Water Module | Urban Bug Out Bag | Version 3.0
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Water is an important part of “The Big 3 of Survival” (Food, Water and Shelter). The human body can only survive three (3) days without water. For this Water Module, I wanted to leverage “The Rule of Three” with regard to water filtration/purification, storage and physical water. I have three methods of filtering water and three storage containers for the water. During an emergency situation, you can assume that some of your preparedness measures will fail you for whatever reason. If that were to happen, the rule of 3 would help ensure that you backup plan and your backup to the backup plan is still usable. I also wanted to make the gear for this module as light as possible, without sacrificing quality, since water itself is so heavy (e.g., 1 liter of water weighs 2.2 pounds / 1 kg). The system I have was designed to allow for many liters of water to be stored and little effort needed for the filtration process.
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What I've discovered in my longer off grid treks is that water filtration is a pain in the a$$. It can be very time consuming if a system isn't optimized and we'll thought out like you have here, especially for groups. Great job as usual, looking forward to seeing the full BOB
+Canadian Prepper I agree. I prefer dedicating that time to other things, especially in an emergency. Thanks for watching, CP!
Brilliant lightweight module. I'd go with the glass bottle. Best for long term storage, and as you're carrying only 2, not a huge compromise on weight. I'd only be worried about breakage, but you could double vacuum seal the bottle, to prevent any damage to your other gear.
I'm interested to know: Is there any reason why you're not using the Sawyer filter(s)?
Also: Carbon isn't really _"just for improving the teste"_. It's extremely valuable for removing chemical contaminants (or at least should be if it's any good).
And: Glass?!? O.o Seriously? Heavy and delicate. I don't get it.
Finally: Have you considered including a large polythene bag for transpiration collection from foliage and collection from rainfall in combination with a tarp?
Awesome! I'm a step-on beginner prepper, and this video opened my eyes to some points that I hadn't even considered to prep for. Thank you!
Great video. I've been doing this since the 70's and you gave me a couple new ideas I'm going to use. Keep up the great work.
Very nice setup! Like that one bag says 'DIRTY', pretty helpful, actually. Really, really enjoy this setup. Love this water module, well thought out and pretty simple, too, nothing too complicated. Thank you!
Nice background at the start of the video!!!!, I agree with canadian prepper regarding to the water filtration and purifying issue.
Hey Cliff, great review and some great gear there. As you mentioned, it wouldn't be very effective to try to boil water in a double walled steel container by putting it in a fire. However, if you find yourself in a situation where all you have is a double-walled stainless thermos or water bottle or even a travel mug, or something that cannot take direct flame for boiling, don't think you have to drink dirty water. Remember that water can also be boiled by immersion. Using clean stones or even pieces of non-galvanized or non-coated steel or iron heated in the fire, you can drop these into your water and very quickly bring it to a boil. Be careful not to gather stones from a waterway, though, because they can contain pockets of moisture that can cause the stone to explode when heated in the fire. Nothing worse than stone-age popcorn to ruin your campfire.
+Whoozerdaddy i had no idea interesting!
Good point! I saw that tactic used on a Naked & Afraid. Very cool.
I would never have a glass container in my BOB. Too heavy and prone to breaking, no saying what else those glass shards may damage, including your bag. And with all your items I don't think you need it. Chances are you will find other bottles in an urban environment that could be made relatively safe to drink from with the purification pills.
Only trouble is the chemicals from plastic bottles can leach into the water during long term storage. No amount of purification tablets or filtering can clean that out, I'm not even sure boiling would work, and it kind of defeats the point of having water available immediately . 😃
+Adam Bates You should refresh or rotate the water you store (in your BOB) regularly anyway. So that shouldn't be an issue.
+Dronston true
Aluminum and Polypropylene don't leach they're lighter than glass!
I love that guyot bottle. That's the one I carry. Along with a life straw and a bladder. Great vid, brother.
Nice info, thank you.
At our house we have been distilling water in the yard with a hole filled with vegetation, plastic sheeting, and a little weight/stone to direct the water into a container. It works, but it's slow.
Good advice TUP. Is there a one drink solution where I don't have to think about what's in the water? I want to be able to find any source semi-clear water, gather, filter and drink without worrying about chemicals, microbes, bacteria, parasites, etc.
Is this in addition to your H2Go bag? I notice some of these items are already in the H2Go bag.
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Hiya TUp, seems like a good system, i like how most of it is light weight and the thoughts behind the gravity filter, as well as having actual water 'on board'. Couple of points of feedback to possibly help you along: ... 1. The 3 gallons for 72h I think is mostly when considering a 'Bug In' scenario, as the amount is based upon 'normal' usage... 2. Deciding between Glass/Plastic water bottles: A. Would you want to walk around with glass in your Bugout bag, that is fragile in nature; B. More important perhaps, view it in light of your rotation system, in your food preps you say you need to at least rotate out the snack module, is it a lot to ask to also replace your water once a year? (meaning, if you have to go into the bag anyways, might as well factor that into your system)... 3. When you start to assemble your Clothing module (and perhaps some other modules, electronics perhaps) you may want to consider packing them into (a) 'water proof 5l bag(s)', giving you another way to carry water to your site, and/or give you some protection when carrying the dirty water bag. (though more likely you will want to take 4liter more, in the 5l bag so that you can fill up the dirty water bag, as that filter will likely also need the pressure besides the gravity to feed all the water through it, considering it's something like a 1micron filter)... 4. The active carbon filter is mostly for chemical contamination (herbicides, pesticides, other chemical stuff -> which includes funky taste molecules), the carbon is 'active' in a sense that a wide variety of these molecules bind to the carbon chemically, and thus do not end up in your drinking water. The kind of water you use, mainly surface water in rivers, or irrigation streams in agricultural areas are likely to have these kinds of contaminants. Seeing you are in an urban setting, you might want to consider actually having two of them (perhaps), and use a vacuum sealer to make sure they do not degrade (the degradation comes from just normal air-born molecules (smog f/e) to chemically bind to the carbon making it so that no other chemical can bind there)... 5. I like how, despite all your preps, you still took some purification tabs. Though I think that the most likely use for them will be to purify water 'on the go', mainly you can fill up all the containers (until viable carry weight), toss in the pills, and 'get moving with Oprah'... ...6. The safest way for water purification (according to various health organizations) is to filter and boil the water, seeing that chemicals only filter out by active-carbon filtering (as 1micron is still huge compared to most chemical molecules) it is something to take into consideration. Again though, the source of water you use will obviously play a part there too... ...7. Great setup, just wanted to mention that at the end, because this long comment may (prevent people from reading all of it, as it's longer than a twitter message) lead some to conclude I dislike it, while in fact I do like it (also considering I seen your home preps video's when it comes to water :) ...
I've been trying to figure out if certain water bottle shapes are better than others for this scenario. Like, if the Voss bottle shape has any advantages/disadvantages vs the Dasani or other typical bottle shapes in regards to storage capacity in limited packs or for transport. The Voss bottle for example has a uniform shape that can slide through a pack more readily than say a Dasani bottle whose neck might snag on things. Some of that may be an advantage in one sense while being the opposite in another. Do certain shapes like a square Fiji bottle nest in a bug out bag better due to its shape or is it all really nothing? A lot of times I find that a water bottle will shift around inside a pack and be annoying or work its way to the bottom and be difficult to extract without removing a lot of other contents just to get to it. As far as repurposing things, regular shapes can be repurposed as funnels or other types of containers like cups and the bottles shape can help or hinder that.
Good video. I would try "blue can" water source for B.O.B. Would add a coffee filter to the netting, less grit. Another trick is to cache 5 gallon water containers on your escape route. Less weight for BOB.
Cliff bro, you keep embarrassing my preparations! Not that I mind though, learning a LOT! :) I love the platypus, but in the UK the cost is a little bit high £84 pounds about $127, strangely the filter is £111 to replace about $168. I think I may invest in one for an overseas expedition though, although I think I will still use the Katadyn Vario as a primary & the GravityWorks for a camp based application. Looking forward to the following videos. Warm regards. DisabledPrepper
I wanna move to that city lol you did another awesome video. Hopefully our preps never have to be used but if it does hopefully we did all could.!
Any update on the UV filter long term use on killing the nasty's ? All water storage containers have same cap for sealing or filling the container. At the White Sands National Monument (WSNM) summer 2015 a French got lost and past and the toddler barely survived from lack of water. Also remember the kids plastic toboggan to go down the dunes. Your setup is great for a fixed camp but for on the move : Hiker Pro pump, tablets and if have CR123 batteries then the UV purifier after filtering (for one liter containers). How is the old BOB water system holding up ? Thank you for the video ! tjl
I'm interested have you taken out your bug out bag and camped out for a few days to see how well everything works? I know you have a family, so I'm sure getting time to do that would be hard.
The Platypus system looks like a great idea.
Have you had any GI tract issues when using a water filtration system?
Holy shit, that's a good module... A-a-and now I'll have to go over my own, Thanks!
I have two questions: 1: How many purification tabs do you carry in your bag? And a question just for my personal curiosity: What's that watch you're wearing in the video.
I carry a sheet usually, which I imagine is 10-12 tablets. Two sheets might be better. The watch is made by Movado. It was an anniversary present from my wife.
Thanks. Found that out later about the watch. Still watching your videos. I am already back in 2012
Loving the new series.
Why are comments disabled on the 3.0 food module video?
Any reason you chose not to include the Blue Can water you did a review on a few weeks ago instead of the glass or plastic bottles? Non reusable container?
Excellent vid as always TUP!
+Cyclops Triceratops Yeah, I liked the idea of being able to reuse the bottles for more water storage. That's the only reason why. I am definitely planning on using the Blue Can Water in several projects, namely survival caches.
+TheUrbanPrepper Thanks TUP!
Oh Idk if I ever ask you but what do you think will happen or a best guess... I think we will experience a few events because 1 of any we could get through so EMP economic collapse and some small attacks idk how but that's what I see coming if anything..
I would recommend the square Fiji water bottles they pack well and last along time. I've washed the ones I had several times.
+Nathan Robinson Good tip! Also, they won't roll.
+TheUrbanPrepper also if you didn't know they come in liter sizes so its easy to get the right amount of water
Cliff, an outstanding video and thank you. Cheers, Mate.
+Jack Walsh Thanks a bunch, Jack! How are you doing?
+TheUrbanPrepper Cliff, I'm doing well and always looking to improve on prepping gear.
The associated skills, and maintaining readiness for the same. Thank you for asking.
Keep the awesome videos coming.
Great kit ✊🏾 How does it take to filter those 4L?
Cliff, four of the nine item titles in the pdf are not live links. Is that intentional?
+05generic Thanks for the heads up! Not sure what happened. Fixed. Uploaded new PDF with working links (I hope).
Great water it like the filter system that is pretty slick atb John
such a great video and example for beginners such as myself! I'm having a hard time organizing everything in my BOB. this helped a lot with the "Water Module" system. Which in fact I'm implementing lol hope you don't mind lol And to top it all off you create a PDF! your awesome dude
What does that particular carbon filter filter out particularly? (Ha, see what I did there?)
I'm trying to figure out a way to filter creek water from my backyard to make it potable. The issue I'm having with it is that it is at the bottom of a gully, with rain run off flowing into it from all of the houses around us. I know that I can treat it for bacteria and viruses with chemicals and boiling, but I'd like to find a filter that can aide in getting out the rest of the funky nasty stuff.
I know I can distill it, but wood is a resource I'd rather save for my woodstove.
Sawyer Products Select Series Filter and Purifier with micro squeeze filter S3. Seems to be rated for what you may need on a very small scale. However, the concentrations of contaminates will greatly affect the life span. I've seen carbon filters on house systems concentrate volatile organic compounds (VOCs) like gasoline and solvents. Meaning that when the filter became saturated with the contaminant, the filter actually released even higher concentrations of the contaminants then was seen in the groundwater. FYI..The published info doesn't indicate if they filter out fertilizers. This may be the most likely contaminant in your area. Need to check further upstream for any other potential sources of contamination if chemical spills are a concern. For myself, I've planned on using rainwater collection systems in conjunction with Berkey (or like product) for long term grid down scenarios. Hopefully, rainwater collection is not illegal where you live.
Misster tyvek and ultralight weight here. Have multiple clear thin 12-16 oz plastic water drinking bottles with caps, can be flattened and rolled up for space, or totally long and flat. They can be used with a solar UV irradiation sterilization process, atop a reflective 2-3 x 2-3 ft mylar film, put atop a mylar cathole solar oven, or put into a regular solar oven, and UV irradiate the buggers. I would have 1-2 tyvek shopping carry bags, ~1 gallon size. All easily folded and small storage volume: water carry and water cistern. Have clear/black plastic "secure duct taped seams" garbage bags, for water carry or water cistern inside tyvek carry bag. Having boil in/boilable bags with ziplocks, you can put these in your small water ruck, or into the tyvek as a mobile water carry, cathole water cistern, for water relocation and purification later. Can also be hot rocked or smaller water bottle purification/irradiation in your hidey/bug. The duct taped tyvek postal envelope (flat) is now known to be 0.5-1.0 micron pore olefin fiber mesh weave water filtration (99.99+% pure). DIY MYOG tyvek film mini-tarp 3x3 ft, folded and sewn edges. and 4 corner grommets. Tarp is horizontally put atop 4 firmly planted upright stakes, and a water catchment container underneath. Pour in dirty water onto large filtration tarp. Gravity-fed. All ultralight, foldable, small volume. Tarp easily hot water boiled (or solar UV irradiated) for purity. All items as small and ultralight weight as space blankets.
I kind of get annoyed that every prepper says you can survive 3 days without water. That isn't entirely true. Where I live, the desert part of the southwest, a good portion of the year you really won't survive 3 days without water. I understand that 3 days is true for most of your audience. But what if you are traveling during the summer in the desert when SHTF. You would think 3 days while your body is severely dehydrated in 3 hours.
I don't expect you to give desert survivor advice but at least mention that you need to take location and temps in consideration.
Here in the desert your top priority in a shtf is to have water...
That's definitely true. In the intro video I tried to state this with regard to designing an emergency kit based on your specific region. I forgot to include that footnote in this particular video. I'll make sure to remember for the final BOB video.
+TheUrbanPrepper Thank you! BTW do love your videos. Please keep up the good work in providing great info...
I would extend on that and every time someone says you can go three weeks without eating isn't necessarily right either. Depending on your physical health someone may be able to last much long without food or far less. A diabetic for instance may die without food within days, someone held up in a much more mountainous area or walking long distance in rough weather may not survive more than a week without food.
Finite Wehosh So true, I am a big gal and I could probably go 3 - 4 month on my fat storage alone. My youngest wouldn't barely make 3 weeks since she is just naturally thin.
Another great useful vid. Thanks!
Hm...the gravity filter is nice if you are stationary, but for filtering on the go something like a Lifestraw from Vestergaard (note: I am not a sales-rep for that company) is much better (combine it with wide-necked water bottles, like say from Nalgene) and they aren't all that expensive so every person in a group can have their own or if can spend some more money:
A Lifestraw Steel (this one comes with a charcoal (hm...my translation site isn't sure if it's charcoal or carbon - is that the same?) capsule that can help filter out some stuff like industrial fertilizer...those are also cheap and easy to replace, so you can carry extras if you truly need to filter water for a longer time!)
Hell, maybe even a Sawyer Squeeze (you can put that on cheap plastic bottles, if the folding bottles it comes with get damaged!) :)
Also: Those bags from the gravity filter are too easy to damage IMHO...same goes for the hydration bladder...I'll stick with Nalgenes and a filter (can use that on the go and can top of the bottles every chance I get!)
BUG OUT BAG TIME=GREAT VIDEO
Another great video !!!!
what is the name of that hat you are wearing? here in my country we call it "boina" but as you might guess there is no known translation (at least to me) and i want to buy some from internet
nevermind, turns out boina isnt spanish but portugese. its a barret, thanks anyway, great vid
The specific one I have is a Kangol cap. You should be able to get one from Amazon.
great video (as usual) now you just wiped a new module container on us.. Maybe if you have time a review on it. eagle creek vs eBags...
The glass bottle makes me nervous…great video.
put the long tube on the dirty water bag to increase water pressure to make for faster filtration
The Gravityworks system is the right idea, but you should at least replace their filter with the Sawyer Mini. Though, their Point Zero TWO system is the best gravity based filter available.
Great video. I think a glass bottle may have more functionally than a plastic one. Water can be boiled in glass. Glass can be smashed and formed into arrow heads or a cutting edge for gutting a fish for example. It can also be used to sharpen tools. The weight is a pain though. Thanks for sharing.
FEMA recommends 1 gallon of water per person, per day. But they do state that is for drinking and sanitation uses.
The U.S. army requires soldiers to carry 1 liter of water per soldier, per day for drinking purposes.
the U.S. health department has said that you should drink between 0.5 Oz and 1 Oz of water per pound you weigh, which averages out to 2.7-5.9 liters of water per person, per day for adults.
From what I've come up with research wise is that a healthy adult should drink a minimum 1 liter of liquid water outside of food and other drinks to avoid dehydration.
My personal testing as a 180-ish pound, 21 year old male, with a moderate exercise routine, I need 2.6 liters of water on average to not suffer from headaches, physical or mental impairment in any two week stretch.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Great stuff Cliff
Nice approach....
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Gotsta buy me the platypus and more than one water filter/ carrier. !Thanks again man !
how would you rate the platypus to say a sawyer or life straw
+Daniel Barrett I absolutely love it. It's always the big hit during camping trips.
Thank you, for enabling comments :) .
keeping a glass bottle of water in your bug out bag is pretty dumb, in a situation where you are bugging out why would you want to risk it smashing and most likely damaging other things in your bag
I would say that fire is more important than shelter.
Cmon dude glass? Thats a rookie mistake. Youre a 3x veteran in this lol
Haha... Well, I do wear glasses too instead of plastic lenses. I've been using a glass Takeya water bottle for EDC the last year without issue. That said, my new Bug Out Bag is using plastic bottles and I'm leaning more towards glass for survival caches.
Huh Takeya water bottle. Ive never heard about it before gonna google it later. Btw Voss is for poor people just like Fiji water those 2 are nothing compared to Kirkland water lol jk
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+david gierszewski Geeze! Nice David!
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+TheUrbanPrepper Ballard in seattle
'degridating'? I know you mean degrading
grates on me, LOL,
like 'orirntating' a new employee, vs 'orienting' them
Yep. I heard that too. I didn't want to refilm after hearing it during editing. Now I have to live with the mess up for the life of the video. :(
3 days, HA, you should try it, go 3 days without water.
+Paracord Artistry Why would I want to do that?
I'm interested have you taken out your bug out bag and camped out for a few days to see how well everything works? I know you have a family, so I'm sure getting time to do that would be hard.
I'm interested have you taken out your bug out bag and camped out for a few days to see how well everything works? I know you have a family, so I'm sure getting time to do that would be hard.