If this was a first time listen of a song, not ever listening to Nightwish, this could be one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard....What a magnificent voice Floor has....Tuomas=Genius
I think you didn't hear much about this song because it seems to be the most underrated song of the new album... Tuomas says it's probably the one where Floor sings the more touching way ever, it seems to be a very important song to him. One of the best of the whole album for me, I love it !
This one was kind of a "slow burner" for me. The first time I thought "oh, it's a pretty song" and that was it. Didn't pay much attention, I enjoyed more Pan, Tribal or Shoemaker. But as I kept listening the album over and over it became one of my favorites. It's sad and beautiful at the same time, maybe not as "spectacular" as other songs but I really love it.
Same except that it hit me sreight after first listen, I was crying and really did not comprehend why but after reading the lyrics I understood why it moved me so much. And the more I have listened it the more I love it. It is my fav from the album now.
@@eminabrestovac Yep, the dinosaurs ruled and kept all mammalian life suppressed for many more millions of years than we have ever had; it was only a catastrophic meteoric impact that took them all out and allowed mammals to thrive and evolve into "us".
This song has become my fav from the album. It moved me into tears at once and after reading the lyrics and then seeing the vid came even better. Very sad yet beautiful song, it doesnt need anything more than it has. Crying everytime I hear it. ❤️
At first I wasn’t crazy about this song because it doesn’t seem to have a big climax, but the more I listen to it the more I think it’s one of the best lyrical works Tuomas has ever done.
In this song Floor sings as if she is looking back from a far future to the beginning of the earth, the beginning of the first life on the planet and the evolution till now including the appearence of 'Sapiens' and what our species has done to nature. The lyrics go very deep and can be seen as a warning to mankind if we don't change our behaviour. That's what Tuomas probably wanted to intend with this song. All the songs on this album are fitting perfect together in correlation to the title of it: Human :||: Nature. There are three different meanings with the title. The relation between humans and nature and the circle of life (e.g. Harvest) on the one side and the impact of humans to the nature (like in this song) on the other side. The third aspect is about the human nature itself and the curiosity in exploring the new and the unknown (Shoemaker e.g.). The instrumental tracks on this album are mostly an expression of pure Nature.
As a researcher dealing with some stuff mentioned in the song, I cry everytime I listen to the song, especially if I see the official video with it. Love your videos! I disagree in considering this a "political" song sensu stricto, because defending environment and preserve biodiversity is a moral and ethical duty we owe to the World. Unfortunately, the govs see this as something that might disrupt the economical future of their power, hence the "political" assignment. But, right now in this exact historical moment, we have a physical proof of what does it mean to exacerbate our relationship with the natural world, that is the pandemic.
Deadly diseases were a thing long before heavy industrialization of humanity. I guess the Black Death was also a physical proof of _"what does it mean to exacerbate our relationship with the natural world"_
@@ToveriJuri That one (and many others) was proof of what it was to live in anti-hygienic conditions... Still something to think about. This new one is more due to that exacerbated relation (like, one proven cause of former outbreaks, when bats lose their natural habitats because of oil palms plantations in South-East Asia, and come to live in farms, where pigs get infected by eating the bats' feces - because they are pigs! - while humans feast on those pigs, voila...), and there are many examples where we in our strife for efficient production push things too far.
@@bigg2988 While I agree with the general message, there is a flip-side too. We are so overprotected, that a virus like now meets very little resistance. As a kid I used to play a lot outside. Dirty hands, falling, eating sand, grass, whatever. It grows your resistance, your inner ability to fight diseases. What do kids now? Computergames, play in clean environments. They don't 'eat' sand the way we did. Hygienic conditions, in being too hygienic, weaken us.
This is "remembrance of Earth's past", as apparently it's sung from the post-human point of view, a message from the future: "We were there and we will remember mankind, our kin, ages ago." "We write this in a tongue you will understand." Floor brought that up during their promotional media tour. If Tuomas were familiar with that trilogy, I could almost see it being a perfect soundtrack for "Death's End". And it seems to complete the thought of Noise, especially its music video: if you don't tune out the noise and do something, you''ll end up in a funeral procession for the mankind...
This is for me one of the most underrated but yet most beautiful songs of the whole album! Floor's vocals are so touching and she manages to transmit the message of the song in a very intense way. Very good reaction also from you, dear Elvann, always a pleasure to hear your precise comments and analysis! Can't wait for the next:-)
I truly love this song, its both melancholy and hopeful at the same time. The idea that something will survive us and remember the human race thousands of years later.
I'm loving the message and the perspective that its a message from the future and i guess they didnt want drown or hide the message behind a massive sound. I know quite a few Gojira fans that had no idea how political their lyrics was since they just enjoyed the music without actually hearing the lyrics but with this song its almost impossible not to hear the lyrics even if it can take a few listens before you get them
well we are at a point where softly talking doesnt seem to work an all u get is retarded smirks like when Trump was scoffing at thatr summit about environment....
@@galadballcrusher8182 excactly why i love it so much cause everyone need to stand up to idiots like Trump and similar leaders thats way to common today before its to late to do anything about it
If anyone listening to this opposes the message, they are on the wrong side of history. It's very sad that caring for life on this planet is now considered "political".
I agree; I'm not sure how anyone can actually think that letting endangered species suffer/die is a good thing?!?! (unless it's a toxic masculinity thing, and they're all like "Man strong, animal weak, man kill animal, man win!" Madness...)
No such thing as "on the wrong side of history". There's nothing wrong with stewardship of the planet and animals, but I find issue when it's used as a political message as if someone thinks the average human is really going to be able or capable of stopping a species from going extinct. It comes across as preachy and goading when the illicit assumption is that "Oh, if humans didn't exist, the world would be so much better" or "Since we exist, we should help stop animals from going extinct", as if we really have that power, which we don't. Species have been going extinct since the dawn of time long before we got here. That's just the nature of things. I don't litter because it "harms Mother Earth", but because I should be considerate of other humans and animals who live on the planet. The planet isn't dying or going anywhere before it is supposed to, in my view. Nothing we do or don't do is going to cause it to die off any sooner or later. The other issue I have is that Tuomas is obviously very open with his anti-religion stance, which comes off as presumptuous and arrogant. The problem with denying the existence of God means that objective moral values and duties no longer exist. Let me explain further in a syllogism: Premise 1: If God does not exist, then objective moral values and duties do not exist. Premise 2: Objective moral values and duties do exist. Conclusion: Therefore, God exists. God is the standard for objective morality. If He did not exist, we would have no way to determine what is objectively good and bad. You can know right from wrong and deny there's a God (epistemology), but there would be no right and wrong to know unless God existed (ontology). This is philosophy 101 and so when Tuomas or anyone decides that we should care for the Earth and its inhabitants, both human and animal, but then on the same album talks so negatively of people who practice a faith like it's some kind of disgusting and primitive tribal hive mind, it is inconsistent and haughty. I find it outlandishly bizarre to hold to the notion that animals and humans are somehow equal. We aren't. Humans are superior to animals in a variety of ways. This does not mean we should mistreat animals, but if it were a life or death situation, you would never choose an animal's survival over your own or another human's. The gist of this entire thing is that I find it inconsistent for Tuomas (or any non-believer) to suggest a morality without God because at that point, there is no way to justify WHY something is good or bad. Why is it good to save animals? Who said? You? Then that's just your opinion against an animal torturer's opinion. If there is no objective grounding for morality, then everything is relative - but we all know that's rubbish and don't live that way.
@@dandyprime5338 Tuomas does seem to hate organised religion. However, I don't agree with either of your premises above, and don't believe there is such thing as 'absolute' right and wrong. Where is this universally-accepted definition of 'morality' defined? If it exists, why do different people/societies/religions/organisations have different concepts of right and wrong? Tuomas has his own morality (as we all do), which comes across in his songs, but he's just speaking for himself, not all of humanity.
@@gusharris-reid3419 That's my issue with a lot of this and the last album. It just attacks an entire group of people and then espouses that their worldview makes them bad or evil. You never judge a worldview or faith based on its abuse, you judge it by its proper use - and when I say "proper use", I don't mean importing your own view of what you think is "proper use" into the faith, but taking the time to diligently learn and study it with the intention to know how it works and what is true and right about it and what is false and wrong about it. You cannot attack someone for their faith by importing your own ideas of what their faith or belief system is as if they subscribe to your viewpoint(s). Are you absolutely sure that there is no absolute right and wrong? If there are no absolutes and everything is relative, then how can we get upset at any moral evil in the world? If rape or murder are not absolutely wrong and evil, that would imply that in some cases they would be morally good. I cannot think of any situation where rape or murder (murder being the premeditated killing of another human being with malice and intent) are morally good. When I say "objective", I mean "binding to all people, of all cultures, in all places, at all times, regardless of feelings or opinions on the matter". There are laws that transcend humanity. These laws must come from a Moral Lawgiver; i.e., God. You're confusing epistemology with ontology. People know right and wrong because those concepts are written on our hearts by God (i.e., He gives us the capacity to understand morality on a basic level through our conscience). How we know something is epistemology. Ontology is the study of being and WHY things are the way they are in the first place. The reason different peoples and cultures view morality in various ways is because the WAY they view it changes over time, but truth and morality do not change themselves. Rape will always be evil and wrong, regardless if a culture or people think it is morally okay. That's the point I'm getting at here. Our perceptions may change, but those perceptions do not change reality or alter facts and truth.
Beautiful song! It makes feel guilty, sad, but at the same time conscious of what we are, where we heading to and what we are doing to ourself and to our environment. So touching 😍 I love Floor's voice in this track, she transmits a lot with her singing.
There's not so much talk about this (and you were speechless too). It's a little too simple for some, I think. Floor's voice there is on her most touching mode. But basically it is a quite straightforward hymn about extinct of species whose company also Sapien will end if some changes will not come. Unfortunately next track can left you speechless too but totally different reasons. I can't wait to see! And the album has now topped Finnish charts! And finally. French Canadian Franciscan monk Guylain Prince (former drummer) is now doing quite good Nightwish analyses. How about that?
@@evergrey4life955 to say "the worst" you already put it as a bad thing. However I understand that we all have different opinion and taste and that is ok.
In the "AD Astra" video you will find out more about that organization. They've partnered with "World Land Trust" to promote them and help raise funds. At the end of that video there's a link.
This is not their only song that has a hint of saving the environment and other species. Take a good listen to The Greatest Show On Earth. It's about humankind responsibility to shepard the Earth. There is a passage: "We are here to care for the garden The wonder of birth Of every form most beautiful Every form most beautiful"
As far as activism that you mentioned, they did this with the "single" for Ad Astra. th-cam.com/video/VshpPBBehxE/w-d-xo.html They stated in this video that they were partnering with World Land Trust. Might be worth you giving it a viewing. Its beautifully done video (and the music isn't bad either).
In my opinion, Human II Nature is the most important and best album of Nightwish.Although I prefer live concerts and the videos of them, but with this album I think the lyric videos are in a class of their own.
The was the first song compossed after "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" album. And if you think about it, this song Is the next era of the Earth, an era without humans "we are singers Of the gone"
Darling, they have been using music to educate and spread science since Endless Forms most Beautiful. Carl Sagan, Greatest Show on Earth, Shudder before the Beautiful are but three of their best-written msucial pieces that talk about the universe, how it came to be and how evolution shaped the Earth.
Hi Elvann this isn't my favorite song off the Album but I still like alot because of the message behind it, that we should take more care of nature a pretty sad song to be honest. I love your reactions.
🤘🤘❤️🤘🤘 As with all of the songs on here another fantastic one!!! I love watching how you get into the music Elvann, and even feel out on the vocals!!! It's fun!!! 😊❤️🤘🤘
This is definitely a message song. The music and melodies were only done to communicate the message. We all know Floor and Tuomas are very big animal and nature lovers. Great analysis Elvann. Be well.
I feel like this is perhaps the most important song for me from the entire album. Maybe it's not my absolute favourite (I think Shoemaker and Pan share that spot) but it's the most impactful, definitely. I'm a biologist, I deal with the themes of this song and that only serves to make this even more important to me. I absolutely love this song, the lyrics are moving and beautiful and I'm sad that caring and loving the planet and wanting to protect it is nowadays political. It should be common sense, we are not here without nature, we cannot survive without the planet or nature so we should do our part in protecting what we depend on to live.
Yes i like it, it surely makes you think and listening ... together with the images ... it is a story which is brilliant made As lyrics and music are great when you start to think and feel about it ... as that means it is an emotional proces ...
Somehow I feel, that this is not that political. I feel this is “just” a future species looking back in the evolution on Earth and seeing human as part of that history. “Endangered” with the animals is just a reference to almost (99,9%) everything on Earth getting eventually extinct. “We are, we were, and will not be.” Absolutely beautiful song.
For this song, Tuomas said it was the best, most touching performance Floor has done, so I think you picked up Floor's care and attention to the feeling she was evoking.
Hi from corona germany.I like Nightwish,Epica,Evanescence usw. But as a teenager long ago I felt in love with Rinoa from Final Fantasy 8 (The dance scene is epic) I like to play RPG`s.That`s the point I love " Eyes on me" from Faye Wong (FF8).Please can you make an Elvann version from that song.If you have time.I like your channal and music.Stay at home,stay healthy.
This song makes me proud I studied the natural world. Animal management with the major of animal & society. It's like the bridge between humans and the natural world. My major focusses on education, communication and policies :3 I hope that such a respected band as Nightwish, which is usually listend to by people who seek deeper things/think deeper, informs people in a more playful and artistic way. Not too preachie/pushy :)
As I said I am not fan of this album (very much not), but it has two really good things: 1. operatic piece on Shoemaker 2. this song and Floor's singing first at all. I am impressed how she sings here. This song is my favourite in all album. It remains us what Nightwish was. It is not politic, it is facts :) It is a huge message done in wonderful way. The last so nice message about extinction of animals species was 1995 Grave Diggers song Dolphin's cry. These 2 things is the reasons why I still thnking maybe to buy this album.
Great video reaction realy enjoyed your thoughts. This song is very sombre in tone love floor's singing and the lyrics are very throght provoking. Shall definitely subscribe to your channel
With the recent news of a band member resigning, it's even more poignant. For me this track is possibly one of the most emotive ever, especially the album's release at the start of "The interesting times". The combination of Floor's simple, but beautifully clear vocals, and little else at the start immediately sends goosebumps through even the hardened fan... I, personally was in tears. The clues really in the title, "Procession", as a listener, you expect it to progress, and change. It does, but those changes are subtle, non-repetitive and also, somewhat surprises us by ending before it progresses too much. And that's exactly where some might perhaps find criticism with the track, they might feel it lacks a crescendo. But that's the point, things end before WE want them to.... but what WE want isn't necessarily what's best. Hey, I'd like the track to last forever... but then again, if it did I'd never hear anything new...or get to hear that beautiful start again.
thanx reaction all the nightwish songs u are already do it. i remember there was a killer song for tarja turunen with solo album what is awesome.i copy paste that song there.Tarja "Never Enough" Official Lyric Video - from "Colours In The Dark" i nigh wish u see this when u have time. thanx finland salute you :)
The first Nightwish song clearly taking an activist stance? Oh dear... you DID miss their third video release from a month ago. The song is "Ad Astra" and I haven't seen a single soul that wasn't moved to tears. THAT music video is the most beautiful promo video for World Land Trust and the now official Nightwish partnership. The 'lyrics' are by Carl Sagan, another great human being that shaped our understanding of the world and the universe.
To me this is one of my favourite songs on the album. It has no real chorus, but I don't miss it at all!! Some Dutch words in the background in the video, as Floor is Dutch, coincidence?? Who knows. Those Dutch words are ' Het onstaan der soorten'. In english: ' the Origin of the Species' Nice review of a very pretty song!👍
Hi! This isn't relevant to the reaction itself, but your cover of Sleeping Sun has appeared in one of my Daily Mix(es) on Spotify and it is always a pleasure to hear when it does pop up! :D Just thought I'd pass that on.
It seems to be looking back at Earth, from the point of view of the last humans. I don't think what we're going through is an extinction event, but it is a timely warning that our existence is as fragile as those animals whose habitats we have destroyed, and who are facing extinction as a result. We need to take stock of who we want to be in the future.
This song is a swan song for humanity and even for all life on earth, sung by entities of the future. I would not call it "pretty" or "cool". It´s more like a depressing forecast of what will happen. This song, I think, is one of the most truthfull yet disturbing ones I ever heard.
Love the song, love the review, but 2:15 seconds in the song when Troy is playing the pipes, do you hear some feedback or is it just me? Also your song is very nice!!
I speak english a little,you know NIGHTWISH,MY PREFER BLOOD, FANTOM OF OPERA,THE ISLANDER, BYEBYE BEAUTIFUL,I WISH IN A ANGEL,SORRY FOR THE PROBLEM WITH WRITE FOR DISCU6
This song is the one most reactors stay away from. It clearly has a strong message to humankind. Staying away from it feels like being political correct and not speaking out how you really feel. That makes me sad. Musically it is stunning, creating a song without a chorus.
yes, beautiful lyrics and as always Floors voice amazing, but... the tone of the first verse goes on and on and on .... it grows slow on me but very slow...is it because there is no real chorus? i dont know.
And how is it, with your professed love of all thins *'Fantasy'* you haven't reacted to anything from *RUSH* ?? There are literally, multiple albums of songs, that fit your criteria perfectly.
I love the song! Thank you for doing this. First things first: There's nothing "political" here. It's a wrong word to use. Nightwish naturally raises the awareness with the songs especially from this album. It would be quite odd if they weren't doing this. You might want to check out the "NIGHTWISH - 'Ad Astra' - [World Land Trust Partnership] (OFFICIAL VIDEO)". Here's the link: th-cam.com/video/VshpPBBehxE/w-d-xo.html You haven't done a reaction video of it before and it seems that you haven't seen it. I understand that you chose the word "political" though. It's hard to choose the words that perfectly describe things. English isn't my native language so I can really relate to that. Anyway, I really like your videos. Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience with us.
I know 🤔 I've seen people online complain and I couldn't really understand where they were coming from, so I just assumed I didn't fully understand something....
Hi Elvann, always appreciate your perspectives on music, and especially Nightwish! For me, this song is both musically and vocally, very beautiful!! I am not however, such a fan of the repetitious nature of the verses, and really found the Endangered Species adverts in the middle section to be disruptive to the flow of the song, although not disagreeing with the message! Quite an interesting perspective, having been written from the point of view of a future Earth inhabitant, recounting the history of life on earth....even down to being in a language we can understand...aahhh, Tuomas's writing skills! :-) Keep up the good work!
Well we won't have the "endangered" adverts when listening to the disc, so the interlude probably will not come off distracting (listened with headphones on in the dark might have quite the meditative effect...). Overall the song is a tender counterpart to the "We were here!" ending to the last album... there's not only elation to be felt at us being here. So this song resonates with me on the emotional level.
If you like ‘songs with a meaning’ check out Floors song for WarChild (Dutch charity for support of children with war trauma worldwide): th-cam.com/video/e6-6NVsbg6U/w-d-xo.html. Take care you show the English lyrics to grasp what she sings
I don't this song is activistic or political. The album is called Human Nature, and this song just throw in our faces the cruel side of the human nature, especially when it comes to coexisting with other species. I don't think Tuomas is trying to convince/alert anyone of preservation of something like that. He said something similar about Noise, that it's not a tech criticism, and I Procession is very similar in that aspect.
Are you ok sweetie? There were songs about the fall of the Berlin wall about the cold war ...great songs. What are you talking about songs not being political? Why not?
Probably my least favorite on the record, though of course Floor's singing is beautiful and the composition is always top notch. It just lacks the hook for me to seek this one out. It's not a fun song, or one that invokes strong emotion like Poet. I'm also not a proponent of artists using their platform for expressing political beliefs as that often tends to turn people off as much as it energizes others. It's a limiting factor, in my view. This message - preservation of the natural world - is not extremely controversial though, so long as they don't start advocating for human regression. Seems to me, based on an interview with Tuomas that he's not saying that, however. Seems like he is saying that in his view, we can progress, technologically as well as in overall numbers, and still not destroy the natural world. I tend to agree. We don't need to retreat to an 18th century lifestyle to take care of the planet. I do hope their future writing and performing is not politically motivated, though. I think they can still be the great live performers of outstanding symphonic metal without alienating half of their audience, and support whatever causes they feel appropriate for them using their fame, off stage.
Many of the most powerful songs are political - Blowin' In The Wind, What's Going On?, Gimme Shelter, Keep On Rockin' In The Free World, Born In The USA...
@@ChrisPage68 Yeah, though power is subjective. Most of those are borne of a particular era. Most I'm not a fan of. I just want to be entertained, not preached to or asked to take a particular stand on a particular issue. Just a personal opinion, but it's not what *I'm* looking for in music.
I understand the message of the song, but musically it's not my favourite. It's too repetitive and boring and I don't think it will be remembered in the future as one of the best Nightwish songs. Thank you for your reaction :)
Well it is what it is intended to be... a Procession - from the birth of life to its extinction. With any procession, there is the monotone element. Overall, this builds nicely, and I was expecting it to just maybe reach a full climax at the end. But I can totally see that such an issue was decided against - for it would somewhat clash with the poignant lyrics. Yes, not the awesomeness-at-first-listen that, e. g., "Dead Boy's Poem" is, but a different kind of a "ballad". It works emotionally and will be remembered for being so distinct.
Generally, I despise politics in music. Being pro-earth shouldn't fall under politics at all. Sadly, that's unavoidable today. I'd consider myself an eco-fascist. Environmentalism can span the entire traditional right-left political spectrum, but fits best with third-positionism.
@@ChrisPage68 You're thinking of "right-wing" in capitalist conservative terms then. The right wing encompasses much more that we aren't allowed to talk about. www.counter-currents.com/2018/04/robert-stark-interviews-greg-johnson-on-eco-fascism-2
If this was a first time listen of a song, not ever listening to Nightwish, this could be one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard....What a magnificent voice Floor has....Tuomas=Genius
I think you didn't hear much about this song because it seems to be the most underrated song of the new album...
Tuomas says it's probably the one where Floor sings the more touching way ever, it seems to be a very important song to him.
One of the best of the whole album for me, I love it !
This one was kind of a "slow burner" for me. The first time I thought "oh, it's a pretty song" and that was it. Didn't pay much attention, I enjoyed more Pan, Tribal or Shoemaker. But as I kept listening the album over and over it became one of my favorites. It's sad and beautiful at the same time, maybe not as "spectacular" as other songs but I really love it.
Same :D
Exactly my experience..
Same except that it hit me sreight after first listen, I was crying and really did not comprehend why but after reading the lyrics I understood why it moved me so much. And the more I have listened it the more I love it. It is my fav from the album now.
Same here. Now I think this is one of the most spectacular compositions in their catalog.
This was the first song Tuomas wrote for the album, for "World Land Trust".
"After all we should've never appeared" Well that is heavy.
and true :(
@@eminabrestovac Yep, the dinosaurs ruled and kept all mammalian life suppressed for many more millions of years than we have ever had; it was only a catastrophic meteoric impact that took them all out and allowed mammals to thrive and evolve into "us".
True that... Humans should never have apperead to this planet
That sentence Is so heavy, because is almost imposible to think it's true.
This song has become my fav from the album. It moved me into tears at once and after reading the lyrics and then seeing the vid came even better. Very sad yet beautiful song, it doesnt need anything more than it has. Crying everytime I hear it. ❤️
This album it's like a wake up call for mankind, wasn't expecting this from the band but I love it, awesome work..
At first I wasn’t crazy about this song because it doesn’t seem to have a big climax, but the more I listen to it the more I think it’s one of the best lyrical works Tuomas has ever done.
In this song Floor sings as if she is looking back from a far future to the beginning of the earth, the beginning of the first life on the planet and the evolution till now including the appearence of 'Sapiens' and what our species has done to nature.
The lyrics go very deep and can be seen as a warning to mankind if we don't change our behaviour. That's what Tuomas probably wanted to intend with this song.
All the songs on this album are fitting perfect together in correlation to the title of it: Human :||: Nature. There are three different meanings with the title. The relation between humans and nature and the circle of life (e.g. Harvest) on the one side and the impact of humans to the nature (like in this song) on the other side. The third aspect is about the human nature itself and the curiosity in exploring the new and the unknown (Shoemaker e.g.).
The instrumental tracks on this album are mostly an expression of pure Nature.
As a researcher dealing with some stuff mentioned in the song, I cry everytime I listen to the song, especially if I see the official video with it. Love your videos!
I disagree in considering this a "political" song sensu stricto, because defending environment and preserve biodiversity is a moral and ethical duty we owe to the World. Unfortunately, the govs see this as something that might disrupt the economical future of their power, hence the "political" assignment. But, right now in this exact historical moment, we have a physical proof of what does it mean to exacerbate our relationship with the natural world, that is the pandemic.
Paleofolk Wisely put. Ty.
well said! 🙌🏻
Deadly diseases were a thing long before heavy industrialization of humanity. I guess the Black Death was also a physical proof of _"what does it mean to exacerbate our relationship with the natural world"_
@@ToveriJuri That one (and many others) was proof of what it was to live in anti-hygienic conditions... Still something to think about. This new one is more due to that exacerbated relation (like, one proven cause of former outbreaks, when bats lose their natural habitats because of oil palms plantations in South-East Asia, and come to live in farms, where pigs get infected by eating the bats' feces - because they are pigs! - while humans feast on those pigs, voila...), and there are many examples where we in our strife for efficient production push things too far.
@@bigg2988 While I agree with the general message, there is a flip-side too.
We are so overprotected, that a virus like now meets very little resistance.
As a kid I used to play a lot outside. Dirty hands, falling, eating sand, grass, whatever.
It grows your resistance, your inner ability to fight diseases.
What do kids now? Computergames, play in clean environments. They don't 'eat' sand the way we did.
Hygienic conditions, in being too hygienic, weaken us.
This is "remembrance of Earth's past", as apparently it's sung from the post-human point of view, a message from the future: "We were there and we will remember mankind, our kin, ages ago."
"We write this in a tongue you will understand." Floor brought that up during their promotional media tour. If Tuomas were familiar with that trilogy, I could almost see it being a perfect soundtrack for "Death's End". And it seems to complete the thought of Noise, especially its music video: if you don't tune out the noise and do something, you''ll end up in a funeral procession for the mankind...
That's the reason Of the name
This is for me one of the most underrated but yet most beautiful songs of the whole album! Floor's vocals are so touching and she manages to transmit the message of the song in a very intense way. Very good reaction also from you, dear Elvann, always a pleasure to hear your precise comments and analysis! Can't wait for the next:-)
I truly love this song, its both melancholy and hopeful at the same time. The idea that something will survive us and remember the human race thousands of years later.
I *love* this, might even be my favourite of the album. Slow burn and gorgeous vocals. Floor is the perfect teller of Tuomas’s stories I think 👍
one of my favorite songs on the album .. could listen to Floor's voice forever....
for me this is the best song of the new album
I'm loving the message and the perspective that its a message from the future and i guess they didnt want drown or hide the message behind a massive sound. I know quite a few Gojira fans that had no idea how political their lyrics was since they just enjoyed the music without actually hearing the lyrics but with this song its almost impossible not to hear the lyrics even if it can take a few listens before you get them
well we are at a point where softly talking doesnt seem to work an all u get is retarded smirks like when Trump was scoffing at thatr summit about environment....
@@galadballcrusher8182 excactly why i love it so much cause everyone need to stand up to idiots like Trump and similar leaders thats way to common today before its to late to do anything about it
If anyone listening to this opposes the message, they are on the wrong side of history. It's very sad that caring for life on this planet is now considered "political".
I agree; I'm not sure how anyone can actually think that letting endangered species suffer/die is a good thing?!?! (unless it's a toxic masculinity thing, and they're all like "Man strong, animal weak, man kill animal, man win!" Madness...)
No such thing as "on the wrong side of history".
There's nothing wrong with stewardship of the planet and animals, but I find issue when it's used as a political message as if someone thinks the average human is really going to be able or capable of stopping a species from going extinct. It comes across as preachy and goading when the illicit assumption is that "Oh, if humans didn't exist, the world would be so much better" or "Since we exist, we should help stop animals from going extinct", as if we really have that power, which we don't. Species have been going extinct since the dawn of time long before we got here. That's just the nature of things. I don't litter because it "harms Mother Earth", but because I should be considerate of other humans and animals who live on the planet. The planet isn't dying or going anywhere before it is supposed to, in my view. Nothing we do or don't do is going to cause it to die off any sooner or later.
The other issue I have is that Tuomas is obviously very open with his anti-religion stance, which comes off as presumptuous and arrogant. The problem with denying the existence of God means that objective moral values and duties no longer exist. Let me explain further in a syllogism:
Premise 1: If God does not exist, then objective moral values and duties do not exist.
Premise 2: Objective moral values and duties do exist.
Conclusion: Therefore, God exists.
God is the standard for objective morality. If He did not exist, we would have no way to determine what is objectively good and bad. You can know right from wrong and deny there's a God (epistemology), but there would be no right and wrong to know unless God existed (ontology). This is philosophy 101 and so when Tuomas or anyone decides that we should care for the Earth and its inhabitants, both human and animal, but then on the same album talks so negatively of people who practice a faith like it's some kind of disgusting and primitive tribal hive mind, it is inconsistent and haughty. I find it outlandishly bizarre to hold to the notion that animals and humans are somehow equal. We aren't. Humans are superior to animals in a variety of ways. This does not mean we should mistreat animals, but if it were a life or death situation, you would never choose an animal's survival over your own or another human's.
The gist of this entire thing is that I find it inconsistent for Tuomas (or any non-believer) to suggest a morality without God because at that point, there is no way to justify WHY something is good or bad. Why is it good to save animals? Who said? You? Then that's just your opinion against an animal torturer's opinion. If there is no objective grounding for morality, then everything is relative - but we all know that's rubbish and don't live that way.
@@gusharris-reid3419 Sadly humans forgot that they are still animals too.
@@dandyprime5338 Tuomas does seem to hate organised religion. However, I don't agree with either of your premises above, and don't believe there is such thing as 'absolute' right and wrong. Where is this universally-accepted definition of 'morality' defined? If it exists, why do different people/societies/religions/organisations have different concepts of right and wrong?
Tuomas has his own morality (as we all do), which comes across in his songs, but he's just speaking for himself, not all of humanity.
@@gusharris-reid3419 That's my issue with a lot of this and the last album. It just attacks an entire group of people and then espouses that their worldview makes them bad or evil. You never judge a worldview or faith based on its abuse, you judge it by its proper use - and when I say "proper use", I don't mean importing your own view of what you think is "proper use" into the faith, but taking the time to diligently learn and study it with the intention to know how it works and what is true and right about it and what is false and wrong about it. You cannot attack someone for their faith by importing your own ideas of what their faith or belief system is as if they subscribe to your viewpoint(s).
Are you absolutely sure that there is no absolute right and wrong? If there are no absolutes and everything is relative, then how can we get upset at any moral evil in the world? If rape or murder are not absolutely wrong and evil, that would imply that in some cases they would be morally good. I cannot think of any situation where rape or murder (murder being the premeditated killing of another human being with malice and intent) are morally good. When I say "objective", I mean "binding to all people, of all cultures, in all places, at all times, regardless of feelings or opinions on the matter". There are laws that transcend humanity. These laws must come from a Moral Lawgiver; i.e., God.
You're confusing epistemology with ontology. People know right and wrong because those concepts are written on our hearts by God (i.e., He gives us the capacity to understand morality on a basic level through our conscience). How we know something is epistemology. Ontology is the study of being and WHY things are the way they are in the first place.
The reason different peoples and cultures view morality in various ways is because the WAY they view it changes over time, but truth and morality do not change themselves. Rape will always be evil and wrong, regardless if a culture or people think it is morally okay. That's the point I'm getting at here. Our perceptions may change, but those perceptions do not change reality or alter facts and truth.
Beautiful song! It makes feel guilty, sad, but at the same time conscious of what we are, where we heading to and what we are doing to ourself and to our environment.
So touching 😍 I love Floor's voice in this track, she transmits a lot with her singing.
There's not so much talk about this (and you were speechless too). It's a little too simple for some, I think. Floor's voice there is on her most touching mode. But basically it is a quite straightforward hymn about extinct of species whose company also Sapien will end if some changes will not come. Unfortunately next track can left you speechless too but totally different reasons. I can't wait to see! And the album has now topped Finnish charts! And finally. French Canadian Franciscan monk Guylain Prince (former drummer) is now doing quite good Nightwish analyses. How about that?
There are no words strong enough to describe this masterpiece.
devotion4music Except that it's probably the worst track which doesn't mean it's bad. All others are just better.
@@evergrey4life955 to say "the worst" you already put it as a bad thing.
However I understand that we all have different opinion and taste and that is ok.
@@evergrey4life955 That's ok.. i think it's one of the best songs of the new album.
Let's just say for me it's the least good
In the "AD Astra" video you will find out more about that organization. They've partnered with "World Land Trust" to promote them and help raise funds. At the end of that video there's a link.
This is not their only song that has a hint of saving the environment and other species. Take a good listen to The Greatest Show On Earth. It's about humankind responsibility to shepard the Earth. There is a passage:
"We are here to care for the garden
The wonder of birth
Of every form most beautiful
Every form most beautiful"
If we were here to care for the garden, we really failed to do the job, in fact, we have been doing quiet the oppisite...
As far as activism that you mentioned, they did this with the "single" for Ad Astra. th-cam.com/video/VshpPBBehxE/w-d-xo.html
They stated in this video that they were partnering with World Land Trust.
Might be worth you giving it a viewing. Its beautifully done video (and the music isn't bad either).
In my opinion, Human II Nature is the most important and best album of Nightwish.Although I prefer live concerts and the videos of them, but with this album I think the lyric videos are in a class of their own.
The was the first song compossed after "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" album. And if you think about it, this song Is the next era of the Earth, an era without humans "we are singers Of the gone"
"We will remember all the suffering"
"We wrote this in a tongue you will understand"
Hallo Elvann, First time hearing, i think
Mmh
2. Ooh
3. YES
4, i love the song
Darling, they have been using music to educate and spread science since Endless Forms most Beautiful. Carl Sagan, Greatest Show on Earth, Shudder before the Beautiful are but three of their best-written msucial pieces that talk about the universe, how it came to be and how evolution shaped the Earth.
Hi Elvann this isn't my favorite song off the Album but I still like alot because of the message behind it, that we should take more care of nature a pretty sad song to be honest. I love your reactions.
This is my favourite song on the album.
Thank you for your reaction as always. 😃👏🏻
🤘🤘❤️🤘🤘 As with all of the songs on here another fantastic one!!! I love watching how you get into the music Elvann, and even feel out on the vocals!!! It's fun!!! 😊❤️🤘🤘
This is definitely a message song. The music and melodies were only done to communicate the message. We all know Floor and Tuomas are very big animal and nature lovers. Great analysis Elvann. Be well.
I feel like this is perhaps the most important song for me from the entire album. Maybe it's not my absolute favourite (I think Shoemaker and Pan share that spot) but it's the most impactful, definitely. I'm a biologist, I deal with the themes of this song and that only serves to make this even more important to me. I absolutely love this song, the lyrics are moving and beautiful and I'm sad that caring and loving the planet and wanting to protect it is nowadays political. It should be common sense, we are not here without nature, we cannot survive without the planet or nature so we should do our part in protecting what we depend on to live.
Yes i like it, it surely makes you think and listening ... together with the images ... it is a story which is brilliant made As lyrics and music are great when you start to think and feel about it ... as that means it is an emotional proces ...
Somehow I feel, that this is not that political. I feel this is “just” a future species looking back in the evolution on Earth and seeing human as part of that history. “Endangered” with the animals is just a reference to almost (99,9%) everything on Earth getting eventually extinct. “We are, we were, and will not be.” Absolutely beautiful song.
It's such an emotional song for me, can't listen to it without crying...
For this song, Tuomas said it was the best, most touching performance Floor has done, so I think you picked up Floor's care and attention to the feeling she was evoking.
In the end I hear the message that when we're gone as a species what we did is documented for future dominant species
Yes, evolution goes on, hence the song title "procession".
Nothing political about caring for the planet. But if you're surprised by it in this video, you'll be very surprised by 'Ad Astra' ;)
Hi from corona germany.I like Nightwish,Epica,Evanescence usw. But as a teenager long ago I felt in love with Rinoa from Final Fantasy 8 (The dance scene is epic) I like to play RPG`s.That`s the point I love " Eyes on me" from Faye Wong (FF8).Please can you make an Elvann version from that song.If you have time.I like your channal and music.Stay at home,stay healthy.
My favorite song, i love it.
This song makes me proud I studied the natural world. Animal management with the major of animal & society. It's like the bridge between humans and the natural world. My major focusses on education, communication and policies :3 I hope that such a respected band as Nightwish, which is usually listend to by people who seek deeper things/think deeper, informs people in a more playful and artistic way. Not too preachie/pushy :)
As I said I am not fan of this album (very much not), but it has two really good things: 1. operatic piece on Shoemaker 2. this song and Floor's singing first at all. I am impressed how she sings here. This song is my favourite in all album. It remains us what Nightwish was. It is not politic, it is facts :) It is a huge message done in wonderful way. The last so nice message about extinction of animals species was 1995 Grave Diggers song Dolphin's cry. These 2 things is the reasons why I still thnking maybe to buy this album.
Facts are considered political nowadays because lies have become the norm.
Great video reaction realy enjoyed your thoughts. This song is very sombre in tone love floor's singing and the lyrics are very throght provoking. Shall definitely subscribe to your channel
With the recent news of a band member resigning, it's even more poignant. For me this track is possibly one of the most emotive ever, especially the album's release at the start of "The interesting times". The combination of Floor's simple, but beautifully clear vocals, and little else at the start immediately sends goosebumps through even the hardened fan... I, personally was in tears. The clues really in the title, "Procession", as a listener, you expect it to progress, and change. It does, but those changes are subtle, non-repetitive and also, somewhat surprises us by ending before it progresses too much. And that's exactly where some might perhaps find criticism with the track, they might feel it lacks a crescendo. But that's the point, things end before WE want them to.... but what WE want isn't necessarily what's best. Hey, I'd like the track to last forever... but then again, if it did I'd never hear anything new...or get to hear that beautiful start again.
thanx reaction all the nightwish songs u are already do it. i remember there was a killer song for tarja turunen with solo album what is awesome.i copy paste that song there.Tarja "Never Enough" Official Lyric Video - from "Colours In The Dark" i nigh wish u see this when u have time. thanx finland salute you :)
The first Nightwish song clearly taking an activist stance? Oh dear... you DID miss their third video release from a month ago. The song is "Ad Astra" and I haven't seen a single soul that wasn't moved to tears. THAT music video is the most beautiful promo video for World Land Trust and the now official Nightwish partnership. The 'lyrics' are by Carl Sagan, another great human being that shaped our understanding of the world and the universe.
Tribal is coming up, sweet! :D
It is! It's the next one! It'll be out tomorrow if everything goes as expected!!
To me this is one of my favourite songs on the album. It has no real chorus, but I don't miss it at all!! Some Dutch words in the background in the video, as Floor is Dutch, coincidence?? Who knows. Those Dutch words are ' Het onstaan der soorten'. In english: ' the Origin of the Species' Nice review of a very pretty song!👍
This song really reminds me of Loreena McKennitt. Especially Floor's vocals here.
You should watch the Ad Astra lyric video from a few weeks ago. It's with the same World Land Trust charity.
Hi! This isn't relevant to the reaction itself, but your cover of Sleeping Sun has appeared in one of my Daily Mix(es) on Spotify and it is always a pleasure to hear when it does pop up! :D Just thought I'd pass that on.
Awww Cartis!! Thank you so much!!! ❤️❤️❤️
It seems to be looking back at Earth, from the point of view of the last humans. I don't think what we're going through is an extinction event, but it is a timely warning that our existence is as fragile as those animals whose habitats we have destroyed, and who are facing extinction as a result. We need to take stock of who we want to be in the future.
Reminds me a little of the movie "mists of avalon" , not only the music....
Wow. Number seven already.
But Noise is still my favorite.
This song is a swan song for humanity and even for all life on earth, sung by entities of the future. I would not call it "pretty" or "cool". It´s more like a depressing forecast of what will happen. This song, I think, is one of the most truthfull yet disturbing ones I ever heard.
Nice!
Shouldve wrote.. full zoos.. empty wilderness, but tuomas is a genius as usual
Love the song, love the review, but 2:15 seconds in the song when Troy is playing the pipes, do you hear some feedback or is it just me? Also your song is very nice!!
Didnt knew talking about biology and evolution is politic lol, i appreciate when you give information about singing stick to that.
I speak english a little,you know NIGHTWISH,MY PREFER BLOOD, FANTOM OF OPERA,THE ISLANDER, BYEBYE BEAUTIFUL,I WISH IN A ANGEL,SORRY FOR THE PROBLEM WITH WRITE FOR DISCU6
Brilliant bravo
I think this song is part 2 of The greatest Show on Earth.
Etonnant qu'il y ait l'affiche de Princesse Mononoke derrière vous sur cette chanson.
How to recognize time signature of this one?
Бvзvвір it's 4/4 in the verses. In the interlude it's 4 bars grouped: 3 bars of 7/8, then one of 6/8. Repeat.
@@T1hitsTheHighestNote ohhh thanks a lot! I only wish to be able to know music theory a little bit at least and time signatures especially
Pretty weird how unimportant you see the lyrics, and exclusivcely talk about the images... The Lyrics have a huge message in this one.
i call this lyricaly..... a post apocalyptic post mortem of a self-destructive species who almost fucked up everything around it
This song is the one most reactors stay away from. It clearly has a strong message to humankind. Staying away from it feels like being political correct and not speaking out how you really feel. That makes me sad. Musically it is stunning, creating a song without a chorus.
yes, beautiful lyrics and as always Floors voice amazing, but... the tone of the first verse goes on and on and on .... it grows slow on me but very slow...is it because there is no real chorus? i dont know.
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And how is it, with your professed love of all thins *'Fantasy'* you haven't reacted to anything from *RUSH* ??
There are literally, multiple albums of songs, that fit your criteria perfectly.
I love the song! Thank you for doing this. First things first: There's nothing "political" here. It's a wrong word to use. Nightwish naturally raises the awareness with the songs especially from this album. It would be quite odd if they weren't doing this. You might want to check out the "NIGHTWISH - 'Ad Astra' - [World Land Trust Partnership] (OFFICIAL VIDEO)". Here's the link:
th-cam.com/video/VshpPBBehxE/w-d-xo.html
You haven't done a reaction video of it before and it seems that you haven't seen it. I understand that you chose the word "political" though. It's hard to choose the words that perfectly describe things. English isn't my native language so I can really relate to that. Anyway, I really like your videos. Thank you for sharing this beautiful experience with us.
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Since when caring for the life of other species is considered "political"?
Dean375 yes! it’s a moral thing, not political
I know 🤔 I've seen people online complain and I couldn't really understand where they were coming from, so I just assumed I didn't fully understand something....
Everything is "political" in some form or other.
Hi Elvann, always appreciate your perspectives on music, and especially Nightwish! For me, this song is both musically and vocally, very beautiful!! I am not however, such a fan of the repetitious nature of the verses, and really found the Endangered Species adverts in the middle section to be disruptive to the flow of the song, although not disagreeing with the message! Quite an interesting perspective, having been written from the point of view of a future Earth inhabitant, recounting the history of life on earth....even down to being in a language we can understand...aahhh, Tuomas's writing skills! :-) Keep up the good work!
Well we won't have the "endangered" adverts when listening to the disc, so the interlude probably will not come off distracting (listened with headphones on in the dark might have quite the meditative effect...). Overall the song is a tender counterpart to the "We were here!" ending to the last album... there's not only elation to be felt at us being here. So this song resonates with me on the emotional level.
If you like ‘songs with a meaning’ check out Floors song for WarChild (Dutch charity for support of children with war trauma worldwide): th-cam.com/video/e6-6NVsbg6U/w-d-xo.html. Take care you show the English lyrics to grasp what she sings
Nice song. Folk typically are ok with political songs if they agree with the politics being advocated.
もののけ姫 😍
I don't this song is activistic or political. The album is called Human Nature, and this song just throw in our faces the cruel side of the human nature, especially when it comes to coexisting with other species.
I don't think Tuomas is trying to convince/alert anyone of preservation of something like that. He said something similar about Noise, that it's not a tech criticism, and I Procession is very similar in that aspect.
Like.!!!!!!
Great, no beautiful song!
Are you ok sweetie? There were songs about the fall of the Berlin wall about the cold war ...great songs. What are you talking about songs not being political? Why not?
Probably my least favorite on the record, though of course Floor's singing is beautiful and the composition is always top notch. It just lacks the hook for me to seek this one out. It's not a fun song, or one that invokes strong emotion like Poet. I'm also not a proponent of artists using their platform for expressing political beliefs as that often tends to turn people off as much as it energizes others. It's a limiting factor, in my view. This message - preservation of the natural world - is not extremely controversial though, so long as they don't start advocating for human regression. Seems to me, based on an interview with Tuomas that he's not saying that, however. Seems like he is saying that in his view, we can progress, technologically as well as in overall numbers, and still not destroy the natural world. I tend to agree. We don't need to retreat to an 18th century lifestyle to take care of the planet. I do hope their future writing and performing is not politically motivated, though. I think they can still be the great live performers of outstanding symphonic metal without alienating half of their audience, and support whatever causes they feel appropriate for them using their fame, off stage.
Many of the most powerful songs are political - Blowin' In The Wind, What's Going On?, Gimme Shelter, Keep On Rockin' In The Free World, Born In The USA...
I'm kinda surprised you think half the audience is in the camp opposed to the message here.
@@ChrisPage68 Yeah, though power is subjective. Most of those are borne of a particular era. Most I'm not a fan of. I just want to be entertained, not preached to or asked to take a particular stand on a particular issue. Just a personal opinion, but it's not what *I'm* looking for in music.
@@Growls I don't think that.
How is caring for life on this planet political ??? Excuse me ????
I understand the message of the song, but musically it's not my favourite. It's too repetitive and boring and I don't think it will be remembered in the future as one of the best Nightwish songs. Thank you for your reaction :)
Well it is what it is intended to be... a Procession - from the birth of life to its extinction. With any procession, there is the monotone element. Overall, this builds nicely, and I was expecting it to just maybe reach a full climax at the end. But I can totally see that such an issue was decided against - for it would somewhat clash with the poignant lyrics. Yes, not the awesomeness-at-first-listen that, e. g., "Dead Boy's Poem" is, but a different kind of a "ballad". It works emotionally and will be remembered for being so distinct.
to be honest this whole album is by far the most boring album of Nightwish ... :/
U're lipsyncin again
Generally, I despise politics in music. Being pro-earth shouldn't fall under politics at all. Sadly, that's unavoidable today.
I'd consider myself an eco-fascist. Environmentalism can span the entire traditional right-left political spectrum, but fits best with third-positionism.
I don't know many right-wing environmentalists. It's anathema to them.
@@ChrisPage68 You're thinking of "right-wing" in capitalist conservative terms then. The right wing encompasses much more that we aren't allowed to talk about.
www.counter-currents.com/2018/04/robert-stark-interviews-greg-johnson-on-eco-fascism-2