EXCELLENT video , after watching this video (early - Patreon) I seen 2 more examples of turns and it was like you said , wrong hand on top. Thanks for the awesome video and tips :)
Why am I thinking catching it with his right hand only would have been a way better decision? I understand the reason to be ambidextrous but for Fisher the right hand would have done the job.
Why not ditch the clap catch altogether? If it’s not in a central torso-area range, a clap catch is a lower percentage catching option. If it is in a range for clap catching, it’s better to catch in a manner that allows for an immediate throw (ie thumbs on top) is it not?
We're not fans of the thumbs-on-top catch because we believe it's a lower percentage catching option - more can go wrong and the margin for error is quite small. Transitioning from a clap catch to a throw can be done in 0.2 seconds, so we don't think increasing the risk of a drop in order to save 0.1 seconds is worth it.
I was with you until the last sentence. Clap catching away from your body is generally low percentage, but when catching on the rim you should fit your hand to the disc, which means thumbs down except on low grabs.
@@doktarr In general, yes. In this situation where the receiver is reaching back for the disc, thumb up gives several advantages. It allows greater range of motion backwards (try it!) which makes the catch motion more comfortable. It also allows the palm to face in the direction in which the receiver is moving instead of facing towards the approaching disc, so a bobble will be redirected in a direction where a catch might be possible.
While I agree that there is a lot of value to being an ambi-clap catcher, the situation you analyze is one in which the right hand on top clap catch is also bad. If you try reaching across and back with the right hand on top, you'll notice that the left arm elbow points straight down and the tricep is blocked by the torso early in the motion, preventing the left hand from moving as far behind the body. Reaching across and back with the left hand on top makes the elbow point forward, allowing the elbow bend to move the hand farther back. So right on top doesn't allow the disc to fit in the clap but gets the clap to the disc. Left on top doesn't allow the clap to move far enough back to get to the disc but does let the disc fit. Neither is good, so this should have been a one handed catch.
I’m just gonna catch it in my teeth next time
Imagine you drop a disc and someone analyzes it in a 3.5 minute TH-cam video... jk jk, I did enjoy this video
EXCELLENT video , after watching this video (early - Patreon) I seen 2 more examples of turns and it was like you said , wrong hand on top. Thanks for the awesome video and tips :)
One tip that I've received once is to stick the thumb from the bottom hand up so the disc will hit it rather than slip through your hands
I've noticed that I do this too! Is this considered good form?
Why am I thinking catching it with his right hand only would have been a way better decision? I understand the reason to be ambidextrous but for Fisher the right hand would have done the job.
Why not ditch the clap catch altogether? If it’s not in a central torso-area range, a clap catch is a lower percentage catching option. If it is in a range for clap catching, it’s better to catch in a manner that allows for an immediate throw (ie thumbs on top) is it not?
We're not fans of the thumbs-on-top catch because we believe it's a lower percentage catching option - more can go wrong and the margin for error is quite small. Transitioning from a clap catch to a throw can be done in 0.2 seconds, so we don't think increasing the risk of a drop in order to save 0.1 seconds is worth it.
I was with you until the last sentence. Clap catching away from your body is generally low percentage, but when catching on the rim you should fit your hand to the disc, which means thumbs down except on low grabs.
It's also harder to attack the disc with a clap catch outside of your body, making it easier for run through or layout D's
@@doktarr In general, yes. In this situation where the receiver is reaching back for the disc, thumb up gives several advantages. It allows greater range of motion backwards (try it!) which makes the catch motion more comfortable. It also allows the palm to face in the direction in which the receiver is moving instead of facing towards the approaching disc, so a bobble will be redirected in a direction where a catch might be possible.
nah, this makes too much sense to actually do.
While I agree that there is a lot of value to being an ambi-clap catcher, the situation you analyze is one in which the right hand on top clap catch is also bad. If you try reaching across and back with the right hand on top, you'll notice that the left arm elbow points straight down and the tricep is blocked by the torso early in the motion, preventing the left hand from moving as far behind the body. Reaching across and back with the left hand on top makes the elbow point forward, allowing the elbow bend to move the hand farther back.
So right on top doesn't allow the disc to fit in the clap but gets the clap to the disc. Left on top doesn't allow the clap to move far enough back to get to the disc but does let the disc fit. Neither is good, so this should have been a one handed catch.