Greeting cards on a floppy, a dead CP/M card, California Beachgirls, and some strange disks

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  • @RetroRecipes
    @RetroRecipes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the shout out Adrian! Great video, and the PCW is a great machine 👍🕹️

  • @talideon
    @talideon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Easy ways to tell Dutch from German: Dutch has 'ij', 'uw', 'oe', _lots_ of double vowels, the diminutive ending '-je' everywhere, and if you see something that looks like an umlaut, it's actually a _trema_ and indicates that the vowel it's on is meant to be pronounced separately from the preceding vowel (and there's always a preceding vowel).

    • @goeland4585
      @goeland4585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not an "easy way". Easier to spot is that German has all nouns uppercase.

    • @chiefdetektor
      @chiefdetektor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jepp. I wanted to point that out as well.
      Glad you did already. Great job!

  • @nullplan01
    @nullplan01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    31:52 The interrupt stack thing: That was a problem in the earliest 8086 processors (I would have to look up the history of that to be exact). In x86 real mode, the stack is located with two registers, SS and SP (actually that is still true in protected and long modes, but the meaning of SS has become progressively vestigial as time went on). So that means, when you need to load a new stack, you need to load something into both of these register.
    In more recent models (and to this day), when a new value is loaded into the SS register, the recognition of interrupts is disabled for one instruction. This allows you to load a new stack by first loading something into SS and then something into SP. In fact, in those processors, there was not really a way to load both SS and SP in a single instruction. LSS was added later (which does allow you to do that, but in a cumbersome way, and any processor that support LSS also supports interrupt suppression). But the early 8086 did not do that. So it is indeed possible to get an interrupt between loading SS and SP, causing garbage to be written to an arbitrary location in memory. Obviously that can cause problems. Even if the temporary SS:SP in the middle there points to RAM, it could wind up overwriting important stuff. And if it doesn't point to RAM, interesting things can happen with the hardware. Since the time window is so small, even with a stable setup you would have a hard time getting the interrupt to fire at the exact right time for the bug to happen. Now, interrupts can be disabled, and some software was written to disable interrupts during a stack switch. But not all software did that, some software assumed a later 8086 or 186 or 286, and in any case, none of those can do anything about NMIs.

  • @johanverrept3482
    @johanverrept3482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The text is dutch, not german and it says:
    These profile options are loaded by the emulator when started. There are two separate programs that can be started to establish 5250 emulation. Each program provides a different collection of functions. Below are their names and their functions.
    DE5250.COM -> single or double image station session
    DP5250.COM -> double session-emulation
    Type the next to start emulation with profile options for 2 imagestation sessions without printer session:
    DE5250 i=your profile file specification
    If you do not provide anything at the parameter i=, the program DE5250.COM will search a file called DE5250.DAT

    • @kriscoryn5202
      @kriscoryn5202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      approved by kris form belgium (dutch speaking also)

    • @r00key
      @r00key ปีที่แล้ว

      I died a little inside when he said it was German. Haha 😂

  • @delmonti
    @delmonti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ..thankyou for taking the time & effort to produce this type of content, I absolutely love watching you fix up & show each of the mailbag submissions. Just wonderful..... and I had no idea Canadians pronounce "Zed' the correct way ;-) what a marvelous country!

  • @raelik777
    @raelik777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Oh! Those keyboard stickers, that isn't Greek (I mean, there ARE Greek letters in there, but not for actually writing in Greek), those are symbols for the APL programming language! Whoever had that was an APL programmer!

    • @MrStevetmq
      @MrStevetmq ปีที่แล้ว

      In others videos Adrian has called other letters "Greek" it appears that if he does not recognise something he calls it Greek.

  • @fragglet
    @fragglet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    19:40 - the greek symbols aren't for writing scientific papers, that's an APL keyboard! The APL programming language uses those symbols as its syntax, and IBM used to be one of the biggest proponents of APL!

    • @MendicantMonkey
      @MendicantMonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Symbolics LISP machine Space Cadet terminal keyboards were similar. The abundance of meta keys influenced the development of Emacs, in the same way that the position of the Escape key on ADM-3A terminals influenced the development of vi. (Restating factoids from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard )

  • @hernancoronel
    @hernancoronel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PC Tools was very very popular here in Argentina! You basically had the PC Tools team vs. the Norton Commander/Norton Utilities team. I was on the NC/NU team. Thank you for your great content Adrian!

  • @ObiWanBillKenobi
    @ObiWanBillKenobi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    29:48 I grew up using PC Shell 5.5 as our family's file manager program. Amazing that I now get to see the building where it was made!

  • @cybercat1531
    @cybercat1531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll never get tired of that charming intro and tune.

  • @jefflavenz7285
    @jefflavenz7285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    10:59 That is an Atari ST mouse. I think you might need to look inside to see if the potentiometers are calibrated right or if they're gunked up.

    • @LeftoverBeefcake
      @LeftoverBeefcake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's also a laser upgrade kit available, if the innards are totally shot.

    • @TzOk
      @TzOk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are no potentiometers, but the opto-encoders, like in most ball-mice... it is either dirty, or has a broken cable.

    • @CandyGramForMongo_
      @CandyGramForMongo_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have to clean them with alcohol. They then need cleaning more and more often. Mice that needed constant cleaning were called alcoholics.

    • @brianv2871
      @brianv2871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, this is typical of ST mice... need lots of cleaning :)

    • @Bob3519
      @Bob3519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I worked for Toshiba on the mid 90's and walked hundreds of customers through cleaning the mouse. 😁

  • @ultrametric9317
    @ultrametric9317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very rare keyboard - those are APL stickers. I remember APL for MS-DOS - my favorite computer language ever. One of the rare programs that required a math coprocessor. APL is the creation of one man, Ken Iverson, and started life as a way to express algorithms. From the 1960s. My first ever experience interacting with a computer was an APL system with an IBM Selectric terminal and APL typing ball.

  • @gorber81
    @gorber81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    oh man.... Dune 2, the mother of all RTS

  • @wojiaobill
    @wojiaobill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    "it looks like it's in German"
    You've heard of Das Boot ,
    now for... DOS boot

    • @TooLazyToFail
      @TooLazyToFail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Take your Like and get out.

  • @AirknightTails
    @AirknightTails 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I saw that you used PC Tools. It made me happy as I have a Boxed copy of PC Tools Pro 9 that I found at a Thrift Store for around $5. Thanks for this and Have a Nice Day!

  • @marcelhh2101
    @marcelhh2101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Adrian, the disk is Dutch language.

    • @pipschannel1222
      @pipschannel1222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You beat me to it ;-)
      It reads 'Extended 5250 Emulation Program'

    • @starsundsternchen802
      @starsundsternchen802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dutch and German are pretty close languages. At least for an English speaking person.

    • @pipschannel1222
      @pipschannel1222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@starsundsternchen802 Even though Dutch people might not like to admit it, the two languages are very closely related indeed :-)

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't speak Dutch, but I can certainly recognize it. The fact I learnt some German years ago also helps, I guess.

    • @thomasfuchs78
      @thomasfuchs78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's easy to tell if it's Dutch, it sounds like English spoken backwards.

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved the positioning of the ST ports, they were very neat. And you never really changed them once installed. Most games used a joystick on the other port so you never needed to change them over often.

    • @MrDAndersson
      @MrDAndersson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem was if you had friends and used dual joysticks and then needed to switch back to mouse..

  • @ste76539
    @ste76539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember using those disks in an Amstrad PCW at work when I was 17/18 (so about a million years ago).

    • @i_am_not_a_pro_but_lets_try
      @i_am_not_a_pro_but_lets_try 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      when I was about 18 - I was on a job training scheme (YTS in the UK) and was once asked to show some paying customers how to use the Amstrad PCW 8512 for word processing. lovely green screen.

  • @kevinclarkson5565
    @kevinclarkson5565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 3in CF2 disks were brilliant. They were used on the Amstrad (Schneider branded in Germany) CPC & PCW machines & Sinclair ZX Spectrum +3.
    If you look on the side, there is a white slider, that operates the disk cover. Also, I may be biased but the CPC was the best home for the Zilog Z80... Great video again Adrian :)

  • @gordonmacqueen8694
    @gordonmacqueen8694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TheDraw!!! I haven't thought of that since the late 90s and the days of BBSes. Wow.

  • @squirlmy
    @squirlmy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Emulation Station" was often used to simulate terminals on mainframes like the 360 series. Banks and financial often did this rather than rewrite already secure banking applications, as it provided an another layer of security as a bonus to not having to replace hardware. The entire mainframe would be emulated in PCs servers eventually. You may be able to hack a Dutch bank with that Adrian!

  • @terosaarela4555
    @terosaarela4555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video! You can use those 3” floppies also in the Spectrum +3.

    • @galier2
      @galier2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oric also used them at some point.

  • @GORF_EMPIRE
    @GORF_EMPIRE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That glass of drink was making me nervous. xD

  • @william2william
    @william2william 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The music at 38:15 is "Daisy Bell" the first song/music to be played on a computer (IBM 704) in 1961.

    • @shinyplaid
      @shinyplaid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't know that about Daisy Bell and the IBM. I knew that's what HAL 9000 sings in 2001: A Space Odyssey as it's powering down, but now I know why they probably picked that particular song.

    • @william2william
      @william2william 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shinyplaid Yeah IBM showed Arthur C. Clark the IBM 704 playing Daisy Bell in 1962 and that's why he had a computer made by IBM playing Daisy Bell in 2001 Space Odyssey.

  • @locnar1701
    @locnar1701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dune II is an amazing game. Some would say that there would be no Warcraft or Starcraft without the utterly stellar Westwood Studios Dune II I played the DOS version on all three campaigns at least three times.

    • @iroll
      @iroll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This. Even with its issues, like the comically bad AI, I played this game for so, so, so long. The most frustrating thing was accidentally running out of spice on the map, because you spent too much time on the level (maybe got unlucky with the enemy, especially when the Harkonnen are lobbing missiles at you). I remember spending FOREVER shooting my own harvesters so that the home office would send me another one. A brand new harvester came with 7 units of spice in it..... Also - Ordos = best house. I can still remember all the units in the game. Raider Trikes were so weak and stupid but so fun (racing through the enemy base dodging every bullet), and the mind control was also a constant source of comedy (sending the big harkonnen tanks back into their base to self destruct).

  • @stefanocrespi5424
    @stefanocrespi5424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "That was quite HENTAI-climactic." Well played mr. Adrian.

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's... not what he said. He literally just said "anticlimactic".

  • @cbmsysmobile
    @cbmsysmobile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember fitting a memory upgrade to a mate's Atari ST back in the 90's. It involved soldering a daughterboard onto the motherboard to double the ram.

  • @ncot_tech
    @ncot_tech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That is an ST mouse, they're just awful. We quickly gave up with them and bought replacements.

  • @hernancoronel
    @hernancoronel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I got my brand new C128 I remember the diskettes had the seal “Read the user’s license before breaking the seal” or something similar and I recall myself reading all the legalese for a few hours! Nothing was more boring than that! EVER! LOL!

  • @ChrisDreher
    @ChrisDreher 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember the CardWare software for the Apple II! I had forgotten all about it until your video showed the baker with the cake.

  • @HelloSwiftful
    @HelloSwiftful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It warms my heart when I see a little MSX cassette from Nederland :)

  • @Flamelily-IT
    @Flamelily-IT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To open the metal window on those Amstrad disks you slide the metal spring on the side/edge down. Great video 👍

  • @Stjaernljus
    @Stjaernljus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Those are amstrad/hitachi 3" disks, the famicom disk system is a varation of quickdisk.

  • @docpaul
    @docpaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an Atari 1040ST and upgraded it to 4MB by piggy-backing the RAM whilst in school - fond memories!

  • @dave7244
    @dave7244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tatung Einstein used those compact diskettes as well. They were pretty decent if I remember correctly.

  • @gromph42
    @gromph42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dune 2 was Awesome! Played lots on my 386dx33 back in the day. Kinda like C&C, fantastic back in 94.

  • @lindoran
    @lindoran 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work in telecom adrian when you said That's PCI compliant I chuckled a bit just awesomeness.... Laughed way to hard at that!

  • @RobertBaruch
    @RobertBaruch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "And then all that's left is Ripley, she has to go down to a planet, there's a... it's... ah, the whole movie is just dumb." -- Adrian's Movie Reviews 2021

  • @encorespod2135
    @encorespod2135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could always plug in an external drive and fit the old drive-flip-switch mod to that ST. Oh and, you can set the ST to the high res mode if you just pin the monitor port out to a VGA monitor.

  • @leadedsolder
    @leadedsolder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had bad (cracked) solder joints on the port that kept my 1040STF mouse from working. As you can imagine, from the weird placement it puts a lot of strain on the port. After reflowing them, the mouse started working again. There is mouse-key support, as well, using the numpad and I think one of the accelerator keys together.

  • @ConnerBurns
    @ConnerBurns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha! I used to live just around the corner from that building on Capitol hwy. Great MMMC Adrian!

  • @hpalvz
    @hpalvz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:02 looks like 3" disks for an Amstrad CPC 6128 or a ZX Spectrum +3!

    • @alexandretoto2109
      @alexandretoto2109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      . Most likely for a CPC

    • @Zeem4
      @Zeem4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexandretoto2109 Probably the PCW - Locoscript is the PCW's bundled word processor.

    • @wicksta
      @wicksta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zeem4 Yes that's definitely correct, I used Locoscript in some text processing course on the PCW 8256s at college, it's not available on the CPC range. So definitely PCW disks.

    • @Zeem4
      @Zeem4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wicksta Thanks for the info! I'm very familiar with the PCW (I own about 20 of them, all models), but I wasn't 100% sure if Locoscript was ever available on the CPC. I seem to remember Arnor Protext being the 'de facto' word processor on the CPC.

  • @markfernandes5674
    @markfernandes5674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    used pc-tools a lot back in the day - useful for attribute setting and the like. was part of my toolkit but as you say it was superseded by other programs...

  • @iXien
    @iXien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's marvelous how you manipulate the Amstrad CPC discs as if it were relics from ancient Egypt. I'm French and here in France, Amstrad sold even more CPC computers than in England (thanks to the very good work of Amstrad France). Nowadays, we suppose that Amstrad sold near to 2 millions CPC. So these floppy disks are well known to a whole generation of European users of the 80s, particularly in England, Belgium, France, Spain and Germany.
    What you have in your hands are 3 inches floppy discs format created in Japan and also use by Nintendo for it's Famicom Disc System (with minor modificatyions of the case to be sure that only the Nintendo disc can be used in the FDS). This format was chosen by Amstrad because it was less expensive than Sony's (no royalties to pay). The surprise for the end user was to have to put their hand in their pocket to acquire expensive floppy disks much less popular than the 3'1 / 2.
    But the disadvantages ended there because on the other hand, they were particularly reliable, much better designed than those of the standard of SONY with a mechanism which kept the magnetic disk well safe until the floppy disk was inserted in a drive.
    One day I forgotten a 3 inches floppy disk in a pocket of a jeans and put it all in the washing machine. The floppy disk came out in perfect working order after drying! Indestructible !!!
    As the format was not standardized, Alan Mickael Sugar had the good idea to take care of the distribution of the floppy disks in order to ensure that no shortage comes to tarnish the image of his machines (with more or less success). Other companies then imported their own floppy disks, but Amsoft (the publishing company created by Sugar to distribute floppy disks, official cassettes and games at the launch of its machines) will still remain the largest supplier. To justify a little the high selling price of floppy disks, they have long been distributed in rather classy individual plastic cases, which made it possible to neatly store floppy disks which users held dear as the apple of their eye. For the last few years, they've been slipped into more inexpensive flexible plastic cases, but they still look better than 3'1/2 floppy disks bought in bulk.
    On CPC their capacity was 178kb per side but this constraint was linked to the CPC which could only read single density floppy disks (red label like the one you have in hand). The PCW could read double density floppy disks (blue Amsoft label) and there were even double-sided drives allowing to benefit from 712Kb per floppy continuously, which was the same as a 3'1/2 floppy disk formatted under MS-DOS. By using more exotic formats, some CPC game developers have managed to squeeze much more than the original 178Kb limit.
    These 3 inches floppy disks are all my childhood with my beloved CPC 6128. Nowadays I got lot of them in my personal stock and I sometimes play games from the copy I made 35 years ago when I was a child. Incredible, I tell you!

  • @cjripka6752
    @cjripka6752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 5250 terminal emulation was used with a Twinax cable to allow the PC to connect to an IBM Mini such as the AS/400. The cable was/is a coaxial type of cable. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5250.

    • @gschizas
      @gschizas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IBM mainframes as well (like 360/MVS etc)

  • @FarrellMcGovern
    @FarrellMcGovern 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    PC Tools was a wonderful set of tools, not just their file manager! I was practically worshiped in many places I did on-site support, since I would use PC Tools on IBM & compatibles, and would do wondrous things to recover deleted files, accidentally formatted hard drives, and restore Master Boot Records and partition tables. About the only thing I couldn't recover was from a low-level format...

  • @marty9248
    @marty9248 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, you can use Xcopy (nibble copy) on an amiga with a gotek to create an image of your ST-disk. Then you can use that image with the gotek in your ST. Also works for MSX floppies. Xcopy on the amiga wasn't used for the amiga platform only ;)

  • @ArjanvanVught
    @ArjanvanVught 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    27:11 It's for sure not German. It's Dutch. :-)

    • @proxy1035
      @proxy1035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a German i felt insulted... /s

    • @kriscoryn5202
      @kriscoryn5202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@proxy1035 some English speaking people don't understand the difference
      English words translate to dutch
      German : Duits
      Dutch : Nederlands
      so you see the similar words other language
      Dutch and Duits
      and they think if they see the word Dutch it is Duits (: German) but no it is writing in Nederlands
      I'm living in Belgium so we are neighbors also from the Netherlands
      in Belgium we speak Dutch, French and yes a little group of people 0.7 % are speaking German
      Dutch and German have some similar words also
      sometime they say you have need of a hot potato to speak better German vowels
      so be not insulted please they don't understand the difference very good

    • @Colaholiker
      @Colaholiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@proxy1035 As another German, I don't. Not if someone like Adrian, who likely neither speaks Dutch nor German can't tell the difference. To someone not familiar with either of the two they can look pretty similar. ;-)

    • @proxy1035
      @proxy1035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Colaholiker ​ @Kris Coryn the "/s" at the end of the comment is a somewhat common way to label something as sarcasm... maybe you just didn't know that.
      overall yes obviously i know he's not native to either language so it's logical he couldn't tell the difference.
      but to be honest the joke of the comment was supposed to be: "calling dutch german is an insult to the german language". but it didn't came across well.
      sorry for the confusion caused.

    • @Colaholiker
      @Colaholiker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@proxy1035 Honestly, even though I have been around the web since the late 90s, including countless hours on IRC back in the day, I have never really come across that /s before. Maybe it is something that is just used in some communities? I'm just more used to character smileys like ;-) or ^^ or nowadays the graphical emojis where available.
      Anyhow, getting sarcasm across is always tricky in a text based environment, especially if you are communicating with strangers, and so I didn't realize it. Sorry about that.
      However, I think more Dutch people would see it as an offense if someone called their language German, or, even worse, a German dialect. Which of course it isn't. It is just a very close (I'm not a linguist, but I'd say the closest) relative.
      Back to the video, it's fascinating to me how Adrian always tries to pronounce the names of people who have sent stuff in, regardless of whether he knows the proper way of pronouncing it or not - while being aware that he may be totally off. As a German who has spent quite some time in the United States (well, before 2020 that is), who has a name that doesn't have an English equivalent, I can see how some people struggle. That's why when I get asked for my name in places like Starbucks, my name automatically changes to Paul. :o)

  • @HuntersMoon78
    @HuntersMoon78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the Atari ST. I did find an Atari STe in a charity shop (thrift shop) for £3, it came with a mouse, manual, power cable and 2 games. fully working too

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For 3 quid? An excellent find! 8) I miss the days of charity shops having that sort of thing, but very few carry any electricals now because they don't want to bother with (or the expense of) the PAT testing. 2nd hand shops in the early 90s were a lot more interesting, more like what LGR shows in his thrifting vids.

  • @aaroncheah2088
    @aaroncheah2088 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atari ST owner here. Yup, that's an original ST mouse. Check the side rollers after taking mouse the rubberised steel ball. Usually full of crud and rust.

  • @chrisdaws5382
    @chrisdaws5382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Amstrad disks contain Loco script files. A word processor from Locomotive software.

  • @ducky-1944
    @ducky-1944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LocoScript, not Logoscript is word processing software from Locomotive Software, I used it on the Amstrad PCW 8512...

  • @laxr5rs
    @laxr5rs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a good one (as they all are), Adrian. The Aliens game looked great.

  • @Lenmaer
    @Lenmaer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The 3" floppy disks are CPC 664/6128 disks.

    • @marksterling8286
      @marksterling8286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And pcw 8256/8512 & 9512 I think, Alan Sugar must have got them at a great price

    • @Lenmaer
      @Lenmaer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@marksterling8286 Oh those weren't cheap. One floppy cost 6 euros back then. There even was a shortage for one year and their price went all up to 10 euros.
      No idea how much that would be nowadays with the inflation, etc.

    • @diegocipriani
      @diegocipriani 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marksterling8286 yeah I don't remember precisely which company made them, but Alan sugar made a contract with the manufacturing company that was so iron clad that even when they were manufacturing the disks at loss it was more convenient than breaking the contract with Amstrad

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@diegocipriani Must have been Mitsumi, they made similar ones for other platforms like the Famicom and the QuickDisk. I'm pretty sure Amstrad were the only ones buying towards the end, the fact that Mitsumi were the only manufacturers made it risky for either if one went under.

    • @0toleranz
      @0toleranz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea the CP/M system disk there was the tell tail sign. The spectrum 128-3A used them too and there were also 3rd party drives for the speccy. These are CPC disks - I‘m pretty sure.

  • @theowinters6314
    @theowinters6314 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I remember right, the x86 is suppose to inhibit interrupts for the next opcode after you set the stack segment, allowing you to set the stack pointer without having to manually disable interrupts. If this isn't working, it's possible for an interpret to happen between setting the stack segment and the stack pointer, resulting in the interrupt information overwriting random parts of memory.

  • @francoisrevol7926
    @francoisrevol7926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nooooo, just when I thought I wasn't behind anymore on watching these! :D

  • @JohnD666
    @JohnD666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never used PCTOOLS ? Come on Adrian. Awesomest tool ever ;-)

  • @nebular-nerd
    @nebular-nerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 3" inch floppies were used by the Amstrads and the Spectrum +3's, the little white slider on the side of the disk pulls the shutter open when inserted in the drive.

  • @stuartkenny
    @stuartkenny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember the frustration of realising all you could use on the Amstrad 6128+ was those 3" disks, with no way to connect a tape drive. Also the fun feature of the disk being corrupted if you forgot to take it out of the drive when power cycling the machine.

  • @christopherbaar4498
    @christopherbaar4498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dune II: Battle for Arrakis, also known as Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty also came out for PC and Genesis, and was a precursor to Command and Conquer from Westwood Studios. It might have been the first Real-Time Strategy game, but I'm not certain of that. It spawned 2 sequels (Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune) and still has a following to this day. If you get the game, you can use the data files with source ports for modern Windows systems as well, which add some useful features that didn't exist in the early RTS games (drag select and assigning numbers to groups).

  • @mercuryvapoury
    @mercuryvapoury 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A brief flash of "Jimmy White's Whirlwind Snooker". I loved playing it on my mate's A600. I "somehow ended up with a copy" of the game, but unfortunately it wasn't supported on my A1200, and would crash at the slightest hint of a 3D graphic calculation. It did get re-released, however, and I bought a proper copy. Definitely one of my favourite Amiga games.

  • @roasthunter
    @roasthunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Maxell CF2 disk has Locoscript written on it, that is Amstrad PCW 8256/8512 word processor software written by Locosoft; it shipped as default with the PCW. The disks were also used on the Amstrad CPC range of 8 bit range of computers. To open the metal disk cover, you slide the white tab down on the side of the disk. The drives are actually pretty reliable but they are belt driven and the belts turn to goo. Any original belt needs replacing now.

  • @soverysleepy
    @soverysleepy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    early 8088 and 8086 chips had a bug involving the stack if i remember correctly
    get one that has a later serial
    check online for ranges of s/n with and without bug
    i wonder if turbo cad installer integer error is related to the early cpu

    • @absurdengineering
      @absurdengineering 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder what would Intel say if he sent it in for a replacement :)

  • @fnjesusfreak
    @fnjesusfreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MUSICA is for the PCjr. With some tweaking it could be coaxed into working with an EGA and BASIC 3.2.

  • @Vanders456
    @Vanders456 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 3" disc was also used on the Spectrum +3, although admitedly this was *after* Amstrad bought Sinclair so I guess it's still accurate to say it's an Amstrad disc. I don't remember if the format is the same between Amstrad CPC, Amstrad PCW & Spectrum.

  • @kronos2611
    @kronos2611 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Amstrad PCW was quite popular in the UK, I remember using them in school especially the ones with ball printers (that's not the right name I suspect but it's what's coming to mind :) ) which were insanely loud. In a classroom with 30 people printing at the end of the day the noise was extreme to say the least. I can still hear it now - whir, thump thump whir thump

  • @stevehawkins4422
    @stevehawkins4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Adrian you been in the Narnia wardrobe again. I told you it's Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A. You keep pressing the wrong buttons and taking my T-shirts 🤣🤣

  • @kd5byb
    @kd5byb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember the mouse driving the train! They may have re-used the mouse driving the train in a Merry Christmas greeting card? I seem to recall the mouse in Christmas context versus birthday context. Hi Rami! Baaaah!!!! :)

  • @akaJughead
    @akaJughead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If us Yanks have to say Zed when referring to the ZX Spectrum, then Brits and Canucks can say Zee when referring to the z80. It only seems fair.

    • @cbmsysmobile
      @cbmsysmobile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Z80 processor was designed by Frederico Faggin, who was born and studied in Italy. Therefore it is Zed80 :p

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cbmsysmobile Ha ha, nice.

    • @tankgrrl
      @tankgrrl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cbmsysmobile Nice try. ;) But "zee-eighty" straight from the man's mouth to your ears: th-cam.com/video/1Ik9_ORz3qQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @larrywilliams8010
    @larrywilliams8010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Central Point Software started out in Central Point, Oregon. I had a friend who worked there, and when the company would throw out disks he would send them to me.

  • @BottIsNotABot
    @BottIsNotABot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adrian you need to get your hands on an Amstrad PCW 9512, then you can explore the joys of LocoScript! I remember being so disappointed when my step-father came home with a PCW 9512 and not an IBM Clone ,but soon got stuck into learning CP/M and messing with Amstrad Basic and LocoScript.

  • @kylewormsbacher254
    @kylewormsbacher254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That doll in the greeting card app on the apple 2 is the thing of nightmares...

  • @stewg9376
    @stewg9376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 3” amstrad disk were also used in the ZX Spectrum +3. The white thing on the side would move the cover when you placed the disc in the drive. The red tabs at the top where the write protect.

  • @jonathancombe9991
    @jonathancombe9991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you are right about the disks, that format was from old Amstrad PCW and CPC machines. It was also used in the Spectrum +3 as this was an Amstrad model.

  • @JARVIS1187
    @JARVIS1187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The text at ± 27:10 was not german (I know for sure :D ). looked like dutch to me. :)

  • @TheJeremyHolloway
    @TheJeremyHolloway 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adrian, that is definitely an Atari ST Mouse. The only other non-ST/STe/Mega/TT/Falcon030 computer they bundled it with was with some of the Atari PCs [PC Compatibles]. It was never sold for the Atari 8-bit line but that didn't stop some 8-bit owners using them with software like the "Diamond" GUI software [it was named "Diamond" as an in-joke since the Atari ST used the GEM GUI]. At one point, Atari Corp did entertain the notion of bundling the 65XE and 130XE with Diamond - like Commodore did for the C64c with GEOS - but it never came to market. And since then, there's even pro homebrew software and mods to existing titles for using the Atari ST Mouse with the 2600. AtariAge's "Missile Command-TB" - which added native Trak-Ball support to it - also provided support on some versions for using an Atari ST - or Amiga - Mouse instead of a Trak-Ball or a joystick. Atari Corp stuck the Mouse/Joystick ports in that cubby so the ST would look slightly more "professional" with better cable management but instead, it infuriated us users. Practical Solutions sold a lot of "Mouse Master" adapters that plugged into both of those ports and provided a switch so you could plug in the ST Mouse and 2 joysticks at the same time and then used provided velcro to mount the adapter usually under your computer table. Practical Peripherals also sold an adapter called the "Monitor Master" that allowed you to plug in the Atari SC1224 Color Monitor and the Atari SM124 Monochrome Monitor into the single monitor port and then toggled them with the adapter switch. Of course, as you pointed out, Atari Corp could've moved those ports to the right side of the case. After all, your ST is an STe and it has the 2 Enhanced Joystick Ports mounted to the left side of the case. Those ports were later re-used by the Atari Falcon030 and the Jaguar so ST Power Pad/JagPad controllers can be plugged into them. The problem with your ST Mouse is most likely the ball being dirty or actually requiring replacement. I'm sure Best Electronics or MyAtari on eBay have NOS replacement balls. Or like with the Amiga Mouse, there are modern board replacement solutions that use lasers that you can retrofit into that ST Mouse case. Third party mice were popular back in the day like with that "Beetle" mouse in multiple colors. If I recall, there were some drivers available to use serial mice too so long as you didn't need your RS232 Serial Port for a Modem or Null Modem Cable Connection [for gaming mainly]. That software you had was probably public domain/freeware/shareware. As you mentioned, it was rather odd it was monochrome. I was actually surprised it actually worked on an STe. So many games wouldn't run on those computers since the software publishers didn't patch pre-existing titles that often although modern enthusiasts certainly have done so for a lot of the commercial software. There are also several different modern monitor adapters to connect that ST up to a VGA monitor. Of course, you'll need to pick a VGA monitor that can sync the 15KHz RGB/Monochrome signal. Nice Gotek. Although for future use when receiving discs, perhaps you should pick up an external working Atari SF314 external double-sided disc drive...

  • @Meebzorp5200
    @Meebzorp5200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 520ST had 2 megs added by a friend who soldered a ram sandwich board into the main board in the late 80s. You couldn't close the case with screws because the ram took up space but the top case would still fit.
    It worked flawlessly but I didn't have much use for the extra ram over the life of it. I used Revolver software to task switch between open programs and could load enormous graphics slide shows with a program (Spectrum 512??) that could take higher color bit depth from Amiga .ham files and with some graphics trickery, could display them interlaced which preserved most of the image quality from the Amiga on the Atari ST. It was amazing but was interlaced to mimick the Amiga display so it gave you a headache.
    I could also render small samples of audio in 22khz with the extra ram. I think it was about half the quality of a cd music track.
    I think there were demos that took advantage of more ram towards the end of its lifespan.
    The ST was a great machine. People don't give it the credit it deserves.

  • @Coda429
    @Coda429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice to see some rare Atari content. Adrian you really need to feature some Atari 8 bit computers--very interesting and capable machines.

  • @Anaerin
    @Anaerin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a white slider on either side of those 3" drives that opens the shutter over the disk.

  • @robertcase2961
    @robertcase2961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    21:00 It's normal for IBM PCs to only do a seek on the A: drive during boot. Same goes for the XT, PCjr (if it's equipped with a second floppy drive) and I believe the AT as well. Not so sure on the PS/2 line, tho.
    Also, it's period correct for the A: drive to be on the left and B: drive to be on the right. ;-)

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer2986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful ST. Good to see a CP/M card being fixed.

  • @SomePeopleCallMeWulfman
    @SomePeopleCallMeWulfman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The disc labeled LogoScript should be LocoScript. It' a word processor for the Amstrad PCW / CPC. Digital Research CP/M was a pack-in disc that came with Amstrad's disc drive. I used CP/M on my CPC 464 to play Infocom text adventures.

  • @arnolda.lampel6087
    @arnolda.lampel6087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    :-D
    Yes those 3 Inch Floppies have a disk protection that slides open while they are being inserted. Check the SIDE of the floppy, there is a small rail with a notch that pulls the slider open ;-)

  • @rastislavzima
    @rastislavzima 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think nobody mentioned yet that 3" discs were used also with Oric Atmos computer (more popular in France than in UK) and with the Elan Enterprise 128 (again more popular in Hungary than in UK), but both drives are super rare and expencive as hell. You can open 3" disk by sliding the white slider on the side of the disk.

  • @KaterKomPuter
    @KaterKomPuter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BtW, the Alien Game looks awesome

    • @anomaly95
      @anomaly95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks good as a side-scroller/shooter, but it doesn't really fit into the Alien timeline.

  • @infi84
    @infi84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    no love for Alien 3 :( I loved that movie, it's a lot more subtle and more back to the horror roots of the original Alien, Aliens (2) was a good action flick though.

    • @anomaly95
      @anomaly95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      David Fincher also directed it. His movies are an acquired taste.
      It was definitely not the worst movie in the franchise though. Alien 4 might take that title.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5250 emulation is for connecting to an IBM System/36 or AS/400 minicomputer system.

  • @jjjacer
    @jjjacer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @26:35 yeah its a terminal emulator card, usually used to allow a PC to connect to an System/34-System/38 or AS/400 Midrange systems. and like the name suggest it emulates a 5250 terminal.

  • @patrickcardon1643
    @patrickcardon1643 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3" discs are common on UK machines ... Amstrad 6128 or even Sinclair ZX Spectrum +3 (machine put out by Amstrad after they bought Sinclair). You can find those everywhere on this side of the pond.

  • @WY.C64-Guy
    @WY.C64-Guy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one friend who had an ST... It was the first time I saw the game "The Black Cauldron" from Sierra Online. Also, 7th Guest was a lot of fun... My sisters and I solved it together. Otherwise... Good memories about my post-C64 PC days...

  • @P5ychoFox
    @P5ychoFox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those 3” CF-2 disks are for an Amstrad PCW 8256. It should say Locoscript (excellent word processing program). I’m the guy who made up Perifractic’s Gotek for his PCW.

  • @simontuchman5181
    @simontuchman5181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dang. I really wanted to see you run turbocad.

  • @Хлебун
    @Хлебун 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Adrian, can you somehow scan that TurboCad front cover (32:32) and upload it to the internet? archive dot org maybe, because it looks wonderful and i had no luck finding a scan of it

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I preferred the layout of my old original Atari ST which had the mouse and joystick ports on the side. Sure, it meant that the disk drives were external, but to me that is far more usable than having to flip over the machine any time you want to switch out a mouse or a joystick.

  • @dougbergen8157
    @dougbergen8157 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff. I would like the cardware and heartware disks imaged please. The IBM version is not online. Thx

  • @HiddenAsbestos
    @HiddenAsbestos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    31:45 - I wonder if that's part of the difference between the 8088 and 8088-2 ? Some minor fixes in addition to improved clock speed rating ?

    • @adriansdigitalbasement
      @adriansdigitalbasement  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite possible! My 5150 is all original and a Rev A machine, so it certainly has the original 8088 vs the -2 variant.

    • @spatulasnout
      @spatulasnout 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adriansdigitalbasement Found this quotation from the 8086 Users Manual online:
      "A MOV (move) to segment register instruction and a POP segment register instruction are treated similarly: no interrupt is recognized until after the following instruction. This mechanism protects a program that is changing to a new stack (by updating SS and SP). If an interrupt were recognized after SS had been changed, but before SP had been altered, the processor would push the flags, CS and IP into the wrong area of memory. It follows from this that whenever a segment register and another value must be updated together, the segment register should be changed first, followed immediately by the instruction that changes the other value."
      Apparently early revisions of 8086 and 8088 unintentionally omitted this protective feature.

  • @SuperTekBoy1
    @SuperTekBoy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember playing the demo of Alien 3 on the Amiga 500+ when I was a kid. :)

  • @aitchpea6011
    @aitchpea6011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the Amstrad CPCs (8 bit home computers) and PCW (word processor) series worked with those 3-inch disks. Some other computers used them, but not many.

  • @countersurprise
    @countersurprise 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahah Gerbrand Sterrenburg; mooie inzending en goeie grap met je naam :)

  • @sarreqteryx
    @sarreqteryx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:59 top right of the label "Atari STM1" Sixteen Thirtytwo Mouse 1. it looks like either your ball rollers are dirty, or the roll encoders are wonky