We have a look at top end Starrett jeweled dial indicators and compare to the Mitutoyo non-jeweled. We also test the Harbor Freight style cheap ones. 🔥STICKERS! www.etsy.com/c... 🔥
The ladies, they never called twice They'd complain that it didn't "look nice" They'd say "it'll do in a pinch but you're losing an inch" So I straightened it out in the vise!
Barking up the wrong tree laddy. Dave lives in the land down under. You gotta pm him your limerick... or send some smoke signals.... bounce em of the ionosphere.... punch some holes in the ozone layer... I can keep going...
I think Tom's hammers are a bit inspirational at this point, it's like "hey, come work for a science lab and you too can afford to indulge two addictions at once. As long as one of them is science".
Or multimeters. Or lab power supplies. I've got a 1.0V rail, 1.8V, 2.5V, 3.3V, 5V, -5V, 15V, & -15V in one project. FPGA + op amps + comparator + transistors + ADC = lots of supply rails.
Sup lads. I had to fix the Miti. I thought I'd make a VJO about it for guys like me who aren't K-Fen Noga 4 jaw super setter uppersl. The extra $150 it costs to go from Harbor Freight quality to Mitutoyo quality isn't worth it. Unless you are feeding a tool fetish, which, I am.
I buy measuring tools, I buy Mitutoyo. Never regretted a single purchase, the micrometers I bought from them 47 years ago still measure dead nuts accurate.
Dear AVE I am currently suffering from pneumonia and feel as if I am dying but when my phone dinged with a notification saying you uploaded I was cured who knew that a middle aged Canadian with the mind of a immature teenage would be better than antibiotics. Not all heroes wear capes. Ed
I just wanted say thank you AvE for making great videos. I enjoyed getting to share your videos with my Dad, but he passed away 3 weeks ago. Thanks for entertaining us and giving me something that reminds me of my Dad and makes me laugh too. I need it.
Love how they've used concepts from watchmaking to make the mechanisms. The bridge-plate construction and the set rubies to reduce friction. Rubies like that are usually used on the high wear points like balance wheel (the oscillator) in mechanical watches, mostly as a bushing. They make lubrication easier and increase the service period of the watch significantly. In watches, it also means that the ruby can be replaced once it is worn, instead of having to hand machine and replace an entire metal plate.Also, the friction coefficient of this setup is very low, which means much less energy is required to turn the gear that the rubies bear. Super cool innovations from over a 150 years ago. Still going strong.
I'm still thrilled that I picked up about a grand of starrett and mitutoyo indicators, v blocks, and mics for $20! Estate sales for the win! One of the indicators I picked up is that same starrett 196 with all of the hardware. Poor thing is missing it's crystal, but it works beautifully
They're also very useful (probably necessary) for tapers if you've got a taper attachment on your lathe. You should have used a dial indicator to dial in the straightness of that dial indicator. As for the "which one to buy" argument, I think if there is ANYWHERE you are going to splurge on and spend the big bucks it has to be with precision instruments. All your cuts and turns and the likes can be done on any machine and those machines can be tweaked or your cuts can be corrected, but if your measuring instruments are wrong then everything that goes out of your shop is wrong. It's best to get something that is built right and built to last.
We had a pair of mitutoyo calipers in our machine shop class, they were acquired in 1976 (according to the electropencil) and it definitely was worth the money I'm guessing. 40 years later they had a accuracy of about .005 which I think is pretty good for being manhandled by multiple students.
Yea the tip area on the main jaws are only for very sensitive parts. 90% of the time you want to put the part in the flat part close to the long body. If you always use the flat jaw tips to measure you can damage the tips, which can lead to burrs that bend inwards and mess up the clean flats. Also the jaws can become loose if you put a lot of pressure on that part repeatedly.
I was proudly wearing my Skookum as Frig shirt at Epcot last Monday. I found another AvE fan who commented on how much we liked your channel. Keep up the great work.
Back in the days of Enco, you could nab a pretty decent SPI dial indicator that weren't near as crunchy as the HF equivalent, but was still in the same price range. Also, quit dickin around with those thirteen knob indicator holders and at least get the small Noga. Unless you like handling knobs. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I just have to say man...I just realized, as a maker, builder, tinkererer, whatever you want to call it, a person who has always been interested in how all mechanical things chooch... this is by FAR my favorite channel on all of the u tubes.....
I got a 'broken' Mitutoyo from a company that was moving to Colorado some years back. I took it apart and couldn't figure out how to fix it, but dropped some oil on the pinion shaft. That didn't seem to help, but when I went back to er a week later, she worked like a charm. Thanks for showing me around the clockworks inside, maybe now in the future I can make sense of the gears in there!
For accuracy you should always measure on the flats of the caliper jaws as close to the slide as possible. Out at the blades there is deflection which can cause the measurement to read undersized; but you already knew that, you were just seeing if we were paying attention! ;-)
Ya DO want your head half a blonde one out of tram leaning topwards to the left. Something as close to tram as you can get but erring that way. Say half a thou over a 18" swing is nice. That way when you cut right to left (that way that throws chips away from you) you don't drag the heal of the cutter. Better finish.
One note: At 5:55, you refer to the jewel as "carborundum". But you correct that at about 12:00. Rubies (synthetic or real) are corundum, which is aluminum oxide. Carborundum is silicon carbide. Both are really hard compounds, but different.
Man, those tools bring back memories from my fitter apprenticeship back in the 90's ('93-'96). Still have my trusty old Mitutoyo Vernier caliper from back then. Just can't let the ol' girl go. :)
One tip: when you have an indicator that for some reason is reacting slowly or seeming to hang up a little, take a clean dry cloth and carefully and thoroughly wipe the indicator stem off being sure to move it all the way in and clean the other end as well... it takes barely a microscopic amount of residue or oil to make them become sluggish, cleaning with dry clean cloth will help.
Maybe even more important next to 'slop' is the hysteresis (not the same thing) That means that you will get a different reading if you go back instead of forth. For that reason in some very precise projects you can only go forward (also on a lathe), because if you go back, the actual distance is different. Seen many people making this mistake actually, can't emphasis this enough.
AvE I would love one of those toolbox stickers I'm in the south arm of Ontario.i have wasted hundreds of hours watching all your vidjayos and that stick-her would make it all work while lmfao plz let me know how I can give you my address....
slight correction, dial indicators are more accurate for linear measurement than test indicators, because of cosine error on the test indicators. testers tend to be more sensitive for comparative measurement (did I center the thing in the chuck?), but the dial indicator is better for absolute measurement (how far did I move the axis). you can buy 0.00005" graduated plunger type dial indicators too though. Like you said, depends on what you're up to.
8:22, I thought, "My word, Ave has gone all Carrot top prop gag on the viewers" But NO, there really is a Power Fist brand! :-) :-) :-)"Hey Earl, would you mind giving me the power fist over here?"
I have only just discovered this channel because we only just have been given permission to have the internets here in the U.K. I love the humour of your antics but at the same time find I'm learning lots while I'm laughing too. Please keep up the shananighins and best wishes for the skookum. Keith Billinge United peoples kingdom of britbekistan.
You my friend, are the most smartest man in the world...well, TH-cam world. Why? Because of your INCREDIBLE 'slang' for all 'bad words', YT's analytics, they'll never catch you and demonetize your vidjeos! Awesome sir...that you saw this coming YEARS ago!
Used a dial indicator to set the thrust lash on a VW air cooled engine crankshaft. As this was eons ago IIRC it was set using shims behind the pulley. I don't think they were on the flywheel end. If you didn't have enough lash, it would bind. Too much would bang the bearings resulting in oil migration to the driveway causing consternation from others in the household. The main bearing on the generator pulley end had a spiral in it to spin the oil back into the engine. It was how the bearing was lubricated, by slopping oil into it from the crank splashing it around from the sump and the spiral keeping it from escaping to the wild beyond and your garage floor or driveway. Magnificent tool for specific applications. IIRC my father borrowed it from work and it was made by Starrett - this was over 40 years ago.
Remarkable coinkidink, I had to peek under the skirt of a Mitu I inherited from my uncle not so much as a week ago. Last calibrated in '86, seems it just has some schmoo gumming up the works, got it cleaned and working like new. You just can't beat a quality tool.
In 1965 I was in jr high shop class and loved it, but we did not measure things but with a ruler. In 2000 I bankrolled a machine shop. That inventory told me what to buy to set up my own shop. I got indicators and calipers. ~~2005 my cousin got a patent on Mitutoyo coolant proof calipers [like shown in video]. I have never designed a phase detector with good amplitude immunity, but it seems my cousin did. He says he used 3 phase, but I don't see how that alone would work so well.
Just a tip from someone who used to repair camcorders: Get yourself some cross point screwdrivers for those tiny Japanesium screws. Sure a 00 Phillips will do in a pinch, but using the correct driver makes it so much easier. The screw actually sticks on the tip with no wobble which makes losing the screw a lot less likely. The screw will fit tight enough that you can pick the screwdriver up with the screw.
The gridy grindy noise on the power fister is caused by having the pinion to rack mesh too tight. Ease up on the mesh and it will run smoother. Its a common fault in any brand of indicator if it has been dropped or abused. Speaking of which whats with the angled return spring pin on the S and the M indicators? Shurely it ought to be at 90 degrees.
Yep! Measure in as close to the base of the jaws as you can. The tip is handy but not for every day use. They might not be the most accurate things in the world, but at least show how to use them right! And +Andrew Delashaw look at Keith Fenner's video 'No Stinking Indicators' They are handy, but not needed. :)
Thanks for the video - nostalgia full! When I was studying mechanical engineering at college we only ever used mechanical measuring instruments such as dial gauges, micrometers and calipers. Also used vernier height gauges. I don't think the digital ones were available then - at least not cost effective for our college to buy!
That sticker would keep the choochers out of my box. Grizzly, they're just a hop over the 49th for me, so I've got some, but I hear you on the QC. More like Q-outa-C. You gotta check everything before you leave the store, I've returned more than one item without even leaving the lot.
those EDGE technologies protram for tramming the head are pretty handy. The cool kids are using Noga bases now too, one handle and all the adjustment points come loose.
Whenever we received micrometers that had been dropped and the spindle was bent we would fix it with a few love taps of a rawhide mallet, followed by the usual cal.
"My tools bite"? a perfect reference for my dirtcheap, no shield, jerky-goddamn-button-not-staying-on-being-to-close-to-the-wheel, angle grinder! The stik-her would stick noycely on my '63 Plymouth suicidelator as well!
took some time away from playing with the angry wall fairies to watch yet another informative AVE vidjayo. the sticker sure does look good and would like to add one to my tool box.
I needed a dial indicator for a small projects a few weeks back. Ended up buying a craptastic no-name from fleaBay. This video made me feel a lot better about it. It looks like even the cheap ones are about the same on the inside. Although actually the one I got is all aluminum (crown, bezel, backplate, etc.). At least on the outside.
Now i want a dial indicator, even though i don't have a lathe or any other practical use for it at the moment.... One of those stickers would also be most welcome. Interesting video as always, i always wondered how those things worked, but never took the time to find out until now.
Sometimes in avionic when using syncros they have a double gear there have a spring so the teeth a tight against its other. That seems to work perfect against backlash.
Hi AvE, thank you for all good videos you did over the years. I enjoy them very much. Shame that I have no time to watch them more. Good luck to you and your family. Stay skoocum :)
One of those stickers would fit right in on my toolbox. I'd have to get it greasy first, though. Gotta make it fit in with the old man's stickers from when he started wrenching in the 70s.
3:49 AYYYYY I just learned how to do that today! was a bit of a pain but i got er good. the Machine tool technology class has not officially started so they have been letting me get a leg up on everything. the math is killin me.
I just watched a pile of thisoldtony's vidjayos where he is using dial indicators to make precision parts. interesting to see how these things actually work.
The only lubrication for the inner workings of a dial indicator is RONSONOL lighter fluid. It's made in Bradford, Pennsylvania. Try it, you'll like it!
I have a dial indicator graduated to half a tenth. I haven't checked if it's really that accurate (not sure how I would), but there are VERY accurate dial indicators.
I know you already "fixed" it, but Keith Rucker from VintageMachinery uses a fella in Illinois that restores and repairs these dial indicators. Keith did a video on the before an after of this dial indicators and said they came back looking like brand new tools for a very cheap price.
Had a cheep Chinesium dial indicator on a MightyMag for situations where you'd want to use the paper plates instead of the good china, oxymoron intended. Some fleet-footed tool grabber absconded with it and promptly reduced it to it's full potential, broken. Upon full confession, without even having to waterboard them, I only lashed them verbally to within 7/8 of and inch of their life. My leniency not being due to any flaw in my character but to the fact that the convicted took breaker bought his way out of debtor prison by paying me off with a nearly perfect Federal indicator of comparable range. I'm normally touchy about my tools but this incident had several dividends, my outrage was loud and public so few dared to borrow tools after that, the Federal became my go-to for precise measurement, and eventually the tool breaker became one of my minions because I performed a "miracle" by fixing several of their tools including that POS indicator.
[02/25/22] At school they issued us with some Chinese-made Asimeto instruments. Way better than Princess Auto, but not quite Starrett, or Mitutoyo. Also for price/performance, the Mitutoyo are a better deal because they're NOT as over-priced as Starrett can be.
It's my form of meditation tuning in to Uncle AvE while at the same time tuning out from the world. Content is always informative, definitely educative, and never fails to deliver laughs even more-so with the witty vernacular. Great stuff Ave! As always it's a laugh, immensely relaxing, and a privilege to share in the shop time with ya tackling the project of the day! //keep your drink on ice *random curious question, but are you located in Saskatchewan by any chance? I'm English but I'm subscribed to a few blokes' channels who are based in Saskatchewan, and man I can't tell you the urge I get to emigrate watching them outdoors in the great wilderness that is their back yard. Peace ✌️
I used to do some work for Rolls Royce cars, back in the 80's. I was told that Sid, or whatever his name, wasn't allowed to use any measurement gadget whatsoever in placing those slats onto the impressive Palladian inspired radiator. Any slight measurement error would look terrible so they eyeballed them. Then there was George. He was locked in the trunk while someone drove the car so he could listen for squeaks and rattles. I jest ye not.
wish some of those stickers could make their way to northern ireland, I have been inspired by the likes of AvE and the machinists on YT and put down my gaming gloves and made it back into the workshop. I have seriously learned how to tig weld and use a lathe and mill from YT videos. Small vids on my channel to prove.
BY THE POWER OF ODIN, this man seems to KNOW his STUFF!!! Tryin ta git my poor `ole grey haired pappy to check this guy out, he doesn't like ANYBODY, ... but I'll betcha a moose he'd dig this guy, Good stuff AvE, keep it comin.
I found a set of vintage micrometers in my late fathers tools I inherited. They look like they have only been taken out of the case 3 times. 4 when I looked at them. They look like the day they were packed at the shop that made them. 1" 2" And I think a 4" set
Rolls-Royce PLC use Mitiyoto to measures all internal components of their Trent engines. Heck, they even use em in the apprentice workshops where I'm in at the moment.
I was saying the other day that I need to buy one or two of these. The dial indicators, not the stickers. Although I do need to start customizing the ol' tool box. It's bare naked and sad, like me on a Saturday night.
AvE you should know about Abbe's principle when using vernier calipers at 1:05, rookie move, something a second year toolmaker would do. You should always measure as close to the measuring axis as possible or you will experience sine error especially when using those gorilla hands.
The ladies, they never called twice
They'd complain that it didn't "look nice"
They'd say "it'll do in a pinch
but you're losing an inch"
So I straightened it out in the vise!
hahah. PM me your addy please Jeremy. I'll send you stickers.
Best thing I've seen all day!
Barking up the wrong tree laddy. Dave lives in the land down under. You gotta pm him your limerick... or send some smoke signals.... bounce em of the ionosphere.... punch some holes in the ozone layer... I can keep going...
+Jeremy, LOL! Excellent!
AvE would you ever do a how to Bridgeport for beginners video? I'm sure there's videos out right now but your explanations are always great.
nice fix on the indicator! and no, can never have too many. like hammers. except for that Tom fellow, maybe... that might be intervention territory.
I think Tom's hammers are a bit inspirational at this point, it's like "hey, come work for a science lab and you too can afford to indulge two addictions at once. As long as one of them is science".
"Tom Lipton's Hammers" sounds like some kind of post-ironic electropunk band or whatever they're doing with the beep boop music these days.
Or multimeters. Or lab power supplies. I've got a 1.0V rail, 1.8V, 2.5V, 3.3V, 5V, -5V, 15V, & -15V in one project. FPGA + op amps + comparator + transistors + ADC = lots of supply rails.
Don't know who Tom is, but Jimmy Diresta has a pretty obnoxious hammer collection. Too many, I might even say.
oh look! Old tony is here! Thought you teleported to other timeline or something :P
"He who dies with the most tools, win."
Sup lads. I had to fix the Miti. I thought I'd make a VJO about it for guys like me who aren't K-Fen Noga 4 jaw super setter uppersl. The extra $150 it costs to go from Harbor Freight quality to Mitutoyo quality isn't worth it. Unless you are feeding a tool fetish, which, I am.
I'll show you a fetish
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lol
AvE hazard fraught has "good enough" tools as long as you know the limitations lol
AvE hey man, i was just about to think you where starting to get roomtempered, or something, long time no see. good vjo!!
I buy measuring tools, I buy Mitutoyo. Never regretted a single purchase, the micrometers I bought from them 47 years ago still measure dead nuts accurate.
Dear AVE I am currently suffering from pneumonia and feel as if I am dying but when my phone dinged with a notification saying you uploaded I was cured who knew that a middle aged Canadian with the mind of a immature teenage would be better than antibiotics. Not all heroes wear capes.
Ed
How do ya know he doesn't wear a cape? Just sayin'
981porsche Not a good idear to wear a cape around large machining devices.
@@YoCatGaming that all depends on where you attach it. Might get away with calling it a craftsman's apron.
I just wanted say thank you AvE for making great videos. I enjoyed getting to share your videos with my Dad, but he passed away 3 weeks ago. Thanks for entertaining us and giving me something that reminds me of my Dad and makes me laugh too. I need it.
James Strickland I just lost my mother. I know your pain. Take care dude! Remember we gotta keep their memories alive.
Love how they've used concepts from watchmaking to make the mechanisms. The bridge-plate construction and the set rubies to reduce friction. Rubies like that are usually used on the high wear points like balance wheel (the oscillator) in mechanical watches, mostly as a bushing. They make lubrication easier and increase the service period of the watch significantly. In watches, it also means that the ruby can be replaced once it is worn, instead of having to hand machine and replace an entire metal plate.Also, the friction coefficient of this setup is very low, which means much less energy is required to turn the gear that the rubies bear. Super cool innovations from over a 150 years ago. Still going strong.
I do not have wife, but i have 5 dial indicators and no lathe or mill yet.
You' re on the right path!
milosevicnenad1993 I have the same problem I have 2 dial indicators no lathe or mill yet can't find one at a decent price that's not all clapped out
milosevicnenad1993 you got a great icon too (or whatever those little images by the name are called).
AvE You lead the right way!
You're doing well, you're doing the right thing.
I'm still thrilled that I picked up about a grand of starrett and mitutoyo indicators, v blocks, and mics for $20! Estate sales for the win! One of the indicators I picked up is that same starrett 196 with all of the hardware. Poor thing is missing it's crystal, but it works beautifully
Also, in the doobly doo for a shticker
They're also very useful (probably necessary) for tapers if you've got a taper attachment on your lathe.
You should have used a dial indicator to dial in the straightness of that dial indicator.
As for the "which one to buy" argument, I think if there is ANYWHERE you are going to splurge on and spend the big bucks it has to be with precision instruments. All your cuts and turns and the likes can be done on any machine and those machines can be tweaked or your cuts can be corrected, but if your measuring instruments are wrong then everything that goes out of your shop is wrong. It's best to get something that is built right and built to last.
We had a pair of mitutoyo calipers in our machine shop class, they were acquired in 1976 (according to the electropencil) and it definitely was worth the money I'm guessing. 40 years later they had a accuracy of about .005 which I think is pretty good for being manhandled by multiple students.
When measuring with calipers, always insert the test piece as far into the jaws as possible.
Yea the tip area on the main jaws are only for very sensitive parts. 90% of the time you want to put the part in the flat part close to the long body. If you always use the flat jaw tips to measure you can damage the tips, which can lead to burrs that bend inwards and mess up the clean flats. Also the jaws can become loose if you put a lot of pressure on that part repeatedly.
I was proudly wearing my Skookum as Frig shirt at Epcot last Monday. I found another AvE fan who commented on how much we liked your channel. Keep up the great work.
Back in the days of Enco, you could nab a pretty decent SPI dial indicator that weren't near as crunchy as the HF equivalent, but was still in the same price range.
Also, quit dickin around with those thirteen knob indicator holders and at least get the small Noga.
Unless you like handling knobs. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I just have to say man...I just realized, as a maker, builder, tinkererer, whatever you want to call it, a person who has always been interested in how all mechanical things chooch... this is by FAR my favorite channel on all of the u tubes.....
I got a 'broken' Mitutoyo from a company that was moving to Colorado some years back. I took it apart and couldn't figure out how to fix it, but dropped some oil on the pinion shaft. That didn't seem to help, but when I went back to er a week later, she worked like a charm. Thanks for showing me around the clockworks inside, maybe now in the future I can make sense of the gears in there!
As my son says, when it comes to tools: "Buy once, cry once". I totally agree.
For accuracy you should always measure on the flats of the caliper jaws as close to the slide as possible. Out at the blades there is deflection which can cause the measurement to read undersized; but you already knew that, you were just seeing if we were paying attention! ;-)
Ya DO want your head half a blonde one out of tram leaning topwards to the left. Something as close to tram as you can get but erring that way. Say half a thou over a 18" swing is nice. That way when you cut right to left (that way that throws chips away from you) you don't drag the heal of the cutter. Better finish.
One note: At 5:55, you refer to the jewel as "carborundum". But you correct that at about 12:00. Rubies (synthetic or real) are corundum, which is aluminum oxide. Carborundum is silicon carbide. Both are really hard compounds, but different.
Man, those tools bring back memories from my fitter apprenticeship back in the 90's ('93-'96). Still have my trusty old Mitutoyo Vernier caliper from back then. Just can't let the ol' girl go. :)
8:10 When you need a microscope to look at your rod...
The word you're looking for is longitudinal travel measurer, referred to as LTM in machine shops. Some people like to call them a Trav-a-dial.
almost to half a million big guy. (been subbed since 50k)
One tip: when you have an indicator that for some reason is reacting slowly or seeming to hang up a little, take a clean dry cloth and carefully and thoroughly wipe the indicator stem off being sure to move it all the way in and clean the other end as well... it takes barely a microscopic amount of residue or oil to make them become sluggish, cleaning with dry clean cloth will help.
try oiling and tightening the gib on your calipers, often they get loose over time causing an error.
source: I QC hundreds of tools a year
Maybe even more important next to 'slop' is the hysteresis (not the same thing)
That means that you will get a different reading if you go back instead of forth.
For that reason in some very precise projects you can only go forward (also on a lathe), because if you go back, the actual distance is different.
Seen many people making this mistake actually, can't emphasis this enough.
Those stickers look awesome 0.o One sure would look great on my motochoocher 🏍️💨
Thanks Zac! It's lame to laugh at your own jokes, but I got a chuckle out of 'em. xD
I have no drawers, but some hard saddle bags to slap it on. I'm sure they will get the drift!
AvE I would love one of those toolbox stickers I'm in the south arm of Ontario.i have wasted hundreds of hours watching all your vidjayos and that stick-her would make it all work while lmfao plz let me know how I can give you my address....
My beaters are as clean as a surgeon's beaters, autoclaved after the girls I go out with. Love the sticker!
*motochoocher* mega cringe
The amount of knowledge of this man... Makes me wanna cry! :D
My measuring device says my sticks too short for the ice.....
You need to get it off the ice and use a mapp gas torch to heat it, it makes it expand
There's no such thing as a stick too short for the ice. Just look at Johnny Gaudreau.
slight correction, dial indicators are more accurate for linear measurement than test indicators, because of cosine error on the test indicators. testers tend to be more sensitive for comparative measurement (did I center the thing in the chuck?), but the dial indicator is better for absolute measurement (how far did I move the axis). you can buy 0.00005" graduated plunger type dial indicators too though. Like you said, depends on what you're up to.
I love your videos, and your vocabulary is hilarious, probably at least 50% of why I like watching them
Question: Is the adhesive on the stickers suitable for application to my betrothed's hindquarters? If so, I need one...for reasons.
Super accuracy!! My father was a tool and die machinist. He made spin rolls in North Tonawanda, NY for 50 years.
8:22, I thought, "My word, Ave has gone all Carrot top prop gag on the viewers" But NO, there really is a Power Fist brand! :-) :-) :-)"Hey Earl, would you mind giving me the power fist over here?"
I have only just discovered this channel because we only just have been given permission to have the internets here in the U.K. I love the humour of your antics but at the same time find I'm learning lots while I'm laughing too. Please keep up the shananighins and best wishes for the skookum. Keith Billinge United peoples kingdom of britbekistan.
"What are you? my wife?" Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaah
You my friend, are the most smartest man in the world...well, TH-cam world. Why? Because of your INCREDIBLE 'slang' for all 'bad words', YT's analytics, they'll never catch you and demonetize your vidjeos! Awesome sir...that you saw this coming YEARS ago!
The older I get, the less important owning something that will last "the rest of my life" is.
That extra watchspring in the miti is a cool idea - eliminate backlash error.
Seeing those little tricks is awesome.
Used a dial indicator to set the thrust lash on a VW air cooled engine crankshaft. As this was eons ago IIRC it was set using shims behind the pulley. I don't think they were on the flywheel end. If you didn't have enough lash, it would bind. Too much would bang the bearings resulting in oil migration to the driveway causing consternation from others in the household. The main bearing on the generator pulley end had a spiral in it to spin the oil back into the engine. It was how the bearing was lubricated, by slopping oil into it from the crank splashing it around from the sump and the spiral keeping it from escaping to the wild beyond and your garage floor or driveway. Magnificent tool for specific applications. IIRC my father borrowed it from work and it was made by Starrett - this was over 40 years ago.
14:02 Precision Bowel Gas Exhaust (aka Fart!)
Remarkable coinkidink, I had to peek under the skirt of a Mitu I inherited from my uncle not so much as a week ago. Last calibrated in '86, seems it just has some schmoo gumming up the works, got it cleaned and working like new. You just can't beat a quality tool.
6:58
You know you can't show that on youtube man!
In 1965 I was in jr high shop class and loved it, but we did not measure things but with a ruler.
In 2000 I bankrolled a machine shop. That inventory told me what to buy to set up my own shop. I got indicators and calipers.
~~2005 my cousin got a patent on Mitutoyo coolant proof calipers [like shown in video]. I have never designed a phase detector with good amplitude immunity, but it seems my cousin did. He says he used 3 phase, but I don't see how that alone would work so well.
Just a tip from someone who used to repair camcorders: Get yourself some cross point screwdrivers for those tiny Japanesium screws. Sure a 00 Phillips will do in a pinch, but using the correct driver makes it so much easier. The screw actually sticks on the tip with no wobble which makes losing the screw a lot less likely. The screw will fit tight enough that you can pick the screwdriver up with the screw.
"What are You, my wife?" lol. Got another one I use frequently: "What do I NOT need that for?"
The gridy grindy noise on the power fister is caused by having the pinion to rack mesh too tight. Ease up on the mesh and it will run smoother. Its a common fault in any brand of indicator if it has been dropped or abused. Speaking of which whats with the angled return spring pin on the S and the M indicators? Shurely it ought to be at 90 degrees.
Measure up higher on the caliper and no 200lb ape pressure
Jordan Bjork That's exactly what I was thinking. and I've been machining for fifteen years and have yet to need one of those dial indicators
I have a few test indicators. One with 30 thousands travel. But I rarely do lathe work
Yep! Measure in as close to the base of the jaws as you can. The tip is handy but not for every day use. They might not be the most accurate things in the world, but at least show how to use them right!
And +Andrew Delashaw look at Keith Fenner's video 'No Stinking Indicators'
They are handy, but not needed. :)
Trudat. +Electra Flarefire
these videos never fail to bring a smile to my face. thanks Ave, also, a shticker would be a welcome addition to my bare drawers
My buddy today got donated an old Bridgeport at his new job, that sticker sure would look nice on it!
Thanks for the video - nostalgia full!
When I was studying mechanical engineering at college we only ever used mechanical measuring instruments such as dial gauges, micrometers and calipers. Also used vernier height gauges. I don't think the digital ones were available then - at least not cost effective for our college to buy!
Notification squad, reporting for duty
A sticker would sure make my toolbox more appealing. Considering it is in the marital bedroom I could do with all the help I can get.
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Armin Gianni congrats
Noice
noice as fuk armin, all we gotta do now is watch the thing
Rhys Lewis ain't nobody got time for that
For 🦊 sake.
That sticker would keep the choochers out of my box. Grizzly, they're just a hop over the 49th for me, so I've got some, but I hear you on the QC. More like Q-outa-C. You gotta check everything before you leave the store, I've returned more than one item without even leaving the lot.
those EDGE technologies protram for tramming the head are pretty handy. The cool kids are using Noga bases now too, one handle and all the adjustment points come loose.
Whenever we received micrometers that had been dropped and the spindle was bent we would fix it with a few love taps of a rawhide mallet, followed by the usual cal.
AvE your videos just make my day better
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"My tools bite"? a perfect reference for my dirtcheap, no shield, jerky-goddamn-button-not-staying-on-being-to-close-to-the-wheel, angle grinder! The stik-her would stick noycely on my '63 Plymouth suicidelator as well!
4-barrel, high gearing and brakes that'll stop ya before next sunday (granted that youre pointing the nose up an incline)
Had a good chuckle when those stickers popped up on the screen lol! I can see those getting a good laugh on my bench!
took some time away from playing with the angry wall fairies to watch yet another informative AVE vidjayo. the sticker sure does look good and would like to add one to my tool box.
I needed a dial indicator for a small projects a few weeks back. Ended up buying a craptastic no-name from fleaBay. This video made me feel a lot better about it. It looks like even the cheap ones are about the same on the inside. Although actually the one I got is all aluminum (crown, bezel, backplate, etc.). At least on the outside.
Now i want a dial indicator, even though i don't have a lathe or any other practical use for it at the moment.... One of those stickers would also be most welcome. Interesting video as always, i always wondered how those things worked, but never took the time to find out until now.
Used to spend hours bamboozling my self with these and 4 jaw chucks in the college workshop. got there in the end.
Sometimes in avionic when using syncros they have a double gear there have a spring so the teeth a tight against its other. That seems to work perfect against backlash.
Glad you're back Sir.
Hi AvE, thank you for all good videos you did over the years. I enjoy them very much. Shame that I have no time to watch them more. Good luck to you and your family. Stay skoocum :)
One of those stickers would fit right in on my toolbox. I'd have to get it greasy first, though. Gotta make it fit in with the old man's stickers from when he started wrenching in the 70s.
My on Beaver we Thrust T-Shirt just arrived! Loved it!
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3:49 AYYYYY I just learned how to do that today! was a bit of a pain but i got er good. the Machine tool technology class has not officially started so they have been letting me get a leg up on everything. the math is killin me.
My buddy is an A&P, that sticker would look great while he's tooling on Cessnas and Pipers
I just watched a pile of thisoldtony's vidjayos where he is using dial indicators to make precision parts. interesting to see how these things actually work.
The Power Fister gear did not have the rollover of the Starrett. How can it be a Power Fister without any jewels. Great comparison video.
Richard Van horn. Industrial equipment mechanic in California. Love your content man keep it up.
Always enjoy those kind of videos.
The only lubrication for the inner workings of a dial indicator is RONSONOL lighter fluid. It's made in Bradford, Pennsylvania. Try it, you'll like it!
I have a dial indicator graduated to half a tenth. I haven't checked if it's really that accurate (not sure how I would), but there are VERY accurate dial indicators.
Those cheaper dtis can often be improved by adjusting the rack and pinion clearance properly
I know you already "fixed" it, but Keith Rucker from VintageMachinery uses a fella in Illinois that restores and repairs these dial indicators. Keith did a video on the before an after of this dial indicators and said they came back looking like brand new tools for a very cheap price.
Had a cheep Chinesium dial indicator on a MightyMag for situations where you'd want to use the paper plates instead of the good china, oxymoron intended. Some fleet-footed tool grabber absconded with it and promptly reduced it to it's full potential, broken. Upon full confession, without even having to waterboard them, I only lashed them verbally to within 7/8 of and inch of their life. My leniency not being due to any flaw in my character but to the fact that the convicted took breaker bought his way out of debtor prison by paying me off with a nearly perfect Federal indicator of comparable range. I'm normally touchy about my tools but this incident had several dividends, my outrage was loud and public so few dared to borrow tools after that, the Federal became my go-to for precise measurement, and eventually the tool breaker became one of my minions because I performed a "miracle" by fixing several of their tools including that POS indicator.
Thomas Mercer in St Albans UK used to make truly excellent dial gauges, but like many UK tool makers they have alas long gone.
Aaawwww man, excellent...you are producing the best mechsoftporn!
Keep them coming!
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[02/25/22] At school they issued us with some Chinese-made Asimeto instruments. Way better than Princess Auto, but not quite Starrett, or Mitutoyo. Also for price/performance, the Mitutoyo are a better deal because they're NOT as over-priced as Starrett can be.
nothing makes my day like a new Ave vidjay-o
just an fyi, I watch these videos either taking a shit or in the bathtub... usually not at the same time. love your videos.
It's my form of meditation tuning in to Uncle AvE while at the same time tuning out from the world. Content is always informative, definitely educative, and never fails to deliver laughs even more-so with the witty vernacular. Great stuff Ave! As always it's a laugh, immensely relaxing, and a privilege to share in the shop time with ya tackling the project of the day!
//keep your drink on ice
*random curious question, but are you located in Saskatchewan by any chance? I'm English but I'm subscribed to a few blokes' channels who are based in Saskatchewan, and man I can't tell you the urge I get to emigrate watching them outdoors in the great wilderness that is their back yard.
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"it's not a vernacular , it's derby"
I definitely need one of those stickers gotta spread the knowledge of the Empire of dirt at my shop
I used to do some work for Rolls Royce cars, back in the 80's. I was told that Sid, or whatever his name, wasn't allowed to use any measurement gadget whatsoever in placing those slats onto the impressive Palladian inspired radiator. Any slight measurement error would look terrible so they eyeballed them. Then there was George. He was locked in the trunk while someone drove the car so he could listen for squeaks and rattles. I jest ye not.
Tanx man, I needed the laugh in the shop today!
wish some of those stickers could make their way to northern ireland, I have been inspired by the likes of AvE and the machinists on YT and put down my gaming gloves and made it back into the workshop. I have seriously learned how to tig weld and use a lathe and mill from YT videos. Small vids on my channel to prove.
BY THE POWER OF ODIN, this man seems to KNOW his STUFF!!! Tryin ta git my poor `ole grey haired pappy to check this guy out, he doesn't like ANYBODY, ... but I'll betcha a moose he'd dig this guy, Good stuff AvE, keep it comin.
I found a set of vintage micrometers in my late fathers tools I inherited. They look like they have only been taken out of the case 3 times. 4 when I looked at them. They look like the day they were packed at the shop that made them.
1"
2"
And I think a 4" set
Rolls-Royce PLC use Mitiyoto to measures all internal components of their Trent engines. Heck, they even use em in the apprentice workshops where I'm in at the moment.
I was saying the other day that I need to buy one or two of these. The dial indicators, not the stickers. Although I do need to start customizing the ol' tool box. It's bare naked and sad, like me on a Saturday night.
that sticker is a beauty! should slap it up where the state inspection sticker goes on the old truck. trucks a tool right? hands off!
Would certainly love one of those stickers for work
I'd love one of those toolbox flairs. One can not have too many flairs.
AvE you should know about Abbe's principle when using vernier calipers at 1:05, rookie move, something a second year toolmaker would do. You should always measure as close to the measuring axis as possible or you will experience sine error especially when using those gorilla hands.