I feel like it would make more sense for Aqua to care so much about Ai's death if he wasn't a reincarnation. If he's just a child who's only ever known this mom, then of course he might be deeply affected to the point of dedicating the rest of his life to revenge. But from the perspective of Gorou/Aqua, he's only lived with her for a very small fraction of his combined lives. He wouldn't really see her as his mom the way normal people see their parents, so the desire for revenge comes across as based more on his obsession as a fan rather than his love for her as her son.
Finally someone else who was icked out by the protagonist. It felt like I was going insane having heard so much praise of the series. I watched the first episode and also almost dropped it at 10 minutes but was hooked on the following mystery. I ended up deciding against watching episode 2 because I really didn't want to follow the pedophile protagonist (the sub had instead of called him a lolicon just called him a pedophile. And then the series did nothing but add fuel to that interpretation).
The manga is anything but a generic harem (it's literally neither one of those things), the dating show arc is just one small slice that was necessary to set up Akane as a character and her relationship with Aqua.
When it was good it was GOOD, but then there was the rest of it… It never occurred to me just how much of this show’s problems come from the reincarnation plot line, like you could so easily have him be just a slightly weird, hyper-intelligent child and his sister just be a momma’s girl who found a passion in becoming an idol because she looked up to her mother. Boom, no more weird horny shit with a 40 year old man in disguise! Oh, and get rid of the incest plot line, it’s so unneeded! I’d be fully okay to learn more about Ai through flashbacks and story details we get from the investigation of the thriller plot line, slowly piecing more and more throughout the season and perhaps getting some dramatic irony if we figure it out before Aqua that’d be cool! Instead he just admits to people that his ‘type’ was literally his mother, makes an uncomfortable breast milk joke and whittles her down to ‘cute idol’ 😭😭?? And give my man a better hair cut, the art is too pretty for bro to be walking around looking like that
i agree with absolutely everything you said here except on Aqua’s haircut, idc he ate that up (though it makes me sad when i remember that the pretty boy is acc a forty year old man in disguise, why can’t we just have nice things)
On the Anime Slushie podcast, they talked about this show and how using some problematic aspects of the idol industry for drama in a story is *very different* from actually providing meaningful critique/examination of the industry and its problems. I haven't sought out a ton of content about this show but that's the only other place besides here i've heard people criticize it. I think the online anime fandom can be a bit of an uncritical hivemind at times, especially when there's expensive animation to distract from the flaws in the story. This video was super great!
As a manga reader I'll just add that the idol stuff later starts explaining how we got to the point of Ai's murder. Does the story stumble a bit? Yeah. But is it enjoyable. Also yes. The anime was pretty normally paced. It didn't rush or drag out the story. If I recall correctly each episode was around 3 chapters. But that's why the first season doesn't cover much of the story. There are actually quite a few characters to juggle around. And not all of them get equal amounts of screen time. But the murder mystery and the paranormal aspect of it does come back later.
Manga reader here. I can tell you that it doesn't get any better. It's a show/manga that isn't really good at both showing the dark sides of the entertainment industry and being a murder mystery, because Aqua literally figured it out immediately who the killer is. (I could go way deeper why I think this, but I don't want to spoil you.) The pacing itself has also lots of issues(imo) because it feels like the manga doesn't really know what it wants to be. Arc 7 (around chapter 80) is literally called „main plot“. So it took Aka 80 chapters to introduce us to the plot. :) He also later goes on the full degen route, which was/ is very controversial, but this is also something anime watchers will only see in season 3 and 4 specifically. Overall the manga is overrated but it's also a dumpster fire that now, that I'm so deep in, I want to know how it ends. The most positive thing you can say about it is that it makes you feel some type of way.
thank you !! I only watched the first few episodes because I couldn’t get past the weird ass protag😭 thought I was going insane because no one else pointed it out. great video !
Him being a doctor in a previous life was wasted. Imagine if that plot point would have helped him save his mother somehow, At least him being a doctor would have paid off. Ai could have finally cracked after and rest of the season could have been about the real Ai. Tbh, she felt like the only "Real" character, complex, flawed, hidden, understandable. The rest of the cast feels very flat. And lets be real - this Aqua character is a stand in for the viewer. He has no goals of his own, no flaws, no real wishes - even when he loses his revenge drive, he does nothing until his revenge drive is reignited. Also why is no other consequence permanent? except Ai's death? If you read the manga, you know what Im talking about. IMO, this failed trying to show the "reality of the industry" . Sure its there, but not presented very well and more often than not Every issue is resolved in the next chapter. What they did, surely created a great hook. Would I have binged it and read the rest of the manga in one sitting if there was no murder mystery? Nope. The murder mystery is the only reason Im reading. I want to see that resolved. I dont care about anything else in the story. Halfway through Prologue got me thinking, oh some interesting characters, maybe this will be a good complex jab at the entertainment industry - okay. By the end I was thinking - so its a murder mystery? Watching her die was the worst but okay. But its all dropped from ep 2 onwards. As you said. Ep 1 and the rest feels very different types of stories. Also I regret watching it. Good Concept. Not so great execution. + I hate the story.
I’ve mentioned this on another video critiquing Oshi no Ko, but I think it also could’ve been interesting if the twins were, rather than reincarnated souls, children who shared a body with said “reincarnated” souls (essentially acting as guides for the twins). There is Aqua and there is Goro, there is Ruby and there is Sarina. This could not only keep the “reincarnation” type plot that exists to justify their (mostly Aqua’s) intelligence, but this set up could provide some very interesting drama when both soul’s motivations don’t line up. I have more thoughts on this story revision, but I want to keep this brief but I’m happy to explain more of my thoughts on it if anyone asks! Also nice video!
After having watched it myself, I think the entire point of the show _is_ that mismatch, the jarring incongruity between its two halves. There are a number of thematic parallels you can make about it, but I think the main selling point of the show is the juxtaposition of the joy of performance (Ruby) and the darkness behind it (Aqua); Ruby's overprevalence seems like an artifact of the slowgoing nature of Aqua's half of things, and if and when they make more episodes, I expect the show to rebalance more in the mystery thriller direction. Also creepy premise tho yeah 100% ew ew
Soo the manga readers often try to justify liking this series, but one of them slipped up and mentioned something gross as hell: It does eventually go for Aqua/Ruby.
I think the incest is there because Aqua and Ruby are based on Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, who were apparently married... and also siblings. Idk tho, haven't read the manga in a while.
@@littlecatface Gods are, in a few sort of important ways, NOT HUMANS. Not facing any consequences or ethical/power dynamic issues with that whole thing is a pretty big one of those differences lol.
Here are some things to clear out about the anime so far, due to the new manga chapters. For those wondering, no, Oshi no Ko does NOT go for incest. He doesn’t go for Akane either, he goes for Kana. And I just gotta make this clear, Goro and Aqua are TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE now. Goro, yes he is reincarnated as Aqua, but Aqua himself has his own personality, but is more shaped at first by Goro. But then, Goro’s own personality is starting to shift away from Aqua, and Aqua finally gets to live his own life. And I supposed for Ruby, she was 12 when she dies, so I suppose the immaturity and morals she has is realistic. Shes like…. teenage girls simping for older guys like Tom Holland or something. It doesn’t exactly excuse her for being ignorant, or starts getting interested in Aqua once she found out he was once Goro, but it still makes sense about how attached she is to him. The two were like best friends before she died, so it explains her lust. I can assure you though, after the “kiss” aqua only has a sister complex, he isn’t in love with her. Goro, when talking to the real Aqua, asks him if Kana is the one he really likes. And yeah, it is. As for talk about Akane, she actually really contributes, she learns more about Ai like how she did in the anime. Oh yeah back to Ruby, she’s not entirely useless. When she finds out about the doctor’s death and ai’s murderer, it actually clears out. I say memcho isn’t really all that helpful or important, she’s there for comic relief, but kana does help distribute crazy stuff that happens in media, and also her love does get some interest, I’d say in the upcoming season 2, but later on, it’s a little less. Really the whole thing is coming together, it just oshi no ko’s episodes aren’t putting enough together. I’m not sure what to say about Goro, he was more of a representation of creepy people such as the stalker, but Aqua, he isn’t. And he starts having more of a heart as well.
i am a huge fan of Oshi no Ko (love the anime and i've read the manga too up to Vol.11) but i totally understand your reasoning as to why you dislike it. as much as i love ONK, i too believe the first episode/volume does kinda betray what follows after, and sometimes the story does feel like an excuse for Akasaka to soapbox and vent for a bit about the entertainment industry. although, i disagree with your reading on Aqua. he is reincarnated, yes, but he is also his own person. i don't think adding up the doctor's and Aqua's ages and conflating the two together is a good read, especially since in Episode 8 Aqua himself admits he is slowly becoming his own person separate from the doctor. love hearing your opinions :)
You know, I always wondered why he cared more about getting revenge for AI when he himself was also murdered by the same guy but didn’t care about that so long as he was the child of his favorite actor. Shouldn’t he have some drive for himself in this?
Yeh it's a very oddball show with elements that I found unnecessary. Like... the first (movie like) episode is like... "Perfect Blue" crossed with "Boss Baby" ^^; which is.. a very odd mix. But I already saw that the following episodes can never match the 1st episode's ... writing, for whatever it was worth... The murder mystery just doesn't really interest me "10 years later".. Also weird, why does Ai have weird pointy alien stars in her eyes? I thought that's part of the plot somehow, but disappointingly, it just never was. So why the star eyes?
I saw the video in my feed and was like, who is this? :O I'm used to you doing animatics, it's cool to see you have other skills as well. :D I LIKE YOUR TWILIGHT SPARKLE HAIR also, that opening twist, wtf, holy hell, wtf? @_@ I want a shirt that just says Baking Soda.
Maybe you didnt like Kana but to me she was the most interesting charchter in the show starting out as a bratty child actor and meeting her post timeskip she has seemed to have learned her lesson and matured but in actual fact it was what she was forced to do to stay in anyway relevant after being casted to the side once she grew up and lost popularity only being used as a name to put on something instead of her acting talent Aswell being the first person aqua indirectly hurt being told that she was the one person aqua felt conferrable being honest around just to find out she was seemingly lied to a week later witch even without her crush on aqua her primary self worth issues come from only being seen as a convince and that no one even her own mother cares about her as a person witch sparks her self hate spiral witch wail defiantly assisted by aqua her success along with the rest of the group helping her find a new purpose.
@@lsnorlax9653 ruby said she’s in love with him- and smooched him 💀 By my standards that’s incest even if he didn’t reciprocate. I know it’s hard to tell through text but this comment isn’t meant in an aggressive way, so read it in a more “traumatized by Flowers in the Attic” way 😂 Obviously Oshi no Ko isn’t objectively bad, it’s just not my cup of age-gap incestuous-tea anymore ☕️
@@skookiecat_29 incest by definition is having intercourse while being related Plus Ruby saw Goro in Aqua, not Aqua himself. She’s mentally not an adult and is naive you see
@@skookiecat_29 lol my comment got deleted because I said the definition of incest There was that and the fact that Ruby saw Goro in Aqua, not him, so it’s not all that bad
@internetangelsakura okay? I’m not mad at the author (I LOVE AKA AKASAKA) I just- I can’t do it man- even if there’s no romantic relationship I just… **flowers in the attic flashbacks** But that’s just a me thing, Oshi no Ko is good, but I personally can’t go on after the smooch lol
The first ep was weird but honestly was the best episode throughout the entire show. I felt like afterwards it started to mainly focus on the red haired girl struggling with Aqua and her backstory, it got mad annoying 💀
It has its moments but the slice of life elements keep taking away from the supernatural murder mystery aspects. I always felt like they padded them on to drag out the manga. From the way u kept describing it, I was like u just want a perfect blue copy and then the end.
I'm gonna agree with almost everything, except the murder mystery being the more interesting one. For me, the murder mystery stuff always feels like it's interrupting the real story. Remove it from the show and even though I'd probably still hate Aqua a little bit, i could actually get invested in his journey through showbiz
The plot progress slow because the mentioned "father" is a big figure of entertainment, Aqua doesn't even know who is so what he do is manipulating others to have contacts to follow his revenge path, their past lives will become RELEVANT in the plot, also SPOILER Ruby will join him in future when she understands more what happened to Ai.
I really don’t think Goruo’s love for Ai was framed as sexual it was more paternal from my perspective. And I don’t think you would anyone would fantasize about being the child of someone they were romantically interested in. He doesn’t even make an attempt to pursue her romantically he sees her as his last connection to someone precious to him. Also it’s a common thing in Japan where people wish to be born as their favorite idols child.
i mean the nurse straight up asks Goro in episode one if he’d reject Ai if she asked to date him, and his response isn’t “no, she’s sixteen”, he just brushes it off. the narrative justification for him being a fan of Ai is that it helps him feel closer to Sarina after her death but that only makes it creepier imo because their whole relationship is really odd. He says it’s a “shame” he can’t marry her and tells her “he might reconsider it when she gets a little older”. yes you can argue that he’s just joking and it’s the latter one is intended to show the sadness of Sarina’s situation (she won’t get any older) but like even if he’s just joking around, those are not things to joke to your 12 year old patient. that’s just inappropriate and unprofessional. i don’t think it’s invalid to read Goro’s relationship with Ai as paternal, tbh I do think that’s what the author was trying to go for. but he also added so many unnecessary creepy undertones to their relationship that I can’t help but see it as weirdly sexual
@sully42O his conversation with the nurse was a one off gag not meant to be read into but silence doesn’t equal a yes. I think he was just giving Sarina something to look forward to and he didn’t want to crush the hopes and dreams of a child. Also it fits into the themes of lies being love.
What if I died and got reincarnated as my favorite celebrity’s kid is kinda a cultural joke in Japan. The manga over course of a few months would get you invested in the doctor with the basic twist idol has a kid then it does the oh you got reincarnated bit and then it’s like ha well if you were an idols kid your mom would die through the horrors of show business as you yourself are sucked into it in desperate revenge plot that may end up destroying you! Like wow okay buddy I guess. The 1st season does unfortunately ignore its seemingly main hook of the murder mystery but ultimately the shows about commenting on show buisness in as many aspects as possible. From idol groups, TH-cam, reality tv, anime live action adaptation, a .5 show. The show is mostly caught up trying to communicate all these things as your primary hook from then on cause it assumes your interested abd are shocked to learn about these thing then it can pick up the overarching murder plot later on. Yeah the whole 4pm year old in a young body makes everything very rough in the relationship department (dear god how did you maje incest and age gap paradoxes what’s happening) I never saw his ibsession with Ai as distractingly sexual but that’s a me thing depends on the tolerance. I think him and Ruby are good enough foils but yeah as now heavily under utilized and characterized
I was gonna be that one paragraph person but… I think it would be better if you watched season 2’s stage play arc once it comes out. It’ll answer a lot of plot points that you’ve brought up regarding Aqua. Aqua doesn’t really get much character development in this arc, but we get to understand more about what happens to specifically him after Ai’s death mentally. (Plus we find out he’s a major red flag, both Akane and Kana are colour blind af) Though I agree that the fact that the Ruby-Aqua and Ai’s relationship as a near-sasaeng level fan as your baby is gross. The most of the international oshi no ko fandom (excluding those few with… unique taste) has the same thoughts as you do.
Yeh it's a very oddball show with elements that I found unnecessary. Like... the first (movie like) episode is like... "Perfect Blue" crossed with "Boss Baby" ^^; which is.. a very odd mix. But I already saw that the following episodes can never match the 1st episode's ... writing, for whatever it was worth... The murder mystery just doesn't really interest me "10 years later".. Also weird, why does Ai have weird pointy alien stars in her eyes? I thought that's part of the plot somehow, but disappointingly, it just never was. Why the star eyes?
Re Zeros Main Character is a creepy character done right. I dont think Oshi no Ko has the same self awareness. But Re Zeros anime adaptation also has no self-awareness tho.
I feel like it would make more sense for Aqua to care so much about Ai's death if he wasn't a reincarnation. If he's just a child who's only ever known this mom, then of course he might be deeply affected to the point of dedicating the rest of his life to revenge. But from the perspective of Gorou/Aqua, he's only lived with her for a very small fraction of his combined lives. He wouldn't really see her as his mom the way normal people see their parents, so the desire for revenge comes across as based more on his obsession as a fan rather than his love for her as her son.
Finally someone else who was icked out by the protagonist. It felt like I was going insane having heard so much praise of the series. I watched the first episode and also almost dropped it at 10 minutes but was hooked on the following mystery. I ended up deciding against watching episode 2 because I really didn't want to follow the pedophile protagonist (the sub had instead of called him a lolicon just called him a pedophile. And then the series did nothing but add fuel to that interpretation).
I still think that Akasaka does all the shit around Aqua + Ruby just for shit and giggles, while developing Aqua's relationship with Kane.
Yeah I had a similar experience watching the show so I’m excited to watch this video
why would the author create a perfectly good creepy freak and waste him in a generic harem anime 😭
The manga is anything but a generic harem (it's literally neither one of those things), the dating show arc is just one small slice that was necessary to set up Akane as a character and her relationship with Aqua.
When it was good it was GOOD, but then there was the rest of it…
It never occurred to me just how much of this show’s problems come from the reincarnation plot line, like you could so easily have him be just a slightly weird, hyper-intelligent child and his sister just be a momma’s girl who found a passion in becoming an idol because she looked up to her mother. Boom, no more weird horny shit with a 40 year old man in disguise! Oh, and get rid of the incest plot line, it’s so unneeded!
I’d be fully okay to learn more about Ai through flashbacks and story details we get from the investigation of the thriller plot line, slowly piecing more and more throughout the season and perhaps getting some dramatic irony if we figure it out before Aqua that’d be cool! Instead he just admits to people that his ‘type’ was literally his mother, makes an uncomfortable breast milk joke and whittles her down to ‘cute idol’ 😭😭?? And give my man a better hair cut, the art is too pretty for bro to be walking around looking like that
i agree with absolutely everything you said here except on Aqua’s haircut, idc he ate that up (though it makes me sad when i remember that the pretty boy is acc a forty year old man in disguise, why can’t we just have nice things)
On the Anime Slushie podcast, they talked about this show and how using some problematic aspects of the idol industry for drama in a story is *very different* from actually providing meaningful critique/examination of the industry and its problems. I haven't sought out a ton of content about this show but that's the only other place besides here i've heard people criticize it.
I think the online anime fandom can be a bit of an uncritical hivemind at times, especially when there's expensive animation to distract from the flaws in the story. This video was super great!
Perfect blue did it far better already.
As a manga reader I'll just add that the idol stuff later starts explaining how we got to the point of Ai's murder. Does the story stumble a bit? Yeah. But is it enjoyable. Also yes. The anime was pretty normally paced. It didn't rush or drag out the story. If I recall correctly each episode was around 3 chapters. But that's why the first season doesn't cover much of the story. There are actually quite a few characters to juggle around. And not all of them get equal amounts of screen time. But the murder mystery and the paranormal aspect of it does come back later.
Manga reader here. I can tell you that it doesn't get any better. It's a show/manga that isn't really good at both showing the dark sides of the entertainment industry and being a murder mystery, because Aqua literally figured it out immediately who the killer is. (I could go way deeper why I think this, but I don't want to spoil you.)
The pacing itself has also lots of issues(imo) because it feels like the manga doesn't really know what it wants to be. Arc 7 (around chapter 80) is literally called „main plot“. So it took Aka 80 chapters to introduce us to the plot. :)
He also later goes on the full degen route, which was/ is very controversial, but this is also something anime watchers will only see in season 3 and 4 specifically.
Overall the manga is overrated but it's also a dumpster fire that now, that I'm so deep in, I want to know how it ends.
The most positive thing you can say about it is that it makes you feel some type of way.
thank you !! I only watched the first few episodes because I couldn’t get past the weird ass protag😭 thought I was going insane because no one else pointed it out. great video !
Him being a doctor in a previous life was wasted. Imagine if that plot point would have helped him save his mother somehow, At least him being a doctor would have paid off.
Ai could have finally cracked after and rest of the season could have been about the real Ai. Tbh, she felt like the only "Real" character, complex, flawed, hidden, understandable. The rest of the cast feels very flat.
And lets be real - this Aqua character is a stand in for the viewer. He has no goals of his own, no flaws, no real wishes - even when he loses his revenge drive, he does nothing until his revenge drive is reignited.
Also why is no other consequence permanent? except Ai's death? If you read the manga, you know what Im talking about. IMO, this failed trying to show the "reality of the industry" . Sure its there, but not presented very well and more often than not Every issue is resolved in the next chapter.
What they did, surely created a great hook. Would I have binged it and read the rest of the manga in one sitting if there was no murder mystery? Nope.
The murder mystery is the only reason Im reading. I want to see that resolved. I dont care about anything else in the story.
Halfway through Prologue got me thinking, oh some interesting characters, maybe this will be a good complex jab at the entertainment industry - okay. By the end I was thinking - so its a murder mystery? Watching her die was the worst but okay. But its all dropped from ep 2 onwards. As you said. Ep 1 and the rest feels very different types of stories.
Also I regret watching it. Good Concept. Not so great execution. + I hate the story.
I’ve mentioned this on another video critiquing Oshi no Ko, but I think it also could’ve been interesting if the twins were, rather than reincarnated souls, children who shared a body with said “reincarnated” souls (essentially acting as guides for the twins). There is Aqua and there is Goro, there is Ruby and there is Sarina. This could not only keep the “reincarnation” type plot that exists to justify their (mostly Aqua’s) intelligence, but this set up could provide some very interesting drama when both soul’s motivations don’t line up. I have more thoughts on this story revision, but I want to keep this brief but I’m happy to explain more of my thoughts on it if anyone asks! Also nice video!
Have you read the manga? Spoilers below
Recent 5 ish chapters covered exactly this
I thought I was a crazy person for my opinions on this show you completely echoed my same sentiments
After having watched it myself, I think the entire point of the show _is_ that mismatch, the jarring incongruity between its two halves. There are a number of thematic parallels you can make about it, but I think the main selling point of the show is the juxtaposition of the joy of performance (Ruby) and the darkness behind it (Aqua); Ruby's overprevalence seems like an artifact of the slowgoing nature of Aqua's half of things, and if and when they make more episodes, I expect the show to rebalance more in the mystery thriller direction.
Also creepy premise tho yeah 100% ew ew
Soo the manga readers often try to justify liking this series, but one of them slipped up and mentioned something gross as hell: It does eventually go for Aqua/Ruby.
I think the incest is there because Aqua and Ruby are based on Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, who were apparently married... and also siblings. Idk tho, haven't read the manga in a while.
@@littlecatface Gods are, in a few sort of important ways, NOT HUMANS. Not facing any consequences or ethical/power dynamic issues with that whole thing is a pretty big one of those differences lol.
I didn't even bother continuing after the first episode fast-forwarded to highschool. I feared it would become exactly as you described.
Here are some things to clear out about the anime so far, due to the new manga chapters. For those wondering, no, Oshi no Ko does NOT go for incest. He doesn’t go for Akane either, he goes for Kana. And I just gotta make this clear, Goro and Aqua are TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE now. Goro, yes he is reincarnated as Aqua, but Aqua himself has his own personality, but is more shaped at first by Goro. But then, Goro’s own personality is starting to shift away from Aqua, and Aqua finally gets to live his own life. And I supposed for Ruby, she was 12 when she dies, so I suppose the immaturity and morals she has is realistic. Shes like…. teenage girls simping for older guys like Tom Holland or something. It doesn’t exactly excuse her for being ignorant, or starts getting interested in Aqua once she found out he was once Goro, but it still makes sense about how attached she is to him. The two were like best friends before she died, so it explains her lust. I can assure you though, after the “kiss” aqua only has a sister complex, he isn’t in love with her. Goro, when talking to the real Aqua, asks him if Kana is the one he really likes. And yeah, it is. As for talk about Akane, she actually really contributes, she learns more about Ai like how she did in the anime. Oh yeah back to Ruby, she’s not entirely useless. When she finds out about the doctor’s death and ai’s murderer, it actually clears out. I say memcho isn’t really all that helpful or important, she’s there for comic relief, but kana does help distribute crazy stuff that happens in media, and also her love does get some interest, I’d say in the upcoming season 2, but later on, it’s a little less. Really the whole thing is coming together, it just oshi no ko’s episodes aren’t putting enough together. I’m not sure what to say about Goro, he was more of a representation of creepy people such as the stalker, but Aqua, he isn’t. And he starts having more of a heart as well.
i am a huge fan of Oshi no Ko (love the anime and i've read the manga too up to Vol.11) but i totally understand your reasoning as to why you dislike it. as much as i love ONK, i too believe the first episode/volume does kinda betray what follows after, and sometimes the story does feel like an excuse for Akasaka to soapbox and vent for a bit about the entertainment industry.
although, i disagree with your reading on Aqua. he is reincarnated, yes, but he is also his own person. i don't think adding up the doctor's and Aqua's ages and conflating the two together is a good read, especially since in Episode 8 Aqua himself admits he is slowly becoming his own person separate from the doctor.
love hearing your opinions :)
You know, I always wondered why he cared more about getting revenge for AI when he himself was also murdered by the same guy but didn’t care about that so long as he was the child of his favorite actor. Shouldn’t he have some drive for himself in this?
Yeh it's a very oddball show with elements that I found unnecessary.
Like... the first (movie like) episode is like... "Perfect Blue" crossed with "Boss Baby" ^^; which is.. a very odd mix.
But I already saw that the following episodes can never match the 1st episode's ... writing, for whatever it was worth...
The murder mystery just doesn't really interest me "10 years later"..
Also weird, why does Ai have weird pointy alien stars in her eyes? I thought that's part of the plot somehow, but disappointingly, it just never was.
So why the star eyes?
I saw the video in my feed and was like, who is this? :O I'm used to you doing animatics, it's cool to see you have other skills as well. :D I LIKE YOUR TWILIGHT SPARKLE HAIR
also, that opening twist, wtf, holy hell, wtf? @_@
I want a shirt that just says Baking Soda.
thank you!!! :D and absolutely me too re: the shirt
Does anyone else feels like Ai was forcefully pasted in this show?
Maybe you didnt like Kana but to me she was the most interesting charchter in the show starting out as a bratty child actor and meeting her post timeskip she has seemed to have learned her lesson and matured but in actual fact it was what she was forced to do to stay in anyway relevant after being casted to the side once she grew up and lost popularity only being used as a name to put on something instead of her acting talent Aswell being the first person aqua indirectly hurt being told that she was the one person aqua felt conferrable being honest around just to find out she was seemingly lied to a week later witch even without her crush on aqua her primary self worth issues come from only being seen as a convince and that no one even her own mother cares about her as a person witch sparks her self hate spiral witch wail defiantly assisted by aqua her success along with the rest of the group helping her find a new purpose.
Haven’t finished the video yet but I will say that I’m not sure I wanna continue Oshi no Ko cause…
Spoilers for the manga…
The incest is canon 😔
It's not
@@lsnorlax9653 ruby said she’s in love with him- and smooched him 💀
By my standards that’s incest even if he didn’t reciprocate. I know it’s hard to tell through text but this comment isn’t meant in an aggressive way, so read it in a more “traumatized by Flowers in the Attic” way 😂
Obviously Oshi no Ko isn’t objectively bad, it’s just not my cup of age-gap incestuous-tea anymore ☕️
@@skookiecat_29 incest by definition is having intercourse while being related
Plus Ruby saw Goro in Aqua, not Aqua himself. She’s mentally not an adult and is naive you see
@@skookiecat_29 lol my comment got deleted because I said the definition of incest
There was that and the fact that Ruby saw Goro in Aqua, not him, so it’s not all that bad
@internetangelsakura okay? I’m not mad at the author (I LOVE AKA AKASAKA) I just- I can’t do it man- even if there’s no romantic relationship I just… **flowers in the attic flashbacks**
But that’s just a me thing, Oshi no Ko is good, but I personally can’t go on after the smooch lol
The first ep was weird but honestly was the best episode throughout the entire show. I felt like afterwards it started to mainly focus on the red haired girl struggling with Aqua and her backstory, it got mad annoying 💀
Yeah, agree completely. Very well said and great video.
It has its moments but the slice of life elements keep taking away from the supernatural murder mystery aspects. I always felt like they padded them on to drag out the manga.
From the way u kept describing it, I was like u just want a perfect blue copy and then the end.
I'm gonna agree with almost everything, except the murder mystery being the more interesting one. For me, the murder mystery stuff always feels like it's interrupting the real story. Remove it from the show and even though I'd probably still hate Aqua a little bit, i could actually get invested in his journey through showbiz
The plot progress slow because the mentioned "father" is a big figure of entertainment, Aqua doesn't even know who is so what he do is manipulating others to have contacts to follow his revenge path, their past lives will become RELEVANT in the plot, also SPOILER
Ruby will join him in future when she understands more what happened to Ai.
The anime covered a very small slice of the story, the manga is a revenge plot over all.
I really don’t think Goruo’s love for Ai was framed as sexual it was more paternal from my perspective. And I don’t think you would anyone would fantasize about being the child of someone they were romantically interested in. He doesn’t even make an attempt to pursue her romantically he sees her as his last connection to someone precious to him. Also it’s a common thing in Japan where people wish to be born as their favorite idols child.
i mean the nurse straight up asks Goro in episode one if he’d reject Ai if she asked to date him, and his response isn’t “no, she’s sixteen”, he just brushes it off. the narrative justification for him being a fan of Ai is that it helps him feel closer to Sarina after her death but that only makes it creepier imo because their whole relationship is really odd. He says it’s a “shame” he can’t marry her and tells her “he might reconsider it when she gets a little older”. yes you can argue that he’s just joking and it’s the latter one is intended to show the sadness of Sarina’s situation (she won’t get any older) but like even if he’s just joking around, those are not things to joke to your 12 year old patient. that’s just inappropriate and unprofessional.
i don’t think it’s invalid to read Goro’s relationship with Ai as paternal, tbh I do think that’s what the author was trying to go for. but he also added so many unnecessary creepy undertones to their relationship that I can’t help but see it as weirdly sexual
@sully42O his conversation with the nurse was a one off gag not meant to be read into but silence doesn’t equal a yes. I think he was just giving Sarina something to look forward to and he didn’t want to crush the hopes and dreams of a child. Also it fits into the themes of lies being love.
the manga gets worse, its not worth it. got to a point I just get frustrated everytime I see content of this damn anime
What if I died and got reincarnated as my favorite celebrity’s kid is kinda a cultural joke in Japan. The manga over course of a few months would get you invested in the doctor with the basic twist idol has a kid then it does the oh you got reincarnated bit and then it’s like ha well if you were an idols kid your mom would die through the horrors of show business as you yourself are sucked into it in desperate revenge plot that may end up destroying you! Like wow okay buddy I guess. The 1st season does unfortunately ignore its seemingly main hook of the murder mystery but ultimately the shows about commenting on show buisness in as many aspects as possible. From idol groups, TH-cam, reality tv, anime live action adaptation, a .5 show. The show is mostly caught up trying to communicate all these things as your primary hook from then on cause it assumes your interested abd are shocked to learn about these thing then it can pick up the overarching murder plot later on. Yeah the whole 4pm year old in a young body makes everything very rough in the relationship department (dear god how did you maje incest and age gap paradoxes what’s happening) I never saw his ibsession with Ai as distractingly sexual but that’s a me thing depends on the tolerance. I think him and Ruby are good enough foils but yeah as now heavily under utilized and characterized
the manga doesn't help...if anything it gets worse even twitter was talking about THAT panel
Can we get a black butler video? Maybe even the remake?
Oshi no ko more like oshi no mo mid as hell 😒
I was gonna be that one paragraph person but… I think it would be better if you watched season 2’s stage play arc once it comes out. It’ll answer a lot of plot points that you’ve brought up regarding Aqua. Aqua doesn’t really get much character development in this arc, but we get to understand more about what happens to specifically him after Ai’s death mentally. (Plus we find out he’s a major red flag, both Akane and Kana are colour blind af)
Though I agree that the fact that the Ruby-Aqua and Ai’s relationship as a near-sasaeng level fan as your baby is gross. The most of the international oshi no ko fandom (excluding those few with… unique taste) has the same thoughts as you do.
i ahve a question if u didnt like oshi no ko whyd u buy ai's hair wig_
Yeh it's a very oddball show with elements that I found unnecessary.
Like... the first (movie like) episode is like... "Perfect Blue" crossed with "Boss Baby" ^^; which is.. a very odd mix.
But I already saw that the following episodes can never match the 1st episode's ... writing, for whatever it was worth...
The murder mystery just doesn't really interest me "10 years later"..
Also weird, why does Ai have weird pointy alien stars in her eyes? I thought that's part of the plot somehow, but disappointingly, it just never was.
Why the star eyes?
The star eyes are visual metaphors for being a good liar/ having star power and also represents the characters' emotions at times
Re Zeros Main Character is a creepy character done right. I dont think Oshi no Ko has the same self awareness. But Re Zeros anime adaptation also has no self-awareness tho.
Wrong. The writing of the anime is subtle, but you need to interpret tone and visuals.
@jackreacher7495 maybe, but it gives the wrong idea to most general viewers (i.e., being creepy will be rewarded in the long run)
@@RoanoraZoro123 You would have to be actively not thinking about what's happening to walk away with that conclusion.