Brendan Rodgers On The Match | Dundee United 0-0 Celtic (22/12/24)

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  • @chrisd3211
    @chrisd3211 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    There is no panic this team has been unreal this season. Still unbeaten an another clean sheet a trophy in the bag and 9 clear 👌

    • @OneForTheNorth
      @OneForTheNorth 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@chrisd3211 hear hear! Some folk are a tad hysterical 😂

    • @ononewheellad
      @ononewheellad 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      -2 in Dundee.

    • @ononewheellad
      @ononewheellad 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@OneForTheNorth -2 in Dundee.

  • @Celticsamuraiblue
    @Celticsamuraiblue 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Still unbeaten domestically, Hail Hail 🍀😎

  • @davidconnor8380
    @davidconnor8380 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    Uch still 9 points clear and a trophy already in the cabinet. No worries whatsoever 😎🍀

    • @ononewheellad
      @ononewheellad 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      -2 up in Dundee.

  • @dmgsoultogetherness6667
    @dmgsoultogetherness6667 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    jeez that was painful....some real basic errors...passing control etc....

  • @OzzyTravels
    @OzzyTravels 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    Some people acting like it's the end of the world. United were never going to come and play just to drop all 3 points. It's not pretty football but they took points of rangers at Ibrox playing like this. We were away from home, poor conditions and half the squad out. I think all considered we done all we could today and this should be a game to learn from and game time for fringe players, it has some positives

    • @Bawheidbob
      @Bawheidbob 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      Ofc same old story if it's not 5-0 it's a disaster for many

    • @1888.cfc.
      @1888.cfc. 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Bawheidbob I'm tying my best here

    • @michelleshaw2668
      @michelleshaw2668 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      to top that of my firestick keeps going off while I'm trying to watch the darts 😢😢😢

    • @OzzyTravels
      @OzzyTravels 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @michelleshaw2668 who cares about darts?

    • @mmcc5846
      @mmcc5846 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Dundee utd have lost all there games this by one goal that's we were 5th in the league

  • @liammcguire8722
    @liammcguire8722 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    not the guy singing oh the rangers are shite 😂

    • @1888.cfc.
      @1888.cfc. 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Rangers are 💩

    • @JoeBoag
      @JoeBoag 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @dougie6886
    @dougie6886 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    It was just one of those games.

  • @GlasgowCelticforever1888
    @GlasgowCelticforever1888 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +54

    That was grim and if anyone wants to know why Yang,Palma, Welsh & Ralston do not play more games then today was your answer. Never in a million years are they the standard required to be Celtic players.

    • @michaelmcgill-uu5ox
      @michaelmcgill-uu5ox 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Disagree ralston rest a would let go

    • @GlasgowCelticforever1888
      @GlasgowCelticforever1888 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelmcgill-uu5oxthis isn’t Michael McGill fae the Gorbals?

    • @johnsteel9781
      @johnsteel9781 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      It had nothing to do with Welsh who had a decent games as did the whole of the defence. The midfield is devoid of creativity and the strikers are firing blanks

    • @michelleshaw2668
      @michelleshaw2668 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      we were utter 💩💩💩💩🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

    • @MyBall2442
      @MyBall2442 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      Welsh did not do anything wrong today and Ralston is a very important squad player.

  • @slippy67
    @slippy67 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    77.6% of the ball and done absolutely SFA with it! Dundee Utd just watching us play a 90 min passing warm up in front of them

  • @therealisation5500
    @therealisation5500 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    My neighbour called his big dug Kyogo i seen him at half two kicking its arse hail hail
    Four leaf clover happy face emoji's with sunglasses on

  • @jk12114
    @jk12114 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Merry Christmas GLASGOW CELTIC
    💚💛

  • @1888.cfc.
    @1888.cfc. 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

    Thank God we have the luxury of being so far infront. 🤔
    Not good enough Celtic.

    • @_Kid_Buu_
      @_Kid_Buu_ 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Unless the refs help you out again, It'll only be 6pts ahead in two weeks. Squeeky bum time for your lot lol.

    • @1888.cfc.
      @1888.cfc. 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      @_Kid_Buu_ Hey hun don't embarrass yourself and get cocky. Yous were on top last season and bottled it 3wks in. Celtic can and WILL recover from missing out on all 3 points. When it really matters can Yous? We all know the answer.
      Mind the gap

    • @kaizer1903
      @kaizer1903 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Aye, the bubbles burst, POP! 😂

    • @kaizer1903
      @kaizer1903 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@_Kid_Buu_Sevconians celebrating the 2nd place trophy now, that's aboot ah yous will achieve.

    • @ononewheellad
      @ononewheellad 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      -2 up in Dundee. 😂

  • @stephcfc1
    @stephcfc1 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We defo need more in when January window comes our 2nd best are not good enough, maybe if 1 or 2 play but not what we had on today except cowan, he’s the bhoy 🍀

  • @NapoleonDynamites
    @NapoleonDynamites 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not a great result but definitely nothing to get worried about. It was one of those cold wet December away result we get every other season. As always a three o clock kick off would have suited us better, always does when we are away to Dundee/Aberdeen ICT in December/January.

  • @davieferguson202
    @davieferguson202 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    We continue to move the ball too slow. We don’t have players who can take it into feet and create the spaces or wide men who can hit the by line and put crosses into the strikers. Why does it take running out of time before we up the pace in games? Frustratingly poor

  • @stephengrady184
    @stephengrady184 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That was a really hard watch.
    Get to the last 3rd of the park then turn & pass backwards does ma nut in didn’t & don’t create enough chances for the strikers, the day after first 5 mins could tell was screaming out for 2men up top & 3 at the back.

  • @kevinbyrne3012
    @kevinbyrne3012 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    14 wins out of 16, not bad going

  • @luckylivingfree6273
    @luckylivingfree6273 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Having a big squad is great but this much rotation is harming the team and if it doesn’t get fixed they’re gonna catch us

  • @liamroche5845
    @liamroche5845 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    It was basically jst crap. As soon as i seen the line up, i knew we weren't going to win that today.

  • @Constitutionalist52
    @Constitutionalist52 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +19

    Standards have dropped recently, lacking quality up front and midfield unable to give decent service to the forwards , boring to watch to be honest .

    • @craigjohnson1550
      @craigjohnson1550 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What standards?

    • @paddy.g4182
      @paddy.g4182 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Up front 11million 10 million for those strikers they are crap

    • @NapoleonDynamites
      @NapoleonDynamites 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂😂😂​@paddy.g4182 They had one bad day at the office ffs, Celtic are still miles ahead of anything in Scotland

    • @paddy.g4182
      @paddy.g4182 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @NapoleonDynamites I know I'm slagging but them 2 big money men aren't doing nothing

    • @GerrardNelson
      @GerrardNelson 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@NapoleonDynamites that’s the problem mate, we need to be way better than that to keep the distance between us and the rank and file

  • @CeltHalevi
    @CeltHalevi 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Does Kyogo not love us anymore?

    • @MichaelFlynn-ow1lt
      @MichaelFlynn-ow1lt 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      He has definitely checked out doesn’t look happy thesedays

    • @AuldScot1888
      @AuldScot1888 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@MichaelFlynn-ow1lt
      I'd say the same about Hatate. Maybe both pining for Daddy Ange?!

  • @voidpex
    @voidpex 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nice one let's give rangers hope 👏

  • @chrisgemmell2742
    @chrisgemmell2742 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Absolutely shit performance as it has been for weeks something needs to improve we had the chance to go further ahead and we didnt anyway rant over onwards and upwards

    • @craigjohnson1550
      @craigjohnson1550 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Shit league mate

  • @s4zils154
    @s4zils154 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Cany win them aw Treble 🏆🏆🏆 in the bag 💚🤍🧡

  • @Chicotime93OM
    @Chicotime93OM 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Brendan's managing the squad for the post Xmas run in. Scud the dafties at their own ground and seal champions league qualification in January. Oh good times. Yang and Palma are not it though. Needing at least another LW in the January window

  • @NicholasStewart-lu5kn
    @NicholasStewart-lu5kn ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bet you said that about Khun last season

  • @garymccolm1112
    @garymccolm1112 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We've been so off our game since leipzig game is it something Rogers has done if so he needs to rewind very quickly

  • @danieljames3895
    @danieljames3895 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It shows the PERSONALITY of our players when they run like men in Dundee . . . who . . . normally buy stadiums and call themselves Dundee Utd.
    I don't know if that's true?

  • @jamescoyle2673
    @jamescoyle2673 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hard place to go but again still unbeaten and top off the league by 9 points great position to be in aye its disappointing to drop points ofcourse it is but let's be honest the league is by. No one honestly thinks Celtic will lost 3 games plus for them to stay unbeaten for the rest off the season. The bhoys worked hard and not going to win every game it's no fifa. Sometimes you just have they days but win lose draw what the hell do we care cause we only know theres going to be a show and the Glasgow Celtic will be there. Support them when they need us the most no just when they win hail hail 🍀

  • @stephenkelly2779
    @stephenkelly2779 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Time to invest in barrowfield asap we buy players like Yang , Palma, Arne yet we had the quality st the 70s top class kids .

  • @5ive5ingerDiscount
    @5ive5ingerDiscount 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    These comments 🤔 how can you blame two defenders Welsh and Ralston for the result today, They kept a good clean sheet the players deffo didn't play there best but they can't every game 9 point ahead at Xmas I'm buzzing about that 🍀

    • @Skelp-x1h
      @Skelp-x1h 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Mate they done OK but for subs it's not looking good for going forward when down to the bare bones through illness better quality we need in January

  • @stuartmcallister4588
    @stuartmcallister4588 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What game was he watching .

  • @NotoriousBing67
    @NotoriousBing67 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bhoys before any negative comments just let this sink in .. we’re 9pm into clear .. still unbeaten … a trophy 🏆 in cabinet already and 1game of goin next phase champions league … 1 bad day at the office will not effect the path we are on .. to another treble and many more amazing memories to come … ps just imagine how it must feel like to be that other mob on other side of city … Dt hate … appreciate 💚🤍🧡🏆☘️

  • @thomasbrennan5194
    @thomasbrennan5194 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Could have been worse. Still in Europe and one cup in the bag plus 9 points ahead of the tribute act . Win the derby and its sorted

  • @jerrycarlin5546
    @jerrycarlin5546 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Brenda has just put pressure on Celtic with the cocky changes he has made,gives rangers a life line through stupidity

    • @MyBall2442
      @MyBall2442 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      His name is Brendan and the changes were because of illness and injuries. Did you listen to the interview?

    • @OzzyTravels
      @OzzyTravels 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@MyBall2442 he's a bun

  • @Callanstunes17
    @Callanstunes17 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Love Brendan absolutely love him but he needs to accept when something dosent work out and stop being so stubborn of course making 5 changes disrupts a game and the flow it diddint work out today and he needs to some responsibility for that to

  • @kaizer1903
    @kaizer1903 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Aye, the bubbles burst, dina worry, it happens to us ah 😂

    • @ononewheellad
      @ononewheellad 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You just love Celtic really. Not an aberdeen fan at all.

    • @kaizer1903
      @kaizer1903 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ononewheellad The bamy world of the weegie, so I'm nae an Aiberdeen fan, aye OK doke.

    • @kaizer1903
      @kaizer1903 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ononewheelladNae an Aiberdeen fan? Aye OK doke
      I've followed the Don's for decades min.

    • @ononewheellad
      @ononewheellad 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@kaizer1903 B S

    • @kaizer1903
      @kaizer1903 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ononewheellad Bampot!

  • @stevegrieve9511
    @stevegrieve9511 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good point for us considering we were minus 3/4 first team players

  • @craigjohnson1550
    @craigjohnson1550 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hahaha farmers fans taking the bait today

  • @jamesmuldoon3891
    @jamesmuldoon3891 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Need a quality winger to go past people,YANG AND PALMA not good enough.Need a striker who can give us 25 goals minimum per season..IDAH AND KYOGO miss too many chances..

  • @jimmymcgregor3900
    @jimmymcgregor3900 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not a good result or performance but the reaction of some is over the top ffs 😂😂😂

  • @Error404-n2c
    @Error404-n2c 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Being fair, celtic deserved to hang on for a draw although united were the better team. Kyogo missed a sitter and macclowan was atrocious. Palma was rotten and macgregor should hang up his boots. No urgency and side to side boring football. Ahh well fail fail 😂😚 celtic fc 1888 - 1994 rip 🤭

  • @Andos71
    @Andos71 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Oh my word Celts lose a few points and it’s a hysteria .
    That 55 is coming behave yourselves

  • @Brian-fc6ov
    @Brian-fc6ov 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dont care what anyone says ..Hatate can go any time he likes, he loses the ball far to often. He is a decent player but not up to Celtic standard. p.s. what a boring game to watch but that was down to Dundee Uniteds tactics

  • @tommystewart1745
    @tommystewart1745 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Same old Celtic.
    Did say tough games ahead and we will drop points and the bench isnt that strong. But again smart mouth fans (not every celtic fan) say different 🤦‍♂️.
    The thing is these fans, who live in Disney bubbles, are the same fans that moaned last season and that. Also the same fans that made fools of themselves outside Parkhead during the failed 10 in a row season 🤦‍♂️. I live in "reality" and dont get ahead of myself. 9ts clear if we drop points at Ibrox, which I think Celtic will, then we are 6pts clear and let a 5pt lead slip. Unacceptable and the board must back Rodgers in January.

  • @user-gw4dx5yn6j
    @user-gw4dx5yn6j 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Credit to Dundee united,are you having a laugh they are a perfect example of the garbage in the Scottish league,they won’t get a better chance to actually win against Celtic with that reserve defence but to do that they would have to come out of their box,dreadful game that gives that mob some oxygen

  • @willwilson1356
    @willwilson1356 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He doesn't half talk mince. Boring Brodgeball with an uninventive midfield, uninspiring bench and and coaches unable to see how to change things.

  • @gaddafis566
    @gaddafis566 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Get kyogo dropped

  • @Voidoid77
    @Voidoid77 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Flat performance. Like watching paint dry... *Please move Yang - Welsh + Palma on, by the end of the January window* They are empty jerseys and offered nothing. *Esp. Yang & Palma.*

  • @craigjohnson1550
    @craigjohnson1550 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Farmers 0 - farmers 0

    • @davidmcdonald9000
      @davidmcdonald9000 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Fanny commenting (clown)

    • @michaelmcgill-uu5ox
      @michaelmcgill-uu5ox 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Still top league farmer boy away count Chickens 😊

    • @johnsteel9781
      @johnsteel9781 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Top banter mate

    • @CelticFC.1888
      @CelticFC.1888 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You're still watching tho

  • @joehamiltonsongs
    @joehamiltonsongs 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That was poor.

  • @johnmayberry7669
    @johnmayberry7669 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Very poor ....things will start to slip away if we don't get more quality into that team we are garbage .dontkid yourself we are not a good side

  • @KristelEijffert
    @KristelEijffert 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Celtic came unstuck today funny wat a couple of players out with injury do for you , lose at Ibrox and its suddenly game on for the title 🇬🇧🙏🏻

  • @scotiavelo1405
    @scotiavelo1405 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wait till we drop more points against Motherwell on Thursday then the alarm 🛎️🛎️ will start. This Squad isn’t as strong enough as some folk say. We’ve been average for weeks.

  • @stuartmcallister4588
    @stuartmcallister4588 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Slow to much

  • @InnerFury
    @InnerFury 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    That's what happens when you start with a weakened team, overconfidence costing us again!

    • @Bawheidbob
      @Bawheidbob 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Err half the team were ill

    • @GerrardNelson
      @GerrardNelson 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Same as this time last year rotten no matter how the manager tries to spin it, total arrogance to start with that team today, start properly, steamroll get a lead and then bring on the diddies like Palma etc, an utterly embarrassing performance and the bhoys and ghirls who travelled deserve way better than the shite the manager rambled afterwards

    • @1888.cfc.
      @1888.cfc. 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@GerrardNelson I concur. Don't want excuses I want WINS.

    • @GerrardNelson
      @GerrardNelson 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ no excuses and btw whether people like this or not, the other mob have sussed our midfield, play like we did today it’s a defeat and a bad one at that, Engels and Idah £20m are we serious

    • @lsmlsm2115
      @lsmlsm2115 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@GerrardNelson But the missing player were ill.

  • @JohnNoble-gg3ou
    @JohnNoble-gg3ou 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    HAIL HAIL CELTIC

    • @Error404-n2c
      @Error404-n2c 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fail fail celtic fc rip 1888 - 1994 😢

    • @JohnNoble-gg3ou
      @JohnNoble-gg3ou 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @Error404-n2c RUN RUN

    • @JohnNoble-gg3ou
      @JohnNoble-gg3ou 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Run run rangers​@@Error404-n2c

    • @JohnNoble-gg3ou
      @JohnNoble-gg3ou 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Error404-n2cyou still running😂

    • @Error404-n2c
      @Error404-n2c 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@JohnNoble-gg3ou we run run you lot💪🤫

  • @user-sl7iBuilt
    @user-sl7iBuilt 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Awful

  • @johnsteel9781
    @johnsteel9781 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Another woeful performance. Rodgers can’t fault the players’ effort. I should hope not. 45 minutes against the mighty Ross County apart we haven’t played well since Leipzig. Won’t do Brendan

  • @craigjohnson1550
    @craigjohnson1550 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hahahaha farmers league

    • @johnhill3249
      @johnhill3249 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      As opposed to the middle East and sky money league blood money

    • @Monthehoops67
      @Monthehoops67 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Farmers league team that Spurs couldn't beat last week

    • @craigjohnson1550
      @craigjohnson1550 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@johnhill3249 that was the worst match ever, that's meant to be your best team, hahahhhaa. Better standard in an under 12s 4th division

    • @johnhill3249
      @johnhill3249 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@craigjohnson1550 best league in the world epl is that the one that man City spent millions to win 4 in a row wow what a competitive league

    • @CelticFC.1888
      @CelticFC.1888 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@craigjohnson1550Man City have won a single game out of 11, that's supposed to be England's best team? Absolutely laughable

  • @lougou
    @lougou 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    🫣🫣embarrassing game

    • @mmcc5846
      @mmcc5846 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Lou gou why thought your where going to tannadice and 9-0 like 2 years ago like all the teams in the SPL this Season got news for you different manager a different team that has spent no money on players except loan players this season

  • @CelticFC.1888
    @CelticFC.1888 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Get Yang transfer listed next window please

    • @Skiddypants
      @Skiddypants 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You watch your mouth walloper

  • @Delboy-hi1ld
    @Delboy-hi1ld 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Illness or not pathetic excuses. Backups as usual not good enough. Get the money spent in January and summer. How many more seasons must we endure utter dross like welsh and ralston.