Not exactly a ‘progress’ update of any kind, you’ve just outlined the plans, concepts and ideas further. From an engineering standpoint, this has Dubai’s failings (and Saudi Arabia’s previous mega project failings) written all over it.
Especially if they actually give it the mirror finish on the south side. That will create a death zone with temperatures exceeding 70C because of the direct and reflected sunlight.
do you mind diving further into your engineering standpoint + the prior examples of failings? very curious to find and hear from your educated perspective
This megaproject is an example of what happens when the ruling class has more money than they know what to do with. Things like the luxury island and the ski resort will get built first, but the projects for the common folks may never happen. The Line has so many engineering challenges!
Let's say they overcome the many many serious engineering problems. Sorry I don't want to live in a cramped space, at 200meters wide this is not going to be a comfortable place to live. Rather build a circular dome 50 miles in diameter, at least then you would not feel cramped together. And as per Saudi custom slaves will be maintaining it, buried on the lowest levels, probably underground out of sight.
Fossil fuels were made obsolete by nuclear energy 60 years ago. The only reason these people are relevant is because of their wealth from a huge deposit of dinosaur juice. Nobody asked for their 'visionary' architecture
I wouldn't want to live like this, its like an ant colony. You're limited to the space that's given to you. Go to work/school, go home, shop, go to those shops...etc.
Be careful what you wish for. That’s what I see with these “Everything you could ever want is provided” enclosed cities which you will likely not be able to leave. Reminds me of The Island, Aeon Flux, Blade Runner, Elysium, Alita, Children of Men, Dark City, District 9, Dredd, In Time, Gattaca, Total Recall or some other Dystopian flick.
Authoritarians believe they can just order something to happen, without any consideration for the economic viability. Free Markets are messy, but they are the most efficient way to allocate resources. Projects like these would have already been built if they were profitable, and that is why you have never seen a line city before in history. 6 million people will never live in such an inefficient city where everything is on average 80km away.
As far as I know, this particular experiment has never been done. There's only one way to know for sure. That's to actually run it. However, it looks like you are totally right.
You're most reasonable comment I've seen here. Very surprised how many optimists there are here that I feel it's ridiculous. Thank God I'm not alone being skeptical about this project.
Why a high income profile would join this new project? There are many places in the world that compete for the same profiles. Singapore, Dubai, Hong Kong ...
@@endi4654 Those always only manmade god$, and saudiland is famous for easily violent delusional aberhamic authoritarian manipulative sociopathy that seems to involve tossing atheists in jail for 10 years for public speaking.
This project will disrupt the activities of the entire biosphere outside of it, and it will be detrimental to every species of animal that previously depended on being able to traverse the terrain. This could only happen in a dictatorship.
best explanation to why oil prices per barrel have skyrocketed , Saudis are having the world pay for this, they are looking out towards the future to when their wells dry up
best explanation to why oil prices per barrel have skyrocketed , Saudis are having the world pay for this, they are looking out towards the future to when their wells dry up
@@Crookedcross322 And they're doing that by building a city that will inherently cost too much to do business in because of its vast maintenance and upkeep expenses once the oil subsidies run out? Like, seriously, that seems to be the main problem with these projects. They're trying to build Las Vegas, but Las Vegas exists due to a combination of American legal codes, being easy to get to as a 'get away' for most continental Americans, and being ensconced it was still, more or less, a stable and prosperous country (no predictions on the future though) and even then Vegas has a hard time justifying its existence.
No, for that it would need to have substantial progress which it likely never will. This project COULD be STARTED by building 800m sections at a time. You can use the money from selling space in the first section to finance the next one and so on but for people to buy, you would need to have (almost) all amenities in each section. This will lead to sections being very similar to each other like a one of those huge malls that has the same stores repeating. Potential investors will see this after 3-4 sections and realize the concept is boring and become uninterested.
Personally I think this project will end up like a lot of the Chinese cities that were built in the hope people would inhabit them. Unfortunately people don't seem to want to live in a controlled environment where you live like lab rats in a giant cage. A very glitzy and glamorous cave all the same. Apart from anything else, how many people from the Western world want to live in that part of the world, with its cultural limitations and archaic laws etc.
You talk about China building a city that nobody wants to live in, I call that Penthouse problem, we in US have millions of homeless people and more people rent then own their home! Big companies buy out entire neighborhood and turn it into rental, in places without rent stabilization or control! Our cities are falling apart, dirty, overcrowded and the 1% live in paradise, rest can't afford medical care, young people are in debt for years and infrastructures are old as fuck! I watch China do more in 20 years than we did in 100,except the MIC! Always money for another aircraft carrier or another generation aircraft! F22 used once and against a weather baloon! Drones and hypersonic missiles made big slow ships obsolete, yet we scoff at Chinese! Arrogance is the best indicator of stupidity!
They sure are drawing a line in the sand there. I was thinking about nature/birds too. I don't think the height is the biggest problem. Some mountains are a lot higher - but why do they make it reflective? Sure, it looks cool, but it reflects all the heat into the desert and surrounding air. Another problem I see is with the planned ski-resort. Those mountains don't look like they have great slopes for skiing and in the end the landscape will look a lot more artificial than natural, because so many structures will have to be placed. I also don't understand the necessity to build this, but I guess that's what Saudi Arabian dreams look like. Snow and a harbor.
I'm from a supply chain background, this whole build is going to be incredibly sensitive to disruption in procurement of the necessities, especially as it's in the middle of a dessert. Would be super risky imo to live there; would like to hear what their humanitarian relief scenarios would look like and what plans they have. To me I can't shake the system cascade risk - all it would take is one or two missed deliveries of food or a malfunction of power/water pumps for a a day or so and upto millions of lives would be at risk!
This is the classic tale of the naked king. The whole world is watching this crazy person throwing billions in the desert, and no one to say "This is bs!" The best plan for Saudi Arabia is to build lots of desalination plants and let the water pour into the desert. Do it for many years, until natural rivers and lakes will form. It will cost much less and the effects will be tremendous.
I think the fundamental planning error is the lack of light. That was shown by computer animation much brighter than it actually is. I hope that I am wrong.
Theoretically you live on the outside surface so lots of natural light, but the interior will be very dark on the lower levels as there will be hanging gardens, bridges and transit ways above. Also, I’m guessing not all condos can be on the outside surface but no worries because only members of the underclass (I.e. regular people) will live on the interior of the lower floors.
…anyway, this project is difficult to build for many major technical reasons. These could be overcome but there would need to be demand. I think the presenter even points out that there is the chicken and egg problem of building the infrastructure first to drive demand but probably needing money from existing residents to finance that infrastructure. This problem can be solved with modularity, which is financing this project one 800m section at a time but then the mystique of living in a 170km line won’t be there and neither will many amenities at first making for a tough sell. You could make each 800m section have MOST amenities needed (which is kind of the idea anyway) but then the Line loses its magic as each section becomes much like the others, a distopian endless mall where the same stores and condos keep repeating pointlessly 200 times. No point in building this in that case.
I have worked in Saudi Arabia for years and it is a nice place. I was down in El Hafuf. The line is a grand project but will rely on the inhabitants working and living in close formation. It doesn't seem like a city that you can drive around in very much. Sure, there will be escalators, subways, monorails and the such but no cars on the outside. However, I could be wrong and there will be a massive highway system along with parking everyplace. The one thing that I don't understand is why build up? If you dig down 200 ft, you the atmosphere cools off naturally. Unless they are worried about earthquakes and then its a bother for both those up and down. Firefighting might be an issue. Get one fire and you will dump tons of toxic smoke all over the place. You know what, this is a really bad idea. A terrorists playground against the Saudis is something I DO NOT want to see. Going underground in mega large cities might be the better idea all the way around.
Bikes, golf carts, moped, trams, segway, trams, there are a lot that could be in the plans or could be introduced later (including cars and tracks although limited. We don't know a thing. get more info before you form an opinion, otherwie you are just talking out of your ass.
I don't see a point in making a line city, to go to one end would take too long. I would have been more effecient to make it like a ring, and a cross in the middle that will serve as a highway and transit system to cut across the middle and up and down. Basically its like a compass. North, South, East and West cross sections with a transfer hub in the centre.
Look into 15 minute cities. I guess it's what's in store for the future. Cities built and designed with everything you need within 15 minutes so you don't need to drive places.
The Saudi are working closely with German volocopter to provide electric helicopters for taxi purposes. The volocopter has already been tested in the area and passed the tests. What I don't understand is why the sides are mirrors, why not use Elon musk type solar roof tiles to promote solar energy and reduce reflection dynamics that will increase temperatures and cause damage to nature in the area.
A linear city maximizes the average pairwise distance of two points ==> maximum travel times. Then build it into a desert without water. This isn't fit even for a penal colony.
What a nightmare of a place, it boggles the mind that whoever planned this didn't have anyone confident enough to tell them it was a bad idea working for them.
If you tell HRH Prince Salman that this is a bad idea, your life will take a turn in a negative direction. The man is a visionary, I think it’s okay as we will learn something from this project at any rate.
@@JM-nm3bg You can't be a visionary and also be someone that punishes anyone that tells you know. All we will learn from this project is that the wastefulness of the Saudis has no bounds.
The reflective outer layer needs to obsorb sunlight and harness it. The problem is that the reflective surfaces will become magnifying glasses with sunlight and it'll become highly dangerous to go forward with this situation. It'll have to be made of solar panels from 1 end to the other with cameras to give realistic view of the outside areas to even remotely make the outer edge safe at least. Even that may not solve the problem either. Its a great aspirational futuristic design but the outer surfaces need to be addressed ASAP or lots of people will be cooked alive by the reflective surfaces beaming off the sunlight.
As badly as I wish they could build the Line, it's just not possible with the current dimensions. Those twin walls are just too high. They would use up too much metal to be practical even for a length of one mile long. 70 miles long would be impossible. Yeah, maybe if they took a hundred years working 24/7/365 and stripped the planet of metal ore. Why couldn't they make it just two miles long to actually get a finished city in a reasonable length of time. Why does it need to be so tall? 250 meters tall would be fine. Sand would get inside even at 500 meters tall. They're just throwing away money building impossible projects. I can't even imagine many people wanting to live in such a place.
In Denmark we have an Incineration Plant, designed by a Danish Architect, with an artificial ski hill on top of the Plant. We haven't had much snow for many years so this is a way to do it, also in Saudi Arabia.
What is it going to cost to air condition this creation? And where is water going to come from? You can desalinate, also at a huge energy cost. This is a desert. There is no water, and it can go up to 120 degrees. It would be a much better idea to build this in Vermont or something.
Right. And the fact they even considered man made snow is nuts. The moisture would have to come from somewhere and it wouldn't return to an aquafer or increase rain fall through evaporation. It would add to the alkaline water that Saudi already has plenty of. It would have to be desalinated water, and like you said, RO plants use massive amounts of electricity. I really hate this thing.
Very interesting. How come there's no high speed rail in this country? You would think travel thru dessert would be more important than living in all that heat. How would one travel in that city? How would one travel to in other city in that country? How are they planning to get water anywhere? That also cost and you would think, water first, then the town.
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My guess about water is that it will be from the desalination plants which will most likely be located at Oxagon(sp?) on the Red Sea (?)coast, which is one of the first things that must be built, then piped all along the line into the various hubs. That's how I would do it. No fancy extremes needed. Do we know what the terrain is in terms of height from the Coast to the rest of this project? It isn't hard to pipe water downhill, heck the ancient romans had it figured out how to go extreme long distances via aqueducts. We shall see.
The only way to prevent people from having to travel 80km to the mall is by duplicating it many times along the length in the building. Highly inefficient if centralization is what they are looking for. The idea seems novel, if one can remove 12 million people from the roads and all the associated policing, licensing, and all related infrastructural needs, the saving is potentially huge. Piping, sewage and electricity all concentrated in one place, huge saving. So yeah, there are questions, pros and cons, of course. But if you consider the annual carnage on the roads, carjackings, fuel savings and others, one has to at least look at this kind of thing seriously. Even if this particular iteration might not be feasible, it makes us think. And that's actually more important. And thinking differently about things might solve many problems.
Y'ever notice how these shiny clean renderings always leave out the trash dumps, the sewage plants, and all the other icky bits of infrastructure that a society requires to function? It's all idealized futurism with no foundation in ugly reality. And when it all starts to go wrong, it's going to be a nightmare in there.
best explanation to why oil prices per barrel have skyrocketed , Saudis are having the world pay for this, they are looking out towards the future to when their wells dry up
I can see this being scaled back in the near future, the cost will increase as time goes on, and given that the World is heading into a depression within the next three years will make mega projects such as this nonviable.
No doub the scaling back will be epic. Rivaling the incredible 100m 10kmh ride in a Tesla the Hyperloop turned out to be. Its gonna be a hotel and a shopping mall for billionaires at best lol.
megalomaniac project.... by stoned architects... Lets start at the beginning of the 170 km line and complete the FIRST km ...see how THAT goes and see if the non beheaded rest of the citizens want to live there..in the scornching HEAT without ANY wind.... What could go wrong?
The Line is estimated to be 170 km through the desert. I would like to understand what is the attraction to live at the center areas, 85 km from either ocean (and airports, and other facilities on the coast) in a sea of desert?
It's ambitious, you gotta give them that. The Line more than all of the others combined. I am deeply intrigued by the idea of a modular city where the units are contained and all amenities are 5 minutes away. This is a way of thinking about urban development that hasn't been around in a while. And certainly not on the scale of 9 million people. Even if this fails, as it is likely to do, I think that the attempt is important and at the very least has jumpstarted a lot of groups thinking about how to make something like this. Hopefully that can spawn more projects, smaller, but likely to work out.
Clearly you have never been to Europe. I can, right now, go out of my apartment and spend 2 minutes walking to get to a supermarket. Right across from me is a school, so about 30 seconds of walking. Along the road there are takeaways, and 10 minutes of walking there are luxury restaurants. There is a district mall about the same distance away where I can buy clothes, tech, or home needs. 1 minute walk away and I come to one of the main bus lines, which I can either take deeper into the city, or to the nearest metro and train station, which on its own is already within walking distance. I don't even live in some fancy place of the city. All the buildings here are old, with my district having the reputation of being the least classy. No, walkable cities where everything is about 5 minutes away is just normal for Europe. It's not some high tech dream or some long lost concept. It's right here. And know what? I'm not living in some dumb as rocks line that can only exist in the mind of a billionaire dictator.
@TheTattorack No, I haven't been to Europe. I did live in South America for years, though. Same thing there. American cities are car centric. A lot of places are trying to find ways to blend the design styles or toss cars out entirely (the later likely won't work any time soon). My comment was clearly aimed at the place I live... which you seemed capable of deducing correctly. :) We're the only place in the world that operates like this. Europe and others grew this way organically out of necessity. The store needed to be right there because that's as far as people were willing to go for it. Suburban sprawl in the US and the advent of the car here changed that. Better or worse is another discussion.
Yeah Saudi is well known for there slave labour, I see millions living underground, barely fed begging to see the sunlight after spending decades never allowed above ground level. No thank you.
@@mycroft16 If you get the chance, take a trip to Barcelona. Large parts of the city consists of "superblocks" with roads in-between. Most of the roads are quiet "local roads" with higher capacity roads every few blocks, making it easy to get around without too much traffic for the residents. I assume they can do all everyday tasks within a few minutes of walking.
The World does not need another paradise for the wealthy. It needs perspectives and a future for ordinary people. The Line means long commutes back and forth. High commuting speeds are not reached, because the public transit stops are spaced close together. An oval or a circle would shorten the average commuting time considerably.
Yes - my first reaction was - why not a city built as a ring system- rings of alternating city & greenery, then you have control of all of it in a much smaller space. What advantage is there in having 2 very high (shiny?) walls with no doors or escape, and with a 'city' living inside - it seems ridiculous. I presume there will be heli pads somewhere at least ? Thing is they are doing these kinds of things because they have so much oil money to spend, but since oil is on the way out that will not be true forever...then what ?
@@XHALE303 the one coming soon to a city near you. You haven't heard of global warming? Or you don't believe it? Greenland will be bare of ice in twenty years. This alone will raise sea levels seven feet worldwide. Eighty percent of the population of the U.S. lives within a hundred miles of a coastline. If you look up rising ocean maps you'll start to understand. Part of the city in this video is nearly at sea level. Unless they build apartments on an incline, the whole thing might be under water before it's started.
I don't understand the practicality of the project: a straight line building guarantees a maximum distance between point A and B. That seems like a waste of energy to me if you can't take a shortcut through the center of a town. A maximum of residents can be accommodated on a circular area of a town - and the transport routes are usually minimal as is the energy to move around.
Gravity fed ocean water into Qattara Depression, Salton Sea, Death Valley and Laguna Salada will increase monsoonal moisture and increase rainfall in the barren desert. We see the Agess Inc company in San Diego, California would be ideal for interview by Nathan White the CEO.
Should not be a continous line above Ground. They need to "tunnels below ground to connect at Intervals, the thing that creeps me out is it looks like a lack of escape from the line. I get claustrophobic at the thought of living in such a structure. People need to be able to feel the Planet, breath the air, stretch in Mother Earths splendar.
God is laughing out loud. Soon to be counted among the world's abandoned cities. Abundance, extravagance إِنَّ الْمُبَذِّرِينَ كَانُوا إِخْوَانَ الشَّيَاطِينِ ۖ وَكَانَ الشَّيْطَانُ لِرَبِّهِ كَفُورًا
Can't lay trtracks for trains on sand without building the entire thing on columns, above the dunes and constantly changing landscape, even there is a earthquake line trough the middle! But good luck! I personally think that Egypt building a river system is doing a smart thing and a great investment!
@thor.halsli The money isnt necessarily a big concern, they'll have the money and resources, its just a matter of will this mega project physically be able to get done. Nearly a trillion dollars was spent giving stimulus checks during covid in the US, yes trillion with a T.. 814 billion to be exact, more than enough to build this line @ 500 billion
I'm only amateur but wow these projects are amazing! I don't understand why all of The Line is planned to be a straight line arranged city 176km long. You should explain why the very unusual layout of a straight line and why so long? Also where are all the 9 million people going to come from? Will it be an extremely costly form of living and maybe an international city populated by those who can afford it? That is fantastic it is being designed to be carbon neutral!! It's a very innovative and original idea, but just from my amateur view I don't understand it's chosen form and expected function for 9 million people. Maybe try 1km first and see how it goes.
I agree with all the questions already written in the comments with one more question: how will digging that far down not impact the earthquake potential?
8:52 Converting a construction from one use to another is usually expensive. Example, a number of US cities now have excess office space and some attempt is made to convert to residential. Residential requires substantially more plumbing than an office. This means stripping things out, installing pipes without weakening the superstructure. Not all buildings can accommodate this and, as I said, this doesn't come cheap.
Gents, Please to share I'm working on the Line as a BIM Manager since 1 year and I can say the work is on full swing 24/7. 1000s of workforce engaged in different lots. World's tier 1entities are dealing for the delivery and construction activities.
Moving sand around isn't going to provide much support. People want to see real work on the foundations for this colossal mega project that's so expensive it's ridiculous. Too many areas not covered, too many safety concerns at the least, a 24/7 work force in that heat is deadly and dangerous. It'll be 3 shifts of 9hrs each and must have shaded areas with water to hydrate the workers at all times. I can give you 1000s of questions which will be a utter nightmare to address and yet the foundation isn't in place and the sheer size is breathtakingly too big. Maybe if its built bit by bit but yet the sheer amount of materials needed for the project to be completed is also astronomical. It'll be great to see but it's a lost cause and far too many issues to build something that big. So yes its nice in concept and to hear 1000s are being made to work in extreme heat to complete this process whilst others sit back and watch these 1000s of people drop dead from heat exhaustion as well as dehydration. It's going to be a hot prison for the people who Saudi Arabias wealthiest deem poor or unwanted near the nicest places they have created for the wealthiest in the world. Saudi Arabia has far too much money and not willing to better peoples lives but only how to make themselves wealthier. Selfish ideology which will not be idealistic and then control measures over who can visit the nice places and everyone else can visit the slum line and the areas built for the unworthy. This is paramount as hotels are far too expensive aiming at only the super rich as that world cup showed that metal containers were transformed in to living spaces. Those living spaces had little space to do anything nothing wired or plumbed in properly, the containers were too hot to stay in and nothing was truly on a acceptable level. Simplest food was massively overpriced and majority of the areas weren't finished. Workers were found shattered and massively over worked with some saying that they were told to work or else. Many workers weren't even paid they were enslaved to build and work in extreme conditions. The workers who died were also disrespected as their families weren't given those wages and no apology for the death of the beloved family member. People from France, Germany, Asia, Africa and many other places to work in those extreme conditions. Saudi Arabia is going to be a place where nobody will work or live and the wealth of Saudi Arabia will be left with mass graveyards all around them. No companies will be there other than the ones bought by the wealthy individuals of Saudi Arabia. They will buy themselves into a colossal ghost nation as nobody and nothing will ever be there long enough.
@@cplcabs my bad, I meant to say almost finished. I learned about the project at least a year and a half ago or more when I first heard about it. Yes I was aware that the project has started already. Good catch.
What everybody seems to have missed, is that, apart from all the nice visuals, the ‘line’ is in effect 2 dimensional. Just length and hight. No width. No exit. If they were my ‘advisors’, I would fire them on the spot ‼️ No hesitation.
If you ever wanted to live in a shopping mall, the line is your place. How long will you last in a environment like that before depression and anxiety drives you mad. Not to long Im guessing. But to each their own.
Make some more videos because these cities are fascinating. The "Line" is out there thinking and very beautiful. Build it and 9,000,000 people will come.
Some questions….. How do you get in and out of it? How do people and animals get past it? What if a Haboob throws a big dune up against it or sand into it? And dulls the mirrors? What if the power goes out? Where does it come from? Where does the waste go? How do deliveries get in? Can the residents control the amount of tourists? Are people now living in cities it crosses actually being executed for opposing it or not wanting to sell their property? Is it possible for living things to be blinded by the mirror? Or burnt? What will the rules be like? How many people are interested in living there? Who are the builders erecting this monolith? Will everyone become nearsighted because you can’t ever look at distant objects? What do environmental scientists think about it? I’m tired of typing.
Such wasteful projects, and in a country rife with human rights violations. I believe most of these projects will be massively scaled down, and that's if they even continue to be built in a year or two. Consider what has happened to other wasteful projects like Jeddah tower
Wouldn't it be a great legacy to have lifted everyone in your country out of poverty and given everyone a feeling of purpose and a good education. To have students from all over the world want to come to your country to learn. They could probably do this for a fraction of the money being spent on the Line
Just handling the sewage from "The Line" will be an engineering nightmare. Add to that thing like food supply, and garbage disposal tells me that they will need at least three MASSIVE sub-levels to handle basic infra-structure support. They might replace the mirror walls with solar cells to help with reducing the environmental damage, but they will still need to add large animal pass through portals to allow for migrations. From what they are showing this thing is not even half though through and is mostly hype.
Sorry for my accent, I hope you understood almost all the words!
The Line is a distopian project. People will suffer from depression in that line!
Nous te comprenons. Excellent travail !
@@Uroki_ANGLIYSKOGO_s_Nulya_The residents are not prisoners, pal .
Ah merci, ça me rassure !
@@youngmo77 Who told you that they are prisoners?! Living in cramped place causes depression! People need open space, nature to have healthy psyche!
I wonder how many lines the architects snorted when they came up with this.
Takes all kinds of snorting to come up with this idea…
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Hahaha good thanks
I'm starting to see why people are sickening
Not exactly a ‘progress’ update of any kind, you’ve just outlined the plans, concepts and ideas further.
From an engineering standpoint, this has Dubai’s failings (and Saudi Arabia’s previous mega project failings) written all over it.
Especially if they actually give it the mirror finish on the south side. That will create a death zone with temperatures exceeding 70C because of the direct and reflected sunlight.
Those guys are easy marks for the Euro/Amer scammers...They'll pay BILLIONS before a yd of dirt is moved...
do you mind diving further into your engineering standpoint + the prior examples of failings? very curious to find and hear from your educated perspective
Never buy off the plan.
Dubai seems to have done very well. What failings?
Pure genius...a prison city in the middle of a desert so no one can escape..
Exacly....
Judge dredd?
That's exactly the intention too.
15 min city desert style .
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This megaproject is an example of what happens when the ruling class has more money than they know what to do with. Things like the luxury island and the ski resort will get built first, but the projects for the common folks may never happen. The Line has so many engineering challenges!
Not as many engineering challenges than finding logic behind any of it.
Lots of money + very low IQ and imagination
Let's say they overcome the many many serious engineering problems. Sorry I don't want to live in a cramped space, at 200meters wide this is not going to be a comfortable place to live. Rather build a circular dome 50 miles in diameter, at least then you would not feel cramped together. And as per Saudi custom slaves will be maintaining it, buried on the lowest levels, probably underground out of sight.
Fossil fuels were made obsolete by nuclear energy 60 years ago. The only reason these people are relevant is because of their wealth from a huge deposit of dinosaur juice. Nobody asked for their 'visionary' architecture
And... being in Saudi Arabia, it will primarily use slave labor from poor countries.
It's so nice to see all that wealth going to help ... the wealthy.
😂😂😂my stomach hurts
Construction industry benefits from this.
@@RobShuttleworth owned by rich people and largely employing people who are basically slaves.
I wouldn't want to live like this, its like an ant colony. You're limited to the space that's given to you. Go to work/school, go home, shop, go to those shops...etc.
Exactly what THE U S did & took TAXES 😂😂😂 👏 left them DREAMING aka American Dream it's just a dream 😂😂😂
I do not think many people would choose to live in a space like this.
Government will force them.
@@dannyverhamme7970let them force me
Why not I would live
They are investing in their future for better living.
Meanwhile, my taxes are wasted by corrupt politicians & they can’t even fix potholes.
...and never be allowed to leave.
At least that is trillions of dollars not spent on weapons. 😊
Be careful what you wish for. That’s what I see with these “Everything you could ever want is provided” enclosed cities which you will likely not be able to leave. Reminds me of The Island, Aeon Flux, Blade Runner, Elysium, Alita, Children of Men, Dark City, District 9, Dredd, In Time, Gattaca, Total Recall or some other Dystopian flick.
Not to mention "The World Inside" (1971) by Robert Silverberg
With Murder By State running it.
What could go wrong?
Or a caste structure develops in the city, poor people down in some sort of maintenance level
Snowpiercer.
Have you ever been outside your country? Sounds like u just regurgitate what the media and fake news feed you
As remarkable as this megacity construction is, I won't be visiting no matter what...EVER!
You won't be able to when you're locked in your own 15 minute prison city.
Every one of these sites will definitely be a military target in the near future.
Neither you, nor your kids/ futur kids may find out. Saudi Arabia ain't no punk to mess with. 👍
@@youngmo77 Don't get me wrong, not from the U.S., but from other greedy and jealous nations.
@@youngmo77Saudi is a nobody. The moment USA stops giving security, the ksa will collapse like a house of cards run by pedophiles.
@@youngmo77Buts he’s correct
@@youngmo77 Saudi couldn't fight its way out of a paper bag
The Line: From a fire fighters point of view, The Line is a Fire Death Trap from which there will be no escape.
One fireball ripping through...
Authoritarians believe they can just order something to happen, without any consideration for the economic viability. Free Markets are messy, but they are the most efficient way to allocate resources. Projects like these would have already been built if they were profitable, and that is why you have never seen a line city before in history. 6 million people will never live in such an inefficient city where everything is on average 80km away.
As far as I know, this particular experiment has never been done. There's only one way to know for sure. That's to actually run it.
However, it looks like you are totally right.
Bosses sound alot like that lmao
You're most reasonable comment I've seen here. Very surprised how many optimists there are here that I feel it's ridiculous. Thank God I'm not alone being skeptical about this project.
Why a high income profile would join this new project? There are many places in the world that compete for the same profiles. Singapore, Dubai, Hong Kong ...
@@endi4654 Those always only manmade god$, and saudiland is famous for easily violent delusional aberhamic authoritarian manipulative sociopathy that seems to involve tossing atheists in jail for 10 years for public speaking.
This project makes the outside of those walls beautiful
The outside, where nobody can see it.
Imagine flying over the desert, "What's that beautiful thing, oh, it's the longest prison in the world"
This project will disrupt the activities of the entire biosphere outside of it, and it will be detrimental to every species of animal that previously depended on being able to traverse the terrain. This could only happen in a dictatorship.
best explanation to why oil prices per barrel have skyrocketed , Saudis are having the world pay for this, they are looking out towards the future to when their wells dry up
In a city-community where you will have absolutely zero privacy, freedom of movement.. great concept. No individualism.
The Line is a cathastrophic project 😢
best explanation to why oil prices per barrel have skyrocketed , Saudis are having the world pay for this, they are looking out towards the future to when their wells dry up
@@Crookedcross322 And they're doing that by building a city that will inherently cost too much to do business in because of its vast maintenance and upkeep expenses once the oil subsidies run out? Like, seriously, that seems to be the main problem with these projects. They're trying to build Las Vegas, but Las Vegas exists due to a combination of American legal codes, being easy to get to as a 'get away' for most continental Americans, and being ensconced it was still, more or less, a stable and prosperous country (no predictions on the future though) and even then Vegas has a hard time justifying its existence.
No, for that it would need to have substantial progress which it likely never will. This project COULD be STARTED by building 800m sections at a time. You can use the money from selling space in the first section to finance the next one and so on but for people to buy, you would need to have (almost) all amenities in each section. This will lead to sections being very similar to each other like a one of those huge malls that has the same stores repeating. Potential investors will see this after 3-4 sections and realize the concept is boring and become uninterested.
Personally I think this project will end up like a lot of the Chinese cities that were built in the hope people would inhabit them. Unfortunately people don't seem to want to live in a controlled environment where you live like lab rats in a giant cage. A very glitzy and glamorous cave all the same. Apart from anything else, how many people from the Western world want to live in that part of the world, with its cultural limitations and archaic laws etc.
yeah some people have read about the rat utopia project and take the warning to heart.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
You talk about China building a city that nobody wants to live in, I call that Penthouse problem, we in US have millions of homeless people and more people rent then own their home! Big companies buy out entire neighborhood and turn it into rental, in places without rent stabilization or control! Our cities are falling apart, dirty, overcrowded and the 1% live in paradise, rest can't afford medical care, young people are in debt for years and infrastructures are old as fuck! I watch China do more in 20 years than we did in 100,except the MIC! Always money for another aircraft carrier or another generation aircraft! F22 used once and against a weather baloon! Drones and hypersonic missiles made big slow ships obsolete, yet we scoff at Chinese! Arrogance is the best indicator of stupidity!
If anyone can force them to live there, the Saudis can. They're already doing the opposite - forcing the local people out so they can build it.
They sure are drawing a line in the sand there. I was thinking about nature/birds too. I don't think the height is the biggest problem. Some mountains are a lot higher - but why do they make it reflective? Sure, it looks cool, but it reflects all the heat into the desert and surrounding air. Another problem I see is with the planned ski-resort. Those mountains don't look like they have great slopes for skiing and in the end the landscape will look a lot more artificial than natural, because so many structures will have to be placed. I also don't understand the necessity to build this, but I guess that's what Saudi Arabian dreams look like. Snow and a harbor.
Exactly mirrored walls ? Migratory birds will fly into this and kill flocks of birds ..
Built by the rich for the rich. They care only about themselves.
It's completely separating the coastal and inland habitats. This is an ecological disaster for anything that lives there.
I'm from a supply chain background, this whole build is going to be incredibly sensitive to disruption in procurement of the necessities, especially as it's in the middle of a dessert. Would be super risky imo to live there; would like to hear what their humanitarian relief scenarios would look like and what plans they have. To me I can't shake the system cascade risk - all it would take is one or two missed deliveries of food or a malfunction of power/water pumps for a a day or so and upto millions of lives would be at risk!
It's like a long jail.
This is only for the 1% most of us will never see this place in person. So sad......
Agreed 👍 😂😂😂South Africa 🇿🇦
Who wants to visit that backwards sand pit country anyway. Hard pass.
It also makes it a target.
No one is going to see this
Even those 1% will regret
This is the classic tale of the naked king. The whole world is watching this crazy person throwing billions in the desert, and no one to say "This is bs!"
The best plan for Saudi Arabia is to build lots of desalination plants and let the water pour into the desert. Do it for many years, until natural rivers and lakes will form. It will cost much less and the effects will be tremendous.
Please don't mention anything that will improve life for the better. 😉Stay in line.
I hope they construct artistic tunnels for their wild life to cross their line 🙏🏻
Yeah, a way through for camels and scorpions
Not much out there mate but scorpions and snakes and the odd passing camel train.
I think the fundamental planning error is the lack of light. That was shown by computer animation much brighter than it actually is. I hope that I am wrong.
The fundamental planning error is arranging your entire city in a preplanned straight line.
Theoretically you live on the outside surface so lots of natural light, but the interior will be very dark on the lower levels as there will be hanging gardens, bridges and transit ways above. Also, I’m guessing not all condos can be on the outside surface but no worries because only members of the underclass (I.e. regular people) will live on the interior of the lower floors.
…anyway, this project is difficult to build for many major technical reasons. These could be overcome but there would need to be demand. I think the presenter even points out that there is the chicken and egg problem of building the infrastructure first to drive demand but probably needing money from existing residents to finance that infrastructure. This problem can be solved with modularity, which is financing this project one 800m section at a time but then the mystique of living in a 170km line won’t be there and neither will many amenities at first making for a tough sell. You could make each 800m section have MOST amenities needed (which is kind of the idea anyway) but then the Line loses its magic as each section becomes much like the others, a distopian endless mall where the same stores and condos keep repeating pointlessly 200 times. No point in building this in that case.
That's the big planning error you see in this project? 😅
Looks like something the Borg from Star Trek would build.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED! 🤣 and you are exactly right, it's very 'Borg Line'.. 🤣
Better off planting tree and getting Fresh water from icebergs
I have worked in Saudi Arabia for years and it is a nice place. I was down in El Hafuf. The line is a grand project but will rely on the inhabitants working and living in close formation. It doesn't seem like a city that you can drive around in very much. Sure, there will be escalators, subways, monorails and the such but no cars on the outside. However, I could be wrong and there will be a massive highway system along with parking everyplace. The one thing that I don't understand is why build up? If you dig down 200 ft, you the atmosphere cools off naturally. Unless they are worried about earthquakes and then its a bother for both those up and down. Firefighting might be an issue. Get one fire and you will dump tons of toxic smoke all over the place. You know what, this is a really bad idea. A terrorists playground against the Saudis is something I DO NOT want to see. Going underground in mega large cities might be the better idea all the way around.
Bikes, golf carts, moped, trams, segway, trams, there are a lot that could be in the plans or could be introduced later (including cars and tracks although limited. We don't know a thing. get more info before you form an opinion, otherwie you are just talking out of your ass.
I don't see a point in making a line city, to go to one end would take too long. I would have been more effecient to make it like a ring, and a cross in the middle that will serve as a highway and transit system to cut across the middle and up and down. Basically its like a compass. North, South, East and West cross sections with a transfer hub in the centre.
Just like a prison
Look into 15 minute cities. I guess it's what's in store for the future. Cities built and designed with everything you need within 15 minutes so you don't need to drive places.
The Saudi are working closely with German volocopter to provide electric helicopters for taxi purposes. The volocopter has already been tested in the area and passed the tests. What I don't understand is why the sides are mirrors, why not use Elon musk type solar roof tiles to promote solar energy and reduce reflection dynamics that will increase temperatures and cause damage to nature in the area.
This is very awesome, I can't wait to see it finished.
A linear city maximizes the average pairwise distance of two points ==> maximum travel times. Then build it into a desert without water. This isn't fit even for a penal colony.
"This isn't fit even for a penal colony" Perfect description
15-Minute Prison City
What a nightmare of a place, it boggles the mind that whoever planned this didn't have anyone confident enough to tell them it was a bad idea working for them.
If you tell HRH Prince Salman that this is a bad idea, your life will take a turn in a negative direction. The man is a visionary, I think it’s okay as we will learn something from this project at any rate.
@@JM-nm3bg You can't be a visionary and also be someone that punishes anyone that tells you know. All we will learn from this project is that the wastefulness of the Saudis has no bounds.
Exactly, just another trillionaire with a mega ego who surrounded himself with yes-men
The reflective outer layer needs to obsorb sunlight and harness it. The problem is that the reflective surfaces will become magnifying glasses with sunlight and it'll become highly dangerous to go forward with this situation. It'll have to be made of solar panels from 1 end to the other with cameras to give realistic view of the outside areas to even remotely make the outer edge safe at least. Even that may not solve the problem either. Its a great aspirational futuristic design but the outer surfaces need to be addressed ASAP or lots of people will be cooked alive by the reflective surfaces beaming off the sunlight.
As badly as I wish they could build the Line, it's just not possible with the current dimensions. Those twin walls are just too high. They would use up too much metal to be practical even for a length of one mile long. 70 miles long would be impossible. Yeah, maybe if they took a hundred years working 24/7/365 and stripped the planet of metal ore.
Why couldn't they make it just two miles long to actually get a finished city in a reasonable length of time. Why does it need to be so tall? 250 meters tall would be fine. Sand would get inside even at 500 meters tall. They're just throwing away money building impossible projects. I can't even imagine many people wanting to live in such a place.
Totally agree. It’s more about ego and pride. The reality of it is something else entirely.
In Denmark we have an Incineration Plant, designed by a Danish Architect, with an artificial ski hill on top of the Plant. We haven't had much snow for many years so this is a way to do it, also in Saudi Arabia.
What is it going to cost to air condition this creation? And where is water going to come from? You can desalinate, also at a huge energy cost. This is a desert. There is no water, and it can go up to 120 degrees. It would be a much better idea to build this in Vermont or something.
Right. And the fact they even considered man made snow is nuts. The moisture would have to come from somewhere and it wouldn't return to an aquafer or increase rain fall through evaporation. It would add to the alkaline water that Saudi already has plenty of. It would have to be desalinated water, and like you said, RO plants use massive amounts of electricity. I really hate this thing.
Very interesting. How come there's no high speed rail in this country? You would think travel thru dessert would be more important than living in all that heat. How would one travel in that city? How would one travel to in other city in that country? How are they planning to get water anywhere? That also cost and you would think, water first, then the town.
There are waiting lists so you could not visualize the high speed rail ........ such projects are above the range of the public works . contractors are also ......are in different classification ...............
Builders association and college lecturers ........cannot execute ........such a huge project ...without the intervention of ......the chief ..
Generally the Mason gets his projects through word of mouth .
contractors are bidding through .....plumbers and carpenters ........
I have never seen Adam even designed a single conceptual plan but accessing all the materials particularly cement , steel and mortar through truck drivers ...
Most of these building materials are stocked in the building sites of .....deemed university .....and government schools and government universities ...........
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My guess about water is that it will be from the desalination plants which will most likely be located at Oxagon(sp?) on the Red Sea (?)coast, which is one of the first things that must be built, then piped all along the line into the various hubs. That's how I would do it. No fancy extremes needed. Do we know what the terrain is in terms of height from the Coast to the rest of this project? It isn't hard to pipe water downhill, heck the ancient romans had it figured out how to go extreme long distances via aqueducts. We shall see.
The only way to prevent people from having to travel 80km to the mall is by duplicating it many times along the length in the building. Highly inefficient if centralization is what they are looking for. The idea seems novel, if one can remove 12 million people from the roads and all the associated policing, licensing, and all related infrastructural needs, the saving is potentially huge. Piping, sewage and electricity all concentrated in one place, huge saving. So yeah, there are questions, pros and cons, of course. But if you consider the annual carnage on the roads, carjackings, fuel savings and others, one has to at least look at this kind of thing seriously. Even if this particular iteration might not be feasible, it makes us think. And that's actually more important. And thinking differently about things might solve many problems.
They will be horribly reliant on the outside providers of food and water in a desert.
It will look just like our abandoned malls here in the states. The house of suad is going out in style.
Y'ever notice how these shiny clean renderings always leave out the trash dumps, the sewage plants, and all the other icky bits of infrastructure that a society requires to function? It's all idealized futurism with no foundation in ugly reality. And when it all starts to go wrong, it's going to be a nightmare in there.
best explanation to why oil prices per barrel have skyrocketed , Saudis are having the world pay for this, they are looking out towards the future to when their wells dry up
Oil prices will rise to pay for this🤔looks amazing. All will be destroyed by Ww3😢
I can see this being scaled back in the near future, the cost will increase as time goes on, and given that the World is heading into a depression within the next three years will make mega projects such as this nonviable.
No doub the scaling back will be epic. Rivaling the incredible 100m 10kmh ride in a Tesla the Hyperloop turned out to be.
Its gonna be a hotel and a shopping mall for billionaires at best lol.
@@dmtc6913 Yeah, the only viable part of the neom project is their luxury island.
megalomaniac project.... by stoned architects... Lets start at the beginning of the 170 km line and complete the FIRST km ...see how THAT goes and see if the non beheaded rest of the citizens want to live there..in the scornching HEAT without ANY wind.... What could go wrong?
The most interesting and challenging mega project the world has ever had.
Insane sci-fi.
Who needs this and why ?
Why do u care? Ur mot even saudi
The Line is estimated to be 170 km through the desert. I would like to understand what is the attraction to live at the center areas, 85 km from either ocean (and airports, and other facilities on the coast) in a sea of desert?
We had these cities in England once, they called them back to back slums 🤣🤣🤣
each resident of NEOM will receive their own anti-gravity belt
Thanks for informing us!!
You're welcome, I hope you enjoyed the video!
@@Looking4En I wish I could live in these new cities. However I an 70 years old and my opportunity for new exciting lifestyles has passed by.
Not only The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, everybody is waiting for the project's successful completion with bated breath.
Yeah, right.
Don’t think so. 😂
Build 1 Km first test figure out the actual cost , populate it and move to a block of 5 km, 10 Km and so on. Leaving gaps for the animals migration.
There's like 3 animals that live there 😅
Lots of handshakes and pointing at models. Impressive!
It's ambitious, you gotta give them that. The Line more than all of the others combined. I am deeply intrigued by the idea of a modular city where the units are contained and all amenities are 5 minutes away. This is a way of thinking about urban development that hasn't been around in a while. And certainly not on the scale of 9 million people. Even if this fails, as it is likely to do, I think that the attempt is important and at the very least has jumpstarted a lot of groups thinking about how to make something like this. Hopefully that can spawn more projects, smaller, but likely to work out.
Clearly you have never been to Europe.
I can, right now, go out of my apartment and spend 2 minutes walking to get to a supermarket.
Right across from me is a school, so about 30 seconds of walking.
Along the road there are takeaways, and 10 minutes of walking there are luxury restaurants. There is a district mall about the same distance away where I can buy clothes, tech, or home needs.
1 minute walk away and I come to one of the main bus lines, which I can either take deeper into the city, or to the nearest metro and train station, which on its own is already within walking distance.
I don't even live in some fancy place of the city. All the buildings here are old, with my district having the reputation of being the least classy.
No, walkable cities where everything is about 5 minutes away is just normal for Europe. It's not some high tech dream or some long lost concept. It's right here.
And know what? I'm not living in some dumb as rocks line that can only exist in the mind of a billionaire dictator.
@TheTattorack No, I haven't been to Europe. I did live in South America for years, though. Same thing there. American cities are car centric. A lot of places are trying to find ways to blend the design styles or toss cars out entirely (the later likely won't work any time soon). My comment was clearly aimed at the place I live... which you seemed capable of deducing correctly. :) We're the only place in the world that operates like this. Europe and others grew this way organically out of necessity. The store needed to be right there because that's as far as people were willing to go for it. Suburban sprawl in the US and the advent of the car here changed that. Better or worse is another discussion.
Yeah Saudi is well known for there slave labour, I see millions living underground, barely fed begging to see the sunlight after spending decades never allowed above ground level. No thank you.
@@mycroft16 If you get the chance, take a trip to Barcelona. Large parts of the city consists of "superblocks" with roads in-between. Most of the roads are quiet "local roads" with higher capacity roads every few blocks, making it easy to get around without too much traffic for the residents.
I assume they can do all everyday tasks within a few minutes of walking.
The World does not need another paradise for the wealthy. It needs perspectives and a future for ordinary people.
The Line means long commutes back and forth. High commuting speeds are not reached, because the public transit stops are spaced close together. An oval or a circle would shorten the average commuting time considerably.
Yes - my first reaction was - why not a city built as a ring system- rings of alternating city & greenery, then you have control of all of it in a much smaller space. What advantage is there in having 2 very high (shiny?) walls with no doors or escape, and with a 'city' living inside - it seems ridiculous. I presume there will be heli pads somewhere at least ? Thing is they are doing these kinds of things because they have so much oil money to spend, but since oil is on the way out that will not be true forever...then what ?
Beautiful idea, but much of it seems to be in low elevation locations. I wonder if it will be half complete before its flooded.
I didn't know it rained in Saudi Arabia...😮😮😮
@@sureshpeshawaria347 rain, no. Rising ocean.
It's a terrible idea.
@@JoeSmith-cy9wj Look up statue of liberty in 1886 ....what rising ocean? 🤔
@@XHALE303 the one coming soon to a city near you. You haven't heard of global warming? Or you don't believe it? Greenland will be bare of ice in twenty years. This alone will raise sea levels seven feet worldwide. Eighty percent of the population of the U.S. lives within a hundred miles of a coastline. If you look up rising ocean maps you'll start to understand. Part of the city in this video is nearly at sea level. Unless they build apartments on an incline, the whole thing might be under water before it's started.
I don't understand the practicality of the project: a straight line building guarantees a maximum distance between point A and B.
That seems like a waste of energy to me if you can't take a shortcut through the center of a town.
A maximum of residents can be accommodated on a circular area of a town - and the transport routes are usually minimal as is the energy to move around.
Gravity fed ocean water into Qattara Depression, Salton Sea, Death Valley and Laguna Salada will increase monsoonal moisture and increase rainfall in the barren desert. We see the Agess Inc company in San Diego, California would be ideal for interview by Nathan White the CEO.
No thanks. We dont need a salt sink above our main groundwater aquifer in egypt. Regreening the sinai is a safer bet.
Should not be a continous line above Ground. They need to "tunnels below ground to connect at Intervals, the thing that creeps me out is it looks like a lack of escape from the line. I get claustrophobic at the thought of living in such a structure. People need to be able to feel the Planet, breath the air, stretch in Mother Earths splendar.
God is laughing out loud.
Soon to be counted among the world's abandoned cities. Abundance, extravagance
إِنَّ الْمُبَذِّرِينَ كَانُوا إِخْوَانَ الشَّيَاطِينِ ۖ وَكَانَ الشَّيْطَانُ لِرَبِّهِ كَفُورًا
but then why would those muslim leaders allow this to be constructed ? surely they wouldnt go against god
Can't lay trtracks for trains on sand without building the entire thing on columns, above the dunes and constantly changing landscape, even there is a earthquake line trough the middle! But good luck! I personally think that Egypt building a river system is doing a smart thing and a great investment!
I do love all the projects started and rarely completed. I really hope this isnt one of them. Could be the next "wonder of the world!"
Their oil sales are going down. Not sure how they will pay for this.
@@RobShuttleworth gold!
@@waterearthmud4116 Saudi has produced 1244 tonns of gold a year in the last ten years. Gold wont pay for even 0.01% of this project
@thor.halsli The money isnt necessarily a big concern, they'll have the money and resources, its just a matter of will this mega project physically be able to get done. Nearly a trillion dollars was spent giving stimulus checks during covid in the US, yes trillion with a T.. 814 billion to be exact, more than enough to build this line @ 500 billion
My main concern here is where is the water coming from for these 9 million inhabitants ???
Where are the 9 mio wealthy people coming from?
I'm expecting this project to be abandoned after the first dust storm buries it, or the kingdom is deposed after oil sinks to $20/bbl.
Don't know if it ever will get built but if it does I'm going to go see it.
And crash in one of its air taxis.
Yeah not going to be in the air lol. That is a bridge too far. @@pipster1891
Imagine this colossal waste of money.
Let them keep wasting their money
Incredible progress, on 3d models...
I'm only amateur but wow these projects are amazing! I don't understand why all of The Line is planned to be a straight line arranged city 176km long. You should explain why the very unusual layout of a straight line and why so long? Also where are all the 9 million people going to come from? Will it be an extremely costly form of living and maybe an international city populated by those who can afford it? That is fantastic it is being designed to be carbon neutral!! It's a very innovative and original idea, but just from my amateur view I don't understand it's chosen form and expected function for 9 million people. Maybe try 1km first and see how it goes.
It's a stupid vanity project like any other from a maniacal dictator
I don't think anyone will be able to answer your question. The closest explanation I can find is "because it's different" 🤷♂️
I agree with all the questions already written in the comments with one more question: how will digging that far down not impact the earthquake potential?
This is awesome, we look forward to its completion, a remarkable feat of engineering👍
You spelled fancy prison wrong 😋
I can bet big money this megaproject will never be finished.
i'm all for mega ambitious projects. only if coupled with common sense.
I'm not for them, bad allocation of resources, this project will go south
this is probably the closest thing we will have to a dystopian hellscape
Just another example of people with money and no sense or class.
Why do u even care , is it ur money?
8:52 Converting a construction from one use to another is usually expensive. Example, a number of US cities now have excess office space and some attempt is made to convert to residential. Residential requires substantially more plumbing than an office. This means stripping things out, installing pipes without weakening the superstructure. Not all buildings can accommodate this and, as I said, this doesn't come cheap.
this looks like a massive wall that will block all animals and human beduins from crossing it
As well as the outside being sand blasted.
Gents, Please to share I'm working on the Line as a BIM Manager since 1 year and I can say the work is on full swing 24/7. 1000s of workforce engaged in different lots. World's tier 1entities are dealing for the delivery and construction activities.
Slave labor from India?
Moving sand around isn't going to provide much support. People want to see real work on the foundations for this colossal mega project that's so expensive it's ridiculous. Too many areas not covered, too many safety concerns at the least, a 24/7 work force in that heat is deadly and dangerous. It'll be 3 shifts of 9hrs each and must have shaded areas with water to hydrate the workers at all times. I can give you 1000s of questions which will be a utter nightmare to address and yet the foundation isn't in place and the sheer size is breathtakingly too big. Maybe if its built bit by bit but yet the sheer amount of materials needed for the project to be completed is also astronomical.
It'll be great to see but it's a lost cause and far too many issues to build something that big. So yes its nice in concept and to hear 1000s are being made to work in extreme heat to complete this process whilst others sit back and watch these 1000s of people drop dead from heat exhaustion as well as dehydration. It's going to be a hot prison for the people who Saudi Arabias wealthiest deem poor or unwanted near the nicest places they have created for the wealthiest in the world. Saudi Arabia has far too much money and not willing to better peoples lives but only how to make themselves wealthier. Selfish ideology which will not be idealistic and then control measures over who can visit the nice places and everyone else can visit the slum line and the areas built for the unworthy. This is paramount as hotels are far too expensive aiming at only the super rich as that world cup showed that metal containers were transformed in to living spaces. Those living spaces had little space to do anything nothing wired or plumbed in properly, the containers were too hot to stay in and nothing was truly on a acceptable level. Simplest food was massively overpriced and majority of the areas weren't finished. Workers were found shattered and massively over worked with some saying that they were told to work or else. Many workers weren't even paid they were enslaved to build and work in extreme conditions. The workers who died were also disrespected as their families weren't given those wages and no apology for the death of the beloved family member. People from France, Germany, Asia, Africa and many other places to work in those extreme conditions.
Saudi Arabia is going to be a place where nobody will work or live and the wealth of Saudi Arabia will be left with mass graveyards all around them. No companies will be there other than the ones bought by the wealthy individuals of Saudi Arabia. They will buy themselves into a colossal ghost nation as nobody and nothing will ever be there long enough.
I have been following this project for a little over a year. I will definitely visit once it gets underway.
Its been underway for quite some time. You can't have been following it that closely if you don't know that.
@@cplcabs my bad, I meant to say almost finished. I learned about the project at least a year and a half ago or more when I first heard about it. Yes I was aware that the project has started already. Good catch.
What everybody seems to have missed, is that, apart from all the nice visuals, the ‘line’ is in effect 2 dimensional.
Just length and hight.
No width.
No exit.
If they were my ‘advisors’, I would fire them on the spot ‼️
No hesitation.
If you ever wanted to live in a shopping mall, the line is your place. How long will you last in a environment like that before depression and anxiety drives you mad. Not to long Im guessing. But to each their own.
I'm getting claustrophobic just watching this video. It will be a nightmare on the eyes after one day.
Make some more videos because these cities are fascinating.
The "Line" is out there thinking and very beautiful.
Build it and 9,000,000 people will come.
to the 'prison city of the desert'
Every legendery inventions once called a failure😊
The lie is taking shape 😅😅😅😂😂
The Line.....The World´s tallest skyscraper built horizontally. I hope the equally horizontal travelling lifts are damn fast!
There's no way they will do that till 2050... and they want to finish till 2030? 😁 Saudi... learn from your mistakes
All of that isn't getting built in 7 years lol.
No one is bigger than nature what we called God
I absolutely love the grand vision. Workable or not it is a spectacular idea.
Yeah, if you know nothing about anything.
Probably think Elon Musk is a genius, too, don't you?
@@pipster1891 he is
Some questions…..
How do you get in and out of it?
How do people and animals get past it?
What if a Haboob throws a big dune up against it or sand into it? And dulls the mirrors?
What if the power goes out? Where does it come from?
Where does the waste go?
How do deliveries get in?
Can the residents control the amount of tourists?
Are people now living in cities it crosses actually being executed for opposing it or not wanting to sell their property?
Is it possible for living things to be blinded by the mirror? Or burnt?
What will the rules be like?
How many people are interested in living there?
Who are the builders erecting this monolith?
Will everyone become nearsighted because you can’t ever look at distant objects?
What do environmental scientists think about it?
I’m tired of typing.
They tried the palms and it is sinking. Waste of time and resources.
A cross, a circle, a square, all these shapes would have been more practical than a line.
Such wasteful projects, and in a country rife with human rights violations. I believe most of these projects will be massively scaled down, and that's if they even continue to be built in a year or two. Consider what has happened to other wasteful projects like Jeddah tower
Wouldn't it be a great legacy to have lifted everyone in your country out of poverty and given everyone a feeling of purpose and a good education. To have students from all over the world want to come to your country to learn. They could probably do this for a fraction of the money being spent on the Line
Just handling the sewage from "The Line" will be an engineering nightmare. Add to that thing like food supply, and garbage disposal tells me that they will need at least three MASSIVE sub-levels to handle basic infra-structure support. They might replace the mirror walls with solar cells to help with reducing the environmental damage, but they will still need to add large animal pass through portals to allow for migrations. From what they are showing this thing is not even half though through and is mostly hype.
Waste of money that could be spend for poor people.
Yes, lifting the baseline of the existence of people living in the country would be more commendable than to raise the heights of luxury.
Is this THE bunker for the elites?
& how many labourers will the Corporation rip off to keep this sh!t goin’
If the power ever goes out on that Line, a lot of people are going to be baked, out in that desert.
Pure hubris. Pride goes before a fall.
good luck to the people that are going to be living in there. / Me I want to look at the vast empty terrain of land and breathe happy
Who'd a thunk Crystal Meth was in Saudi Arabia too...
Very cool video, thank you
I'm calling it a barrel bust project. Highly ambitious and prestigious - but too much to become a solid and lasting reality.