Underwater and Overlooked: Crisis on the Missouri River
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- The Missouri Corn Merchandising Council and Missouri Corn Growers Association produced a short documentary to highlight the personal stories behind the 2011 Missouri River flood.
I'm from St Joseph, Mo. and my Daddy (Jack Keller) told me a long time ago to never build in a flood plain. In fact, don't build anything near a river (especially the Missouri River). Always study the rivers all year around. Learn what they do in the transitioning period from winter time to spring time and into the summer months and how they behave. Some rivers like the Mo. River are very violent and dangerous. I can't believe the Mo. Dept of Transportation would build a highway (I-29) in a flood plain.
First Fruit most southern areas are flood plains. Half of Louisiana is under sea level like New Orleans if it wasn’t for the leavees the land wouldn’t be inhabitable at all
8 years later and this is the first I am hearing of this...is it still like this?
Nope, not one damn bit. I lived about 15 - 20 miles from Craig, MO during that flood. This spring's flood has closed I-29 again, and it is still closed today. The fact of the matter is that the USACE does NOT release sufficient water from the dams during the winter months to handle the high snow fall and high rain fall amounts that have happened this past winter (similar to 2011). Additionally, because of 2004 federal legislation, flood control and protection of crops, land, and personal property have been moved to the BOTTOM of the USACE's list of priorities in managing the Missouri River Dam System. There has been legislation introduced this year to address this, but it has not been passed at this point.
@@brucecook8090 this is mind blowing to me.. our news focuses on the wrong topics and issues when there is real world problems like this happening 😔
@@brucecook8090 Same thing is going on in California. The Sierra snow pack is 150% of normal with a storm coming in to melt it this weekend. Lake Orroville is at 870 ft. (maybe higher) with catastrophe happening at 906 ft. The other dams upstream are at full capacity. One million or more will die if/when that dam fails. The reservoir is mega huge but is expected to rise between between 3 and 4 inches an hour. Inflows are expected to hit a mind boggling 150 million gals a second once the rain melts the snow. That being calculated for the watershed of the Eastern Sierra Nevada Mountains.
Yet they have known the snow levels since when? They have restricted flow vs releasing. I think, going from memory, the max release capability is right at 150 thousand gals a second. Yet, they are currently only releasing about 11 thousand a second.
Not good, and you've probably not even heard of this crisis
I am no expert and my math may be somewhat off and my gallons per second could actually be cubic ft per second.
But know this: This was a planned catastrophe if/when that dam breaks.
@@victoreous626 to bad comifornia could use a good washing lol
What I don't get is they know they're having a record snowfall during a winter they had all winter to get those water levels down knowing that the snow is going to melt and knowing the flooding is coming what the hell.
They want farmers off the lands. They can create money but they can't create more land.
UN Agenda 21 wants people off the land and into stack and pack city highrises...
@@WollongongSkyWatch if the farmers end up losing their lands the gov agencies take over then the gov has control over the land whats grown or not grown . If the people are starving the gov has control over the people after all the guns are taken away that is that is what the socialist and other people who are trying to take over and or ruin America.
@@otterssilver7299 that's the ultimate aim. The psychopaths who control gov'ts play the very long game. Wake up as many as you can.
James Shoemaker .no one on the government cares about the people any more.
River bottoms are some of the most productive land on earth because they periodically flood bringing rich silt to the land. Another name for them is 'flood plains'.
Exactly. Yet people are shocked when flooding occurs ?
I’m surprised we have any farmers left in this country. But that’s ok....we still have supermarkets.....no one thinks about the farmers we have left until the store shelves get expensive...or empty. It does seem like they could have started the release a little earlier.
10 years later... it still is happening
One guy who lived in Jefferson (just north west of Sioux City, IA and Dakota Dunes, SD) was luck enough to have built his house on a rise. His property flooded but his house didn’t (most every home around did). They were sandbagging like crazy, he told my that when the water went down, his yard was filled with fish.
Sharing this. More Americans need to raise their awareness about their own people's struggles.
I lived in Vermillion, South Dakota during the 2011 flood. Pretty wild time. It was a major mistake to ever allow the development of Dakota Dunes. I have family in Sioux City, Council Bluffs, and Magnolia.
I grew up in the dunes bluestem trail lol
A lot of the best Missouri River bottom land is now underneath reservoirs
It isn’t just water management at the dams. The Big Sioux floods every year, folks I know have to contend with part of their land being under water for several weeks each spring. That river feeds into the Missouri at the Nebraska,Iowa, South Dakota corner.
8 years later, the midwest is really getting slammed now....
It’s all about the Corp getting all the land back on the inside of the levees back South of the Gavins Point Dam. The last dam on the river. Then they will have total control over everything in between the levees from the dam down to the Mississippi. From habitat to boat ramps. This flood was not all on them. They ran it high (18ft) knowing there was lots of snow in the mountains. Then cut the flow back to 9 foot just before the storms hit ND,SD,NE IA,&MO.
No they didn't. I live on the river and the corp did the best they could.
They know when & where storms will hit because the weather is being controlled (made).
@@deannelson9565 River to get a cab in there and if you ask me to core is a piece of s*** and I can't control nothing I can't control it tear the f****** dams down and do away with the core
@@catinassassin7721 was that in English?
Do your home work! You need a history lesson on why the dams were built in the first place. We need to make more storage upstream! Its not about recreation, its about losing storage from silt. We have lost over 30 % if Gavins Point Dam storage due to silt from the niobrara river
What I don't understand is after witnessing a 500yr flood event that ravaged Cedar Rapids, IA in 2008 is when a severe flood event is expected weeks or easily predicted months in advance from enormous snow fall to the north and we are in the flood plain and the news is reporting weeks in advance to expect flooding. Why on earth are all the flood gates kept closed until we are already above flood stage behind the dam?
The Corp of Engineers is required to keep a certain amount of flow in the rivers and I accept that. What I don't accept is when flooding, severe flooding is expected why are those flows and water levels not allowed to drop to just above the minimums and reservoir level lowered to mitigate the damage?
In 2008 I watched the levels until the dam was almost over topped before they opened the spillways and then they were opened full bore. Which I believe caused a lot of the damage.
I am not an engineer, or a hydrologist, or any kind of professional involved in the workings of dams and rivers etc., but it seems to me that there has got to be a better way to do things.
For example (I am just speculating here)
If every farm or park or uninhabited area behind a levee could take say 2-4 inches of water during a flood event would that reduce pressure on the levees and prevent them from bursting while minimizing or preventing crop damage?
Could ways for water to be diverted to infiltration basins be found or created cost effectively so that during floods the excess water can be used to recharge aquifers like the Ogallala that has been over exploited and whose levels have dropped?
Can upstream runoff and melt water be slowed and or infiltrated before it hits the streams and rivers? Instead of steep drainage ditches could contour swales and more gently or slower flowing ditches be used? Could that mitigate or reduce flooding?
This is all just off the top of my head and I have no idea of cost effectiveness or practicality involved.
One more that just occurred to me could towns and or cities along the rivers instead of dumping their storm drains into the rivers have it diverted to infiltrate or directed the water where it would do no harm and not contribute to already over full or flooded rivers?
Could any or all of this work or help I don't know. What I do know is that there was a planned community/neighborhood in southern california (Yeah, I know land of the odd) that was set up to handle all of the storm water and runoff and use it for the landscaping. I don't recall the name, but during an extremely wet year with a lot of severe storms and flooding not only did they retain all of their storm water they also relieved flooding throughout the area when the city (with permission) diverted water from overwhelmed storm drains in the general area and the community retained it all I believe.
This is a lot longer than I had planned and went off on several tangents so please forgive my rambling. I don't know if any of this would work, but share your thoughts and/or criticisms.
The evil super rich are controlling the weather. They want us all dead.
Sorry but that's what's behind all this negative stuff going on. They PLANNED this, to keep farmers from planting.
I'm so angry with what I've seen and I cried for weeks every day after the Paradise, CA murders. If you need the truth and everyone does, you have to do some research and see how (who) the puzzle pieces fit together. NEVER trust government! They are NOT running the show.
@@priscillaross-fox9407 the depopulation events are ongoing. Body count will increase until public outcry occurs. Our responses are monitored & I believe independent efforts will be shut down if & when sufficient numbers get motivated. This year will be worse than 2011, food prices will rise. Manufactured storms going on right now. I see the "truther" groups being kept from joining together, we may be too late. ✌
Like I just posted a few minutes ago, I don't care if the lakes are used for recreational activities like boating and water skiing. If they would keep the water levels constant low, they could be prepared for unexpected heavy snow melts and heavy rains they could be prepared to contain them. Why do they kept the reservoirs full and then when they get hit with snow melts and heavy rains they can't contain the large amount of water and have to release it causing flooding and crop and property damage to farmers, homes, businesses downstream. I'm not from the flood plain areas but I still think recreational actives on these reservoirs aren't a necessity. Why should farmers and those in small towns have to suffer so someone can have a fun day out on a lake? It makes no sense.
@mishap00 I just noticed you left a little out of the title 'Corp of Engineers'. It's The United States Army Corp of Engineers. (my only criticism) And I'm LOL.
Our government never (not that I've seen anyway) has worked by logic.
Hint: A building owned by the us with people in it had an elevator broken for some time. It wasn't a tall building but was an inconvenience to those occupying or servicing those in it.
Instead of just fixing it they moved everyone to another building which also had a non-working elevator.
They could have FIXED the 2nd building elevator first and made it easier to move everyone only once but they don't do things using logic. When the 1st elevator had been fixed they moved everyone back into that 1st building.
But here comes the insane part. After the 2nd building elevator was fixed they moved everyone from the 1st building back to the 2nd building!
Why are they like this? I have no idea but this is only one instance. There were others.
What you are suggesting is so logical and that's not a word in their dictionary. Tell me again why we need governing.
I only typed corp of engineers 'cause I'm lazy. As for the elevator issue...if the gov't made any sense at all I'd probably drop dead from the shock.
The Army Corps cannot hold back every situation. We're in a cycle of nature that is very dangerous.
That's part of the problem. Too many think this is natural and there's nothing natural about evil super rich running this government. I didn't want to WAKE UP but I needed to know what is really going on. It hurts like heck and I pray.
Ok so the corp of engineering knew it was going to flood out everything below the damn but did it anyways? Shouldnt they be responsible for the devastation they caused?
The corps of engineers has to release water because if the reservoirs behind those dams start to overflow, the dams could be in danger of collapsing, and then EVERYONE would be screwed. Note that that's not to say that the Corps of Engineers is doing everything right, but they do have to protect the safety of the dams, first and foremost.
crucisnh yeah, if anyone thinks these floods are bad ( not saying they weren't) just think how bad it will be if any of the major dams upstream fails...
So Ive read several comments. Im assuming a political effort is just dead wood here? Can't get any results from elected congresspeople?
G W ha..hahaha...haha..results? From congresspeople?!?!? Hahaha.....that's funny...
This is why you don't live in a flood plain.
Nicely done!
I agree with the statement "Its not about recreation, it's about livelihoods." He is correct. But we cant rely on the ACOE (government) to do so, considering all of those dock permits and boating is making them loads of money in taxes and fee's. They'd rather leave the reservoir high to collect.
Couldn’t all the lakes above the dams be held at a lower level with a more consistent release, allowing more time to stop flooding.
scott mckernan They could, but they won’t-more UNagenda 21 folks-
If the dams run too low they dry out too much and weaken. When water comes in again they can crack and fail! California is paying for that mistake as we speak.
Building those dams on the Missouri River was a huge catastrophic disaster
When I hear the Army Corp of Engineers, I know it's not going to help. EVERYTHING the government is involved in is going to be a mess. And for that Col. Robert Ruch...I wonder how he would sleep if his home and bed were underwater.
I'm not from the area these flood plains are in but I can feel the pain of those who get flooded out. My suggestion would be to keep the reservoirs at consistently low levels. I don't care if they provide recreational activities. I think the lives and income that farmers depend on are more important than someone who wants to go run a boat around a lake or go water skiing. Maybe I don't understand about flood control, but it seems to me that if they kept the reservoirs at low levels in preparation to catch unexpected snow melts and heavy rains, instead of keeping the reservoirs at full capacity and then can't contain the snow melts and heavy rains they wouldn't have to release a mass amount of water causing flooding downstream. As I said, recreational activities are just that recreational and not really a necessity. There are other ways to enjoy your day. Why do farmers, homes and businesses have to suffer just for others to have fun out on a lake? Not preparing for the worst by keeping the reservoirs at low levels is something I'll never understand.
Tragic for everyone in the USA. The impact eventually touches everyone of us.
I think the Cdr was correct. Had less water been let through the damn, it would likely backed up and overflowed the top of the dam anyway. I think it would best to make the dam larger/higher to hold more water with the upside of producing more power. The expense could be made back selling extra power or via increased power costs which I don't think too many people would mind if it meant preventing future floods.
If you make the dams higher to hold more water then more water backs up behind the dams and floods the area behind the dams.
The main problem is... with building dams they never take into account... silting... They are not designed to automatically clean the silt out and it's too expensive to dredge and haul away. So the dams fill up with sediment, Then there is less amount of containment area for extreme rainy / snow fall seasons. Also it stops the river from adding new silt to the environment downstream. So basically all there is, is gravel with no sand / silt / clay binder. Allowing, so when it does flood, nothing to bind the rocks and gravel or absorbing the extra water flow and it ends up washing away faster.
When I had to rebuild my spring house I designed it to clear the clay and silt build up in the bottom because I was tired of shoveling it out every couple of years. Plus with the new design there wasn't going to be a way to get back inside without renting a backhoe to lift the concrete cover. (I was tired of rebuilding the spring house cover too.) All there is now is a 1 foot diameter access hole in the center. So I added 4 - 4 inch PVC pipes with a single 45 degree elbow in the very bottom and every two years I pull out one of the pipes from the center on the inside and it sucks all the silt and clay right out, back down to the original bottom level (If I want, I can pull all 4 "stacks" and it cleans it faster. Putting it back in is a one handed job, it sucks the pipe right back into place.) and I have them set for level and over flow control and it "skims" any debris from the top of the water. It's been almost 20 years... Still works like a charm...
Don't know why they didn't think of this when building dams.
More on the way.
I have something to say about the MO. River floods here in NW MO. In 2011, my wife's Cousin, a MO. Highway Patrol Officer, and his K9, lost their lives because of this flood. They were lost trying to help the local residents and officials during this flood. What really makes me mad, and still does, is the FACT, that the Army Corps of Engineers so underestimated the spring runoff of the snow pack that year.
Another, VERY BIG thing for us here in this county, is that the BNSF Railroad has an elevated line that runs across the lower part of the Big Lake State Park community, it acts as a dam that keeps flood waters in the area, and they keep raising the roadbed the BNFS,
The BNSF has spent so much money on the MANY washed out tracks here over the many years, I would think they would have been better off to build a trestle. PLUS!!!!, The
If it was so dry where did that water come from....
I note that MissouriCorn produced this documentary to highlight the personal stories behind the 2011 Missouri floods. It would have been very much more interesting if it also explained exactly why the floods occurred. Was it because the water level behind the dams was held high for recreation, as the speaker at 13.53 to14.00 said or what?
It's a shame that happened.
May our gracious God help us all!
Well it's happened again probably ought to get everything to higher ground now it just going to keep happening.
This is no accident. They want to do us in in any way they can. I wish people would at least try learn what is happening although it is probably already too late to save us.
@@priscillaross-fox9407 afraid you're right
Make the core of engineers build leveys
God bless Missouri
Keep the reservoirs low to absorb unexpected precipitation and protect the lives and livelihoods of the farmers down river. That’s literally the entire point of dams besides generating electricity. Recreation in those reservoirs should be secondary, you’d think that would go without saying.
2019 anyone, anyone? 100 YR FLOOD HUH? BS
Scott Anderson a “100 year flood“ means a flood that has a 1 in 100 chance of occurring in any given year ( 1% ). It does NOT mean that size flood will only show up once in 100 years. It’s a really poorly chosen term for a statistical probability.
@@RoxnDox OK then. In Iowa City and Cedar Crapids Iowa, we have now had 4-5 '100 year' floods just in the past 10-15 years. So shouldn't they say 10 year flood or caused by man's stupidity for only building 5 ft of levee when it should have been a 9 ft levee (Nebraska 2019, anyone, anyone)? LOL
Scott Anderson yes, they should probably update the statistics and make it a 10% chance instead of 1%, or whatever the right value is. The problem with levees is they just push the problem downstream. Management of a big river system isn’t an easy job.
This reminds me of the 1993 Midwest Flood, which could be seen even from 40,000 feet! - j q t -
It's just gonna get worse I'm afraid .
Just go to the Netherlands and get info from them they are the best. The Netherlands is so small they have no play ground. Without dams against the see and rivers they are lost. Thats why they know the best to beat the water.
Too bad they can't pump a whole bunch of that water to the Southwest. Farmers in California would love to have it.
Continental divide says no
Those dams displaced many native Americans. Sioux tribes, Northern Cheyenne, others.
I'm in Montana, Flood control and livelihood should be 100 percent and recreation 0 when it comes to managing the river.
Bruce, the problem is that "supporting" recreation is livelihood for many people. Mind you, I still think that minimizing flooding down river is more important than keeping water levels high in recreational reservoirs. Just remember that the people whose jobs revolve around recreation and tourism are people with families and livelihoods as well. But I will say that it seems like the consequences are more profound when there's extreme flooding downriver than if the reservoirs were to be low. Flooding destroys crops, homes, businesses, etc. while low reservoirs only seem like they'd hurt employment. It just seems like a better balance is needed.
Are you insane? Recreation/tourism is the number 1 priority. 😂
come to UpState NY planty of high land to buy and farm..
But don't get sick of they will take your guns. NY's SAFE act gives doctors too much say in your right to bear arms. Got a cold? I'll prescribe a medication that on label says not to drive or use firearms. You can still drive but sheriff will take your guns and you'll be lucky to see them in 5 years after a 30 day prescription
People always want to blame somebody other than themselves. At the beginning of this they said farmers in the past dealt with natural floods from wet seasons or drought but always waited for that perfect year to grow a good crop. What was forgotten was those same farmers dealt with decades of bountiful crops because the dams were built and stopped nature from flooding them out. Funny that now when nature takes control its suddenly called un-natural and man made.
Must be a Government worker!
They were built for flood control, not flood creation. Will it never flood? That is unrealistic. Does it have to be a record breaking flood everytime? No. THAT is the difference. Nature is not in charge of opening the gates and when.
2011??? 1993 was the super crazy year.
The real problem is the dams and levies in the first place. They created a false sense of protection in a flood plain.
I feel like people should be ready for floods and that's how that ground gets its nutrients every ten years so just don't build your stuff on low lands next time bcuz eventually that ground will not produce if u don't get flood waters
Need a pipeline to send water to the Colorado River basin area.
The corp of engineers are famous for putting communities at risk as an engineering exercise to see if their elaborate
Theve already altered it and screwed everything up . They need to divert it somehow in spots especially in case of high water yrs .
It's called government sponsored weather weapons. Their own documents show their plans for it's use. Many years of invested research and development. You are seeing it now.
Government simplified...let natural disasters occur without warning...make no announcement as to the need to evacuate, seek high ground, save what effects you have, move inland, seek other shelter and place to eek out a living, say goodbye to your premises indefinitely...the water heading downstream will flood everywhere, take your losses, start over, no need to build levees...no time...the rush is on and, your presence is the object of being in the way of progress! You took the chance to settle here with no guarantee of mother nature's wrath some day...well, here she comes! Problem is that, with ever increasing rains upriver, a disaster plan was never instituted for the time like now...too late to make amends with your lifetime of blood, sweat & tears...just get the hell out of Holt County asap...move the farm animals elsewhere...gather what belongings are necessary...have moving company take possessions to storage facilities...etc.
Time for change and new hope??????
Seems as though nobody in the higher levels of that State's government doesn't care or really gives deals with the concerns of the age-old levees. The original construction or building of the levees may have been ok, but over time they should have been heightened as well as strengthened, The Missouri river has ever been a mighty river, mighty rivers need never be forgotten. The army engineers seem disconnected from the land folk, well that is also another unattended or undealt with is a very serious problem.
Army Corp. of engineers, damned if you do damned if you dont
How much land did they take over this? How many farmers and towns did they crush so they could buy the land very cheap?
I will tell you mister I sure as hell would not sleep at night. you sir are in love with your self shame on you i.e. the so & so that runs the army core
It was not a man made flood the extreme weather caused this flood and the dams were not designed to stop this size of flood. Fine if you don't want the flood to last for months take the dams out and let all the water come at once and then decide who to blame then.
Not true the Government has total control who gets flooded by the way the Dams are controlled, on TV the bother day a Big shot with the Corps said that fooding is not their main concern, FACT jack Lake recreation and up river irrigation systems on is.
Then you can pay 100 times more for your food. Floods like 93, 11, and now 19 were few and far between until the way the Corps CHANGED the Operation of the Dams.
@@ozarksfarmerhansen8782 Actually it's the evil super rich who run government. They will do anything to get rid of us.
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Yes ma’am. NWO at work
Bullshit the Missouri River below lake Oahe was very low all winter that year. By early spring local officials in Pierre and Ft.pierre we’re telling the Corp of an imminent flood and they did nothing. I know this because I lived through it moving my family and friends out of homes and sand bagging
So what do they think we are going to do as I have watched more & more of our Great Farm Lands Sold & Sub-Divisions = Houses Built on the Fields ! We are running out of room fast. ! Where or Who is going to feed us.
As the Farmers become old & pass away. Their kids are selling the land & Developers Buy it &
Build Houses on it. !
lbbradley55 Low, flood-prone agricultural lands should never be allowed to be reclassified as residential. If County boards wouldn’t allow development it wouldn’t happen.
@@angelaiseli3910 So True. See Flooded Homes on News Every Year that you must wounder how the land was ever PERMITED ?
You have to blame yourself if you build up communities on river beds - Shit happens !!!
Sad about the army core of enginer they seem to be a waste of a decision i know in florida they were morons as well
I suspect they don’t empty the reservoirs out enough because they need to generate power. It’s a balance between power generation and preventing floods. Clearly power generation is the more important focus. I guess they can’t predict the water inflow well enough. If they empty and the water doesn’t come they’ll be fired. They don’t empty and then floods happen they won’t be fired because far more people depend on the power. Going forward if we have greater amounts of water events then perhaps we need to build bigger dams.
Regarding disasters that come upon a land, Deuteronomy 28 says: If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name-the Lord your God- the Lord will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. The Lord will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the Lord your God. Just as it pleased the Lord to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you.
well it happened again so i assume nothing changed no surprise we only focus on something for a second in this MacDonald's (tm) culture
No it didn't so far this is that absolutely novel comparison almost all the water this time came through Nebraska and Eastern South Dakota! As it is Lake oahe one of the largest reservoirs it's approaching full because they've held so much water back this spring already to keep the flooding less but the farmers down there never seem to pay attention to that sort of s*** they only care about themselves!
dean nelson so its the farmers fault ? I was just referring to the media coverage is all. By this happened again I just meant the shit load of rain.
What people do with that,Army Corps of Engineers, farmers etc.I dont know enough to give a useful opinion. But you seem to know a lot more
I guess. Are you a farmer?
@@odaydrums yeah it's the farmers fault that they're getting flooded they're the ones that choose to farm in a freaking River floodplain! They talked about the fact that it flooded three of the previous four years I can tell you living on the Missouri River up in North Dakota we only flooded during one of those. why because the dams were doing what they were supposed to do and we're holding the water back. Mind you holding all that water back to keep the flooding less done in Missouri the previous years were why the fleet flipping Lakes were so damn high to begin with! They just seem to forget there's a whole bunch of river drainage area in south Dakota Nebraska Iowa Northern Missouri parts of Kansas that all drain in below the dams that have no control. That flooding you see on the news this spring it came 100% from below the dams just like most years. These guys live in an area that used to flood multiple times per year and now only occasionally floods that may not be great for them but they're sure the hell are never going to be in a place that doesn't flood when you build on the banks of one of the largest river areas in the United States! Simple rule of thumb if you live on the water you will eventually live in the water it's just how it works. They're so quick to look to blame someone but in the end the only ones they can blame her themselves!
@@deannelson9565 I imagine farming would just naturally start where fertile lands exist other wise why not farm where there never is any flooding? That would be Napa Valley but thats good for grapes and some fruits not wheat,soybean or corn. I think the corn belt is that because its the best place to grow which might be on or near flood plains. Also the little I know about farmers there not really big into blaming but you have your opinion and
are welcome to it. I will assume you are a farmer.
@@deannelson9565 The majority came from the snow pack and Spencer Dam letting go. That is above Gavin's Point. No one is blaming 93 on the Corps. But to close the gates down instead of opening them in January was wrong. They reacted incorrectly. THAT is precisely the problem. They created a higher probability.
The army core is trying to clear out certain community's.. to what end will we allow our government too rule us unconstitutionally and unconditionally
If there were no dams or levees, there would not be much farming on those flood plains. The record snowfall in the Rockies was amazing.
Record snow in the Rockies would definitely put up a red flag and that right there should of told the army corp to start letting more water out during the winter, and who knows there might not of been a flood at all.. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this problem... I don't remember who said this, it's important not to harm the habitat so lets flood the peoples homes and drown the peoples livestock, So it's OK to destroy people's lives just to save a habitat.... SMH...
If the dams had never been built in the first place they wouldn't have that problem. Humans should never try to tame nature for their benefit, nature will win every time. Bust all the dams on the river and get the hell out of the flood plains.
Ok But we still need the river to transport grain and other products, remember each barge takes 58 trucks off the highways.
@@patreed2921 Let the railroads deal with the grain and other products and if there are no tracks, lay some new tracks.
Man interfering with nature will always have a disastrous outcome.
What a bunch of Dummies. I’d move away.
There should be a way to pump some of this water to the west. Colorado river (Hoover Dam). Is this not able to be done?
there is a Continental divdide that stops that from ever happening
wtf
Thank you for this information, this country is going to go hungry if common sense doesn't take over recreation thinking.
We produce massively more food than we use I love how you people that have no f****** idea what remotely talkin about like to comment on s*** like this!
I feel bad for the people affected by this flooding but you are living and farming on a floodplain. The dams and reservoirs are a heg against drought and an attempt to control the forces of nature. We can try but nature will always wi.n
I THINK I WILL GROW BAMBOO, THIS YEAR AND MAYBE SOME MARYJUNO NEXT!! MAYBE SOME DUCKS AND GEESE! SRIMP THE NEXT! P YAH I THINK I WOULD QUIT WORSHIPING BAAL AS IT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE WEATHER AS IN 1 KINGS 18:21 AND THE WHOLE 18 CHAPTER READ IT YOU MIGHT FIND THIS ACCOUNT INTERESTING! IT CLEARLY TELLS YOU WHO CONTROLS THE RAIN!!!!
O cry me a river!
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Probably a silly thought but here goes . In todays world where anything can be built how about a massive diversion system to flow some of this water to the Colorado river as the dam at Vegas is so low it will be a real disaster when it dries up as all those poor rich people in southern Nevada and Arizona can't water their golf courses and ultimately the whole southern Californian system will be a ghost town . See I told it may be a dumb idea .
Yep your right it's a dumb idea.
Why not? Thing is, it is only viable every so many years. Again, why not?
@@thegreenerthemeaner because the Colorado river can't take that much water till you are well Downstream in it's flow. So you would have to find a way to transport 100,000 cfs over 700 miles going uphill for the first half of it. Then you need to find a way to get it over or through the front range of the Rockies then transport it over, under or around numerous other mountains Creeks streams and River drainages not to mention several large Canyon areas before you ever get the water to anywhere the Colorado is large enough to take such a large load which would be in the headwaters of the large reservoirs about where the Grand Canyon begins. Put it to you this way you're talking about many trillions of dollars to fix a problem that very seldomly happens and only cost several billion dollars. Simple fact you could have a disaster like this every year and it would still be cheaper to have the disaster then to build some cockamamie scheme to move massive amounts of water over a big ass mountain range. It's called The Real World you might want to live in it someday it's kind of a cool place you should at least check it out!
The problem is silt and sand build-up behind the dams the core needs to start dredging these reservoirs irregardless of the environmental damage that it may do to the fish Downstream and start putting the farmers first and the fish and the tree huggers and Washington II
The problem is really this....you are in a FLOODPLAIN!!!. So maybe the farmers that bought that low land near the river could pay for the dredging upstream, build higher levees on their land, and screw those downstream???
@@mdvzzxx first of all I do not live in a floodplain and you're missing the point the point is the core has not done their job and keeping the the dams dredged deep enough to contain the water
@@mdvzzxx the whole purpose in building the dams on the Missouri River was to control the water to keep from flooding Downstream.
First the name is Corps not Core. dredging just in front of the dams would do little. if you are talking dredging the entire storage of the reservoirs would be way WAY expensive and where do you suggest the material is taken? That ranks right up there with pumping water from lakes that flood to the western states. People need to realize that sometimes it's just going to flood.
@@rpgervanburen6699 OK by "you" I meant the farmers in the video. My bad, sorry. They ARE in a floodplain that's a fact. The term floodplain means just that! The farm ground in these areas is highly productive. But it comes with risks. Floods are going happen sometimes. Those dams in South Dakota are silting in, as they do have a finite lifespan, the lakes behind them are massive, I've seen most. Dredging is NOT an option. No way the dams or corps could have stopped this flood!! Oh by the way, I am not a "tree hugger" , I farm with my brother along a much smaller river than the Mighty Mo. I have lost crops. That sucks. There are options we are looking into. Pastures, restoring wetlands, etc or keep farming this land. I just don't have dams upstream to blame.
PLEASE WHAT HAS TRUMP DID TO HELP NEB I'D LIKE TO KNOW
What did odingbat do?
@Donald McCarthy until YOUR food prices rise!
@Donald McCarthy
Bravo Sir, bravo! Spoken by someone with years of land, crop, and livestock management experience. You Sir have never managed a garden, much less a farm.
Geek from the corps of engineers wearing his field uniform
Storekeeper too greedy to keep her doors open for her community
What is going on here????
You talking about that old woman who ran some small store? Are you nuts? She's probably got a family too that she has to look out for. And a business isn't a charity. She's probably only making a decent living with a small store like that. I doubt that she's rolling in cash, for crying out loud. What is going on here is a small business owner making a sane business decision to protect her business and her family.
@@crucisnh can't tell propaganda when you see it???????????
This is only going to get worse, the cost of man made climate change.
Thankfully you has a empathetic Presidential Administration that will come to your aid and serve you well.
MAGA.
Remember to vote in 2020,
Off The Starboard Hull are you out of your mind repubs don’t spend money on infrastructure, they give tax breaks to the ultra wealthy
@@crossbow3539 another liberal idiot
Jim, it’s a sarcastic post, Trump and Republicans don’t give a shit about farmers, small business, people in general.
You really are deluded aren't you. A sympathetic administration? Yea right! They are the ones removing environmental restrictions on corporations, not to mention that they believe climate change is a hoax. So good luck with that you dolt! What planet do you live on!
BOLLEFISK123 . It’s sarcasm, a form of humor.
The administration does not give a shit.
They are all to busy trying to maintain power and making laws to rape you of everything you hold dear.
The GOP has a history of such rape and now it’s worse.
I have a massive amount of empathy for the plight of farmers.
Thoughts and prayers don’t fix that shit storm.
Cheers