I did not understand they warm the honey to separate the wax, I tried to compare with the process of Sue Bee honey is very similar until the point of heating, they might not show this process in the video(Sue Bee Honey), can be pasteurization. Here in Brazil the process is very natural, organic, but almost 80% of production is exported, mostly to China, to compensate for the poor quality of their product, they mix good honey in the bad to meet the required quality in the rest of the world and then they re-export, including to Brazil all the ridiculously cheap price, it's a joke.
True, they compensate for the poor quality of honey in this way, for you to have an idea, they buy honey at $ 3 dollars, and resell at 1 dollar, the world is in serious trouble with honey and bees, the US, , Is suffering from the lobbying of pesticide and herbicide companies, and the impressive deforestation that has taken place there and continues. Here in Brazil the fight to preserve nature, Atlantic Forest, that borders the Brazilian coast, 80% devasted, and the Amazon, are very strong, but we still have problems, the great advantage is that our bees are the healthiest in the world, because of the vast amount Biome we have. I live in a city called Ubatuba, see in Google maps, it is formed 100% by Atlantic forest, it is a spectacle of beauty by the Brazilian sea. Here we do not have problems of devastation, the people and the environmental police act in an ostensive way I'm reforesting a gigantic area, I was producing cfé and I took 50,000 trees from this plant, and planted all the native ones. We bought an area of 4000m² of virgin Atlantic forest to preserve and produce honey from the Atlantic Forest. It's worth it, because honey is 100% pure and organic, good for honeycomb and good for us humans.
There is a difference between automatic and mechanised. I work with building control systems that make fully automated systems, I have a job coming up with a similar honey extractor, that will have lots of intelligence. Weight of input, variable frequency drives for the spin motors, advanced calculations of when the comb is empty etc etc
Okay but where I live our local guys look like this. So what are we who live in the massive Honey producing areas supposed to do since this is locally sourced honey for us.
there is no wax added. the bees make the wax honey comb and then fill it with the honey. here the frames of honey comb (filled with honey) has a cap (a thin layer of wax that seals the honey in), first thing to do is remove the cap, there is a lot of honey and wax that comes from this step. we do not want to wast it. if you take this honey/wax mixture and melt it, the wax and honey will separate. the honey sinks to the bottom and the wax float to the top
things cant be much more automated.. if you have never seen honey bee frames then you wont know the endless variables that are applied to each individual frame. In this video things were smooth, but problems happen all the time that machines couldnt deal with
The step of loading the extractor right when the operator is rotating the extractor (7:25 to 7:29) seems very dangerous. A hand can get caught and possibly broken if not careful. In some cases the operator rotated the extractor very fast and it seemed the hand was going to be caught (8:04 - 8:08). A simple addition of a motor to slowly rotate the extractor would be safer. I'm thinking one where two buttons have to be pressed simultaneously so operator keeps his hands away from the assembly.
too loud!! Then it takes 10 minutes to push into the round swirly thing. 5:12 adding wax? I hope you guys do not purify the honey too much. Remember the latest report that states, "If it does not contain any pollen then it is not real honey."
Ken Nicholas It's just that it would be so easy to automate. So much of this involves someone pushing something on a rail. Some linear actuators need to be added. My biggest fear is that the world will be overpopulated with poor workers who don't accomplish much.
David Smolinski Go try and extract 120 frames at a time using a hand extractor as opposed to the above method before you start making senseless, unrelated analogies.
Too much heat will definitely destroy the enzymes in the honey. So i suppose some of you folks would not buy honey from the southern states even. Consider the temperature that the supers must get to when it's still on the hives. Quite possibly up to 110 F. Would you call this garbage honey?
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That's a pretty efficient centifuge, but you would have gotten more honey with a decifuge or even a hectofuge.
I did not understand they warm the honey to separate the wax, I tried to compare with the process of Sue Bee honey is very similar until the point of heating, they might not show this process in the video(Sue Bee Honey), can be pasteurization. Here in Brazil the process is very natural, organic, but almost 80% of production is exported, mostly to China, to compensate for the poor quality of their product, they mix good honey in the bad to meet the required quality in the rest of the world and then they re-export, including to Brazil all the ridiculously cheap price, it's a joke.
Wauw realy?
True, they compensate for the poor quality of honey in this way, for you to have an idea, they buy honey at $ 3 dollars, and resell at 1 dollar, the world is in serious trouble with honey and bees, the US, , Is suffering from the lobbying of pesticide and herbicide companies, and the impressive deforestation that has taken place there and continues.
Here in Brazil the fight to preserve nature, Atlantic Forest, that borders the Brazilian coast, 80% devasted, and the Amazon, are very strong, but we still have problems, the great advantage is that our bees are the healthiest in the world, because of the vast amount Biome we have. I live in a city called Ubatuba, see in Google maps, it is formed 100% by Atlantic forest, it is a spectacle of beauty by the Brazilian sea. Here we do not have problems of devastation, the people and the environmental police act in an ostensive way
I'm reforesting a gigantic area, I was producing cfé and I took 50,000 trees from this plant, and planted all the native ones. We bought an area of 4000m² of virgin Atlantic forest to preserve and produce honey from the Atlantic Forest. It's worth it, because honey is 100% pure and organic, good for honeycomb and good for us humans.
There is a difference between automatic and mechanised.
I work with building control systems that make fully automated systems, I have a job coming up with a similar honey extractor, that will have lots of intelligence. Weight of input, variable frequency drives for the spin motors, advanced calculations of when the comb is empty etc etc
Simple, stop buying industrial food and buy from your local guy.
Okay but where I live our local guys look like this. So what are we who live in the massive Honey producing areas supposed to do since this is locally sourced honey for us.
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there is no wax added. the bees make the wax honey comb and then fill it with the honey. here the frames of honey comb (filled with honey) has a cap (a thin layer of wax that seals the honey in), first thing to do is remove the cap, there is a lot of honey and wax that comes from this step. we do not want to wast it. if you take this honey/wax mixture and melt it, the wax and honey will separate. the honey sinks to the bottom and the wax float to the top
Great video, but could you please include more footage of loading and unloading the extractor?
Are those insulated boxes n the beginning of the video? 0:21. The boxes look thicker.
Lol this is from finland actually :D
i dont get it. combs are so close together how can any honey even come out?
LOL! I thought you were adding wax like from candle wax. Interesting video to watch! :-)
hi how much coast this line i whant to by something like this and where i can to bay
That job is sweet and boring.
things cant be much more automated.. if you have never seen honey bee frames then you wont know the endless variables that are applied to each individual frame. In this video things were smooth, but problems happen all the time that machines couldnt deal with
Sir, I will like to know the full process... like from going to the field to get the frames(box) to packaging . Can you please list it out for me.
The step of loading the extractor right when the operator is rotating the extractor (7:25 to 7:29) seems very dangerous. A hand can get caught and possibly broken if not careful. In some cases the operator rotated the extractor very fast and it seemed the hand was going to be caught (8:04 - 8:08). A simple addition of a motor to slowly rotate the extractor would be safer. I'm thinking one where two buttons have to be pressed simultaneously so operator keeps his hands away from the assembly.
too loud!! Then it takes 10 minutes to push into the round swirly thing. 5:12 adding wax? I hope you guys do not purify the honey too much. Remember the latest report that states, "If it does not contain any pollen then it is not real honey."
if that extractor opened while it was running, you would have a sticky situation...
Wow! This is a great inside look at a very streamilined honey processing operation!
Terrible from 5:00 heat pressed honey loosing all nutrients.. not raw.. this is practically like sugar now!!
It's heated between 90-100°F
It heats the honey jus enough to make it all flow easier
@@demontank76 thanks for that
Its a hive of activity in there
heating up honey loses nutritional value
only if its above 145° F, honey may be heated and considered none pasteurized if below 120° F, this is done for the ease of use when filling jars.
heating honey = bad honey
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That's nuts. I love it.
Thank you for the up load
Wow very cool
so where is that guy's gloves and face mask???? that's NOT sanitary!
I like your spelling.
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Why they don't use gloves and mask?
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That's so manually intensive. What a royal waste of time.
How else do you expect to get honey? To uncap frame by frame would take even more time.
Ken Nicholas It's just that it would be so easy to automate. So much of this involves someone pushing something on a rail. Some linear actuators need to be added. My biggest fear is that the world will be overpopulated with poor workers who don't accomplish much.
David Smolinski Go try and extract 120 frames at a time using a hand extractor as opposed to the above method before you start making senseless, unrelated analogies.
David Smolinski Yes. Replace as many jobs with machines as possible.
A lot of interesting comments in here lol.
Too much heat will definitely destroy the enzymes in the honey. So i suppose some of you folks would not buy honey from the southern states even. Consider the temperature that the supers must get to when it's still on the hives. Quite possibly up to 110 F. Would you call this garbage honey?