is a joke xD. Outlaw is punching with toothpicks and the only spec doing something is Assassination
Why even bother with talent options or specs
Bro what is this shadow priest dmg, buff it please like for real. Nerfing void reaver because of disc is making my class feel less good. Like what the hell
So priest worst healer in both specs?
Where do you see these logs???
Please help!!
aka: they still don't know what they are doing and don't bother coming back to play.... got it! thank you as always. Thumbs up for you. Thumbs down for blizzard per usual. Also, the hero talents are garbage, and they are hero talents in name only. There is no identity to them. there are 11 talents and on average only 2 or 3 have an actual option per spec so they may as well be baked into the hero talent tree of choice with only having the 2 or 3 actual choices visible. I don't understand how people aren't in an uproar over such shit design. I legitimately don't see a single positive change to the game that is enticing me to come back to play.
Can someone tell the number of the bugs to him on beta so he may stop doing those dps tier nonsense every week.
Mage and dk are broken and fun to play, but blizzard decided to nerf dh that have only one hero talent and is sh*t to play….you had one job and you fail…it’s like a prank
Blizzard, please hire IZEN! He knows balance druid well! And it seems that the devs at Blizzard just do not know what they are doing!
No mention of hunters?
these numbers mean nothing. If you too high you'll get nerfed if you are too low you have a high chance of getting buffed if you are on Blizzards spec of the tier you will be buffed to be on top. Wait until the raid comes out and lets just focus on items that are busted in talents or rotation or spells.
Izen are you Italian by any chance?
Blizzard has more than just classes/specs to balance this time around. Now they also have hero talents. I suspect that once they are done with raid/dungeon tunning we will start to see specs get shuffled around.
The hero talents are garbage and they are hero talents only in name. There is no identity to them. there are 11 talents and on average only 2 or 3 have an actual option so they may as well be baked into the hero talent tree of choice with only having the 2 or 3 actual choices visible. It's dog crap design.
@@Naturalhigh8 I wasn't under the impression that the hero talent trees would have in-depth choices but that selecting a hero talent tree would be the only "choice." Moreover, they appear to really just be a way to zero in on a theme/playstyle (depending on spec). Afflock can focus on more DoT dmg or burst Direct dmg ect. I was just stating that none of them are balanced against each option per spec, and I suspect it'll take Blizzard a lot longer to balance those.
Here he goes doctor Phil don’t know don’t care just throwing numbers. Lol it’s beta
You realize a ton of the specs are massively bugged still and either doing a lot less or way more then they should. Elemental frost shock empowered is massively doing more dmg for example and Demo 4 piece is not working as well a few talents that are taking a good bit of dmg from it. This list means less then nothing
Sometimes logic just fly over your head. Its to see where the specs are now in the beta….ofc everything changing, he also said its not relevant. Did you see the video?
Ofc he does lol. But it’s mid beta cycle. You make content about beta…. You’re just talking to hear yourself
all of his content is spewing the same garbage, i come for the comment section lmao
If they dont help rogue out idk if ill be playing this shit much longer.
I was hyped for TWW but now when I saw videos of people playing "new" elemental I completely lost the will and hope to even play the game. Its just same rotation over and over and I am bored of it and I think LB spam is just plain stupid. Also time is running out and there is plenty of classes and specs doing terribly so there will not be any more changes to ele. Maybe I will come back to game if it get positive feedback after release but definitively not as shaman.
Blizzard hates UHDK wtf that nerf bro.
they were literally over performing in Beta in Raid test and doing Super well in Mythic+. The nerfs were warranted. I bet you Arcane mage will get nerfed as well. Remember these numbers dont matter that much right now since its still beta and we are still about 2 months away from Season 1 of TWW. lots will change by then
dude youre hopeless....
why such negativity to mages..i mean in live Locks and hunters are insane compared tot he rest of casters....always have a go at them sigh
Prot paladin word of glory is still dogshit when casting on self, sadly
Enhance is still a joke.
Looks like ret is just sitting mid this season lol ohwell
So... are you intentionally not linking the spreadsheet in order to stay relevant, or what is this? Cringe af anyway