I have the old brushless, use it to cut firewood for hunt camp, prune trees and roots around the house, no complaints. These new hp are helping keep my money in my wallet.
Thank you for the video! When you buy a sawzall it should be able to dismantle that whole room with just some battery timeouts because it got hot, not go up in smoke and fall apart with 2-3 below average cuts.
While disconcerting, that smoke is likely due to the shitty machine/bearing oil used in the reciprocating mechanism and not from the motor or electronics (which you would have smelt, would have been much thicker, and most importantly, the tool would no longer have functioned). ---> The question now is, how are you going to replace the oil and grease that was just burnt off?
If this model has a similar piston design to the older models, the heat is occurring due to friction at the piston shaft and piston shaft guide. This area is right behind the blade change button. The piston shaft is also rectangular. Think of a 2x4 laying flat and having a forward and backward motion. Eventually the heat can cause the piston shaft to bend due to the added downward pressure when cutting. I fixed a previous model Ryobi recip saw that had an upward bend on the piston shaft. If the shaft orientation were to be vertical, the bent shaft would not have occurred.
My HP drill does drill and screw well, but when I tried to use it to turn over a 150cc engine, something my brushed drill could do, the speed controller would cut power before the engine hit top dead center. This makes the tool feel like it has less usable torque.
I looked back at your last 3 recip videos you didn't push nothing as hard as you did with this one ryobi find that odd. Please get any other brand saw and do the same cut in the same wood would like to see the results.
No need. General contractor here and we’ve cut living rooms in half floor ceilings walls and all with recip saws and the saws hold up. This was not an impressive showing from ryobi but then again no matter how fancy ryobi makes the tools look their still just DIYr at best
He was on purpose pushing the saw hard on the cut really hard something most people wouldent do let the blade do the cut he did it on purpose probly degreased the tool witj a spray on purpose too you can hear it sound different then any other vid ive seen of it so idk this dude seems sketchy my ryobi tool cuts anything with my high performance battery and ive used the conpany milwakee its about the same but that has a bigger motor so yea lil more powerful which doesent make much of a dofference def not worth the price difference
@@DirtySouthFlorida3 I've been a big fan of Ryobi for 15 years. I smoked this saw in one day, cutting some siding. My old, blue Ryobi recip saw just went bad on me after 15 years. This new one lasted me a day, doing light duty cutting. You can say whatever you want but the top of the line, brushless saw should last longer than a brushed saw from 15 years ago.
@@TheCharleseye I have a big blue Ryobi Sawzall that's 20 years old. It was the last corded tool I used regularly, and it still works great, but I've replaced it with a 36v Hikoki
@@DirtySouthFlorida3 No punctuation , and crazy accusations. Not a convincing argument, particularly since you have zero evidence for your accusations.
Why does this happen to the more expensive brushless version? I see several videos and reviews on online stores having the same problem... Ryobyis 100 dollar brushed version dont have this problem
I had a twenty-year old blue Ryobi reciprocating saw that never failed me, but I wanted the quick release blade. So I just went all in and purchased this one. On my first use, I was cutting up an old dishwasher, but within twenty minutes, the entire blade holder part snapped off. Now I need to go return it tomorrow.
I'd be very interested to see it taken apart to see exactly why it failed like that. I'm no expert but that amount of vertical movement/flex (if as designed) seems counterproductive to a tool that requires downward pressure to function; it could only ever chew itself to pieces.
@@WorkshopAddict When a company makes a comment like that and you can clearly see the smoke and they do nothing about it, I don't want to have any dealings with a company like that if they won't stand behind what they make. Run, Forrest, Run. > > > th-cam.com/video/x2-MCPa_3rU/w-d-xo.html
@@WorkshopAddict I had a Ryobi gas weed eater carburetor fail. In my garage sitting flat on the concrete floor it started puking gas out of the air intake making my garage smell like a gasoline leak. Fortunately for Ryobi that 3 year warranty doesn't cover the carburetor I was told. No more Ryobi for me.
I have the previous brushless model and it has smoked, but I used to have the first model reciprocating saw from when they first went green and I loved it. I'm a fan of ryobi but I've had a few tools not last too long. I've got a very diverse tool collection but as far as recips go I may be buying a different brand now.
@alexander-yd3hz Fast forward 2 years. I think they still had a lot of bugs to work out when they first came out. I now have a brushless impact driver, cutoff tool as well as some of their 40v brushless tools and I've been very happy with all of them.
If you put the shoe against the material that will help the tool get less stress on the mechanism....and therefore it will help cut thru the material with more ease...that's the whole purpose of the shoe.....
You are correct, sort of, but when your blade wears and you move the shoe out, there would be the same stress on the blade. When you cut nails or lags under a sill, where is the pressure? No matter if you use the shoe or not, the pressure on the blade will be where the item is your cutting and you will never always have the pressure at the shoe. Again, Just me. I know what you are saying, but the tool should have been able to take 5 minutes of that style of cutting.
I had milwaukee , after watching youtubers saying milwaukee has great warranty and how they sent them new one no questions asked !! Nope !! Thats only for youtubers who can damage their image , i tried to warranty a tool that was only a month old , they told me i had to buy a new one , so i said puck them im only buying a tool that doesnt cost too much so it breaks it doesnt break my bank , so ryobi does it for me !! I got the same saw amd still work no issues
I watched another guy have a similar issue when he was cutting through half inch steel I think when the blade starts to bind up and has an automatic release for safety and so that you don't snap the blades
How about a side by side, apples to apples comparison with another brand. I've smoked battery operated recip saws from every brand. Went back to corded for heavy duty tools.
I don't think you're over pushing it if it's used as often, but it's a battery-type saw. I have an elec. Milwaukee Sawzall for over 30 yrs and a couple of battery Milwaukee Cordless Sawzall since 2010, they are well-used nonsmokers and we put them through hell as you just did with the Ryobi. We do construction-type work. Price-wise I think this would be an OK saw for the weekend handyman DIY'er.
Any Sawzall I have owned ie: Porter Cable, Craftsmen, off branded KraftTek have never smoked for over 20yrs! These look like they are coming off of a Chinese assembly line as knockoffs! I hope Ryobi makes good on these defects!
It's not. I'm a handyman and I just smoked this saw the other day while cutting siding (T-111) around some windows. I actually had to pull out my blue Ryobi that has a faulty trigger (the reason I bought the HP) to finish the job. This saw caused me to buy my first Dewalt tool in over 12 years. The HP drills, drivers, multi-tool, etc all work fine for what I do. The new saws are garbage.
Similar happened to mine, I was using it to try to cut a stump (14x16”) and it started smoking within 9 minutes of cutting horizontally with a 12” Milwuakee pruning blade, and it was also super hot, like retrieving a fresh cleaned plate that was used with hot water. I’m gonna switch my sawzall to Milwuakee, and only the sawzall because my other brushless tools are good.
I like seeing tools tested on a real jobsite 👍 I assume it's the same bank as where you tested out the SDS rotary hammer on the night deposit box? You're not expecting too much from a brushless tool that's supposed to be in "prosumer" or entry-level contractor territory, which the HP line is supposed to be going for. Plenty of DIY homeowners and handymen are chopping up particle board+formica countertops in kitchen/bathroom remodels. Especially if they're too cheap to rent a dumpster and need to hide countertops in their regular trash haha.
I'm a contractor and I own the brushless version that uses the HP battery which is not the same as the new HP saw that you're using... However I want to say I've pushed my saw much harder than what I saw you doing and I've never had a problem or smoke the tool... I'm a little shocked and would be interested to hear what Ryobi has to say about it??? As far as the comments of Roby not being able to make a good reciprocating saw. That's a joke they make many very good reciprocating saws, in many names....lol
Same here. I've got 30+ hours in on this same HP recip with no issues. This weekend I demoed a whole shed with two 6AH batteries and two Diablo demo blades. The recip worked like a horse.
I wonder if they fixed this issue. I have an old ryobi saw and the one handed saw but I'm not a big fan of battery powered Sawzalls. I prefer to use my Dewalt corded one because well it works. I like having battery powered for some things like if I only need to make a couple cuts or in a area where power is either not an option or just to much trouble. Things have come a long way and I'm considering getting one. I mean circular saws or as I still call them skill saws are pretty awesome now days and I rarely use a corded one anymore. The 7¼"brushless skills saw is pretty sweet and works perfect for my needs. Anyway they have a few good deals one batteries and a free tool going on right now and I'm trying to decide which tool I want now lol. I have everything they have to offer except the leaf blower which I prefer gas, the SDS hammer drill which again I prefer corded plus it doesn't have hammer only, the cut off tool which I have the grinder already and not to impressed with it or this which I also wasn't impressed with the videos of blade popping out and burning up what I consider pretty easy. Decisions decisions lol. Not much to choose from lol.
Have you reviewed the Craftsman V20 20-Volt Max Variable Speed Brushless Cordless Reciprocating Saw Model #CMCS350B? If not I would be interested to see how it compares with your big dog dewalt reciprocating saw??
This is sad and really disappointing. I’ve had great success with the Ryobi brushless line. The only HP tool I’ve bought so far is the new 40V hp chainsaw and it’s incredible. I think their OPE engineering team needs to help out their power tool team. The HP power tools seem to be all looks and less perf than the brushless models. If you compare the previous brushless angle grinder it actually has more rpms than the new HP model, what gives?
@@WorkshopAddict as a union carpenter if I see a fellow carpenter vested in Ryobi he will be they carpenter working by himself because we will think heis a half ass no good carpenter.
@@paulmorris563 be honest with me do see any carpenters on any job sites with Ryobi? If the GC see you using a Ryobi Miter saw he checking all your work in front of you and behind you
@@rickyperkins232 It’s the person that makes the tool not the tool that makes the worker. This is the dumbest comment ever. Ryobi is a great option for people learning the trades. I even have a few ryobi tools mixed in with my Milwaukee and makita stuff on my job sites. I know several people who have thousands in Milwaukee fuel 18v stuff and do really shoddy work. Your comment is irrelevant.
Ironic this just showed up in my suggestions. I just got done cutting apart a 32 foot aluminum ladder into 3 foot lengths so about 20 cuts with an older (at least 10 years) ryobi reciprocating saw and diablo general purpose blade. No problems what so ever. Shame if newer stuff is inferior to older models.
So, wait, you're not going to talk about the molding around the front and blow this tool up with explosives? How odd that a DIY level tool didn't hold up but one you buried and ran over still worked until you made it explode.
LOL. This was marketed by Ryobi as a Pro Level Contractor tool. If you review tools, you should have been watching that tool release with the thousands of others who seen the Ryobi team all say the HP tools are made for the contractor on the jobsite.
@@WorkshopAddict I was watching and doing a livestream with Philly Fixed, Joe the tool guy and the Den of Tools and we were all having a good laugh. I'm not trying to be critical of your videos, I was just saying you should have given the Ryobi the same level of treatment.
Ryobi just doesn’t seem to be able to make a recip saw that will hold together. Before I bit the bullet and went to their red brother I had some Ryobi tools. I had the previous gen brushless recip saw and went through 3 of them in a matter of days and wasn’t pushing them hard just like I don’t think you were. We all know Ryobi doesn’t make tools for pros but some of their tools don’t even seem to stand up for a DIYer. Batteries aside you don’t have to spend THAT much more to get into a pro brand over the Ryobi now. Their brushless tools are creeping up closer to Milwaukee’s price point all the time. Ya, still cheaper, but not by much and when they don’t last which is the better value? Great review.
@@derekbross6958 Agreed, I was looking for a 2nd battery platform to complement my Bosch 18V tools and was thinking about Ryobi. I ended up going with Milwaukee's M12 lineup for both a jigsaw and oscillating toold and ended up paying less than if I went with Ryobi. I don't regret it one bit.
@@derekbross6958 all my fellow carpenters frown on this brand not even apprentice carpenters use this brand on any jobsite. As a matter of fact no trades on the jobsite uses Ryobi..
That’s disappointing. I have the older brushless recip saw (P517) and used it continuously for about an hour to remove a hedge in my backyard. Went through three 4.0 batteries in that hour. The tool got hot, but it didn’t smoke. It worked admirably and I was impressed. I’m surprised this upgraded HP brushless recip saw started smoking. You didn’t push it that hard, IMO. You only lost 1 bar on your first battery and I went through 3 full 4.0 batteries...no problems with the older brushless recip at all.
@@WorkshopAddict the entire new HP lineup seems to be far crummier than the stuff it replaces. I’m a bit of a Green fanboy, but nearly every release with the pancake motor saw stress failures within their gearboxes/anvils/bearings in moderate use across multiple reviewers, or had safety cutoffs happening too soon to be useful. It’s frustrating as the prior generation all seemed built more than well enough to handle even occasional pro-level use and you’d expect at least parity with that.
I just don’t understand why the thermal protection isn’t jumping in and shutting off the tool. The popping blades are unacceptable, period. And you’re not the only reviewer that had this issue.
Thermal protective sensors are normally placed where atypically demanding work loads are likely to cause equipment failures. In battery-powered tools, two places are top candidates: electric motors & batteries. The general assumption is that the driven mechanism will not produce sufficient heat from even very high work loads to cause equipment failures. The designers could have included a heat sensor in or on the driven mechanism, but that could not be justified because the proper strategy is to design the mechanism so it does not produce device-damaging waste heat, a clear indication of power-transfer inefficiency. Clearly Ryobi has a problem with this tool model's driven mechanism and they should take responsibility by compensating buyers and correcting the design used in future production. Going silent when an already marketed product becomes known to include any significant flaw is not a good strategy toward protecting market brand names.
That type saw has had issues but first for smoking . Usually the gears in front explode through case into your hand. No I don't hate royobie but I see they need to fix that one to .
Better late than never I guess It refers to capacity of charge it will hold, but when you have a higher charge available, the battery will sustain more amps and will give you more raw power. Lithium Ion batteries help fight that but they're not infallible. Much better than the alternative, but they still lessen as the capacity (small battery or battery running low) lowers.
I’ve seen the old brushed Ryobi saws take far more than that. You just gave that one a light workout. Did it smell like it was the grease burning off? Worked with a guy for 12 years who insisted on using Ryobi. For every tool we wore out he wore out 3. Never have I seen one give up that fast though.
I was gonna buy one of these new for $85 with the buy more save more. Glad I watched this first. How is anyone supposed to do demolition with this thing if it smokes after 1 cut, battery only down 1 bar. They need better cooling, maybe a built in fan would help
As always, you post an interesting honest video. You didn't push it hard at all. Smoking in 5 minutes doing something a DIY guy would be using it for. For Ryobi to say that's normal is absurd.
You didn't push it too hard at all. Seems the lubricating grease on the chuck and arm is sub standard for that level of performance demands. Meaning, the specifications of the saw, itself. 1.25" stroke at 3200 spm, the lubricant BEST be up to snuff!
Yes, I sent the saw and video to TTI. They never told me anything about the issue with the saw and would not replace it. Then told me not to post the video. Ha.
@@WorkshopAddict yeah that’s crap. The number one thing with tools is reliability and your weekend warrior wouldn’t even be able get a job done let alone a professional contractor. Thank you for being honest with your reviews. Subbed
Contractor or DIY makes no difference. If you can't dismantle one counter as a pro, I won't be able to tear out a few walls for my one time diy demolition and remodel project. Thanks for the review, I think my 20yr old corded Porter Cable will be dusted off and called back into action one more time.
That's a ton of deflection on the ryobi shaft when you pull on it causing the shaft to rub on the seals and everything in a way that when your cutting its causing it to melt the seals or rub the house probably why its smoking
@@WorkshopAddict The HP series is consider their Pro line. A lot of the HP tool do great at sub-pro and even pro grade work. However, some of the tools have issues that need to be worked out. Especially when it comes to the saws. Considering the HP line was developed and released in just over a year there are going to be bugs that need addressed. I love the review and keep up the great work.
@@jamesrbrink9645 Ryobi is owned by TTI, who owns the maker of the original Sawzall, Milwaukee. I have to assume they know how to build one without bugs! Also, don't let your core user base be your testing dummies. It took me 10 minutes to smoke it? Maybe less. Ryobi is heading a own hill.
@@WorkshopAddict You’re right. They should know how to make a recip saw. What makes it even worse is that Ryobi’s new CEO came from Milwaukee and this entire line is his baby. I like Ryobi snd have several of their tools. However, for any job that is even remotely heavy duty I go straight to my Bosch tools. I know they’ll get the job done and won’t break. But, that’s just me. I personally think they’re trying to get high performance with cheaper parts and it’s just not working.
As a Ryobi fan, I’m not sure that they are made for the contractor that pushes their tools right to the max. I guess some jobs require that, but as these projects are bid, price should include wear and tear. Recip saws are given a hard way to go in the demo process. I like seeing these tools pushed, but in the real world I would try to make as few cuts as possible. I know that Ryobi HP line is pushed to the contractor but I don’t think it’s quite there yet. I enjoyed the video.
Idk because I have one same set up an I’ve cut more plus went outside an cut branches too a no smoke at all! But like you said it really not contractor grade it’s a great diy brand!
My corded Ryobi recip saw just got trashed because it wouldn't hold onto blades. Also the blades carved up the shoe because the design was bad. Didn't smoke though.
Up in Smoke, Still Smokin, you must like Cheech and Chong movies, lol. Great review, I have this recip saw, it replaced one I bought from Harbor Freight.
My personal opinion is now you’re not pushing it that hard I run my Milwaukee saws all extremely hard it is held up just fine if the blade pops out that tells you a lot about the quality of the tool that would be frustrating for even though operator who’s up on the manlift and the blade falls out onto the floor now he has to go back down there and go grab another blade or keep a pack of blades up there I know a lot of young apprentices who buy Ryobi tools but in reality I would tell him to stay away from it if that’s the case or what they’re producing
Wrong blade for the job without a doubt. Cutting very slow to start with, the correct blade should cut that twice as fast, My Ryoby 18V Jigsaw would cut that faster and without overheating.
One day I used my Ridgid brushed Sawzall to cut a stump out of the ground. I ran it hard and it survived. I did this at my own home so I would say Ryobi needs to fix their Sawzall
I'm thinking I might ditch my Ryobi tools and go with Harbor Freight Bauer cordless tools. I have some of the Ryobi tools that are blue when I first bought them in 1997 that are still running strong. The past few years they have really gone down hill in quality.
I would not go with any harbor freight power tool brand. You dont know how long those brands will be around until they decide to come out with another random brands. Just like walmarts hart brand. Who knows when they will do away with it. Just like STANLEY . i know they weren't power tools but still there gone .
Except you are trying to compare it to Milwaukee or Dewalt. The comparison should be against other recip saws at the same price point. If you want to be the boss at contractor type work, you pony up the cash for the contractor grade tool. Everyone knows this.
Honestly I’ve never used a recip saw for fine slow cutting, maybe some do. My experience is fast aggressive cutting into metal or embedded wood. It looks to me with the pressure put on it the shaft bent. Recip saws are typically made for demo work. I see that it might work for a DYIer to cut the odd door jam but not for continuous use. Great work Brian.
I think you only gave the saw a light working, I have beaten Milwaukee and DeWalt recip saws to the brink of death, I'm talking 6 hours of straight demolition,non stop cutting day after day. And they still worked every time I turned them on or needed to do another demo job. The saws are still working to this day. So if it's smoking let it smoke,push it some more and see what she'll take. If it dies on you take it apart and see what failed it. It's Great seeing the truth with these tools and what they can handle or their flaws and merits.
Just my opinion but the guide that the recip runs on is either too big and not tight enough fit or the rod is 2 flexible and thus creating excessive friction during to not sliding in and out straight and creating the flex on the blade
I don’t like the outcome as a ryobi user. Facts are facts, I too broke my recip saw tearing down a large shed. First white smoke, then black. Then R.I.P. ran the thing for 5 to 7 hours straight. Yes, I have too many batteries. But it is an entry level tool. You build a house with Milwaukee, you can maintain a house with Ryobi. Thank you for the content and straightforward results.
I have a worx brush reciprocating saw that cuts better then that saw but it does get heated up but cuts some things like butter well it would have to be tested to say that ryobi has good brushless drills, impacts and circular saws and etc but there sawsaw to me are awful I heard the one hand saw is good but one hand saw is not as strong as a regular reciprocating saw but ryobi should work on that even if they had to copy the competition models of there saws or put more metal on there tools they keep trying to go plastic and sometimes in areas that get hot they put plastic which is a bad move on there part and everyone says it’s not meant for that like the subcompact impact driver that has a plastic housing where the impact mechanism works inside gets really hot but they are not being smart but no one will use it that people are saying to use the impact driver with the plastic subcompact impact driver when it may have the same specs to almost the same as the four mode impact driver to me makes no sense.
This is the type of work a reciprocating saw is made for. If this is to much it should be marketed as a home use or "light duty" saw. I have used these saws all my life as an elevator mechanic and had them get so hot you couldn't touch them but never did one of them smoke. Maybe just a lemon.
Hey, even a home gamer is gonna demo a countertop now and then. No excuse for a dismal showing like this. If they won't stand behind it, that's even more disappointing.
Tbh with the first cut I would have made the cut away from the edge halfway and keep going since the extra flying around might have made extra heat, and also if it's not the motor it's not that big of a problem. But they definitely need to put better parts in these tools. Now hammer drill is a beast but sawzalls are kinda junk. I'd still recommend it but definitely go easy as possible on it so you don't break it.
Ryobi has never made a good sawzall -- period. I have the previous brushless and smoked it within one minute while cutting some tree roots, admittedly I was pushing it a bit. Did the same thing with the one-handed Ryobi cutting tree roots. The motor doesn't seem to be the problem, it's the drive train. One good thing is I've never once had a problem with Ryobi batteries but I just hate pulling out extension cords for my Milwaukee and the batteries for my Dewalt are at the end of their lives so I'll just keep using Ole Smoky until it dies.
I fix these things for my job. They're trash. The moving parts are made of pot metal, and underneath that rubber piece you'll find that half of the gear case is made of cheap plastic.
I don't like the newer lithium + hp high performance branded batteries don't like they went back to the old style 18v lithium battery indicator i like the older style p192 4ah lithium +hp battery indicator that step up in size like a phone signal icon @WorkshopAddict
I put mine through more abuse than that in the video and it does fine. And the blade had never came off once. Cutting trees branches, damp too not dry and it's 4-6 inches in diameter. More thick than what this guy is cutting. I must say he is using the wrong blade or a dulled one. Loo at long it takes for him to more through the cut. It's the blade man. Not cutting through quick and put more stressed on the motor. Com'on. Common sense. Mine recip saw was the brushed one too. Maybe Ryobi HP line is not good.
I've been a fan of Ryobi products for years, but am slowly moving away to other brands - not even being brand specific. I also do a lot of research into brands not owned or manufactured in China, which makes tool hunting even more difficult.
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You can't tell me I'm the only one that was certain the Metabo impact driver was going to meet the ground... and never did
I have used this saw very hard and it worked without these issues
You should buy a lottery ticket!
I have the old brushless, use it to cut firewood for hunt camp, prune trees and roots around the house, no complaints. These new hp are helping keep my money in my wallet.
No kidding, another buyer beware scenario!
Another great video....thanks for keeping us educated on the good the bad and what goes up in smoke
You bet
Thank you for the video!
When you buy a sawzall it should be able to dismantle that whole room with just some battery timeouts because it got hot, not go up in smoke and fall apart with 2-3 below average cuts.
While disconcerting, that smoke is likely due to the shitty machine/bearing oil used in the reciprocating mechanism and not from the motor or electronics (which you would have smelt, would have been much thicker, and most importantly, the tool would no longer have functioned).
---> The question now is, how are you going to replace the oil and grease that was just burnt off?
Well, The shaft has 1/2" of slop now, so one could pour it right back in. LOL
@@WorkshopAddict interesting have an old Dewalt corded that has been badly abused over the years and does not require lube for the saw OR THE JOB !
If this model has a similar piston design to the older models, the heat is occurring due to friction at the piston shaft and piston shaft guide. This area is right behind the blade change button. The piston shaft is also rectangular. Think of a 2x4 laying flat and having a forward and backward motion. Eventually the heat can cause the piston shaft to bend due to the added downward pressure when cutting. I fixed a previous model Ryobi recip saw that had an upward bend on the piston shaft. If the shaft orientation were to be vertical, the bent shaft would not have occurred.
My HP drill does drill and screw well, but when I tried to use it to turn over a 150cc engine, something my brushed drill could do, the speed controller would cut power before the engine hit top dead center. This makes the tool feel like it has less usable torque.
I burned up a brand new corded DeWalt in just a few minutes, so what's your point?
I looked back at your last 3 recip videos you didn't push nothing as hard as you did with this one ryobi find that odd. Please get any other brand saw and do the same cut in the same wood would like to see the results.
No need. General contractor here and we’ve cut living rooms in half floor ceilings walls and all with recip saws and the saws hold up. This was not an impressive showing from ryobi but then again no matter how fancy ryobi makes the tools look their still just DIYr at best
He was on purpose pushing the saw hard on the cut really hard something most people wouldent do let the blade do the cut he did it on purpose probly degreased the tool witj a spray on purpose too you can hear it sound different then any other vid ive seen of it so idk this dude seems sketchy my ryobi tool cuts anything with my high performance battery and ive used the conpany milwakee its about the same but that has a bigger motor so yea lil more powerful which doesent make much of a dofference def not worth the price difference
@@DirtySouthFlorida3 I've been a big fan of Ryobi for 15 years. I smoked this saw in one day, cutting some siding. My old, blue Ryobi recip saw just went bad on me after 15 years. This new one lasted me a day, doing light duty cutting. You can say whatever you want but the top of the line, brushless saw should last longer than a brushed saw from 15 years ago.
@@TheCharleseye I have a big blue Ryobi Sawzall that's 20 years old. It was the last corded tool I used regularly, and it still works great, but I've replaced it with a 36v Hikoki
@@DirtySouthFlorida3 No punctuation , and crazy accusations. Not a convincing argument, particularly since you have zero evidence for your accusations.
I have this same saw and have had no problems. It’s a great saw. Maybe you just got ahold of a bad one. Ryobi actually makes some great stuff.
Why does this happen to the more expensive brushless version? I see several videos and reviews on online stores having the same problem... Ryobyis 100 dollar brushed version dont have this problem
I had a twenty-year old blue Ryobi reciprocating saw that never failed me, but I wanted the quick release blade. So I just went all in and purchased this one. On my first use, I was cutting up an old dishwasher, but within twenty minutes, the entire blade holder part snapped off. Now I need to go return it tomorrow.
I'd be very interested to see it taken apart to see exactly why it failed like that. I'm no expert but that amount of vertical movement/flex (if as designed) seems counterproductive to a tool that requires downward pressure to function; it could only ever chew itself to pieces.
I sent the tool back to Ryobi along with the video to show them that they are making junk. The response. "We see no problem here."
@@WorkshopAddict When a company makes a comment like that and you can clearly see the smoke and they do nothing about it, I don't want to have any dealings with a company like that if they won't stand behind what they make. Run, Forrest, Run. > > > th-cam.com/video/x2-MCPa_3rU/w-d-xo.html
Ryobi clearly does not care about anything but people saying positive things about their tools.
@@WorkshopAddict I had a Ryobi gas weed eater carburetor fail. In my garage sitting flat on the concrete floor it started puking gas out of the air intake making my garage smell like a gasoline leak. Fortunately for Ryobi that 3 year warranty doesn't cover the carburetor I was told. No more Ryobi for me.
@@WorkshopAddict WTF!!! "We see no problem.here" Wow stay away from these ripoff artists for sure. Poor C/S IMO!
I have the previous brushless model and it has smoked, but I used to have the first model reciprocating saw from when they first went green and I loved it. I'm a fan of ryobi but I've had a few tools not last too long. I've got a very diverse tool collection but as far as recips go I may be buying a different brand now.
Sure, I would stay with mainstream brands for sure after seeing this demo. Not worth the hassle IMO!
@@RickyG225 The problem with that, Ryobi is a mainstream brand. They're just not a prosumer or professional brand.
@alexander-yd3hz Fast forward 2 years. I think they still had a lot of bugs to work out when they first came out. I now have a brushless impact driver, cutoff tool as well as some of their 40v brushless tools and I've been very happy with all of them.
If you put the shoe against the material that will help the tool get less stress on the mechanism....and therefore it will help cut thru the material with more ease...that's the whole purpose of the shoe.....
You are correct, sort of, but when your blade wears and you move the shoe out, there would be the same stress on the blade. When you cut nails or lags under a sill, where is the pressure? No matter if you use the shoe or not, the pressure on the blade will be where the item is your cutting and you will never always have the pressure at the shoe. Again, Just me. I know what you are saying, but the tool should have been able to take 5 minutes of that style of cutting.
I had milwaukee , after watching youtubers saying milwaukee has great warranty and how they sent them new one no questions asked !! Nope !! Thats only for youtubers who can damage their image , i tried to warranty a tool that was only a month old , they told me i had to buy a new one , so i said puck them im only buying a tool that doesnt cost too much so it breaks it doesnt break my bank , so ryobi does it for me !! I got the same saw amd still work no issues
I watched another guy have a similar issue when he was cutting through half inch steel I think when the blade starts to bind up and has an automatic release for safety and so that you don't snap the blades
Very unfortunate... would be interested to get an AvE style BOLTR session on this..
How about a side by side, apples to apples comparison with another brand. I've smoked battery operated recip saws from every brand. Went back to corded for heavy duty tools.
I don't think you're over pushing it if it's used as often, but it's a battery-type saw. I have an elec. Milwaukee Sawzall for over 30 yrs and a couple of battery Milwaukee Cordless Sawzall since 2010, they are well-used nonsmokers and we put them through hell as you just did with the Ryobi. We do construction-type work. Price-wise I think this would be an OK saw for the weekend handyman DIY'er.
Exactly. Still have my Milwaukee saw all for over 20 years and it’s corded and still works like new!
Any Sawzall I have owned ie: Porter Cable, Craftsmen, off branded KraftTek have never smoked for over 20yrs! These look like they are coming off of a Chinese assembly line as knockoffs! I hope Ryobi makes good on these defects!
It's not. I'm a handyman and I just smoked this saw the other day while cutting siding (T-111) around some windows. I actually had to pull out my blue Ryobi that has a faulty trigger (the reason I bought the HP) to finish the job. This saw caused me to buy my first Dewalt tool in over 12 years. The HP drills, drivers, multi-tool, etc all work fine for what I do. The new saws are garbage.
Similar happened to mine, I was using it to try to cut a stump (14x16”) and it started smoking within 9 minutes of cutting horizontally with a 12” Milwuakee pruning blade, and it was also super hot, like retrieving a fresh cleaned plate that was used with hot water. I’m gonna switch my sawzall to Milwuakee, and only the sawzall because my other brushless tools are good.
I like seeing tools tested on a real jobsite 👍 I assume it's the same bank as where you tested out the SDS rotary hammer on the night deposit box?
You're not expecting too much from a brushless tool that's supposed to be in "prosumer" or entry-level contractor territory, which the HP line is supposed to be going for. Plenty of DIY homeowners and handymen are chopping up particle board+formica countertops in kitchen/bathroom remodels. Especially if they're too cheap to rent a dumpster and need to hide countertops in their regular trash haha.
Yup, Same bank.
I'm a contractor and I own the brushless version that uses the HP battery which is not the same as the new HP saw that you're using... However I want to say I've pushed my saw much harder than what I saw you doing and I've never had a problem or smoke the tool... I'm a little shocked and would be interested to hear what Ryobi has to say about it???
As far as the comments of Roby not being able to make a good reciprocating saw. That's a joke they make many very good reciprocating saws, in many names....lol
Same here. I've got 30+ hours in on this same HP recip with no issues. This weekend I demoed a whole shed with two 6AH batteries and two Diablo demo blades. The recip worked like a horse.
I wonder if they fixed this issue. I have an old ryobi saw and the one handed saw but I'm not a big fan of battery powered Sawzalls. I prefer to use my Dewalt corded one because well it works. I like having battery powered for some things like if I only need to make a couple cuts or in a area where power is either not an option or just to much trouble. Things have come a long way and I'm considering getting one. I mean circular saws or as I still call them skill saws are pretty awesome now days and I rarely use a corded one anymore. The 7¼"brushless skills saw is pretty sweet and works perfect for my needs. Anyway they have a few good deals one batteries and a free tool going on right now and I'm trying to decide which tool I want now lol. I have everything they have to offer except the leaf blower which I prefer gas, the SDS hammer drill which again I prefer corded plus it doesn't have hammer only, the cut off tool which I have the grinder already and not to impressed with it or this which I also wasn't impressed with the videos of blade popping out and burning up what I consider pretty easy. Decisions decisions lol. Not much to choose from lol.
Have you reviewed the Craftsman V20 20-Volt Max Variable Speed Brushless Cordless Reciprocating Saw Model #CMCS350B? If not I would be interested to see how it compares with your big dog dewalt reciprocating saw??
I have not yet.
This is sad and really disappointing. I’ve had great success with the Ryobi brushless line. The only HP tool I’ve bought so far is the new 40V hp chainsaw and it’s incredible. I think their OPE engineering team needs to help out their power tool team. The HP power tools seem to be all looks and less perf than the brushless models. If you compare the previous brushless angle grinder it actually has more rpms than the new HP model, what gives?
The HP part is a marketing gimmick to try to get people to upgrade to junk tools. Makes no sense
@@WorkshopAddict as a union carpenter if I see a fellow carpenter vested in Ryobi he will be they carpenter working by himself because we will think heis a half ass no good carpenter.
@@rickyperkins232 that's pathetic to judge the capabilities of a person by the tool brand they buy 🙄
@@paulmorris563 be honest with me do see any carpenters on any job sites with Ryobi?
If the GC see you using a Ryobi Miter saw he checking all your work in front of you and behind you
@@rickyperkins232 It’s the person that makes the tool not the tool that makes the worker. This is the dumbest comment ever.
Ryobi is a great option for people learning the trades. I even have a few ryobi tools mixed in with my Milwaukee and makita stuff on my job sites.
I know several people who have thousands in Milwaukee fuel 18v stuff and do really shoddy work. Your comment is irrelevant.
I have the little ryobi hp hackzall and I love it
Ironic this just showed up in my suggestions. I just got done cutting apart a 32 foot aluminum ladder into 3 foot lengths so about 20 cuts with an older (at least 10 years) ryobi reciprocating saw and diablo general purpose blade. No problems what so ever. Shame if newer stuff is inferior to older models.
Is ridgid tools like this? Wanted to purchase some as my first set of power tools
So, wait, you're not going to talk about the molding around the front and blow this tool up with explosives? How odd that a DIY level tool didn't hold up but one you buried and ran over still worked until you made it explode.
LOL. This was marketed by Ryobi as a Pro Level Contractor tool. If you review tools, you should have been watching that tool release with the thousands of others who seen the Ryobi team all say the HP tools are made for the contractor on the jobsite.
@@WorkshopAddict I was watching and doing a livestream with Philly Fixed, Joe the tool guy and the Den of Tools and we were all having a good laugh. I'm not trying to be critical of your videos, I was just saying you should have given the Ryobi the same level of treatment.
@@ToolswithSoAlz Tanerite is hard to find these days. Lol. Plus I sent that tool back to ryobi so they could see what happened.
@@WorkshopAddict that makes sense. Good video, very honest. I appreciate where you're coming from here.
Ryobi just doesn’t seem to be able to make a recip saw that will hold together. Before I bit the bullet and went to their red brother I had some Ryobi tools. I had the previous gen brushless recip saw and went through 3 of them in a matter of days and wasn’t pushing them hard just like I don’t think you were. We all know Ryobi doesn’t make tools for pros but some of their tools don’t even seem to stand up for a DIYer. Batteries aside you don’t have to spend THAT much more to get into a pro brand over the Ryobi now. Their brushless tools are creeping up closer to Milwaukee’s price point all the time. Ya, still cheaper, but not by much and when they don’t last which is the better value?
Great review.
Milwaukee and ryobi are made by the same company 😉😁
@@micjubba709 I’m aware. That’s why I said red brother.
@@derekbross6958 Agreed, I was looking for a 2nd battery platform to complement my Bosch 18V tools and was thinking about Ryobi. I ended up going with Milwaukee's M12 lineup for both a jigsaw and oscillating toold and ended up paying less than if I went with Ryobi. I don't regret it one bit.
@@derekbross6958 all my fellow carpenters frown on this brand not even apprentice carpenters use this brand on any jobsite.
As a matter of fact no trades on the jobsite uses Ryobi..
That’s disappointing. I have the older brushless recip saw (P517) and used it continuously for about an hour to remove a hedge in my backyard. Went through three 4.0 batteries in that hour. The tool got hot, but it didn’t smoke. It worked admirably and I was impressed. I’m surprised this upgraded HP brushless recip saw started smoking. You didn’t push it that hard, IMO. You only lost 1 bar on your first battery and I went through 3 full 4.0 batteries...no problems with the older brushless recip at all.
Same! I beat the hell out of mine for years. Still going strong. New stuff.. meh.
The new stuff is all junk.
@@WorkshopAddict the entire new HP lineup seems to be far crummier than the stuff it replaces. I’m a bit of a Green fanboy, but nearly every release with the pancake motor saw stress failures within their gearboxes/anvils/bearings in moderate use across multiple reviewers, or had safety cutoffs happening too soon to be useful. It’s frustrating as the prior generation all seemed built more than well enough to handle even occasional pro-level use and you’d expect at least parity with that.
I just don’t understand why the thermal protection isn’t jumping in and shutting off the tool.
The popping blades are unacceptable, period. And you’re not the only reviewer that had this issue.
Thermal protective sensors are normally placed where atypically demanding work loads are likely to cause equipment failures. In battery-powered tools, two places are top candidates: electric motors & batteries. The general assumption is that the driven mechanism will not produce sufficient heat from even very high work loads to cause equipment failures. The designers could have included a heat sensor in or on the driven mechanism, but that could not be justified because the proper strategy is to design the mechanism so it does not produce device-damaging waste heat, a clear indication of power-transfer inefficiency. Clearly Ryobi has a problem with this tool model's driven mechanism and they should take responsibility by compensating buyers and correcting the design used in future production. Going silent when an already marketed product becomes known to include any significant flaw is not a good strategy toward protecting market brand names.
That type saw has had issues but first for smoking . Usually the gears in front explode through case into your hand. No I don't hate royobie but I see they need to fix that one to .
I thought amp hour regards how long it will last. Does it also relate to power?
Better late than never I guess
It refers to capacity of charge it will hold, but when you have a higher charge available, the battery will sustain more amps and will give you more raw power. Lithium Ion batteries help fight that but they're not infallible. Much better than the alternative, but they still lessen as the capacity (small battery or battery running low) lowers.
I just ordered this saw but didn’t receive yet. Oh boy, we will see😮
Ryobi is still for very light residential use.
I have this saw and it also smokes when I cut 2x4’s
I’ve seen the old brushed Ryobi saws take far more than that. You just gave that one a light workout. Did it smell like it was the grease burning off?
Worked with a guy for 12 years who insisted on using Ryobi. For every tool we wore out he wore out 3. Never have I seen one give up that fast though.
It smelled like a combination of grease, hot metal and electronics.
thanks for honest review. tired of watching other paid reciewers - subscribed
I appreciate that!
Well done bro! Expose the truth for all owners and especially contractors! Cheers!
Is it better than dewalt’s brushed model?
That's a big no. Did you watch any of the video?
So investing in Makita is the best at this time 👍
I was gonna buy one of these new for $85 with the buy more save more. Glad I watched this first. How is anyone supposed to do demolition with this thing if it smokes after 1 cut, battery only down 1 bar. They need better cooling, maybe a built in fan would help
As always, you post an interesting honest video. You didn't push it hard at all. Smoking in 5 minutes doing something a DIY guy would be using it for. For Ryobi to say that's normal is absurd.
You didn't push it too hard at all. Seems the lubricating grease on the chuck and arm is sub standard for that level of performance demands. Meaning, the specifications of the saw, itself. 1.25" stroke at 3200 spm, the lubricant BEST be up to snuff!
Did anyone have a problem tith the blade popping out I did so I put a new blade and it happens again I took it back. After the 5th time it happened
Wow it burned up under normal use. Let me guess TTI told you not to post this?
Yes, I sent the saw and video to TTI. They never told me anything about the issue with the saw and would not replace it. Then told me not to post the video. Ha.
@@WorkshopAddict yeah that’s crap. The number one thing with tools is reliability and your weekend warrior wouldn’t even be able get a job done let alone a professional contractor. Thank you for being honest with your reviews. Subbed
Have the same problem today with pretty normal use like cutting tree branches
Contractor or DIY makes no difference. If you can't dismantle one counter as a pro, I won't be able to tear out a few walls for my one time diy demolition and remodel project.
Thanks for the review, I think my 20yr old corded Porter Cable will be dusted off and called back into action one more time.
That's a ton of deflection on the ryobi shaft when you pull on it causing the shaft to rub on the seals and everything in a way that when your cutting its causing it to melt the seals or rub the house probably why its smoking
What you did is basic demo. If a recip saw can’t handle that then there’s something wrong with it. It wasn’t you pushing it too hard.
Amen! I took a lot of heat from this video because I was pushing the saw too hard for a DIY saw, but then some claim it to be a pro saw. So who knows.
@@WorkshopAddict The HP series is consider their Pro line. A lot of the HP tool do great at sub-pro and even pro grade work. However, some of the tools have issues that need to be worked out. Especially when it comes to the saws. Considering the HP line was developed and released in just over a year there are going to be bugs that need addressed. I love the review and keep up the great work.
@@jamesrbrink9645 Ryobi is owned by TTI, who owns the maker of the original Sawzall, Milwaukee. I have to assume they know how to build one without bugs! Also, don't let your core user base be your testing dummies. It took me 10 minutes to smoke it? Maybe less. Ryobi is heading a own hill.
@@WorkshopAddict o hard for a diy hahaha thats a joke,
@@WorkshopAddict You’re right. They should know how to make a recip saw. What makes it even worse is that Ryobi’s new CEO came from Milwaukee and this entire line is his baby. I like Ryobi snd have several of their tools. However, for any job that is even remotely heavy duty I go straight to my Bosch tools. I know they’ll get the job done and won’t break. But, that’s just me. I personally think they’re trying to get high performance with cheaper parts and it’s just not working.
Honest reviews…this is how TH-camrs gets themselves black listed from getting tools
As a Ryobi fan, I’m not sure that they are made for the contractor that pushes their tools right to the max. I guess some jobs require that, but as these projects are bid, price should include wear and tear. Recip saws are given a hard way to go in the demo process. I like seeing these tools pushed, but in the real world I would try to make as few cuts as possible. I know that Ryobi HP line is pushed to the contractor but I don’t think it’s quite there yet. I enjoyed the video.
Ryobi advertises the HP line to contractors and a few cuts through this is nothing, even for a guy at home.
Idk because I have one same set up an I’ve cut more plus went outside an cut branches too a no smoke at all! But like you said it really not contractor grade it’s a great diy brand!
haha, is cutting a few pieces of wood pushing it to the max? not even close
@promo130 Well, that broke it.
@@WorkshopAddict yeah junk
My corded Ryobi recip saw just got trashed because it wouldn't hold onto blades. Also the blades carved up the shoe because the design was bad. Didn't smoke though.
Up in Smoke, Still Smokin, you must like Cheech and Chong movies, lol. Great review, I have this recip saw, it replaced one I bought from Harbor Freight.
My personal opinion is now you’re not pushing it that hard I run my Milwaukee saws all extremely hard it is held up just fine if the blade pops out that tells you a lot about the quality of the tool that would be frustrating for even though operator who’s up on the manlift and the blade falls out onto the floor now he has to go back down there and go grab another blade or keep a pack of blades up there I know a lot of young apprentices who buy Ryobi tools but in reality I would tell him to stay away from it if that’s the case or what they’re producing
You're not pushing it too hard at all.
Great video! Have to pass on the green.
the smoking is not a good thing
I have an older gen cordless recip (not brushless) and it has never smoked, It does get warm for extended cuts though.
Thanks for honest review 👍
Always!
Wrong blade for the job without a doubt. Cutting very slow to start with, the correct blade should cut that twice as fast, My Ryoby 18V Jigsaw would cut that faster and without overheating.
One day I used my Ridgid brushed Sawzall to cut a stump out of the ground. I ran it hard and it survived. I did this at my own home so I would say Ryobi needs to fix their Sawzall
I'm thinking I might ditch my Ryobi tools and go with Harbor Freight Bauer cordless tools. I have some of the Ryobi tools that are blue when I first bought them in 1997 that are still running strong. The past few years they have really gone down hill in quality.
I would stick with Ryobi......harbor freight is Junk and gone WAY down hill lately.....prices have gone up! They are a crashing ship company.
I would not go with any harbor freight power tool brand. You dont know how long those brands will be around until they decide to come out with another random brands. Just like walmarts hart brand. Who knows when they will do away with it. Just like STANLEY . i know they weren't power tools but still there gone .
Except you are trying to compare it to Milwaukee or Dewalt. The comparison should be against other recip saws at the same price point. If you want to be the boss at contractor type work, you pony up the cash for the contractor grade tool. Everyone knows this.
Honestly I’ve never used a recip saw for fine slow cutting, maybe some do. My experience is fast aggressive cutting into metal or embedded wood. It looks to me with the pressure put on it the shaft bent. Recip saws are typically made for demo work. I see that it might work for a DYIer to cut the odd door jam but not for continuous use. Great work Brian.
I think you only gave the saw a light working, I have beaten Milwaukee and DeWalt recip saws to the brink of death, I'm talking 6 hours of straight demolition,non stop cutting day after day. And they still worked every time I turned them on or needed to do another demo job. The saws are still working to this day. So if it's smoking let it smoke,push it some more and see what she'll take. If it dies on you take it apart and see what failed it. It's Great seeing the truth with these tools and what they can handle or their flaws and merits.
Just my opinion but the guide that the recip runs on is either too big and not tight enough fit or the rod is 2 flexible and thus creating excessive friction during to not sliding in and out straight and creating the flex on the blade
I don’t like the outcome as a ryobi user. Facts are facts, I too broke my recip saw tearing down a large shed. First white smoke, then black. Then R.I.P.
ran the thing for 5 to 7 hours straight. Yes, I have too many batteries. But it is an entry level tool. You build a house with Milwaukee, you can maintain a house with Ryobi. Thank you for the content and straightforward results.
Ryobi isnt trade grade only diy light use all they good for
I've done more cuts than that with mine and it didn't smoke
Do you plan on returning this piece of junk?
Clearly its a Fail.
If any power tool heats up you gotta give it a rest. Heat + motor = adios tool.
I have a worx brush reciprocating saw that cuts better then that saw but it does get heated up but cuts some things like butter well it would have to be tested to say that ryobi has good brushless drills, impacts and circular saws and etc but there sawsaw to me are awful I heard the one hand saw is good but one hand saw is not as strong as a regular reciprocating saw but ryobi should work on that even if they had to copy the competition models of there saws or put more metal on there tools they keep trying to go plastic and sometimes in areas that get hot they put plastic which is a bad move on there part and everyone says it’s not meant for that like the subcompact impact driver that has a plastic housing where the impact mechanism works inside gets really hot but they are not being smart but no one will use it that people are saying to use the impact driver with the plastic subcompact impact driver when it may have the same specs to almost the same as the four mode impact driver to me makes no sense.
I don't think you were pushing very hard at all that's what a recip is used for @WorkshopAddict
This tool is $130 at HD opposed to $230 for the Milwaukee version. Looks like the extra $$$ spent would be worth it indeed.
Are you talking about the super sawzall? I thought the regular fuel sawzall was around 180?
@@xmrpaintx1 I saw the regular sawzall with battery at the HD website for $230.
No just go on ebay and get the previous brushless ryobi sawsall and call it a day
looks like you working on bank teller station
Yes, we purchased a bank and turned it into an office for us.
This is the type of work a reciprocating saw is made for. If this is to much it should be marketed as a home use or "light duty" saw. I have used these saws all my life as an elevator mechanic and had them get so hot you couldn't touch them but never did one of them smoke. Maybe just a lemon.
I have a friend who also smoked his, but won't post the video. Not a lemon.
Hey, even a home gamer is gonna demo a countertop now and then. No excuse for a dismal showing like this. If they won't stand behind it, that's even more disappointing.
@@WorkshopAddict Trying to be generous.
I am glad I just bought the Metabo reciprocating saw
It's a real beast!
Tbh with the first cut I would have made the cut away from the edge halfway and keep going since the extra flying around might have made extra heat, and also if it's not the motor it's not that big of a problem. But they definitely need to put better parts in these tools. Now hammer drill is a beast but sawzalls are kinda junk. I'd still recommend it but definitely go easy as possible on it so you don't break it.
But why buy a hammer drill that you have to be as easy as possible on so it does not break when a good one is only $25 more?
@@WorkshopAddict I'm in Canada so that 25$ is more like 125 with taxes and I was talking about the sawzall
What I don't like about it is I can't get parts for it. 🤬
You are not expecting to much, Ryobi gas been saying their tools are for the pros.
Thats a vcg Smoke show babyyyy🤣🤣
Needs some grease too much friction causes smoke.
Sure its smokin ur after slaving it.it will smoke if u use dewalt or makita same way
Ryobi has never made a good sawzall -- period. I have the previous brushless and smoked it within one minute while cutting some tree roots, admittedly I was pushing it a bit. Did the same thing with the one-handed Ryobi cutting tree roots. The motor doesn't seem to be the problem, it's the drive train. One good thing is I've never once had a problem with Ryobi batteries but I just hate pulling out extension cords for my Milwaukee and the batteries for my Dewalt are at the end of their lives so I'll just keep using Ole Smoky until it dies.
Got and old blue one using new 4ah batteries. Runs circles around this new saw. Its old and i use it alot for cutting slats off pallets.
I went through 5 different green saw-all in 2 months ! U bought a red saw and ain't had 1 minutes of trouble
No orbital makes it weaker than thr previous model imo. Makes no sense it has no orbital for its price
Bet of you open that up, the two additional contacts go nowhere...
I fix these things for my job. They're trash. The moving parts are made of pot metal, and underneath that rubber piece you'll find that half of the gear case is made of cheap plastic.
I don't like the newer lithium + hp high performance branded batteries don't like they went back to the old style 18v lithium battery indicator i like the older style p192 4ah lithium +hp battery indicator that step up in size like a phone signal icon @WorkshopAddict
not built the same way the fuel and ridgid brushless are
I put mine through more abuse than that in the video and it does fine. And the blade had never came off once. Cutting trees branches, damp too not dry and it's 4-6 inches in diameter. More thick than what this guy is cutting. I must say he is using the wrong blade or a dulled one. Loo at long it takes for him to more through the cut. It's the blade man. Not cutting through quick and put more stressed on the motor. Com'on. Common sense. Mine recip saw was the brushed one too. Maybe Ryobi HP line is not good.
They are new blades bud. Yours is brushed and 10 times better, see here. th-cam.com/video/RJCLL50RvEQ/w-d-xo.html
I've been a fan of Ryobi products for years, but am slowly moving away to other brands - not even being brand specific. I also do a lot of research into brands not owned or manufactured in China, which makes tool hunting even more difficult.
you sir have smoked more Ryobi's than I have smoked Hondas
How can I be the only tool reviewer who smokes the Ryobi tools? For as many as I have issues with, it is impossible. Some are hiding this.
That is a ton of smoke wow
I use their big brother red tools, they are great; however, their green machine is junk.
Front the reciep bends all over 😂
If it ain't fixed,don't use it.