I'm so glad I finally passed that phase. I went from chasing boutique amps until settling upon Amplitube on my MacBook... then I woke up. Who am I kidding, I can't fix this addiction 😅
Dude you have found your space in this TH-cam/online world and it's become one of my favorite channels. Alongside Rick Beato Rhett Shul, and JHS, I look forward to your videos almost daily. BTW, good voice too. Since I've had to medically retire, I've lost the ability to play guitar or piano and I've replaced a lifetime of playing with watching you and a few others. So, from a old hippie, I'm really thankful to be able to listen and play vicariously through you. Thanks. Peace ✌️
as a drummer listening to your channel I am finding these videos fascinating and I never knew how similar we drummers and guitar players really are when it comes to our sound. I wanted to hear you sing that song in it's entirety.
Sounds fantastic! The Royer 121 does so much heavy lifting for guitar tones. I remember when I watched Beato's video talking about the classic combo of a 121 & SM57 and IMO like 95% of the tone was because of the 121, lol.
A little late to the party on this video, but had to just thank you for rocking a capo on electric guitar. Some people feel it’s a blasphemous crutch, but I see it as a useful tool that ultimately makes great music! However, you don’t think using a capo like the D’addario NS Pro with a thumb wheel would give you more control over ensuring you don’t throw the guitar out of tune like gator style capos tend to because they’re too tight for electric strings (especially when paired with thinner necks)? I use the aforementioned D’addario capo on both acoustic and electric and love being able to dial in just the right amount of tension. If you’ve never tried a capo with a thumb wheel, please do! Tyvm!
Mike... you are absolutely killing it. Thank you for the great content. As a guitar hobbyists who's motivation ebbs and flows, your content is a breath of fresh air that constantly rekindles the fire. Strong work!
im so sick of opening youtube and always watching political discourse, social unacceptance and overall complaints and negative criticism/gossip of almost anyone, so every time I see a video from you about whatever guitar topic, I get so relieved there are still people finding purpose in their own way instead of shitting on the world
That was fun and instructive! Great groove and lovely playing, to boot. Really enjoyed this. Except for the part where I'm reminded of how often I don't GIRATS.
Mike, you make nice content. But if there is one thing that ribbon mics dont do well, its flat frequency response. Which as it turns out, is good for players of electric guitar, and recorders of guitar amplifiers. The Royer 121, has an unusual freq curve(for a ribbon mic), dipping in the low mids, bumping at about 5k, and then sloping gently down to about 12 to 15k, and then gently sloping up toward 20k, where it more or less flattens out. There are other ribbon mics, Coles 4038, and AEA ribbon mics that exhibit the usual ribbon mic response, which is a large bump in the low mids and a pronounced dip between 8 and 10k which makes then unusually dark, and in need of EQ when mix time comes along.And then there is the speaker in a Princeton, which cannot reproduce much of anything above 8k. Which is why ribbons and coil mics like the SM57 are a natural match for recording guitar amps. Another ribbon that is a wonderful match is the Beyer 160, especially when paired with a 57...
I remember when my friend loaned me a real Klon Centaur and played it through a cranked Music Man RD050,,,it sounded so incredible, I told my friend that I had a "tone moment". I feel ya!
Orange th100 is the amp I mic up for all my songs with The Othersiders & we use 4 mics to record one amp all at once. I think it’s the mics that gives the best ability to reach the time you want. Personally. Pickups, speakers, mics. Those are the true Trinity of Tone imho
I could never set up pedals and amps, I'm barely a hobbyist. I bought a Spark 40 watt and was blessed with a functional unit lol. I just search an artist on my phone and it sets everything for me. I don't have much time to devote to this anymore.
love your style of videos man, new sub. not a guitarist but as a trumpet player who plays through guitar fx pedals I can resonate with what you say a lot.
I feel like, as an audio engineer, I never worried too much about tone because I knew I could shape it with plugins after recording. I never use a mic to record, I just go out of the cab sim from my amp.
HI ! First, one of your best tone since i know you and what a progress in like 1 year that i know you ! so clap clap clap congrats ! Then, one of your best technical video and i like the way you describe the "new" world of "room guitarist". Not all of youtubers describe the "real" way to produice & record .... our music in this upcomming internet/electronic room world ! ^^ thx for all !
Ps: And now the real question is VST or Amp + Mic ? I spend a lot of time looking for tone with hardware (amp and mic) ... then now ... VST ... less expenssive ... huummm ... Neural DSP ... OMG ^^ not that bad XD what's next ? go back hardware or not ?
I never had a lot of money and still don’t, so I just practiced and learned songs and didn’t really care about capturing a certain guitar players tone. I cared more about learning songs and music theory. It’s just been recently I’ve gotten into gear and I’m glad I didn’t waste money on crazy expensive gear.
Me- no guitar experience except the 15 minutes I sat with a classical guitar when I was 10. Also me- Oh! Mike is schooling about how to mic up a recording!... I GOTTA watch this!!!
How’re you liking the R10 after trying out the R121? I’ve only owned an SM57 and am wanting to add a ribbon mic to the fold, but I heard the R10 actually has a good amount of overlap with the SM57 (speaking of chasing tone lol) Great video man!
I would love to hear the finished track! I am as guilty as anybody of thinking a ton about guitars, pickups, strings etc. and completely ignoring the back half of my signal chain (the speaker and the mic). It's easy to forget where the sound actually comes from. I've only interacted with digital models of the 121, but it's always the "mic" I choose when using a modeler. Both the 121 and the 10 sounded glorious in this video. How do you place your mics?
I've been wanting to get the Monoprice / Stage Right ribbon mic to test out so bad. I haven't mic'd an amplifier in like 15 years but I've really wanted to
As a guitarist, I chased great tone for years. Most of us do. But we don't think enough about (this is the part he's saying most of us miss) the link between the amazing sound coming out of our amps and getting that sound to record well. The choice of microphone is everything, and a good ribbon mic will "hear" the amp amazingly well. Other mics can sound good too, but if you want to capture THAT sound, the way you hear it at your amp, a ribbon mic does it best, by far. When I learned that in 1997 (from Dave Royer a year before we opened Royer Labs), I thought it was going to change every guitarist's life. -John Jennings
@@royerlabs Personally I've spent more money on microphones than guitars, and I own and love your R121. But the angle of the video was off. Not all guitarist are recording artist or need to be. And if they need to record, I think if 99.9% of guitarist will find a way to capture the tone that works for them, because they would also care about how they capture their tone... last week Mike raved about the ox and that its not even important to be mic'ing up any cabinets nowadays.. Sims and stuff is not for me, but there are many ways to Rome! To be frank, it feels a bit disingenuous to show off the OX as the new solution to everything one week, and then say that all guitarists are wrong for not using Royer mic's the next week. There is something off about that pitch, when it doesn't need to be. Royer mics are great in any case. It would look much better to focus on the actual qualities of the microphones, than to say guitarist dont care about their recorded tone for not using Royer. Mike is obviously talented. But for viewers, I think it's important that these recommendations feels genuine when you are receiving this high end gear to promote. It felt like a poor sales pitch. I'm sorry. Still watching
I'm so glad I finally passed that phase. I went from chasing boutique amps until settling upon Amplitube on my MacBook... then I woke up. Who am I kidding, I can't fix this addiction 😅
I’m still on the guitar phase. Gotta get a bigger home before I get to the amp phase.
Pretty sure I need a Les Paul with a Jazzmaster trem and Green Magic pups
Id strongly suggest Neural DSP, nothing comes close
Dude you have found your space in this TH-cam/online world and it's become one of my favorite channels. Alongside Rick Beato Rhett Shul, and JHS, I look forward to your videos almost daily. BTW, good voice too.
Since I've had to medically retire, I've lost the ability to play guitar or piano and I've replaced a lifetime of playing with watching you and a few others. So, from a old hippie, I'm really thankful to be able to listen and play vicariously through you.
Thanks.
Peace ✌️
as a drummer listening to your channel I am finding these videos fascinating and I never knew how similar we drummers and guitar players really are when it comes to our sound. I wanted to hear you sing that song in it's entirety.
Sounds fantastic! The Royer 121 does so much heavy lifting for guitar tones. I remember when I watched Beato's video talking about the classic combo of a 121 & SM57 and IMO like 95% of the tone was because of the 121, lol.
A little late to the party on this video, but had to just thank you for rocking a capo on electric guitar. Some people feel it’s a blasphemous crutch, but I see it as a useful tool that ultimately makes great music! However, you don’t think using a capo like the D’addario NS Pro with a thumb wheel would give you more control over ensuring you don’t throw the guitar out of tune like gator style capos tend to because they’re too tight for electric strings (especially when paired with thinner necks)? I use the aforementioned D’addario capo on both acoustic and electric and love being able to dial in just the right amount of tension. If you’ve never tried a capo with a thumb wheel, please do! Tyvm!
Mike... you are absolutely killing it. Thank you for the great content. As a guitar hobbyists who's motivation ebbs and flows, your content is a breath of fresh air that constantly rekindles the fire. Strong work!
Loved the sound of that doubled acoustic part!
im so sick of opening youtube and always watching political discourse, social unacceptance and overall complaints and negative criticism/gossip of almost anyone, so every time I see a video from you about whatever guitar topic, I get so relieved there are still people finding purpose in their own way instead of shitting on the world
coll mike. At 53 years old I dont know how to do all this recording stuff. Keep up the good work and Have A Nice Day my friend. God Bless
So true! Spent so many years chasing tone. Oh wait, still chasing! It's because it gives us infinite inspiration :)
That was fun and instructive! Great groove and lovely playing, to boot. Really enjoyed this. Except for the part where I'm reminded of how often I don't GIRATS.
Mike, you make nice content. But if there is one thing that ribbon mics dont do well, its flat frequency response. Which as it turns out, is good for players of electric guitar, and recorders of guitar amplifiers. The Royer 121, has an unusual freq curve(for a ribbon mic), dipping in the low mids, bumping at about 5k, and then sloping gently down to about 12 to 15k, and then gently sloping up toward 20k, where it more or less flattens out. There are other ribbon mics, Coles 4038, and AEA ribbon mics that exhibit the usual ribbon mic response, which is a large bump in the low mids and a pronounced dip between 8 and 10k which makes then unusually dark, and in need of EQ when mix time comes along.And then there is the speaker in a Princeton, which cannot reproduce much of anything above 8k. Which is why ribbons and coil mics like the SM57 are a natural match for recording guitar amps. Another ribbon that is a wonderful match is the Beyer 160, especially when paired with a 57...
I would definitely like to hear more of that project!
Wow i love watching this guy, he really speaks to me.
My answer for chasing tone was buying an acoustic guitar. Problem solved (for me).
No difference guitar or guitar or Taylor to Martin for you?
@@LucasJRice Ofcourse but i'm thankful with what i've got and the endless fiddling with settings has practically disappeared from my musical life.
I remember when my friend loaned me a real Klon Centaur and played it through a cranked Music Man RD050,,,it sounded so incredible, I told my friend that I had a "tone moment". I feel ya!
that bass tone of the 121 is perfect, maybe combine with an SM57 oder Large Condenser for the high end. 🎙🎤
when mike releases a new video, my whole day gets better.
Orange th100 is the amp I mic up for all my songs with The Othersiders & we use 4 mics to record one amp all at once. I think it’s the mics that gives the best ability to reach the time you want. Personally. Pickups, speakers, mics. Those are the true Trinity of Tone imho
i use the ribbon mic ir on my fender tm dr for recording myself , sounds great .
I could never set up pedals and amps, I'm barely a hobbyist. I bought a Spark 40 watt and was blessed with a functional unit lol. I just search an artist on my phone and it sets everything for me. I don't have much time to devote to this anymore.
Ooo that snare slaps
Great job on these videos, Mike. You do a fantastic job of making this stuff approachable by anyone, regardless of experience, skill, or gear. Thanks!
love your style of videos man, new sub. not a guitarist but as a trumpet player who plays through guitar fx pedals I can resonate with what you say a lot.
Great video, thank you! Love the sound of that song too
Haha another Joe Gilder fan here. You are a man of eloquence and taste.
R10 sounds better on that last John Mayer riff IMO. Love the video
I feel like, as an audio engineer, I never worried too much about tone because I knew I could shape it with plugins after recording. I never use a mic to record, I just go out of the cab sim from my amp.
HI !
First, one of your best tone since i know you and what a progress in like 1 year that i know you ! so clap clap clap congrats !
Then, one of your best technical video and i like the way you describe the "new" world of "room guitarist". Not all of youtubers describe the "real" way to produice & record .... our music in this upcomming internet/electronic room world ! ^^
thx for all !
Ps: And now the real question is VST or Amp + Mic ? I spend a lot of time looking for tone with hardware (amp and mic) ... then now ... VST ... less expenssive ... huummm ... Neural DSP ... OMG ^^ not that bad XD what's next ? go back hardware or not ?
I agree 100.1 %
Deffo finish that track, man! I didn't know you sang too, get it bro!
Mike you've got a good singing voice
I never had a lot of money and still don’t, so I just practiced and learned songs and didn’t really care about capturing a certain guitar players tone. I cared more about learning songs and music theory. It’s just been recently I’ve gotten into gear and I’m glad I didn’t waste money on crazy expensive gear.
I’m one of the forgetful. In the thumbnail, I thought that was the “flashy thingy” from the Men in Black movies. Thanks for the video and info
Very nice video - thanks for sharing
Me- no guitar experience except the 15 minutes I sat with a classical guitar when I was 10.
Also me- Oh! Mike is schooling about how to mic up a recording!... I GOTTA watch this!!!
Dude, I am a Huuuuge fan of Game of Love. In fact I think it’s the song of the 00s. Top notch vocals and guitar phrasing. What a smash.
Someone telling me to get a ribbon mic saved my sanity
Hi mike keep up good work
How’re you liking the R10 after trying out the R121? I’ve only owned an SM57 and am wanting to add a ribbon mic to the fold, but I heard the R10 actually has a good amount of overlap with the SM57 (speaking of chasing tone lol) Great video man!
Hey, where can I find that song? The acoustic guitar was a great call. I’d love to hear the finished product. (That is a pretty mad Tele!)
Great video, but you kept mentioning how important mic placement is but never actually explained where you placed your mic and why lol
We love this video too! Here's some good info on ribbon mic placement - th-cam.com/video/ksm9hUpbkdQ/w-d-xo.html
@@royerlabs thanks for the link!
99.9% Percent of Guitar Players forget that Mike can actually really sing too
Really good :)!
Finish it!!!!!
The background music is ?
I think your Mike placement is more important than Mic placement.
When you say we “forgot” and I saw your thumbnail, I thought that mic was that thing from men in black. 🤣
I would love to hear the finished track! I am as guilty as anybody of thinking a ton about guitars, pickups, strings etc. and completely ignoring the back half of my signal chain (the speaker and the mic). It's easy to forget where the sound actually comes from.
I've only interacted with digital models of the 121, but it's always the "mic" I choose when using a modeler. Both the 121 and the 10 sounded glorious in this video. How do you place your mics?
anybody got any cheaper recs for ribbon mics?
I've been wanting to get the Monoprice / Stage Right ribbon mic to test out so bad. I haven't mic'd an amplifier in like 15 years but I've really wanted to
Pinnacle (used to be Cascade)
awesome
Finish the track!
Mics are so important
Nice,
Nice
Yo. His gear is upgraded every month!
finish it
Sounds pretty much the same out of my iPad speakers 😂😂. Nice playing though.
C'mon finish it please!
cables? you kidding me?
My two cents as a music producer: get a really loud amp. Get a really good mic. Play around with those two
Ah shit, I think I got the wrong mic and amp... what should I try next?🤣
x1000
Actually I got condensers, neither a good dynamic (I got an Optimus!) nor a ribbon. Probably should do something about that.
Is Mike even active in his comment section?
What did 99% of guitar players neglect? To record? What do the 99.9% actually do? Or forget? I don't get it. What was the point of this?
As a guitarist, I chased great tone for years. Most of us do. But we don't think enough about (this is the part he's saying most of us miss) the link between the amazing sound coming out of our amps and getting that sound to record well. The choice of microphone is everything, and a good ribbon mic will "hear" the amp amazingly well. Other mics can sound good too, but if you want to capture THAT sound, the way you hear it at your amp, a ribbon mic does it best, by far. When I learned that in 1997 (from Dave Royer a year before we opened Royer Labs), I thought it was going to change every guitarist's life. -John Jennings
@@royerlabs Personally I've spent more money on microphones than guitars, and I own and love your R121. But the angle of the video was off. Not all guitarist are recording artist or need to be. And if they need to record, I think if 99.9% of guitarist will find a way to capture the tone that works for them, because they would also care about how they capture their tone... last week Mike raved about the ox and that its not even important to be mic'ing up any cabinets nowadays.. Sims and stuff is not for me, but there are many ways to Rome! To be frank, it feels a bit disingenuous to show off the OX as the new solution to everything one week, and then say that all guitarists are wrong for not using Royer mic's the next week. There is something off about that pitch, when it doesn't need to be. Royer mics are great in any case. It would look much better to focus on the actual qualities of the microphones, than to say guitarist dont care about their recorded tone for not using Royer. Mike is obviously talented. But for viewers, I think it's important that these recommendations feels genuine when you are receiving this high end gear to promote. It felt like a poor sales pitch. I'm sorry. Still watching
I thought it sounded great! Finish the track.
Teleprompter will fix it all bro
I hope you don't actually have a fantastic day... (jk)
You talk with your hands a lot