Dodge and burn. Dodge and burn. The modernization of the old darkroom processes via Lightroom Classic. Thanks for sharing your stylized approach. Very satisfying with appealing results.
I like that technique as a dry run of the darkroom process. I agree that it can save time and paper. What would really be interesting for me is to watch you print these same photos in the darkroom now that we all know where you want to take them. Thanks.
Beautiful work and lovely picture of your daughter! She is very pretty also. I have been watching your videos recently and learning a lot. I like your style and how you approach your style… very emotionally and yet simple. Very well done and musical! I’m glad I found you! Be safe.. Cheers..
So interesting to see your use of the Lightroom tool, Ari. Looking at the before/after - the value of the adjustments you make are obvious. At the same time, there is something instinctive that causes me to flinch any time I "edit" my negatives. While I can touch up a photograph now and then it's not something that finds its way into my workflow on the vast majority of my shots. I dont like it. It feels less than honest. (And perhaps I'm just too old!! LOL) But also, you and I approach our work somewhat differently. I never consider mine any form of "art" . . . it's a snapshot . . . a picture - that somehow brings people joy. That's enough. But, as always, you have won me over today and convinced me that, just maybe, I'm being a bit too stubborn in my old age. Listening to your thoughts and watching you work - it occurs to me that when I "push" a roll or intentionally slow my shutter when there's lots of action - just maybe - I've allowed myself to wade a little deeper into the "artist" pool and, whatdya know, the water is fine! Good choice of music for the close. She is!
I'm happy if I managed to inspire :-) Thanks. Yeah, I use the word "art", not as anything fancy or that I'd be some kind of an accomplished "artist". I use it to illustrate what these photographs mean to me: they are not documentation, not memories or snapshots of situations. What I enjoy doing is "creating" images that please my own eye. And I want to put an effort into them. So maybe, instead of "art" they are more like "craft" to me, if you know what I mean.
@@ShootOnFilm Ohhh I think you are far too humble or discount your talent, Ari! No one viewing your work could possibly argue that yours does not rise to the level of photographic art!
Well I was surprised. Some of this would be very tricky and time-consuming to do in the darkroom, with lots of paper in the bin. In general, you do more intervention on your scans than I do, although we use many of the same tools. In my experience, the "landscape" of a face is always harder to adjust than the landscape of a landscape, if you know what I mean. Interesting vid.
Thank you for sharing your techniques. I like how you use the radial tool; it gives you control of your edits in small areas that I hadn’t considered because I always do those freehand with dodge and burn brushes. For me, this is best done in Photoshop with a Wacom tablet and pressure stylus, where I make a dodge or burn curve and apply it through the mask I draw with the stylus. The big benefits are that I can control flow and transparency of the application, and also back off the overall effect with less than 100% use of the layer. This is especially helpful in portraits where I can do light retouching to direct attention to the features I want, and lower contrast on distracting details, reduce blemishes, wrinkles, shadows, blotches, you name it. The latest version of Lightroom has vastly improved its editing features with better masking, but I still prefer the control of Photoshop, probably because I just haven’t figured out how to do all the same things in Lightroom. By the way, since you routinely darken your skies, have you considered using gradient filters on your lens? It’s a PITA, I know, but you can get so much more sky detail that way. Filters, especially for your kind of landscapes, should appeal to you in much the same way that equipment and film choice do, but with much more precise control. The options are endless!
Interesting. I guess it's also partially that we get used to a certain tool (Lightroom, Photoshop ...) and then we try to use that tool on as many occasions a we can. I have not yet considered using Photoshop to my edits. Heck, it's part of the package I pay a monthly fee but I have never used it :-) I could use a gradient filter. But, say this episode -- the first picture was taken with a Zodiak 8 lens. No filters are available for that humongous fisheye and no adapters fit into that. The second one was taken with a TLR (dual lens), and a gradient filter is almost impossible to control when you focus through a different lens. But, yes, agree, in fairly rare cases I use say a Hasselblad, that would be an option.
As I remember it, not even close to the amount of time spent in the darkroom. Two prints ready in 10 minutes, not bad. I recently watched a video on how a print of Ansel Adams would change, say 40's to 60's. Makes me wonder what he would think of Lightroom, and the photography of today.
Sure, but I'm notoriously slow in darkroom. But it is also faster if I do a version in the Lightroom first and use that as a starting point for my darkroom work. I then already know where to burn, where to dodge, what kind of contrast is good etc etc. So lightroom is an excellent way to plan darkroom sessions!
I was reading a book on medium and large format photography when I came across this quote. Some people just don’t get it. “Because it is almost invariably cropped - very few photographers shoot good, square pictures, on a regular basis - the effective film area is about the same as for 645, but you only get 12-on instead of 15-on.”
I like your approach to the things you do. I'm a beginner in photography, shooting exclusively on film, developing and printing my photos. I enjoy the process. I often photograph friends and acquaintances, but I realized I won't develop all the shots I made as it simply will take too much time, so I started scanning. Of course, I discovered Lightroom, an incredible tool; I edit my photos similarly to you and share similar thoughts. However, one idea has been bothering me. should I switch to digital if I'm already digitizing my analog shots? No dust, no various dirt. I'm very interested in your opinion. does film still have an advantage over digital, considering most of us use digital tools for our shots?
For me film has several unbeatable advantages: a set of cameras from large sheet from cameras to pinhole cameras and Holgas all the way to mighty Hasselblads; in 4x5 and medium format, film beats digital. I also love the whole process. And a possibility to make a silver gelatin print of every picture I take -- even though I also scan them; but the best ones I print. But above all, and this is most important, shooting film makes me shoot differently. I take different pictures and I like the pictures I'm taking. Here are a few thoughts, if you are interested: th-cam.com/video/6wJb6dsSmkA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kAnw2OBZIPNhLr6L. And thanks for watching and commenting :-)
Interesting to see your techniques! I usually do very minor edits, mostly because when I tried to do more, I can’t get past my head that it doesn’t look correct. Probably because I went too far, or I just can’t get past my head again that it didn’t look that way. Is there a way to get past your own mind when editing? Thanks for a great video!
Interesting Video. Personally I don't use Lightroom and maybe my photos are diminished because of that but that is OK with me. I scan using Silverfast and get my image balance using the Pipette Tool and maybe a slight tweak on the Histogram after that but that is all. I only use HP5+ and use the Less Auto Sharpening setting because anything sharper and the grain changes from soft to sharp grains of sand. For me I want the softness of film and otherwise I feel that I am trying to emulate the modern obsession of over sharpness and everything in focus of digital images so what is the point? Mood and light is for me what B+W film is all about. Cheers and best regards.
Masterful use of lightroom. But where was the theme music? Maybe start with "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" for the first half, followed by Moonlight Shadow by Mike Oldfield. Your daughter is lovely (of course you know that) but sometimes these things need to be vocalized anyway.
I have found editing film in Lightroom needs to be done more cautiously than digital. Push the sliders a bit, and it can be good, push a bit further and it suddenly goes bad, at least in my eyes. I DSLR scan, and do most of the editing in Negative Lab Pro, with final tweaks in Lightroom, remembering that the sliders behave differently. I tend to edit my film images less than my digital images, accepting that the image will not be perfect. Just did some medium format FP4+ but I'm not sure what I think of it yet.
Interesting … perhaps good portrait lighting could achieve a more organic feel … it becomes a digital image the moment you scan ..? I agree any software edit is endless .. I dont know how many times I end up returning to the original and re embarking on this process whether its a film scan or a digital image from my Leica Q Artistic choices is the name of the game
Yeah, that portrait was just a fast snapshot as my daughter was heading out ... it's always better to fix the light at the source -- not in post. Weather in my darkroom or like here, in the lightroom.
I'm sorry, but I doubt that you can get close to the result of a computer-processed photo in the darkroom. It doesn't have much to do with analog photography anymore. It better shooting digital in first place. It is faster and easier.
Oh, I can. Here are some of my darkroom prints -- photographed at the gallery with an iphone: slowlight.us/purchase-prints/ And "faster" and "easier" are not what I'm after at all.
@@gianlusc Thanks thanks -- but I really do understand you. I also spend my days with computers and stuff so I'd like to spend more time with a totally analog workflow. But, these are the times 🙂
Dodge and burn. Dodge and burn. The modernization of the old darkroom processes via Lightroom Classic. Thanks for sharing your stylized approach. Very satisfying with appealing results.
Thanks thanks. And thanks for watching!
Thanks Ari for helping me understand your visualization in practice
Thanks for watching!!
I like that technique as a dry run of the darkroom process. I agree that it can save time and paper. What would really be interesting for me is to watch you print these same photos in the darkroom now that we all know where you want to take them. Thanks.
Great idea!
Beautiful work and lovely picture of your daughter! She is very pretty also. I have been watching your videos recently and learning a lot. I like your style and how you approach your style… very emotionally and yet simple. Very well done and musical! I’m glad I found you! Be safe.. Cheers..
Thank you so much! Very happy to hear!
So interesting to see your use of the Lightroom tool, Ari. Looking at the before/after - the value of the adjustments you make are obvious. At the same time, there is something instinctive that causes me to flinch any time I "edit" my negatives. While I can touch up a photograph now and then it's not something that finds its way into my workflow on the vast majority of my shots. I dont like it. It feels less than honest. (And perhaps I'm just too old!! LOL) But also, you and I approach our work somewhat differently. I never consider mine any form of "art" . . . it's a snapshot . . . a picture - that somehow brings people joy. That's enough. But, as always, you have won me over today and convinced me that, just maybe, I'm being a bit too stubborn in my old age. Listening to your thoughts and watching you work - it occurs to me that when I "push" a roll or intentionally slow my shutter when there's lots of action - just maybe - I've allowed myself to wade a little deeper into the "artist" pool and, whatdya know, the water is fine! Good choice of music for the close. She is!
I'm happy if I managed to inspire :-) Thanks. Yeah, I use the word "art", not as anything fancy or that I'd be some kind of an accomplished "artist". I use it to illustrate what these photographs mean to me: they are not documentation, not memories or snapshots of situations. What I enjoy doing is "creating" images that please my own eye. And I want to put an effort into them. So maybe, instead of "art" they are more like "craft" to me, if you know what I mean.
@@ShootOnFilm Ohhh I think you are far too humble or discount your talent, Ari! No one viewing your work could possibly argue that yours does not rise to the level of photographic art!
Well I was surprised. Some of this would be very tricky and time-consuming to do in the darkroom, with lots of paper in the bin. In general, you do more intervention on your scans than I do, although we use many of the same tools. In my experience, the "landscape" of a face is always harder to adjust than the landscape of a landscape, if you know what I mean. Interesting vid.
Yeah, I believe our brains are extra sensitive to faces. So anything weird there is immediately recognized.
Thank you for sharing your techniques. I like how you use the radial tool; it gives you control of your edits in small areas that I hadn’t considered because I always do those freehand with dodge and burn brushes. For me, this is best done in Photoshop with a Wacom tablet and pressure stylus, where I make a dodge or burn curve and apply it through the mask I draw with the stylus. The big benefits are that I can control flow and transparency of the application, and also back off the overall effect with less than 100% use of the layer. This is especially helpful in portraits where I can do light retouching to direct attention to the features I want, and lower contrast on distracting details, reduce blemishes, wrinkles, shadows, blotches, you name it. The latest version of Lightroom has vastly improved its editing features with better masking, but I still prefer the control of Photoshop, probably because I just haven’t figured out how to do all the same things in Lightroom.
By the way, since you routinely darken your skies, have you considered using gradient filters on your lens? It’s a PITA, I know, but you can get so much more sky detail that way. Filters, especially for your kind of landscapes, should appeal to you in much the same way that equipment and film choice do, but with much more precise control. The options are endless!
Interesting. I guess it's also partially that we get used to a certain tool (Lightroom, Photoshop ...) and then we try to use that tool on as many occasions a we can. I have not yet considered using Photoshop to my edits. Heck, it's part of the package I pay a monthly fee but I have never used it :-)
I could use a gradient filter. But, say this episode -- the first picture was taken with a Zodiak 8 lens. No filters are available for that humongous fisheye and no adapters fit into that. The second one was taken with a TLR (dual lens), and a gradient filter is almost impossible to control when you focus through a different lens. But, yes, agree, in fairly rare cases I use say a Hasselblad, that would be an option.
As I remember it, not even close to the amount of time spent in the darkroom. Two prints ready in 10 minutes, not bad. I recently watched a video on how a print of Ansel Adams would change, say 40's to 60's. Makes me wonder what he would think of Lightroom, and the photography of today.
Sure, but I'm notoriously slow in darkroom. But it is also faster if I do a version in the Lightroom first and use that as a starting point for my darkroom work. I then already know where to burn, where to dodge, what kind of contrast is good etc etc. So lightroom is an excellent way to plan darkroom sessions!
Nice one Ari:)
Microwave door appears open ;) Nice video great work!
Yeah -- I noticed that. I bothers me! :-)
Outstanding
Thanks thanks!
Lightroom is a great tool.
It is, actually ....!
Loved video. I barely use any photoshop.
I have never used Photoshop. Maybe I should ...?
Beautiful Daughter nice edits. Did wife finally sell your piano?
No no, listen to the very end! :-)
I was reading a book on medium and large format photography when I came across this quote. Some people just don’t get it.
“Because it is almost invariably cropped - very few photographers shoot good, square pictures, on a regular basis - the effective film area is about the same as for 645, but you only get 12-on instead of 15-on.”
🙂
I like your approach to the things you do. I'm a beginner in photography, shooting exclusively on film, developing and printing my photos. I enjoy the process. I often photograph friends and acquaintances, but I realized I won't develop all the shots I made as it simply will take too much time, so I started scanning. Of course, I discovered Lightroom, an incredible tool; I edit my photos similarly to you and share similar thoughts. However, one idea has been bothering me. should I switch to digital if I'm already digitizing my analog shots? No dust, no various dirt. I'm very interested in your opinion. does film still have an advantage over digital, considering most of us use digital tools for our shots?
For me film has several unbeatable advantages: a set of cameras from large sheet from cameras to pinhole cameras and Holgas all the way to mighty Hasselblads; in 4x5 and medium format, film beats digital. I also love the whole process. And a possibility to make a silver gelatin print of every picture I take -- even though I also scan them; but the best ones I print. But above all, and this is most important, shooting film makes me shoot differently. I take different pictures and I like the pictures I'm taking. Here are a few thoughts, if you are interested: th-cam.com/video/6wJb6dsSmkA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=kAnw2OBZIPNhLr6L. And thanks for watching and commenting :-)
Well dust getts on all sensors if you change lenses. :( :( :)
Interesting to see your techniques! I usually do very minor edits, mostly because when I tried to do more, I can’t get past my head that it doesn’t look correct. Probably because I went too far, or I just can’t get past my head again that it didn’t look that way. Is there a way to get past your own mind when editing? Thanks for a great video!
It is always a challenge to stop when you need to stop!
How do I enable the option for the coloring as you aluded at 5:57? I can't seem to find that option
You need to be in the Develp mode (Top, middle)
Then, press "j"
Interesting Video. Personally I don't use Lightroom and maybe my photos are diminished because of that but that is OK with me. I scan using Silverfast and get my image balance using the Pipette Tool and maybe a slight tweak on the Histogram after that but that is all. I only use HP5+ and use the Less Auto Sharpening setting because anything sharper and the grain changes from soft to sharp grains of sand. For me I want the softness of film and otherwise I feel that I am trying to emulate the modern obsession of over sharpness and everything in focus of digital images so what is the point? Mood and light is for me what B+W film is all about. Cheers and best regards.
Good choices. One must be careful not to turn film photograph into digital waste :-)
Masterful use of lightroom. But where was the theme music? Maybe start with "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" for the first half, followed by Moonlight Shadow by Mike Oldfield. Your daughter is lovely (of course you know that) but sometimes these things need to be vocalized anyway.
I agree. I should have --- but thanks for watching!
I have found editing film in Lightroom needs to be done more cautiously than digital. Push the sliders a bit, and it can be good, push a bit further and it suddenly goes bad, at least in my eyes. I DSLR scan, and do most of the editing in Negative Lab Pro, with final tweaks in Lightroom, remembering that the sliders behave differently. I tend to edit my film images less than my digital images, accepting that the image will not be perfect. Just did some medium format FP4+ but I'm not sure what I think of it yet.
I often com back later to see if I went too far. It happens ....
For some who Knows Not a lot about LR... Hmmmmmmm :) :) :) Great Stuff (food for thought) ThankYou !!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
What do I win for finding your wonderful dog? Just one point?
Yeah, I'm cheap
But you are treading in dangerous waters... I know. I've been sucked under before. ;-)
I know, I know .....
Interesting … perhaps good portrait lighting could achieve a more organic feel … it becomes a digital image the moment you scan ..? I agree any software edit is endless .. I dont know how many times I end up returning to the original and re embarking on this process whether its a film scan or a digital image from my Leica Q
Artistic choices is the name of the game
Yeah, that portrait was just a fast snapshot as my daughter was heading out ... it's always better to fix the light at the source -- not in post. Weather in my darkroom or like here, in the lightroom.
True .. hard to get family to do Portraits
isn't that your dog at the end of the pier?
And one point goes to... :-) !!!
@@ShootOnFilm Yay!!!
What happened to the darkroom?
Still going strong: th-cam.com/video/WRn74Uep9iU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=f8J3L_eCwdA50gx4 or slowlight.us/purchase-prints/
@@ShootOnFilm Good to hear. Digitally edited prints can look so sterile. AI has the potential to kill photography.
I'm sorry, but I doubt that you can get close to the result of a computer-processed photo in the darkroom. It doesn't have much to do with analog photography anymore. It better shooting digital in first place. It is faster and easier.
Oh, I can. Here are some of my darkroom prints -- photographed at the gallery with an iphone: slowlight.us/purchase-prints/
And "faster" and "easier" are not what I'm after at all.
Hell no! I spend 8 hours a day 5 days a week at the computer for work (architecture). Not a single minute for my hobbies 😅😅
I hear you!!
@@ShootOnFilmI still watched the video and enjoyed it a lot. 😊👍🏻👍🏻
@@gianlusc Thanks thanks -- but I really do understand you. I also spend my days with computers and stuff so I'd like to spend more time with a totally analog workflow. But, these are the times 🙂
too much...
:-)