brilliant: I love the analysis of his riders can sustain the effort at every position in the line. The key, I think, was to keep the formation tighter and not have riders side by side or let gaps open.
Cool to see the breakdown of how drafting works, next step is to find out how to best taper your power to avoid getting spit out the back, this is my biggest flaw when zwifting myself ;).
Awesome! Really enjoyed that. I DS’d this week also, I went with w/kg based pull system but your tactics were very interesting. Looking forward to seeing the next TTT and the tactics in a few weeks! 👊💪
When you were planning your strategy for pulls, I was wondering why you were set to go to the line with all 6. If you were to do it over who would you have dropped? Dobson not taking any turns was the first person I thought could have been used in this role. He wasn’t contributing anything by sitting on so he would have been the perfect person to give everything he had at the beginning by pulling until he eventually got dropped.
I would have kept Dobson in at least for the first lap and then get him to do 2 or 3 pulls finished by a suicide pull. Your 6th rider does contribute to the global draft a bit, even by actually being behind the other 5 riders
When I heard about it on LRCP I thought it would be everyone ride at home like a proper zwifter. How did Zwift arrange for the whole thing? Anyway, let me know next time. I do sth around 350W for 20min, 450min for 5min and 600W for 1min from my 78kg
I think this would have been a good strategy to keep everyone together on a pancake flat circuit. With a few ramps I'm surprised the tactics were not to max out the climbers on the rises and then let them drop off knowing the team only needs 4. Dobson/Colli could each have lead out a hill effort and then the remaining 4 just stick together on the final climb. I wonder if trying not to drop anyone cost time overall. I think if riders know the plan is to get dropped strategically there is less chance people feel they let the team down/can't keep up. If this was a PCM TTT and not Zwift/IRL would you do anything differently given a similar team composition?
@@BenjiNaesenTV Sounds good. Would also be interested to know if it's possible to position the riders in a true paceline in game and if there is any aero gains on the timesheets. Maybe something the boys can practice. allez allez
Yeah I agree, max a rider out like Dobson in the beginning or on the climbs and then drop him. After a certain point, he's hindering more than helping but I'm sure you got some ideas for the next TT Benji.
Well done everyone! And surely you all now know a bit better how this all works and will be stronger next time. On a side note, these videos are making me want to get into Zwift. Sadly, I'd have to buy all the equipment from scratch, bike included. So you have a rough idea of how much I'd need to invest? Cheers, Benji!
I think the best value direct-drive trainer is ZwiftHub which is now temporarily sold out. But that + ANT+ kit would probably be 450-ish + Zwift subscription.
I’m not so sure raw watts is the best metric to use. People mostly use w/kg and then adapt lengths of pulls. There’s also bigger drafts behind larger riders and their poorer CDA on the front to account for.
@@BenjiNaesenTV Keep up the good work Benji. It’s entertaining to watch. It’s a great experience in that your friends mostly ride together in the same room and get to spur each other on too. Your team seem like a nice bunch of blokes. Good luck 👍🍀
Shout-out to Zwift DS & ZwiftInsider for the enormous amount of information on TTTs in Zwift. 🙏
Benji “I have no idea how TTTs work on Zwift” also Benji, “I have no idea how TTTs work on PCM” I appreciate the consistency 😜
This series is sick - loving it.
I think this is definitely the most watchable format i've ever seen in a zwift race video. Looking forward to the next one, the course is brutal!
This series and representation are so good, keep it up Benji!👏
brilliant: I love the analysis of his riders can sustain the effort at every position in the line. The key, I think, was to keep the formation tighter and not have riders side by side or let gaps open.
Cool to see the breakdown of how drafting works, next step is to find out how to best taper your power to avoid getting spit out the back, this is my biggest flaw when zwifting myself ;).
Lovin the series. The “team radio” is pretty sweet
Never realised how much strategy and number crunching goes into TTT.
Great effort from the team and amazing stuff from the DS.
Look forward to more.
Like this series a lot, loads of great info here which I’ll look to use on the next one 👍🏻
loving the series!!
Holy shit Benji youre looking fit!
Lovin this content! Rooting for guys! So much bad news in the world but this is just goid clean fun …
Awesome! Really enjoyed that. I DS’d this week also, I went with w/kg based pull system but your tactics were very interesting. Looking forward to seeing the next TTT and the tactics in a few weeks! 👊💪
I think if I translate to w/kg it probably comes down to a w/kg system. I just made it unnecessarily difficult I think. 😂
Nice, I like the soundtrack!
When you were planning your strategy for pulls, I was wondering why you were set to go to the line with all 6. If you were to do it over who would you have dropped? Dobson not taking any turns was the first person I thought could have been used in this role. He wasn’t contributing anything by sitting on so he would have been the perfect person to give everything he had at the beginning by pulling until he eventually got dropped.
Very valid, I was simply planning too safe and I aim to adapt that before the next TTT. :)
I would have kept Dobson in at least for the first lap and then get him to do 2 or 3 pulls finished by a suicide pull. Your 6th rider does contribute to the global draft a bit, even by actually being behind the other 5 riders
I found this video very informational.
I think the fact that the time gap between the 1st and 2nd teams was less than a second, deserved a mention 😜
Btw, I belong to the team that came 1st :)
Good too see the effort that you guys are putting in to optimize your performance 👏
a tip from a really long zwifter, tt bikes dont work in team time trials the bike doesnt get to stick in the wheel of the one in front of you
When I heard about it on LRCP I thought it would be everyone ride at home like a proper zwifter. How did Zwift arrange for the whole thing? Anyway, let me know next time. I do sth around 350W for 20min, 450min for 5min and 600W for 1min from my 78kg
Wow, 3 DIRT teams in the top 4, including 1st place from last week.
Nice vid
I think this would have been a good strategy to keep everyone together on a pancake flat circuit. With a few ramps I'm surprised the tactics were not to max out the climbers on the rises and then let them drop off knowing the team only needs 4. Dobson/Colli could each have lead out a hill effort and then the remaining 4 just stick together on the final climb.
I wonder if trying not to drop anyone cost time overall. I think if riders know the plan is to get dropped strategically there is less chance people feel they let the team down/can't keep up. If this was a PCM TTT and not Zwift/IRL would you do anything differently given a similar team composition?
Since it was my first TTT on Zwift ever, it was basically a test for the basic principles. I can try strategies in our second TTT now in a few weeks.
@@BenjiNaesenTV Sounds good. Would also be interested to know if it's possible to position the riders in a true paceline in game and if there is any aero gains on the timesheets. Maybe something the boys can practice. allez allez
Yeah I agree, max a rider out like Dobson in the beginning or on the climbs and then drop him. After a certain point, he's hindering more than helping but I'm sure you got some ideas for the next TT Benji.
Well done everyone! And surely you all now know a bit better how this all works and will be stronger next time.
On a side note, these videos are making me want to get into Zwift. Sadly, I'd have to buy all the equipment from scratch, bike included. So you have a rough idea of how much I'd need to invest? Cheers, Benji!
I think the best value direct-drive trainer is ZwiftHub which is now temporarily sold out.
But that + ANT+ kit would probably be 450-ish + Zwift subscription.
@@BenjiNaesenTV Thanks. I'll need to have a look at this. :)
I’m not so sure raw watts is the best metric to use. People mostly use w/kg and then adapt lengths of pulls. There’s also bigger drafts behind larger riders and their poorer CDA on the front to account for.
Should say. Sorry if that comes across critical. You are doing a great job. Maybe I’m wrong :)
@@benfinesilver2250 No worries, I enjoy the feedback! :)
@@BenjiNaesenTV Keep up the good work Benji. It’s entertaining to watch. It’s a great experience in that your friends mostly ride together in the same room and get to spur each other on too. Your team seem like a nice bunch of blokes. Good luck 👍🍀
What bibs are they all using?
Nice video but.. where is Tudor?
A 2-week break so I don't get burned out on playing PCM all year long. Should be back next week somewhere.
@@BenjiNaesenTV Oke hope the boys get a good result
And where is Parkitect?
Parkitect with extra football hooligans
th-cam.com/video/C3MjZU07QvY/w-d-xo.html - Our stream from the same ZRL race, we had the top time in B Cat for all ZRL zones :)
What division is this?
Cat B Atlantic East B1