Something I noticed is that the show very often makes the character who’s in the right look totally insane to us, the viewers. It’s great at it. It does it most often with Skyler, but an example with Walt is after Jesse is tricked into thinking he saved Mike from those guys on a pickup run. The whole thing was a ruse. Walt correctly identifies this and tells Jesse, but to the audience it sounds like Walt is being mean and condescending to Jesse even though he’s dead right and we KNOW he’s right.
In regards to the 'cheating' I don't see it as cheating at all. To her, they are separated, the relationship is over and Walt wouldn't let her leave. She was a hostage. Her sleeping with Ted was to show Walt that their marriage is definitively over, regardless of whether he allows it to be so on paper.
@@1x4 Because you seem to believe that when a relationship is over but the couple is still married on paper they're not allowed to sleep with other people, which the word "cheating" (which Skyler didn't do) implies.
During my binge watching of the series I didn't mind Skylar's Character all that much. To me, she felt the most grounded of them all--My only gripes with her character was when she cheated on Walter with Ted, and tried to divorce him and of course, her hypocracy. While I don't think it was a bad move--per se--there were much better ways she could've gone about it. Like ya know _not_ boning Ted. On the whole you can understand her motives, and doing what she does, but I can't help but feel there are better options that could've been taken. Had Walter potentially told her early on, while she might've hated his guts, we're shown that she grew to understand it and while not necessarily support his business at least ensure he was doing it right.
I feel that my watchthough of breaking bad the first ep does an excellent job of setting up the lack of intimacy between walter and skyler. Their failing marriage is the catalyst of breaking bad, the cancer diagnosis just seals the deal. There's also something to be said about skyler having just as little respect and even less autonomy than walter in the beginning of the story...
I’ve always found the ‘’misogyny’’ argument for why people dislike Skylar, as an easy and inaccurate answer… and I’m glad that you’ve come with different conclusions. I find it natural to find a Moral, responsible and normal person irritating or boring, in a show that is about Breaking bad… It’s simply working against what makes the show entertaining. It’s very clear that Skylar is a character, that tries to prevent Walt from ‘’Breaking bad’’ which for the viewers means, that Skylar actively tries to stop the entertaining parts of the series… because she’s the responsible, morale and right person... but is very clearly becoming annoying because of that, and seems to give of the ‘’don’t do that, it’s dangerous’’ kind of person vibe. Skylar is of course also not without her faults and her controlling behavior, her sometimes inability to see things from other perspectives (like the talking pillow argument with Marie) plus her infidelity and in many cases her huge overreactions, her manipulative behaviors… makes her more settable to be seen as annoying. I don’t particularly find Skylar very annoying, and I found many of her behaviors natural in the context of her situation, but I can at the same time understand why people would find her annoying… and I can’t see why her being a Woman (other than women sometimes tent to be more responsible than most men) should be the problem. I would maybe wish that people had more sympathy for her, but I think it’s fair to state that she has annoying characteristics, but so do many from the show. I for once found Jesse to be annoying in the beginning… and of course Marie, Lydia, Todd and many others have been annoying (even Saul yes!) Overall… Skylar can be quite annoying, and it’s not because she is a woman… it’s because she is annoying sometimes. And btw, great video!
Exactly! We don't even see when they meet or get together for the first time, so how are we to know Skylar was intentionally being controlling? Walt literally SA-ed her multiple times and made all sorts of threats while she did nothing of the sort.
@@OrbyStormy420 He didn't do it "multiple times". She reciprocated every time but once. And as for the controlling aspect...this video details exactly why that's not a correct take. She is tries to control EVERYONE. Walt is just better at it. However, she is almost entirely in the right when held up against Walt. She's not a good person, and she is also a victim. Walter ruined her entire life when she didn't actually do anything to deserve it. The relationship is...nuanced, but there's not really an argument to be made that Skyler is ever in the wrong with how she tries to deal with Walt's activities. Aside from maybe confronting Jesse. But it pales in comparison to her husband trying to become a drug kingpin under her nose, so...yeah.
After watching the show and this video you still say that Skyler didn't have a controlling personality, i can safely say you are the manipulator or have never been in a toxic relationship. Stay innocent.
I'd argue against this. As annoying as she is, and she is very annoying, she's shown herself to be a very caring and devout wife to her stressed out husband. Through thick and thin, she was right there beside him supporting him and giving him the motivation he needed to be the best version of himself. Really strong character shown there. Whatever Marie did, she never smoked cigarettes while pregnant and slept with her boss while married. First season I would have agreed with you but throughout the show, she really grew on me.
Breaking Bad has always been about wasted potential, not really much else. Walter White is a BRILLIANT chemist, and due to him selling his shares for a couple thousand when Grey Matter went on to become a multi BILLION dollar company, became a high school chemistry teacher and then got lung cancer. How would you feel, as a man, if you had THAT mind and specialized skills and weren't able to provide for your family, while your wife wants you basically servile, getting handouts from your VASTLY more successful colleagues? He learns how much money CAN be made in the meth business, and being a phenomenal chemist, knows how to make almost 100% pure meth. The journey from beta male, only getting sex on his birthday and pity handies while she shops online to drug kingpin is the life most people only really dream of. Not the actual crimes and toxic behavior, but taking control of our lives with skills we've acquired. Skylar is shown to have basically no skills beyond basic accounting skills, and for the vast majority of the show, she's a housewife who has a high school teacher and car-wash worker as a husband, and now one that has inoperable lung cancer. Her only real goal, understandably, is to have Walt live, but to do that, he and her would have to beg for handouts from Gretchen and Elliot. And what kind of life would Walt even have if he did do all that? Lying in his bed, while his wife and son care for him and every ounce of respect and manhood withering away. We the audience hate Skylar more than pretty much everyone else in the show, because she is the one stopping Walt from taking control of his life and living it the way HE wants. The intervention scene is possibly the most important in the series, as it showcases Skylar's narcissism, only thinking about how it would affect her. Marie, even as a kleptomaniac, understands that Walt, being dealt a pretty shit hand, wants some semblance of autonomy. Even Hank sheepishly agrees, that he should be able to make the decision to die how he wants, but Skylar just doesn't want him to die at all, despite reality staring her directly in the face.
She has good moments like tricking the IRS, strongarming the carwash negotiation, tricking the locksmith, commandeering Saul's henchmen team for her own purposes, intimidating Ted into silence...she's kind of an evil mastermind on her own like 20% of the time. The problem is the annoying nervous wreck she's the other 80%. I don't like using the word hysterical when talking about any woman, but she specifically just is and it is grating. For being emotional there's already Jesse.
I actually don't hate Skylar so much as I hate the writing for her. Whenever Skylar is in a scene the show feels like it grinds to a screeching halt and I just want to turn it off or look at my phone instead. Sure she is annoying and supposed to be a foil for Walt but you can have that and still write an interesting character and that's where Skylar fails. She is just so incredibly boring to watch.
One of the most bothersome things about Skylar for me is her over sheltering her son from the truth. He wasn’t little kid he was almost an adult, he deserved to know what was going on and the danger he was being put in. It was also indirectly implied that Walter Jr disability was caused by Skylar smoking while she was pregnant with him
OH SHOOT. I never thought about that, but yes she probably did cause Walt Jr.'s condition in the womb. And the same goes for Holly, we just didn't see her grow up yet. While the danger that Walter puts his children in is theoretical, as in, they were never actually hurt, Skyler damaged them for life. And she didn't get 80M for smoking those cigarettes.
She was a victim though. You only found her annoying because Walter was just more interesting because of how Evil he was. Yes I know Skylar did some bad things but when you in a abusive relationship with a guy who does meth, you tend to do dumb stuff.
1. Stonewalling Walter and Marie instead of trying to understand them and help them. 2. Not listening to her lawyer 3. Cheating on Walter out of revenge 4. Giving 600K that Walter earned to Ted without telling Walter 5. Just being self centered and a buzzkill.
You’re lowkey hating on Walt and trying to make Skyler sound like she’s a better person than she actually is and you said she didn’t want any of the money?? Then why did she do so much lying to not lose it? Answer that 😂
How objectively wrong can someone be about Skyler's "cheating"? (Cheating is when one party in a monogamous relationship sleeps with an outside party, and since Walt and Skyler weren't in a relationship, monogamous or otherwise, it wasn't cheating) Walt wouldn't accept that their relationship was over and that Skyler wanted Walt and the accompanying mortal danger his illegal activities bring out of the house and away from the children. Walt called Skyler's bluff about reporting him to the police, so with no options left she threw her sexcapade with Ted in his face.
Fun fact: You don’t have to pick a side, you can hate both of them, Walter is a sociopath and Skyler is a hypocrite, like either be on his side or turn him in
@@Oskir_SchlickarssonI think that’s why there’s so many Skyler sympathizers. They believe they need to take a side because so many people want Walt to win. Walt was a monster, Skyler was a hypocritical pos herself, and my boy Hank deserved better.
* Spoiler Alert * it broke my heart, seeing Walt so lonely and paying for friends in the end 😢 … I wish Skyler/family wasn’t so stiff acting and more understanding… The things that Walt did is very wrong and no excuses for them… ( especially the Jane, Brock, Gail, plane incident) ..however, I truly believe that he only attacked those that was a threat to him first #rip
Serial killers, psychopaths, and drug dealers vs a wife that cheated once and nagged her husband who was murdering and dealing drugs. That's a smooth brain take.
She isn't annoying. Walter was the annoying one. Skylar made a few mistakes but overall was trying to do the right thing but Walt was a manipulative bastard.
Something I noticed is that the show very often makes the character who’s in the right look totally insane to us, the viewers. It’s great at it. It does it most often with Skyler, but an example with Walt is after Jesse is tricked into thinking he saved Mike from those guys on a pickup run. The whole thing was a ruse. Walt correctly identifies this and tells Jesse, but to the audience it sounds like Walt is being mean and condescending to Jesse even though he’s dead right and we KNOW he’s right.
I thought this videos has hundreds of thousand views. So good and detailed
In regards to the 'cheating' I don't see it as cheating at all. To her, they are separated, the relationship is over and Walt wouldn't let her leave. She was a hostage. Her sleeping with Ted was to show Walt that their marriage is definitively over, regardless of whether he allows it to be so on paper.
By law they are married. Therefore, cheating. It doesn't matter how she FEELS.
@@1x4 Least misogynistic Breaking Bad fan
@@1x4 A marriage license isn't a title of ownership over another person's body.
@@szeddezs What the flck does that have to do with her cheating?
@@1x4 Because you seem to believe that when a relationship is over but the couple is still married on paper they're not allowed to sleep with other people, which the word "cheating" (which Skyler didn't do) implies.
5:43 Tysm for not playing the audio at this part. I cant even convey my gratitude.
Walter haters are no different than Skyler haters.
During my binge watching of the series I didn't mind Skylar's Character all that much. To me, she felt the most grounded of them all--My only gripes with her character was when she cheated on Walter with Ted, and tried to divorce him and of course, her hypocracy. While I don't think it was a bad move--per se--there were much better ways she could've gone about it. Like ya know _not_ boning Ted.
On the whole you can understand her motives, and doing what she does, but I can't help but feel there are better options that could've been taken. Had Walter potentially told her early on, while she might've hated his guts, we're shown that she grew to understand it and while not necessarily support his business at least ensure he was doing it right.
She was a control freak. Snooping all the time
I feel that my watchthough of breaking bad the first ep does an excellent job of setting up the lack of intimacy between walter and skyler. Their failing marriage is the catalyst of breaking bad, the cancer diagnosis just seals the deal. There's also something to be said about skyler having just as little respect and even less autonomy than walter in the beginning of the story...
finally, a proper nuanced analysis on the characters of walter and skyler, thank you and keep up the good work
I’ve always found the ‘’misogyny’’ argument for why people dislike Skylar, as an easy and inaccurate answer… and I’m glad that you’ve come with different conclusions. I find it natural to find a Moral, responsible and normal person irritating or boring, in a show that is about Breaking bad… It’s simply working against what makes the show entertaining. It’s very clear that Skylar is a character, that tries to prevent Walt from ‘’Breaking bad’’ which for the viewers means, that Skylar actively tries to stop the entertaining parts of the series… because she’s the responsible, morale and right person... but is very clearly becoming annoying because of that, and seems to give of the ‘’don’t do that, it’s dangerous’’ kind of person vibe. Skylar is of course also not without her faults and her controlling behavior, her sometimes inability to see things from other perspectives (like the talking pillow argument with Marie) plus her infidelity and in many cases her huge overreactions, her manipulative behaviors… makes her more settable to be seen as annoying. I don’t particularly find Skylar very annoying, and I found many of her behaviors natural in the context of her situation, but I can at the same time understand why people would find her annoying… and I can’t see why her being a Woman (other than women sometimes tent to be more responsible than most men) should be the problem. I would maybe wish that people had more sympathy for her, but I think it’s fair to state that she has annoying characteristics, but so do many from the show. I for once found Jesse to be annoying in the beginning… and of course Marie, Lydia, Todd and many others have been annoying (even Saul yes!) Overall… Skylar can be quite annoying, and it’s not because she is a woman… it’s because she is annoying sometimes. And btw, great video!
100% totally agree! Jesse in the begging I also found to be really annoying so I’m really glad he got the character arc he did
You have autism or something?
Yeah I didn't notice any controlling personality in Skyler, thats walter
Exactly! We don't even see when they meet or get together for the first time, so how are we to know Skylar was intentionally being controlling?
Walt literally SA-ed her multiple times and made all sorts of threats while she did nothing of the sort.
@@OrbyStormy420 He didn't do it "multiple times". She reciprocated every time but once.
And as for the controlling aspect...this video details exactly why that's not a correct take. She is tries to control EVERYONE. Walt is just better at it.
However, she is almost entirely in the right when held up against Walt. She's not a good person, and she is also a victim. Walter ruined her entire life when she didn't actually do anything to deserve it. The relationship is...nuanced, but there's not really an argument to be made that Skyler is ever in the wrong with how she tries to deal with Walt's activities. Aside from maybe confronting Jesse. But it pales in comparison to her husband trying to become a drug kingpin under her nose, so...yeah.
After watching the show and this video you still say that Skyler didn't have a controlling personality, i can safely say you are the manipulator or have never been in a toxic relationship. Stay innocent.
Great job Claire! I wish you success here on TH-cam! 😊
Good video
Thank you! :)
Marie is arguably worst just from how annoying she is
I can get behind that honestly 😭
I'd argue against this. As annoying as she is, and she is very annoying, she's shown herself to be a very caring and devout wife to her stressed out husband. Through thick and thin, she was right there beside him supporting him and giving him the motivation he needed to be the best version of himself. Really strong character shown there. Whatever Marie did, she never smoked cigarettes while pregnant and slept with her boss while married. First season I would have agreed with you but throughout the show, she really grew on me.
@@SatanicKaleyou can have the most caring person in the world, but if they're annoying, you still don't want to hang out with them or be near them.
Breaking Bad has always been about wasted potential, not really much else. Walter White is a BRILLIANT chemist, and due to him selling his shares for a couple thousand when Grey Matter went on to become a multi BILLION dollar company, became a high school chemistry teacher and then got lung cancer. How would you feel, as a man, if you had THAT mind and specialized skills and weren't able to provide for your family, while your wife wants you basically servile, getting handouts from your VASTLY more successful colleagues? He learns how much money CAN be made in the meth business, and being a phenomenal chemist, knows how to make almost 100% pure meth. The journey from beta male, only getting sex on his birthday and pity handies while she shops online to drug kingpin is the life most people only really dream of. Not the actual crimes and toxic behavior, but taking control of our lives with skills we've acquired.
Skylar is shown to have basically no skills beyond basic accounting skills, and for the vast majority of the show, she's a housewife who has a high school teacher and car-wash worker as a husband, and now one that has inoperable lung cancer. Her only real goal, understandably, is to have Walt live, but to do that, he and her would have to beg for handouts from Gretchen and Elliot. And what kind of life would Walt even have if he did do all that? Lying in his bed, while his wife and son care for him and every ounce of respect and manhood withering away.
We the audience hate Skylar more than pretty much everyone else in the show, because she is the one stopping Walt from taking control of his life and living it the way HE wants. The intervention scene is possibly the most important in the series, as it showcases Skylar's narcissism, only thinking about how it would affect her. Marie, even as a kleptomaniac, understands that Walt, being dealt a pretty shit hand, wants some semblance of autonomy. Even Hank sheepishly agrees, that he should be able to make the decision to die how he wants, but Skylar just doesn't want him to die at all, despite reality staring her directly in the face.
She has good moments like tricking the IRS, strongarming the carwash negotiation, tricking the locksmith, commandeering Saul's henchmen team for her own purposes, intimidating Ted into silence...she's kind of an evil mastermind on her own like 20% of the time. The problem is the annoying nervous wreck she's the other 80%. I don't like using the word hysterical when talking about any woman, but she specifically just is and it is grating. For being emotional there's already Jesse.
Hated character.. not person,we all know Walter is worse
I actually don't hate Skylar so much as I hate the writing for her.
Whenever Skylar is in a scene the show feels like it grinds to a screeching halt and I just want to turn it off or look at my phone instead.
Sure she is annoying and supposed to be a foil for Walt but you can have that and still write an interesting character and that's where Skylar fails. She is just so incredibly boring to watch.
I think Skyler is bad, only nowhere near as bad as Walter
great video british person
One of the most bothersome things about Skylar for me is her over sheltering her son from the truth. He wasn’t little kid he was almost an adult, he deserved to know what was going on and the danger he was being put in. It was also indirectly implied that Walter Jr disability was caused by Skylar smoking while she was pregnant with him
OH SHOOT. I never thought about that, but yes she probably did cause Walt Jr.'s condition in the womb. And the same goes for Holly, we just didn't see her grow up yet. While the danger that Walter puts his children in is theoretical, as in, they were never actually hurt, Skyler damaged them for life. And she didn't get 80M for smoking those cigarettes.
As a loser, i love to see walter transform from the lil shmuk he was to Heisenberg even considering what he did i still understand why did it
Great video btw idk why people hate skyler that much
shes also just very annoying all the time
Not as bad as Marie honestly
She was a victim though. You only found her annoying because Walter was just more interesting because of how Evil he was. Yes I know Skylar did some bad things but when you in a abusive relationship with a guy who does meth, you tend to do dumb stuff.
@@haha610I loved her acting in the last few episodes but yeah she was annoying but she wasn't exactly a bad character.
1. Stonewalling Walter and Marie instead of trying to understand them and help them.
2. Not listening to her lawyer
3. Cheating on Walter out of revenge
4. Giving 600K that Walter earned to Ted without telling Walter
5. Just being self centered and a buzzkill.
Wah wah wah you hate her cuz she is based
You’re lowkey hating on Walt and trying to make Skyler sound like she’s a better person than she actually is and you said she didn’t want any of the money?? Then why did she do so much lying to not lose it? Answer that 😂
She didn’t care that much about the money, it was about not ruining the family
How objectively wrong can someone be about Skyler's "cheating"? (Cheating is when one party in a monogamous relationship sleeps with an outside party, and since Walt and Skyler weren't in a relationship, monogamous or otherwise, it wasn't cheating)
Walt wouldn't accept that their relationship was over and that Skyler wanted Walt and the accompanying mortal danger his illegal activities bring out of the house and away from the children. Walt called Skyler's bluff about reporting him to the police, so with no options left she threw her sexcapade with Ted in his face.
Promo'SM
She cheated on Ted for revenge...
Skyler was a c unt
She was a victim. You need to re-watch the show and pay more attention to her character.
Fun fact: You don’t have to pick a side, you can hate both of them, Walter is a sociopath and Skyler is a hypocrite, like either be on his side or turn him in
@@Oskir_SchlickarssonI think that’s why there’s so many Skyler sympathizers. They believe they need to take a side because so many people want Walt to win. Walt was a monster, Skyler was a hypocritical pos herself, and my boy Hank deserved better.
@ you mean Walt was a momster right?
* Spoiler Alert * it broke my heart, seeing Walt so lonely and paying for friends in the end 😢 … I wish Skyler/family wasn’t so stiff acting and more understanding… The things that Walt did is very wrong and no excuses for them… ( especially the Jane, Brock, Gail, plane incident) ..however, I truly believe that he only attacked those that was a threat to him first #rip
I mean from his family’s perspective he had just killed Hank and kidnapped his own daughter
I don’t think Mike was a threat to him as that point
Skyler was the most evil character in the series. Bar none.
So you support Walter? Someone who is far worse evil then anyone in the entire show? This says alot about you.
Serial killers, psychopaths, and drug dealers vs a wife that cheated once and nagged her husband who was murdering and dealing drugs. That's a smooth brain take.
What the fuck does bar none mean
Because she’s annoying. End of video
She isn't annoying. Walter was the annoying one. Skylar made a few mistakes but overall was trying to do the right thing but Walt was a manipulative bastard.
Didn’t watch Breaking Bad, so I won’t watch this, cause I still want to watch it, so untill then…. Hi.
Understandable, have a nice day.
Hi! You definitely should watch it! I rewatched it all just for this video and fell in love with it again 😭