Would never truly understand why low back pain can occur from inactive glutes but explaining the sequence of activation makes perfect sense, amazing stuff.
Thank you so much John Gibbons. I am constantly returning to your videos to enhance my learning and understanding. Clear, thorough, concise explanations every time! Absolutely superb.
Thank you so much for your great video! It's very funny that John is saying "slowly lift up" but the woman keeps on lifting the leg quickly lol from Japan, Physical Therapist.
I have the same problem, so my kyneto terapist gave me exercises for the right side glutes and that made the pain worse..I have cronic low back pain and I think I might have a LxL forward sacral torsion and that is causing also my right glutes missfiring. thanks a lot for all your videos!
If you exercise the gluteals and they are weak because of underlying issues like the Psoas, rec fem and adductors are held in a short and tight position, or hip pathology like arthritis, labral tear or even a S1 nerve issue then the Gluteal maximus will switch off so exercises to strengthen the Glutes are pointless in this case. Regards JG
@@JohnGibbons so if you got Psoas, rec fem and adductors are held in a short and tight position... would you recommend releasing these muscles (soft tissue; direction inhibition; MET???)... and then eventually strengthen gluteals? or would you work on trying to get firing patterns in this video sorted first (i.e. develop better mind-body connection/awareness)?
I was under the impression muscle activation sequence is always proximal to distal (so in this case lumbar bilateral, more pronounce lumbar contralateral side, then left gluten, then left hamstring for movement of hip extension prone). Similar to if client was supine and trying to perform straight leg raise ( we would fill activation proximal to distal: core/abdominal, hip flexor, etc..) Nice Series of Videos.
Hi John, what course is this video a part of? Do you go into how to solve the issue in said course also?. Great video, really find them all a great help.
Hi John - again another really great video like all of them 🙌🙌🤙 just wondering if you have the link to view the video for the misfiring Glutes and how to get them to fire with the hamstring group? (I’m being lazy not looking through the many videos lol!)
Great video with comprehensive explanation! I assume that for testing proper firing of muscles in any movement one has to know the correct order of firing prior to this. Any good resource/book to learn this? Thanks for the great content anyway!
Thanks for the comments and i recommend the Vital Glutes book as it explains the video above and not much money to buy on my website or Amazon. regards JG
I would like to ask about the sequence in the muscle activation . You say that the hamstrings and the gluteus maximus should fire in the same time but in the second edition of Muscle Energy techniques written by Leon Chaitow is said that the sequence should begin with the contraction of the gluteus and then of the hamstrings. Could you , please, clarify that for me. Thank you
This video is the best. Is there a muscle testing method that you mainly follow or do you use a number of different methods in your evaluations? I wanna learn just to solve my own issues.
I have watched all your relevant videos, I have a question: while lying prone I have difficulty contracting my left glute (right works fine); and my internal rotation on left leg is also restricted. Would that explain the glute misfiring while lying prone? Meanwhile I can squeeze the glute while lying on my back but not when I'm on my stomach. Like your patient I have a history of back pathology as well but never had pain in hips. Any recommendations?
Sounds like there is an issue with the hip joint if there is no internal rotation compared to the other side and can be responsible for the inhibition of the glutes. Hope that helps and get someone to look at your hip joint as that can also be responsible for your back pain. Regards JG
Why do we want the contralateral to contract before ipsi just curious? Is it just because it will stabilise the spine as you contract glute balancing out?
Hi Rob, if you stood on the say the left leg then you feel the RIGHT lower erector contract so thats what happens in normal function. The ideal will the either the Gmax, then Hamstrings, contra erector lumbar then ispi lumbar erector, then contra thoracolumbar and finally ipsi thoracolumbar. Hope that helps, regards JG
Sometimes, however you have to try and find the source of why the glutes are not firing correctly before you start exercising as you might have hip pathology like a labral tear that causes the gluteus maximus to switch off. Hope that helps, regards JG
thanks for answer Mr gibbons! i hope you will do a video about that as you said in video. i think without major pathology we teach patients correct form for lifting someting like deadlift will fix the firing patern or life style can inhibit maximus such as a lot sitting etc
Hi John - again another really great video like all of them 🙌🙌🤙 just wondering if you have the link to view the video for the misfiring glute and how to get them to fire with the hamstring group? (I’m being lazy not looking through the many videos lol!)
Would never truly understand why low back pain can occur from inactive glutes but explaining the sequence of activation makes perfect sense, amazing stuff.
Thanks for the message, regards JG
Thank you so much John Gibbons. I am constantly returning to your videos to enhance my learning and understanding. Clear, thorough, concise explanations every time! Absolutely superb.
You are very welcome and thanks for the message, regards JG
Another amazing well explained video John...really helps with my learning as a myotherapist student
Thanks, regards JG
thank you very much. Always a good sign when somebody is able to explain a difficult concept simply!
Thats very kind of you to say that and its appreciated...thanks Regards JG
Thank you so much for your great video!
It's very funny that John is saying "slowly lift up" but the woman keeps on lifting the leg quickly lol
from Japan, Physical Therapist.
Glad you enjoyed it! Regards JG
Fab info, thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
I have the same problem, so my kyneto terapist gave me exercises for the right side glutes and that made the pain worse..I have cronic low back pain and I think I might have a LxL forward sacral torsion and that is causing also my right glutes missfiring. thanks a lot for all your videos!
If you exercise the gluteals and they are weak because of underlying issues like the Psoas, rec fem and adductors are held in a short and tight position, or hip pathology like arthritis, labral tear or even a S1 nerve issue then the Gluteal maximus will switch off so exercises to strengthen the Glutes are pointless in this case. Regards JG
@@JohnGibbons so if you got Psoas, rec fem and adductors are held in a short and tight position... would you recommend releasing these muscles (soft tissue; direction inhibition; MET???)... and then eventually strengthen gluteals? or would you work on trying to get firing patterns in this video sorted first (i.e. develop better mind-body connection/awareness)?
Thank you John for the latest videos. Superb as usual. Top man
Paul Smith glad you like them...regards JG
I was under the impression muscle activation sequence is always proximal to distal (so in this case lumbar bilateral, more pronounce lumbar contralateral side, then left gluten, then left hamstring for movement of hip extension prone). Similar to if client was supine and trying to perform straight leg raise ( we would fill activation proximal to distal: core/abdominal, hip flexor, etc..)
Nice Series of Videos.
WOW! It's super educational.
Thats very kind and pleased you like the videos, regards JG
Very interesting, look forward to more videos on it.
Thanks for the message and I do have more videos, regards JG
in most of my patients I find a weak glute medius ...once that is strengthened ..firing sequence restores ..isnt that weird
We are all unique individuals...thanks for the comments, regards jG
Hi John, what course is this video a part of? Do you go into how to solve the issue in said course also?. Great video, really find them all a great help.
Excellent video. Great explanations
Glad you enjoyed it! Regards JG
Hi John - again another really great video like all of them 🙌🙌🤙 just wondering if you have the link to view the video for the misfiring Glutes and how to get them to fire with the hamstring group? (I’m being lazy not looking through the many videos lol!)
Great video with comprehensive explanation! I assume that for testing proper firing of muscles in any movement one has to know the correct order of firing prior to this. Any good resource/book to learn this? Thanks for the great content anyway!
Thanks for the comments and i recommend the Vital Glutes book as it explains the video above and not much money to buy on my website or Amazon. regards JG
Excellent video, when is the next one going to be out? I can't wait
Hey John.Any source of this information about muscle timing (firing)?Thanks
Plenty of information in my Vital Glutes book and also on my website have a FREE article on the glutes, regards JG
I would like to ask about the sequence in the muscle activation . You say that the hamstrings and the gluteus maximus should fire in the same time but in the second edition of Muscle Energy techniques written by Leon Chaitow is said that the sequence should begin with the contraction of the gluteus and then of the hamstrings. Could you , please, clarify that for me. Thank you
I tend the say the Gmax should fire first, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons Thanks a lot ! Great video !
What is the key of the correct firing sequence? Is it a strong core? Strong glutes?
This video is the best. Is there a muscle testing method that you mainly follow or do you use a number of different methods in your evaluations? I wanna learn just to solve my own issues.
I have watched all your relevant videos, I have a question: while lying prone I have difficulty contracting my left glute (right works fine); and my internal rotation on left leg is also restricted. Would that explain the glute misfiring while lying prone? Meanwhile I can squeeze the glute while lying on my back but not when I'm on my stomach. Like your patient I have a history of back pathology as well but never had pain in hips. Any recommendations?
Sounds like there is an issue with the hip joint if there is no internal rotation compared to the other side and can be responsible for the inhibition of the glutes. Hope that helps and get someone to look at your hip joint as that can also be responsible for your back pain. Regards JG
Thank you so much. @@JohnGibbons
Why do we want the contralateral to contract before ipsi just curious? Is it just because it will stabilise the spine as you contract glute balancing out?
Hi Rob, if you stood on the say the left leg then you feel the RIGHT lower erector contract so thats what happens in normal function. The ideal will the either the Gmax, then Hamstrings, contra erector lumbar then ispi lumbar erector, then contra thoracolumbar and finally ipsi thoracolumbar. Hope that helps, regards JG
can isometric exercise can improve muscle firing?
Sometimes, however you have to try and find the source of why the glutes are not firing correctly before you start exercising as you might have hip pathology like a labral tear that causes the gluteus maximus to switch off. Hope that helps, regards JG
thanks for answer Mr gibbons! i hope you will do a video about that as you said in video. i think without major pathology we teach patients correct form for lifting someting like deadlift will fix the firing patern or life style can inhibit maximus such as a lot sitting etc
I will be adding a video on some of the causes for inhibited Glutes. Regards JG
Hi John - again another really great video like all of them 🙌🙌🤙 just wondering if you have the link to view the video for the misfiring glute and how to get them to fire with the hamstring group? (I’m being lazy not looking through the many videos lol!)