@@sexyhijabidancer2139 suleiman had a harem so he could sleep with multiple women but Ibrahim was married to hatice so if he was sleeping with other women then it was fornication ( btw hatice and Ibrahim were never married in real life :) ).
@@sexyhijabidancer2139 Suleiman’s duty to the Ottoman Empire is to have as many sons as possible in order to perpetuate the dynasty. Hürrem’s job is to give him one son. Instead, Suleiman was apparently as monogamous as a man in his position could be, and freed her, married her, and made her Empress. In return, Hürrem slept in his bed, gave him children and raised them well. Ibrahim’s duty was to be a loyal subject (he wasn’t - he committed treason), a good friend (he wasn’t - he tried to hurt his best friend’s wife and kids), and a good husband (he wasn’t - he slept with his wife’s employee). I can understand Hatiçe’s feelings, but wow are they wasted on that embezzling philanderer.
@@nielubieinceli nowadays, yes. Back then? No. Roxelana - who was renamed Hurrem upon entering the harem - was captured as a slave and sold to the Sultan for use as a bed-slave. In this story, she grew to love him, despite their circumstances. In reality, love was neither a requirement nor a benefit.
Şah is the only sister Süleyman believed and i think, only person he never think bad about besides Şehzade Mehmed and Cihangir. Even after this accident, he blamed Hatiçe only.
What Hattice has is not love it is obsession and Ibrahim did not deserve her devotion he was a liar and had a secret family. It was a toxic relationship.
I would have found my husband's infidelity to be a blessing in disguise if I was in Hattice's shoes and if that meant I can marry someone who will actually love me and not CHEAT ON ME or abuse me when he gets angry and hits women in anger and rage I would be thankful to my brother for a new husband
@@maiphuongtran2790 What do you think? Sultanas were robots without emotions and choices? You should go through forced marriages to feel the humiliation.
@@sexyhijabidancer2139 Women attach more importance to marriage than they should. A prince would forget a dead wife and move on like it was nothing....!!!
@@ankitadubey9986 It's ironic you say that as this show has Suleiman, like in history, falling into a deep, extended mourning after Hurrem's death and never being with another woman.
But she could see that from miles away, how slowly Ibrahim was walking towards the fire by pretending to be a sultan and say stuff like I control the lion(sultan) like ringmaster.
Did you know...ibrahim and Hatice not A forced married ...Hatice demand that..And Ibrahim just leave letter to Sulaiman about his feeling and Run to homeland pargali.
Why everyone is so enamored with Shah Sultan, I don't understand. Yes, she is smart and prudent, but at the same time she is absolutely indifferent and cold. She has a secret grudge against life and the whole world. Once in her youth, she was in love with Ibrahim. Apparently he also sympathized with her, but when it came time to choose, Ibrahim most likely refused her. How Tyshlydzhaly abandoned Mihrimah for the sake of a career with Mustafa. And then Shah Sultan was married not for love, and she left somewhere in the province. All this time she was angry with Ibrahim and the family, she envied Hatice, who had Ibrahim and who was the most beloved sister and daughter.
Idk. I don't like it. I don't lime how Suleiman is acting : like hatice is now the root of all damn evil like _i only killed her husband, the love of her life, she should forgive me and move on_ ( I'm aware it was toxic , but that's not the point .) His character is literally just bending into having no spine tbh. Even with Hürrem, she gets away with so much damn stiff now tbh. I don't understand his character, it's become so stupid. Feel like sometime ago he would discipline everyone and any one for doing wrong : even Hürrem, but now he's just so biased , he's lost his sense of humanity for anyone other than himself , not even Hürrem . I don't think he even had a proper discussion with Hürrem just as husband and wife in a long time.
Why can't her brother leave his sister alone like come on her husband died. Just her live the remainder of her life in peace with her kids it not much to ask.
I think it's exactly because she's *not* living peacefully. But, in all honesty, there are better ways for him to have dealt with things then this, such as sending her to live with Beyhan.
@@hjurassic7142 Because she was an Ottoman, she was doing wrong. The dynasty do not accept chaos or void. Hoarding Ibrahim's wealth was also treason. If left alone, others will try it, so she has to be made to behave according to the rules.
Hatice is soo annoying with constantly playing the victim card 🙄 Ibrahim loved Nigar not her. Deniz is so beautiful here despite her (negative) character
@@Dana-dj7lmIbrahim loved neither Nigar, nor Hatice. He cheated on Hatice, and abandoned Nigar as soon as Hatice found out. Ibrahim only loved Ibrahim.
About Hatice: this wasn't love, it was Illusion. She wanted that Strength her Feelings show her, but they are also bad: jealousy, revenge, Sadness up to the Will of ending her Life herself, more than once. She is desperate (maybe because she had to silence as child and couldn't get all she wanted)! I wonder what Emperor she would have been, if she would have been born as a Shehzade?! 😀
God Hatice is so annoying. Listen, the actress is phenomenal but the character is just obnoxious. Ibrahim cheated on her, fathered a child with his mistress, and wasn't even sorry but she's not going to, "betray his memory" my remarrying? GIRL, get it together!
People blaming Hatice for still loving Ibrahim and saying she doesn't have any dignity as a princess. But remember Hurrem also loves Suleiman even after she got hurt by his actions so many times. When Suleiman was with Isabella, firuze.Also later when Hurrem had 5 children behind her but still chose to commit suicide when Suleiman was poisoned. Y'all call that true love but Hatice's love isn't love . It's sick.I think if Suleiman died before Hurrem would've committe suicide too. Leaving her kids behind. In my opinion both of these women are sick. None of these men deserved to be loved this devotedly.
the difference is hurrem was kidnapped and sold into slavery and having mehmed when she was a literal child ibrahim much like the rest of the ottoman authorities was stolen from his home and his parents and had to fetch for himself like hurrem hurrem clearly had stockholm syndrome from everything she went throught and no i don’t consider marriage between neither as true love and that stands for the real story as well,nothing romantic about kidnapping someone from their loved ones
@@hurremhightower yeah I agree Hurrem got so attached to Suleiman bcz she lost her family before, that makes sense. But hatice getting obsessed with Ibrahim also made sense I think. Actually hatice was in love with Ibrahim since childhood and always wanted to be with him. There were flashbacks about this. And hatice never got any chance to express her feelings in the beginning. Then she was married twice to another men. Both times she got widowed . And at last after so many struggles she finally got Ibrahim. To her it was like a fairytale and her childhood dream was coming true. So it created a mentality in her that everything will be sooo perfect from now on . She couldn't accept reality and couldn't tolerate any hard moments. Her obsession for Ibrahim made sense according to her character. but I don't hate her for that , neither do I like it. It's just I pity on her.
at this point they killed Hatice's character. She was such a graceful and intelligent princess but now she just acts batshit crazy! She get angry at everything and anything and lashes out at people who are trying their best to help her. Idk at this point she just went from a graceful princess to a barking dog... such a waste of a beautiful character
@@sexyhijabidancer2139 you crazy? Did I say I support it? Its the process back then, dumb. Hatice likes it or not can't decide, if Suleiman wants it it will happen, she ll marry and move to another palace, that's how it goes that era.
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09:15 Finally someone said the truth in front of Hatice. Ibrahim was so not worth the love she gave him
It's Hatice's choice whether she should love her husband or not. Suleiman kept sleeping with multiple women, still Hurrem kept running after him
@@sexyhijabidancer2139 suleiman had a harem so he could sleep with multiple women but Ibrahim was married to hatice so if he was sleeping with other women then it was fornication ( btw hatice and Ibrahim were never married in real life :) ).
@@sexyhijabidancer2139 Suleiman’s duty to the Ottoman Empire is to have as many sons as possible in order to perpetuate the dynasty. Hürrem’s job is to give him one son. Instead, Suleiman was apparently as monogamous as a man in his position could be, and freed her, married her, and made her Empress. In return, Hürrem slept in his bed, gave him children and raised them well.
Ibrahim’s duty was to be a loyal subject (he wasn’t - he committed treason), a good friend (he wasn’t - he tried to hurt his best friend’s wife and kids), and a good husband (he wasn’t - he slept with his wife’s employee).
I can understand Hatiçe’s feelings, but wow are they wasted on that embezzling philanderer.
@@cloverazar5315 whaaaaat. In marriage, woman sleeps with a man out of love not duty or gratitude.
@@nielubieinceli nowadays, yes. Back then? No. Roxelana - who was renamed Hurrem upon entering the harem - was captured as a slave and sold to the Sultan for use as a bed-slave.
In this story, she grew to love him, despite their circumstances.
In reality, love was neither a requirement nor a benefit.
Sah really takes after the late Valide, the way she talks and thinks, elegant. In my opinion, she looks quite like Cersei Lannister, but less vicious
Is valida hafsa, mother of sah huban?
Or is she daughter of some other concubine of late Sultan selim?
@@munazah9838 her mother not valide hafsa
Valide is not Sha's mother.
@@bobthecat2404 in real life maybe not, but in the show Suleiman told to Shah directly "OUR late mother".
Cersei też była suką
Sah Sultan, the only pure blood Princess who has an intelligence to manage the grey issue like that
Pure ? How ?
Their costumes are everything
Şah is the only sister Süleyman believed and i think, only person he never think bad about besides Şehzade Mehmed and Cihangir. Even after this accident, he blamed Hatiçe only.
Shah knows how to fake smile, thats why!
Because the gold belongs to Hatice and Sah intended to transfer it to the State's treasury
It is easy to blame Hatice because she is mentally unstable and capable of anything
What Hattice has is not love it is obsession and Ibrahim did not deserve her devotion he was a liar and had a secret family. It was a toxic relationship.
Love doesn't see all this
Wrong there are many marriages that lasted even if there are secret families.
I would have found my husband's infidelity to be a blessing in disguise if I was in Hattice's shoes and if that meant I can marry someone who will actually love me and not CHEAT ON ME or abuse me when he gets angry and hits women in anger and rage I would be thankful to my brother for a new husband
No matter what anyone say,Hatice did loved Ibrahim unconditionally no matter that worse he did...
Shah looks beautiful with her curly hair loose 😍
Turkish actresses are so pretty!
Sulieman: “I only killed her husband and love of her life! Why can’t she just forgive and forget already?!”
Yeah I 100% agree with u
Because she is a princess. Princesses married off for political purposes as usual. Being a widow is not a problem to the sultanas.
@@maiphuongtran2790 What do you think? Sultanas were robots without emotions and choices? You should go through forced marriages to feel the humiliation.
@@sexyhijabidancer2139 Women attach more importance to marriage than they should. A prince would forget a dead wife and move on like it was nothing....!!!
@@ankitadubey9986 It's ironic you say that as this show has Suleiman, like in history, falling into a deep, extended mourning after Hurrem's death and never being with another woman.
mercan just drools when he sees sah.
"I thought she would get forget and her anger would end in time"...man you killed her husband, father of her children and love of her live 😕
But she could see that from miles away, how slowly Ibrahim was walking towards the fire by pretending to be a sultan and say stuff like I control the lion(sultan) like ringmaster.
Didn't he also called himself the sultan which is why he died as shown in the show
Bali Bey was not fooled he knows what the two women were up to !
True, & Suleman wasn't fooled either 👍.
A forced marriage is never a good idea (neither in past nor in present times).
And forbidden in Islam
Did you know...ibrahim and Hatice not A forced married ...Hatice demand that..And Ibrahim just leave letter to Sulaiman about his feeling and Run to homeland pargali.
Why everyone is so enamored with Shah Sultan, I don't understand. Yes, she is smart and prudent, but at the same time she is absolutely indifferent and cold. She has a secret grudge against life and the whole world. Once in her youth, she was in love with Ibrahim. Apparently he also sympathized with her, but when it came time to choose, Ibrahim most likely refused her. How Tyshlydzhaly abandoned Mihrimah for the sake of a career with Mustafa. And then Shah Sultan was married not for love, and she left somewhere in the province. All this time she was angry with Ibrahim and the family, she envied Hatice, who had Ibrahim and who was the most beloved sister and daughter.
Idk. I don't like it. I don't lime how Suleiman is acting : like hatice is now the root of all damn evil like
_i only killed her husband, the love of her life, she should forgive me and move on_
( I'm aware it was toxic , but that's not the point .)
His character is literally just bending into having no spine tbh. Even with Hürrem, she gets away with so much damn stiff now tbh. I don't understand his character, it's become so stupid. Feel like sometime ago he would discipline everyone and any one for doing wrong : even Hürrem, but now he's just so biased , he's lost his sense of humanity for anyone other than himself , not even Hürrem . I don't think he even had a proper discussion with Hürrem just as husband and wife in a long time.
Why can't her brother leave his sister alone like come on her husband died. Just her live the remainder of her life in peace with her kids it not much to ask.
But she is not looking after kids she is after hurrem and hiding ibrahim's things.
@@comradeleppi2000 and she is doing right because Hurrem started interfering in their life Hurrem was the one starting all
I think it's exactly because she's *not* living peacefully. But, in all honesty, there are better ways for him to have dealt with things then this, such as sending her to live with Beyhan.
@@Redluna32 I agree
@@hjurassic7142 Because she was an Ottoman, she was doing wrong. The dynasty do not accept chaos or void. Hoarding Ibrahim's wealth was also treason. If left alone, others will try it, so she has to be made to behave according to the rules.
Hatice is soo annoying with constantly playing the victim card 🙄 Ibrahim loved Nigar not her. Deniz is so beautiful here despite her (negative) character
Ibrahim never loved Nigar, hi himself said that she was his mistake, he always loved Hatice.
@@Dana-dj7lmIbrahim loved neither Nigar, nor Hatice. He cheated on Hatice, and abandoned Nigar as soon as Hatice found out. Ibrahim only loved Ibrahim.
About Hatice: this wasn't love, it was Illusion. She wanted that Strength her Feelings show her, but they are also bad: jealousy, revenge, Sadness up to the Will of ending her Life herself, more than once. She is desperate (maybe because she had to silence as child and couldn't get all she wanted)!
I wonder what Emperor she would have been, if she would have been born as a Shehzade?! 😀
Şah is really intelligent
Cunningness is not intelligence.
@@kayodewayes it is
God Hatice is so annoying. Listen, the actress is phenomenal but the character is just obnoxious. Ibrahim cheated on her, fathered a child with his mistress, and wasn't even sorry but she's not going to, "betray his memory" my remarrying? GIRL, get it together!
People blaming Hatice for still loving Ibrahim and saying she doesn't have any dignity as a princess. But remember Hurrem also loves Suleiman even after she got hurt by his actions so many times. When Suleiman was with Isabella, firuze.Also later when Hurrem had 5 children behind her but still chose to commit suicide when Suleiman was poisoned. Y'all call that true love but Hatice's love isn't love . It's sick.I think if Suleiman died before Hurrem would've committe suicide too. Leaving her kids behind. In my opinion both of these women are sick. None of these men deserved to be loved this devotedly.
the difference is hurrem was kidnapped and sold into slavery and having mehmed when she was a literal child
ibrahim much like the rest of the ottoman authorities was stolen from his home and his parents and had to fetch for himself like hurrem
hurrem clearly had stockholm syndrome from everything she went throught
and no i don’t consider marriage between neither as true love
and that stands for the real story as well,nothing romantic about kidnapping someone from their loved ones
@@hurremhightower yeah I agree Hurrem got so attached to Suleiman bcz she lost her family before, that makes sense. But hatice getting obsessed with Ibrahim also made sense I think. Actually hatice was in love with Ibrahim since childhood and always wanted to be with him. There were flashbacks about this. And hatice never got any chance to express her feelings in the beginning. Then she was married twice to another men. Both times she got widowed . And at last after so many struggles she finally got Ibrahim. To her it was like a fairytale and her childhood dream was coming true. So it created a mentality in her that everything will be sooo perfect from now on . She couldn't accept reality and couldn't tolerate any hard moments. Her obsession for Ibrahim made sense according to her character. but I don't hate her for that , neither do I like it. It's just I pity on her.
at this point they killed Hatice's character. She was such a graceful and intelligent princess but now she just acts batshit crazy! She get angry at everything and anything and lashes out at people who are trying their best to help her. Idk at this point she just went from a graceful princess to a barking dog... such a waste of a beautiful character
That's the process, you will marry and move to another palace.
You really hate her leave her alone for once in your life
@@xoverona I didn't say anything bad here lolololo. That's how things worked back in that time.
@@DimSK. How pathetic. You are supporting forced marriages now? You really need to stop.
@@xoverona Yes, she does the same thing everywhere in every single comment. Disgusting!
@@sexyhijabidancer2139 you crazy? Did I say I support it? Its the process back then, dumb. Hatice likes it or not can't decide, if Suleiman wants it it will happen, she ll marry and move to another palace, that's how it goes that era.
I think the Sultan made the right decision marrying Hatice off, she gets a new man and a new palace, she needed a way to get over Ibrahim.
She didn’t want to get married. A forced marriage is haram and void in Islam. Also it would have made her far more depressed
Well Hatice with her great ‘love’ being all about the gold. Great love for wealth! 😂
Shah really just spoke facts
For once I actuelly agree with sha
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U marry with another man,, that is because ur fault 😅😅😅
It’s not her fault. Suleiman should never force marriage on anyone. It’s a huge sin.