THIS is The Biggest Reason For DETROIT'S DOWNFALL | West Side Hoods 5K.
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- Detroit has long suffered from high rates of crime, gang violence, drugs, unemployment rates and poverty. Pretty much everything negative trait that you can think of for a city. In this video, I talk about the biggest event that made Detroit begin it's economic downward spiral. Among other things, we go by the Motown Museum in this video and talk about what helped make Detroit a center for the nations popular music during the 1960's. I also talk about Rosa Parks and her experiences in Detroit, and we go by the house that she once lived in.
Lincoln Street Art Park: 0:00 - 3:45
Motown/West Grand Boulevard Corridor: 3:45 - 6:55
Detroit's 1967 Riots/Rosa Parks: 6:55 - 16:16
Detroit's Near Westside Hoods: 16:16 - 32:55
Boston-Edison Neighborhood: 32:55 - 37:59
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Cody High, Class of 84..... I know exactly why Detroit is like it is.
A big part of it is Coleman A Young
In my opinion the biggest reason for Detroit downfall is our stupid Mayors and City Council. It use to be that in order to work in Detroit you had to live in the city, as soon as that rule changed most of the people I was working with moved out of the city (me included). It is cheaper to live in other cities around Detroit. For example car insurance gets cheaper once you cross 8 Mile, the hospitals are better also. Then they also started to tear down old neighborhoods and build expensive condominiums that a lot of people can't afford or don't want because they come with HOAs. A Condo is just an apartment that you own, and apartments comes with built in problems.
@@daddybdpearson1 yea that RUINED my neighborhood!!....... Warrendale was such a great place to grow up in, Long as we stayed on our side of Rouge park... might as well said you lived in Dearborn Hgts
do you live in the area? I live just west of Detroit. I fly FPV quadcopters and can get you some arial shots.
@@scooby3133 Out near Brighton these days, dont go to the old neighborhood very often any more
I worked in Detroit as an electronics installer of various components, stereos,vcr's.tv's,computers from 1984 until 2001. I always met the most kind and wonderful people welcoming me into their homes, by the way, most of the up kept homes, even in the most blighted area's of the city are immaculate and beautiful on the inside from my experiences. Every area you display in this video is familiar to me. I enjoyed the job and people I met during that part of my life.Thank you so much for some great memories.
I was born and raised in Detroit, experienced "busing". Busing increased white flight by an order of magnitude. My family did not move and it was horrible.
Would like to hear more about the busing experience!
@@NorceCodinesame!
@@NorceCodine it's when you don't walk to school three blocks away, you get on a bus and go to a school three to five miles away in a strange place in a strange neighborhood to "integrate" schools. Making it hard for one car households to access their children in an emergency. After school care difficult and waste an awful lot of gas and other resources during the fuel crunch of the early 70's. This also devalues property, as most people sending their children to public schools in Detroit liked the walkability and the social interaction of friends, neighbors watching out. Alot of moms stayed home, but many were entering the job force, leaving children hanging without cohesive afterschool activities. Other School programs suffered as a result of the budget changes to accomodate bussing. And there went the neighborhood.. And the quality of education.
My dad's family lived on 7 mile between Woodward and John R in the 60s during the riots. Shortly after the riots happened my grandfather put the house for sale as he viewed it no longer safe to raise a family in the city with small children. Other people might down play the role the riot/riots had on people leaving but the main driving factor for my dads family and many other families that lived on the same block leaving Detroit was the riots.
Your Grandfather was a wise man with foresight.
Those are rare.
Where did the family settle?
@@thisismagacountry1318 They moved to a couple places like Royal Oak, Hazel Park, and Clawson. Im not too sure on how many separate houses they moved before my grandfather and grandma got divorced. After that my dad and grandfather moved to Troy in the mid to late 70s when it still had a lot of farms/way less suburban/city like then it is now.
Flight was the smart play without exception. No shame in abandoning a sinking ship which would not have improved in his lifetime or his grandchildren's lifetime. Good for him. My uncle left for the same reason.
I've lived here for 56 years. Today, just about 20 minutes north of the city. Detroit originally came to be because it was America's largest trade route back when the waterways were the highways. Decades later when train commerce became the norm, Detroit and Michigan in general were a little out of the loop. And then when the interstates took over it was the final nail in the coffin. A central location with interstate commerce between the Atlantic and Pacific not to mention, warmer climates without dealing with these harsh winters, makes the southern state locations much more desirable. These are the primary reasons that Michigan in general isn't as desirable for industry today as it once was.
We have seen a lot of that flight from the northern states here in Texas
Mate, they closed Pontiac Motors, Fisher Body, General Motors Truck and Coach, Saginaw Gear and on and on, plus all the (Federal) DOD jobs lost, when they shut down all the military installations. I left the USA after 9 years Army and moved to Australia to be a college teacher... I'm 100% disabled because of Agent Orange (Dixon Poisoning according to the US Veterans Administration)... Michigan was once a beautiful state. In the 60's in High School you either did "General Education" as you were going to work at an auto plane...great pay, union and benefits or "College Prep" as you planned to attend university ... My father had 164 Acres of woods and a cabin near Oscoda Michigan, deer and rabbit hunting.... plus swimming in lake Huron...so very sad really. I served with a lot of black men in my team, one, who died, was my best friend. I can't imagine being treated the way Americans treat Patriots! All my Avondale School friends have properties in Northern Michigan, all water front, except one ex-Screaming Eagle...lives next to a golf course... man loves the game.
@@airbrushken5339 Michigan still is a beautiful state. The nature is still here, trees, lakes, golf courses, etc.
@@doninmichigan I know about Golf Courses as our 164 Acres in Oscoda is now a golf course...before COVID I took my Australian wife to see where I grew up and went by the Farm (now townhouses and small airplane runway) next to our place and The explanation of transport is off as the UP of Michigan was a big iron ore supply and the great lakes and the St. Lawrence seaway carried it to Different northern cities and on to the east coast.
@@airbrushken5339 my dad worked on the shipping barges on the Great Lakes for a short time before he immigrated to Dearborn in the early 50's
When you have a mayor who stole taxpayer money for 30 + years and another mayor who thought the city coffers were his personal slush fund to pay for his gangsta lifestyle it shows after a while.
BINGO! The Hon. Coleman A. Young had more to do with the destruction of the city of Detroit than the riots in 1967.
@@dougbrowne9890 - I can remember Detroit before '67 and it was a great place to visit. I worked in Southfield, MI (crossed the border every day) for many years and watched the decay slowly take over the once great city. What Young and Kilpatrick did to Detroit was criminal.
Looks like Africa !!!
Skin color.... NUFF SAID !!!
When you have no leadership. Have corrupt people in office like Mayor Duggan, City Council, who don't care about the people. Many have been here for years and stayed here for years.
Born, raised and left Detroit. We all know why it’s ruined.
Wow Chris! You hit it again. I was an 8 year boy during the Detroit riots and it was horrifying. Lived on Elmhurst at the John C Lodge freeway. Everything changed after that. We then moved west to Hazelwood near Linwood where I attended Durfee and then Central High School. It’s sad to see so much empty space. It was so beautiful before. Anyway, thanks again for taking me down memory lane. Love your videos. 🙏
It's a shame a crying shame . I don't think it will ever recover . Anyone with anything left because of crime . An when did the auto places shut down ? I hear that's when things really went down . Sad
Flint and Detroit have a "cause" in common. Both implemented a city income tax, and viewed automobile factories as a limitless source of revenue. It's not like they could move somewhere else!
Very true,….but there’s another major contributor to both cities decline, as well as others in Michigan and elsewhere. I wonder what that is?
@@bondpit8750 interestingly, after the city of Detroit declared bankruptcy a few years ago, the 80%+ black population elected a white man to be the new mayor and run the city. That got zero national publicity.
@@bondpit8750Wherever the jobs go, a certain demographic of folks have the resources and money to follow them.
Majority of government within the state of Michigan are also complicit. They are stuck in the 1940s - 1950s mindset 🤣 Attract investment and not just from Asia.
My father was a Detroit Police officer during the '67 riots. One of the situations he was involved in was when he and his fellow officers were being held down by sniper fire from a third-floor abandoned tenement apartment bldg. It was his group's responsibility to lay down tracer fire to give the TANK rolling into place a 'target'. My dad said he couldn't believe how loud the round fired from the tank's gun turret was. Even more: the destruction wrought by it. He said the whole front of the building collapsed! Needless to say, the sniper fire ceased.🤣
@@dknowles60 - Governor Romney (yes, Mitt's dad) announced that looters would be shot. After a few were shot, the looting stopped cold!
Go figure! 😄
Orion, My father was a Detroit police officer too during the 67 riot. He was injured by shrapnel when someone was shooting at them. He had to shoot out streetlights to protect the Detroit fireman putting out the fires. We lived on the eastside.
@@bobmackay3414 That must have been some sight to see. I'd forgot about the tank, holy fk! We were in the suburbs astonished at all the mayhem we were seeing on tv and reading in the newspapers.
Was 12 watching 👀 tanks roll down HARPER AND VANDYKE . TOOK NO CRAP FOR THOSE ANIMALS.
I didn't know dogs and cats rioted.. FYI, there were many Whites who rioted also.. Folks were getting fed up with the racism... You wouldn't understand, of course..
I’m from Detroit and I have lived in various parts of the city. I’m happy to see your videos on Detroit! I haven’t lived in Detroit in over 6 years, but to see you go thru some of the sectors/neighborhoods I have lived in brings such nostalgia! Detroit Vs. Everybody all day! Lol
The same thing is happening today. The increase of violent crime in New York City, Chicago and other north eastern cities is driving those who can leave south to the sun belt.
The data does not support this claim. New York and Chicago, for example, have lower crime rates than Houston, Dallas, Phoenix...
Many of you here blame a lot of this on the Democrats. But what about St. Louis? Missouri is a very Republican state.
@@brianbeecher3084 LOL Red state but Kansas City and St Louis are both run by Dems .Im a long time St Louis resident and am about to escape the crazy liberal dems. Crazy policies, corruption, nepotism and racial tensions is off the charts. Ive had enough, moving far outside of the blue controlled area. I love my state but refuse to live in a blue city within my state, so long St Louis and hello Missouri Ozarks.
You know the real reason, you can’t say the real reason
@No Trace Which is supported by White America!
EXACTLY !!! I know, I was there when it all happened. I saw them burning homes of innocent people. They were the reason we had to mov to the suburbs. They took over n claimed Detroit, basically kicking us out because we were not the same color. They were wrong to do what they did. We miss living in Detroit but have been told we are not welcome because of the color of our skin. My mom was born n raised in Detroit. We lived in South West when my parents got married n had me n my sister's. We went to Detroit Schools. It was heart breaking to have to leave.
@@cortezmiller1899 Not THIS white American!
@No Trace Why do people equate BLM with an event for whatever reason they disapprove of ? Its like saying All white people are like Trump . I thought BLM came about after over a century of dreadful racial discrimination that largely carries on today ? But better not mention that .
There you Go! PC got you scared to point out that Blacks are jejune, hedonistic, criminogenic, and angry racists.... I moved out of Southern California to get away from Blacks for the reasons above.... every place Blacks settle in ..."same things": crime, homicides, ebonics, bling-bling, dredlocks, violent gangs, BABY MOMS,, BABY GANGSTAS,, wanton twerking sexuality, parties, alcohol, drugs, blight, noise, and racist antisocial hate against " themselves" ... and all others. Nobody want to point out these glaring. truths because of PC.... "White supremacy" is a ridiculous excuse to mollify and excuse Black culture.
And, oh, gimme a break: Roll out Rosa Parks! .....Have you ever visited Black high schools?
Keep making victimhood excuses ( White cops, etc, etc,) ...Nothing will change!
Born and raised in Michigan. Left in 1973 and have only been back to visit. Lived in several cities with Flint being the longest. Your video on Highland Park video came up as recommended. So I watched it, now watching this one. Plan to watch more. Good stuff. Last time back to Flint was 2013, showed my wife my old neighborhoods, wow that city has changed. We also spent time in the UP. I have family and relatives allover the state. You can't take the Michigan out of a Michigander. I live in the Philippines now, have for a number of years.
Added after watching. I remember the riots they spread up to Filnt too. So glad you mentioned Sacred Heart Seminary. I have a cousin who was there during the riots. A few years later I visited the Seminary and he showed my their scrapbook of photos from that time.
My friend moved to Shanghai, it's sad what happened here I just pray to God that the rest of the nation learns from what happened here. Because all of it is repeating now. The black radicals the screaming for communist style social programs and progressive policies. It will happen all over again and these morons are so high on virtue signaling and morality that they will let the nation fall apart
Who in their right mind would invest in an area ravaged by unruly criminals?
If the graffiti artists would vector their spray paint costs toward clean-up efforts, the city would benefit immensely.
From a EU perspective, we have similar places here which all share one thing in common: their downfall was due to socialism. So am I guessing correctly by assuming that democrats played a part in this ?
Nope, try again.
As more scroungers demanded benefits, more overburdened taxpayers fled. Welfare bled the city dry.
Love your videos! To play devil’s advocate, low income housing does kill the possibility for generational wealth, keeping the same families in perpetual poverty.
Subsidised public housing is an income/benefit im regard to the low rent... However, that housing becomes undesirable and the subsidised rent not worth the squalid living.. Better to give poor people the cash to rent on the open market..such a policy helps to disperse the poor which is advantages to them & soceity..
Nothing is stopping the kids born there from making something of themselves.
Segregation practices are NOT why Detroit looks the way it does today! You know it!
Haha, you are so right but let’s not discuss the elephant standing in the room cause that would not be PC!
For ten points: Wikipedia says the population of Detroit is 77% ____________.
"Segregation is why Detroit has fallen so hard." That's laughable on many levels. I suggest sticking with topics you can make definitive statements about that are researched. Your efforts must be applauded though, some work went in to this.
"Any society that takes away from those most capable and gives to the least will perish." -- Abraham Lincoln
Who determines what “capable” is and who qualifies. Abraham Lincoln is the same man who said he would not have freed the slaves if he thought the war could have been won with out it. With the stroke of a pen, enslaved people became “capable.”
I know you said you weren't going to mention all the well known athletes who went to Northwestern. But you should have mentioned Willie Horton as he played for the hometown Tigers. And went over to the riots still in his uniform to try to calm everyone down.
Yes he did. And John Conyers risked his neck to bring the peace. Many did. But those are two I rememebr well.
Great job, Chris! Love the commentary, as usual.
What a beautiful public school. Shows what wealth we really had.
You would not find a more grand in posh England.
Find some videos of the inside of Central High, it's like a castle :)
#6.. right field.. Al Kaline.. that's all I know about Detroit. I'm here in Brooklyn but all I got to say is he was one of the greatest ball players I ever saw play the game..
pgoove211,
Good to hear from another old geezer who remembers Kaline's corner in Briggs Stadium. My buddy Cliff and I used to sneak down there from the bleachers to catcall to Al's back. He never paid any attention to us, but between batters he would sometimes turn around, take off his hat and brush his right hand with his flat-top.
Al Kaline from Baltimore City.
I lived in Windsor and saw the tanks parked at the Anbassador bridge. Smoke on the skyline. I was 14.
Great video. You drove by three different locations that I lived many years ago. No matter what people say about Detroit 'coming back', personally I'll never will.
I live on the other side of the state now and when I meet someone who was in the area in 67, to this day the "where were you when the riots happened?" Is a shared experience that each one shares. It's seared in our memories.
They Didn't Stay Employed And During The Years These Neighborhoods Were So Beautiful Those Residence Are Now Retired,Moved Out With Children,Or Deceased."They Took Care This Is The Tragedy Of Drugs The Drug War And No Production!!!"
Well I was 11 years old out in the newly designated suburb of Westland, and there was a curfew to be inside at dark I believe. We were worried that the mayhem would spread to the suburbs, but it never did. I think the National Guard was called into Detroit from what I remember. Scary times, but the Tigers won the World Series the following year.
The '67 riots burned down businesses, homes etc. in their OWN neighborhood. Over 7,000 arrested and they now had a criminal record against them which I'm sure was helpful when they apply for employment and many people/families and remaining businesses moved away never to return.
Who was applying for jobs. You ever look into The politics and what party was helping there pockets in the aftermath? Chicago South side,Gary,Michigan City,Benton Harbor, Flint,Cleveland, Detroit,Harlem. Yeh only work was boarding sht up and hauling stuff away
@Francis janiewski the point being made is gainful employment can be more of a challenge if you have an arrest record. Granted jobs will be scarce in your neighborhood after you've looted and burned businesses down and expecting those businesses and future investments to return besides the liquor store on every other corner, a few fast food joints and small convenience stores with employees behind plexiglass barriers.
I worked in South Bend half my life,not just observation but some locals that did want respectable work the competition to be the corner boy slinging dope says Why work a crappy sweat shop job with layoffs and payouts for what? To make $1000 A day or $700 a week working which did they choose? More stayed away then not. I worked with one guy was head of a large gang and he didn't work for the check he stayed for the insurance, but that was depleted last contract. So what is the answer I don't have any, I sit here after 46 yrs of hard work in agony 9 disc's in my back nearly gone arthritis in major joints,little piece of pension pie because my Dad told me what to do. But I can't fix someone else's family. But giving people money for life isn't the answer neither is slinging dope. Life do your best and the audience is small.
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I was in LA for the Rodney King riot. People burned down their own homes and then later wondered what they were going to do. I hope they are happy with the outcome.
Beautiful homes towards the end. I'm surprised they are so close together. Just enough room for a car to drive down the driveway. Very nice video! So much I didn't know about the area! Thanks for educating us!!
I can get I was honestly a bit under impressed
No mention of the fact that Japanese auto imports are what destroyed not just Detroit, but Gary (US Steel) and other manufacturing centers as well. Then the factories started moving to the South for cheaper labor and no unions and overseas for even more of the same.
I don't think that's Central High School's original location. The Riots did indeed begin at 12th and Clairmont, but Linwood Avenue (the nearest major street-featured in this video,) saw a lot of "action" as well. The author showed an extensive stretch of Grand River Avenue, and that street saw rioting along about two miles of its' length. Almost from the long-gone Olympia Stadium (where the Red Wings used to play-they've moved twice) to Downtown. The Victorian Woodbridge Community lies along part of Grand River. It has been somewhat Gentrified. But-there was also rioting along Oakland Avenue on the Near North Side. Some Motown Greats grew up there, too, and there was a student strike at Northern High School there, in 1966-to protest overcrowding.
The East Side has a LOT of issues, too. There was a near-riot there, on Pennsylvania, back in 1966. And, in the '67 Riots, Mack Avenue had looting and burning, and Kercheval had looting from East Grand Blvd all the way to the Grosse Point city limit.
The Twelfth Street District where the riot began, was itself a nice area at one time. It was platted back in 1914, and was heavily Jewish. It changed racially in about five years, from 1947-1953, and remained nice for maybe five more years. Some of the overcrowding was due to the demolition of Black Bottom, near Downtown, and parts of Paradise Valley to the North. There were some housing projects built, (which were a Disaster, as elsewhere in America) but the displaced people needed somewhere else to live. Similarly, when the Michigan Avenue skid row was demolished, back in the Fifties, a lot of its' Denizens simply relocated to The Cass Corridor (now known as Midtown) and the latter became a hub of alcoholism, drugs and vice. There has been a lot of renewal in that area of late.
The loss of automobile jobs was the Death knell for Detroit, but VHA loans, and the construction of the freeways encouraged the growth of the Suburbs. A lot of housing, of course, had to be demolished/moved to make room for said freeways, which also divided and isolated neighborhoods.
There were a few Black enclaves on the West Side before World War Two, but most lived East of Woodward. Livernois/Tireman/Grand River form a right triangle, and a lot of it was built from 1910-1930. African Americans would get arrested or assaulted if they ranged outside of that triangle. Nowadays, it's Pure Black, and very dilapidated.
From Livernois to the Lodge Freeway, the greater area is known as "Barton McFarland East."
I worked at long-gone Kirwood Hospital for one year, back in the Eighties. It was on Davison, East of Livernois, closer to Dexter. A lot of our patients had alcoholic pancreatitis, and abcesses, or other infections, from injecting Heroin. The War on Drugs has caused a LOT of tragedy.
I remember being driven to piano lessons at the music institute in the 1960s-70s. We took John R. south of Grand Blvd., to Kirby. That stretch between John R. and Brush was very Old, and a Terrible slum! We're talking wooden tenements with plastic drop cloths for windows, with a smattering of row houses. Most of it is vacant lots now.
I've LIVED in"Barton McFarland"for over FIFTY years,and in fact graduated from Barton Elementary in 1982,and it's still a stable community to THIS hour!! And there was no"riot"on 12th Street in 1967,yet after being abused,bullied and murdered by rogue cops for decades,with no hope of respite,what transpired was a RETALIATION!! There was a '67 Retaliation!! Heavy-handed Detroit police officers aggravated the recoil!!
Usually when cities get labeled as bad, its Sooooo hard to shed that label but from Detroit I've seen in 2007 vs 2022, the improvements are very impressive, cause Michigan wants Detroit to stop being rated the worst city when even thats not true
Detroit is a terrible city. Most other major cities do not have blocks and hundreds of abandoned, burnt down houses. Everyone for the past 25 years has said Detroit is on its way back up. Detroit will never be like what it was in the 1940/50s.
@@lemongrass3945 honestly it doesn't need to be like the 40s or 50s, just better then what it was in 07. It will probably take 50 years before we see any major changes but calling Detroit the worst city in America is a major eye roll
Yeah, drove through the Greektown Casino parking garage with my 96 Riviera flashing 2 Spurs Championship Flags in 2005.
They didn't like that for some reason.
Take this any way you want but you couldn't pay me to live in Detroit.
Detroit's biggest reason for going down hill was that all the hard working and smart people headed to safer city's.
Let's keep it real simple hard-working white people left
born and raised in Windsor and went to Detroit often. Moved to Vancouver in 1978. I was 18 at the time of the riots and remember the smoke engulfing the sky on the other side of the Detroit River. The river has improved much in the past 10 -15 years and both Windsor and Detroit look much cleaner now that so much of the industry has left all through both cities and along the river. The trees and green vegetation and the beautiful brick homes even in the poor neglected areas are truly amazing. So much potential to make this place flourish again. Weather is not so bad much like New York city. In Canada Windsor is likely the best place to live regarding weather.
Another professionally filmed, well-researched Detroit video. Keep up the good work, I really enjoy these.
Thanks! Will do.
Lived in Mt. Clemens back in the early 60's, I was very young at the time. Our family moved out in 64 and never returned. If a city or any part of city that wants to rejuvenate it's has to have security. When people believe it's unsafe to live, work or shop they don't come or want to live there. The people have to gain control of their government and their streets. Till that happens, Detroit will remain in the state of disrepair.
Well that's really the gist of it, isn't it? People will not live where they do not feel safe. Safety will bring people, people will bring reinvestment, and reinvestment will bring back prosperity.
It was actually a different girl that refused to give up her seat. The movement at the time didn't think she was a good "role model" to use because she was also a teen Mother. So they recruited Rosa and had her replicate the scenario. My Mom and her family grew up in Detroit. They moved after the riots.
I think that's what I said. The unwed Mothers family is trying to get her in the history books. Where she rightfully belongs.
In Detroit the riot started at about 4 AM when police raided a blind pig on 12th and Claremont Because-of the time of night there weren’t enough police to come and help. The first few days the DPD held back but when rioters killed a Fireman the next day the DPD shot over 100 killing 43 and the riot ended
I think a teen mother standing up for what's right is much more impressive and inspiring.
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Nah john is right @@karencansler7127
About a quarter mile west of Motown is a social services agency called Crossroads. They have lightly used clothing, toys, household items, classes and counselling for people who are job hunting, and they run a soup kitchen on sundays when most of the larger soup kitchens take the day off. Stop by and check it out. A ray of hope in a very needy city.
Saw my house at @15:16 nice to see video showing the history of my neighborhood.
I've only been here a few years myself but I absolutely love it down here.
I grew up in a small town in Ohio. in 1969, when I was 6, I was friends with the only black kid in my class, Stanley. One day after school I went to Stanley's house. We took my other friend John (5) with us. Stanley's mother asked us if our parents knew where we were. We said no. She told us to call our parents and tell them. So John called his mom and told her we were at Stanley's house. She asked, "And where is Stanley's house?" He replied, quite loudly, "Where all the black people live!"
I remember Stanley's mom just sort of laughed, but it was an uncomfortable laughter.
I was only 6. It had never occurred to me before, but I suddenly realized all the black people DID live in that area. And it was the area with the smallest, saddest-looking houses. My little town was totally segregated.
Love your vids. I live in Macomb County, Michigan. So I'm familiar with some of the roads you're on but I'm ignorant to a lot of the history that you describe. Great job!
I just saw St. Paul A.M.E. Zion church on Dexter, I was a member of that church when Dr. William Ardrey was pastor, in fact, I had my trial sermon there in 1976 before I moved back to Florida in 1978. Love your video.
My home town. We lived on Lemay...between Kercheval & Vernor. It was so scary during the 12 St riot. There was also a curfew for days. There are no words to describe the fear seeing the National Guard and tanks. Those military tanks...it, literally, looked like a war zone you'd see in was movies 💔 😢
I grew up on Dexter ave in the sixties! You left out almost 50 years of corrupt politicians did not help the city either!
100% Democrats '
They still are today
Dude like republicans are any damned better! Look at Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas.
I had a great childhood in Detroit. I went to private school and I think that made a big difference. It's crazy to think that I don't know one person that lives in Detroit. All of my family and friends live in the suburbs, but I still venture downtown for events when I'm in town. Thanks for sharing the video!
Same
Once again we see that burning down your neighborhood's homes and businesses is one of the best ways for people to improve their lives. Education and hard work are slow, taking years to yield positive results. A quick burn job, now there's a fast solution.
thinman8621,they didn't perceive a neighborhood where they owned nothing,were harassed,and brutalized daily by the"authorities",and prevented from entering most of the businesses AS "their"neighborhood. Think about that. If you've never had to deal with such conditions,don't be so swift in rendering judgement.
Lived all my life in Detroit until '72. Saw a dramatic change from when I got drafted in September '66 to when I came home for good in '68. Sure, the riots in '67 caused a lot of folks to move out, but also city services were lousy, public school cuts, corruption, property taxes were sky high and city income tax made living in Detroit expensive and unsafe. Why put up with incompetence? I bought a house in St Clair Shores in '72 for less cost and half the property taxes of a similar home in Detroit. The popular place for Detroiters to go "party or clubbing" was Toronto that seemed like it was what the Motor city should've been. The automakers didn't help by moving out of the city.
Damn, did people drive back or did they stay at hotels in Toronto? What a drive to go clubbing
@@Tribuneoftheplebs Some drove back(about 4 hours to Sarnia and the Blue Water bridge), most spent the weekend there. The East side had a hotel called Inn on the Park and the west side had the Valhalla with mostly Michigan plates in the parking lot. Toronto had a fantastic subway system that was safe, convenient and inexpensive. Back then , you could ride all over town in the subway for $1.00 plus an attractive exchange rate. Great times and a lot of fun.
Grosse pointe here, great to see you brother. Thank you for your service 🇺🇸
Also the US government should be held accountable for allowing the japs to sell cars here when we can't sell ours there. We had nothing to gain by selling their cars cheaper here. Also we should never have allowed our technology to be used by foreigners that was a huge mistake
Hello from New Zealand 🇳🇿. Boston Edison is absolutely beautiful. Those homes are incredible!
Great music in the background, seems to go nicely with the subject matter. It is not distracting.
Great video sir
'art on buildings' used to be called graffiti......hold the hate, I grew up in a suburb of Detroit. Remember when it was still a beautiful place.
I still call it graffiti.
....and graffiti used to be called vandalism.....
My grandmother managed an apartment building on Henry Street in Detroit. It was called Breton Hall and it looks as pristine today as it did 50 years ago. I have fond memories of Detroit. My dad and I use to walk down Vernon Highway to Briggs Stadium and I used to walk from Henry Street to downtown without any concerns.
Outstanding video I live out of state and I remembering riding the same route LoL when I was living there ( Go Lion's 😆 )
You have some of the best videos
Thanks!
Really enjoy the videos.
It's all about people don't taking responsibility. People who never build anything; but only know how to destroy.
People as you described exist everywhere. They are in every region, religion, ethnicity, and gender. The difference with a place like Detroit is that it allowed for the criminal element to flourish and overtake the many law-abiding, hardworking citizens of the City. When you feed the bad and starve the good, this is what you get.
Whites -- good OR bad -- were considered and treated by our government as the "favored child". Blacks were punished, no matter how decent their behavior.
As an Australian, I just can’t get over how lush and green the grass and other vegetation is in Detroit.
Check out his Flint videos for even more greenery. My hometown.
Very Interesting. Thanks
My parents moved to Detroit right before the 67 riots I miss my hometown I hate the fact that people constantly put Detroit down and seeing Detroit fall on hard times and have such a hard time recovering
The REAL reason is because the auto industry Detroit celebrates in so many ways (Motown, Wings Logo, Chrysler house, GM Renaissance, etc) ABANDONED DETROITERS. I live in Saskatchewan (I know, wtf?). It's a giant prairie province in Canada and nearly 100 years ago the federal govt decided our grid-road systems (for farms) were to be paved. So they sent tons of help and money to get that done. But roads don't last forever, do they? And what has the federal government done since? Zero. So without breaking our bank accounts and our backs all of our roads look like they belong in Detroit.
I'm a road worker.
In the US, once a year road counts are taken (cars per lane mile per hour)
Road money is doled out according to traffic volume per lane mile.
Local public works people can make some adjustments.
If you are unhappy, call and make your opinion known. Be business-like, not emotional. State your case logically and feel free to stress the safety factor.
If we get more calls in a certain area, we will take a closer look.
@@TheBandit7613 That's an absolutely rational, clear-headed assessment of how to lodge road complaints and get action. Anyone reading this who wondered how to do it should wonder no longer - and thank you for your post!
The lack of other vehicles was astonishing to me
Great video. All I see are "mudflood/tartarian" style buildings. So much hidden history
The sheer amounts of empty streets is mind boggling considering they were full of big houses at one time.
Some very nice houses in the better areas of Detroit ☺️!
Woodbridge neighborhood please🙏🏼 Glad I fount your page as a lover of Detroit
I did my doctoral thesis on this very subject but combined with a flavor of urban renewal. If I had the drive, I'd go down there and redo it myself.
The most tear filled was when the train station on michigan ave was torn down. Made me cry.
Michigan Central. Yes, that was like the death of an era when that was shut down. The Fords are making something of it today.
It's good to see a few signs of improvement for this area, but it still has a long way to go. There is a lot of great architecture, which could be an asset to the neighborhood if things can be turned around. These videos show a world that is completely different from places where I have lived. In coastal southern California, where I am now, blight is quite rare, as land values are high and property is always in demand. There are a few scattered blighted buildings in desirable areas; the only explanation I can imagine for this is incompetent property owners. If they don't want to do anything with the property, I wonder why they don't just sell it and rake in the cash. There is a restaurant building with a great view of the lagoon and the ocean which has been rotting away for at least a decade, but the surrounding area is healthy. I can't figure that one out.
It's weird to see the massive areas of urban blight that feature in these videos. Downtown San Bernardino, which has suffered due to bad decisions made decades ago, has blighted areas, but they don't seem to be as expansive as Detroit's blight. An overhead view in Google Maps reveals the situation - the numerous vacant lots indicate that all is not well. Farther east, there is a lot of rural blight around the Salton Sea. It has its own unique character and history, and I think Chris would enjoy it if he ever makes it to this part of the country. Rural blight is a widespread problem throughout the country, but it doesn't tend to get as much attention as urban blight, perhaps because it is spread out and is usually less spectacular.
Vacant lots
Great video, and commentary. To drive the point home, you should consider mentioning that the vacant property one sees as you drive around used to have houses or commercial building on it. I can imagine that during Detroit's heyday vacant land was at a premium. My guess now is that vacant land itself is 50 to 60% of the total. I did not even consider the vacant buildings, which adds to the total. Thanks for the Detroit drive.
A riot can change a whole lot in economy.
I lived through the LA riot after the Rodney King beating, racial tensions became a lot worse AFTER the riot, the economy didn't really change, although its true that we were already in a big recession.
The economy for blacks was even lower after the riots .
We don't need a video to tell us what the problem is and why Detroit is now a burned-out warzone...... and after they finished with Detroit, they moved on to Baltimore, St. Louis, South Central Los Angeles, New Orleans......
And they wonder why we keeping “fleeing”.
'They'?
@@jlane99, 'they'?
We all know who 'they' are...🙄
Coming from someone who doesn’t know what a ghetto is unless they look at videos like this…live in it for years and then tell me the REAL reason the city burned out. Corrupt politicians, shitty officials who only care for the burbs. But you don’t know bout that since you live in the burbs.
So many abandoned houses, it hard to watch, this city needs money investment i think and recovering of fabricating. Thanks for video bro
Such beautiful green streets, so many classic buildings.
Strange how the hoods of Detroit seem nicer than some of the neighborhoods in the largest city near me (Rockford, IL). Maybe it just seems nicer than it really is. BTW, thanks again for your Rockford videos Chris.
Thats because this video concentrated on specific areas that arent as bad as he made them out to be compared to other areas. You have to look at the north east side, Nothwest (Brightmoor) and down by Del Ray to find our top notch hoods
@@ericmccoy5038 I've seen those videos. I guess the vacant lots look better than the eyesores that were there before. What's left in this video wasn't bad and I see many nice vehicles in front of the homes.
it is so eery to see the fields where houses used to be
Dig your stuff, but I'm surprised you didn't include the Grande Ballroom (seen around 21:50) in your tour. Located at 8952 Grand River the erstwhile venue hosted many "rock" acts in the late 60's/early 70's. According to Wikipedia, the building was added to the National Register of Historic Places in December 2018.
I lived on the street near the Grande Ballroom in 1967. I believe it was Belleterre. I remember seeing Mitch Rider and the Detroit Wheels. The riots were scary and the neighborhood was devastated. My husband and I moved to Dearborn Heights right after riots. We lived in an apartment house and unbeknownst to us all the other residents had left. Soldiers yelled to us with bullhorn to turn out our lights because there was a sniper under our window. The reasons for the decline are complex but the riots accelerated the process. We had recently moved to Detroit from NYC and were fine with the neighborhood. People were friendly and welcoming.
So, police arresting people who were commiting crime started the riots? I was 12 years old then, and really did not know what started it all. I understand why people move out of crime infested areas though.
Police knew that it was a blind pig for years and the police were given a cut of the proceeds for years ! It’s like the jails where the guards bring in the drugs and sell them to the inmates!
Would the same thing happen if it happened in a white neighbourhood? Probably not.
@@SwingingCreeper .... Democrats destroy everything they touch
@@SwingingCreeper White people get arrested for committing crimes.
It was a raid on a blind pig,and years of police brutality that sparked the 1967 Rebellion,Donald!
Not having grown up here and as an outsider looking in at this illuminating expertly narrated video it appears Detroit was truly a grand city in its heyday. I was unaware of this growing up in Chicagoland. As I posted in another video I think affordable vocational education that can be changed with the times can make a difference. Being a lifetime learner has become more essential and to me is right up there with safe neighborhoods, clean drinking water etc. Burning things down as a mob is truly destructive but making available training to earn a living would cut the risk of this. We need more wise artistic people like Chris too!
I just found your channel this week and subscribed. Your video tours are first class! When I look at all those once beautiful old houses and now they are left to fall to the ground, it makes me sick. What a shame but that's what happens when cities treat business like piggy banks, over tax, over regulate, and charge for services that no one wants then let crime run rampant. The only thing people can do is leave. We left Chicago in the 1960s for the same reasons.
I can see from here you have a love for your city and state...thanks
Unions and Detroit. Predictable result. Companies head to southern states to escape the ruinous militant unions. And the tax base leaves too.
Great video.
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Shirley Cash was a famous Detroit real estate agent in the 70’s that got very wealthy pitching ’white flight’, creating a panicked herd mindset of ‘don’t get left behind! Sell now!’…..
Not only 1967 riots, few other major factors for this town's down fall. One, foreigner competition came in the 1960's and '70s. Two, greed which came later in the '00s with outsourcing. Three, corrupt politics with their policies and legislations that also killed the factory jobs.
People segregate naturally. Look at any school. People are most comfortable with people who look like them. It's a survival instinct. When we walk into a room of strangers, we will gravitate toward people we look like so it's normal. Once we get to know people, we may find we have more in common with those who do not look like us. For instance, I have some close friends who are a different race than me. But overall people group themselves together.
True
Happens automatically in prison,Back to basic instinct.
Segregation in cities like Detroit didn’t happen naturally. There were housing laws that kept black people out of certain neighborhoods. It’s called redlining
@@tonyhall1421 Redlining was a tool used to determine areas of which to limit investment. Banks wouldn't loan to people deemed at risk of repayment. That can literally happen to anyone until regulations made it so at risk people were given the go ahead for money, how did 2008 work out for you?
@@Amonabus you don’t have to like it but white racism is what keeps cities segregated. Argue with yourself 🤷🏽♂️
For those people who may have wondered. The actual bus that Rosa Parks was writing when she refused to give her seat is now at the Henry Ford Museum.
At mark 21:53 is the Historic Grande Ballroom a Detroit Music Icon MC5 The Who BB king The Chamber Brothers Alice Cooper The Amboy Dukes and many more played there . You should do a Video with all the Rock and roll palaces and Jazz Clubs alot of them are still there in the neighborhoods .
I went to Detroit for the 1st time in 2013, and two of the main abandoned I went to see were the Grande Ballroom and the Eastown Theater (now gone)
@@landhorses I used to attend both places and the Eastown before it became a music venue. Both the Grande and Eastown were hangouts for some heavy duty drug users where some real stupid stuff used to occur.
I was a few years too young to go, but a few of the older guys in the neighborhood went. Historic times, fo sho!
Summary: Businesses wont invest in a neighborhood or city that is driven with crime. Pure and simple. Want your place to succeed, dont do crime "Whether its politicians or residents, just dont"
Those homes in the Boston Edison are are insane. Mansions in the middle of the hood. Worked on a few homes there, always blew my mind how huge n formerly beautiful they were. 1st one I ever worked in had a straight up ballroom in the basement, insane these are all just falling apart
Most have already been re-done or were always occupied. Very hard to find a large house there for less than 500k now. Boston Edison and Atkinson District are very expensive now, especially considering Virginia park and Linwood are still cheap and hood
nice work on video
He who manufactures the goods rules the roost.
its not who votes that matter
but who counts the votes.
Yep remember living through the riots. Amazed how many people never heard of them.
I am suspicious that comments are being "cleaned up" for everyone's perceived benefit. In fact, I am almost certain.
Having seen several videos on abandoned Detroit, curious if any where buildings/houses are ventured into?
There’s videos all over TH-cam of people going inside these buildings, and sometimes houses. It’s not always legal to do that if they haven’t required the right permissions, but plenty of people do it anyway.
@@ChrisHarden Caught, yes, picked up on them, just not seen any in Detroit..
One of my college buddys lived on Boston Blvd. One of the smaller homes but huge by any measure. That area was probably one of the least segregated neighborhoods in Detroit. Many people had a hand in promoting segregation during the last 6 decades. Not the least of which was Coleman A Young. He single-handedly ran off 25% of the tax base and a similar amount of both black and white residents. I lived for a short time in the Cass Corridor. I didn't feel my personal safety was in jeopardy but I never left ANYTHING in my car. This was in the early to mid 70's. I watched it all and totally agree that segregation and attempts to eliminate it are the root causes of Detroit's fall. Love your videos, keep it up.
I'll never understand idiots burning down their own neighborhoods.
Idiots act out with no thought of consequences then blame others.
Used to live on Monica St by fenkell and livernois . Haven't been back in 55 years. Went to Clinton elementary. My sister went to Cooley high school.
One thing that stands out about Detroit: how big the trees are! Don’t park underneath them during the icy winter.
I am amazed that you didn't do a video on Terre haute. Many other youtubers already have but didn't show everything about the city.
Do this same tour at night!