As my dad was born in 1924 and mom in 1926, I search as much information on this time period as I can to increase my knowledge how they grew up. I heard stories from my granddad regarding this very incident and was fascinated by "Pops" account. He was in Atlanta at the time and said the local militia was alerted when hearing of the "attack" in fear Atlanta would be next ! 🤣 "By the next day" he said, "it had become the joke of the Atlanta"...lol...my Pop was a wonderful storyteller...I miss his stories to this day! I'm 74...Thank you Mr. Geiger !! Your "history" is my window to the past...I never miss an episode 💖
As much fun as this episode was, what I shall take away and incorporate into my vocabulary is the simile: "made more noise than a flat wheeled streetcar". I love it.
It should be kept in mind that this took place 5-7 months after the court martial of Brigadier General Billy Mitchell, who was advocating a greater emphasis on air power.
@@andycraddock7677the Navy felt invincible, so when he sank a ship, it made the Navy brass look bad. The Navy set up rules to make the attack very difficult, but Mitchell bent the rules, and made direct hits.
@@andycraddock7677 Gary Cooper played him in the movie, but it should have been Jimmy Cagney, who was about the same size and had a similar personality.
@@redwatch1100 yeah, but my job was to help share history with the visitors and this would have been cool to share. What did you share, a Happy Meal. Lol
Thank you for the lesson. I have worked on NAS Ft. Worth many times as a construction contractor and in the area of wesr Ft Worth. It was common to see fighter jets doing manuevers over that part of town. The pilots put on a pretty good air show for those of us who looked up. Most people were understandbly annoyed at the noise level. There were places at Ridgmar Mall where when the planes passed over the only thing audible were the engines. Much of the more advanced stuff is done over less inhabited parts of west Texas.
Love your content. Speaking of Airplanes, In China they found the wreckage of a P-40 belonging to the flying tigers that crash landed in a lake with the pilot still in it. Perhaps you can do a video about this forgotten plane?
He already made a video about that situation, unless I'm remembering incorrectly. I know I've watched a video on it and could swear it was from THG. I have no idea what the video was titled, though.
The Marine Reserve had war games in ol' Camp Wallace in Galveston County back in the 80s. Inspite of many newspaper notices, the night of the "war" dozens of people called to ask if we were being invaded or under attack. I was an Officer working patrol. It was great to watch.
I'm a native of New York. My parents and their siblings would have been alive at this time. I took a class in 20th Century American History in high school. And with all that, I never heard of this before now.
Born in NYC, parents and grandparents lived and worked there since the 1870s and never heard this story. At the outset, figured it was King Kong filming.
In the mid 60’s we watched the recreation of the bombing of Pearl Harbor for the movie “In Harms Way” from Camp Smith, up on the mountain. The local Marine Corps Headquarters. Just north of Pearl Harbor. It was SPECTACULAR.
That's so cool. I got to Pearl in 4/69 just in time to catch the wrap-up filming of Tora!(x3). I was a staff driver for CINCPACFLT and we did CINCPAC courier duty about every 3 weeks at Camp Smith. It did have some beautiful views.
When I read the title. I thought at first it was a "battle" between many business owners fighting over who would dominate the NY skyline with tallest skyscraper. But as I listen....this is completely different
This reminds me of a Remembrance Day mock battle over Ottawa sometime in the 1990s. There was one large old period English plane, search lights, even fog (I can't remember if it was genuine or added) and the sounds of an air battle played over loud speakers. I'm sure it was all well advertised but I'd only heard of it that morning. It was a very moving performance but I wondered if anyone within earshot who hadn't heard of it might be worrying 🙂
A little divergent from the topic but my dad was in the NY National Guard just before WW2 broke out. His brother in law was first sergeant on their unit, 253rd Field Artillery. Dad ended up, when the war started, in the Army Air Corp stationed on Attu island in the Aleutians. His Brother in law was released from duty as his job was considered vital to the war effort.
At 6:38, " With a very unpleasant sneezing and wheezing/ the calliope crashed to the ground......" Bruce Springsteen, "Blinded by the Light" (also recorded by Manfred Mann and the Earth Band, who had a big hit with it)
This summer at the laundromat at the lake I found one book out of a series called the world book from 1926 complete and in good shape My grandmother was born the year after this she didn't have power growing up.
I worked in Times SQ for 2 years but never heard this story. What my grandpa did tell me about, besides him and his brothers hopping freight trains to sneak into the burlesque shows in Times Sq as kids, was that there were sightings of German Submarines off the coast of Long Island during WW2! Got anything on that, Professor History Guy?
Miller Field, Staten Island played a role in the 1961 midair collision of a DC8 and Super Connie over NYC - Connie crashed there while DC8 fell in Brooklyn.
Could you see if there's a history to "the pocket protector" and if there's enough info on it id love to see an episode. If there isn't I'd settle for a history of the pen. All of this because I looked down and saw my fountain pen cap has come off in my coverall pocket and drained a quarter of the cartridge inside
,And Just a year Later...One Summer: America, 1927 is an amazing book by Bill Bryson. The year that scoundrel Lindberg crossed the ocean, but later went all Nazi and even had several kids in Germany after the war behind his wife's back. The book covers so many events that happened that year in such a well written way.
Smuge pots make smoke. Traffic control was round oil pots with a wick for flame on top. They didn't make smoke, only fire. Is that what you're thinking of? The smudge pots were famous in Florida orange orchards.
I am trying to imagine what would happen now, if a ANG squadron of F-16's did the same thing to show how protected NYC was, dogfighting around the skyscrapers. Oh, the yelling that would follow....
A fascinating story and very enjoyable to watch, an excellent way of advertising an event. May I suggest a small correction to your comment about New York in 1776, I believe you should have said “Government troops garrisoned the city to protect it from the rebels!” But then, being British I am slightly biased 😂
As a child, I heard of a mock amphibious landing done on the beaches of Chicago. I never knew when it took place, or even if it did. Kids do make things up. If it did occur, I would like to know about it. If it didn't, I guess I want to know that.
Not much later in the 30s a B25. Mitchell crashed into the empire state building. It Wasn't part of any war game just a plane that for whatever reason slammed into the building. They have since changed the fight patterns over NYC.
I saw a Japanese Zero flying along Battery Park and the Hudson. It may have been a replica. Many were destroyed during and after the war. Green with the Red Meatball! Looked like a mock strafing run. That was before 9/11.
To your last point... the US was not dumb enough to ignore the rest of the world. Drachinifel has a 3 or 4 part video series on USN Pacific Fleet Problems. Most, if not all, against "we SWEAR the opposing fleet isn't Japan... honest!"
As my dad was born in 1924 and mom in 1926, I search as much information on this time period as I can to increase my knowledge how they grew up. I heard stories from my granddad regarding this very incident and was fascinated by "Pops" account. He was in Atlanta at the time and said the local militia was alerted when hearing of the "attack" in fear Atlanta would be next ! 🤣 "By the next day" he said, "it had become the joke of the Atlanta"...lol...my Pop was a wonderful storyteller...I miss his stories to this day! I'm 74...Thank you Mr. Geiger !! Your "history" is my window to the past...I never miss an episode 💖
As much fun as this episode was, what I shall take away and incorporate into my vocabulary is the simile: "made more noise than a flat wheeled streetcar". I love it.
Great patch. Brings back memories.
Ah yes square wheels, before the invention of the circle.
It should be kept in mind that this took place 5-7 months after the court martial of Brigadier General Billy Mitchell, who was advocating a greater emphasis on air power.
@Orbfan: You know your history! A totally unjustified CM IMO, as Gen. Mitchell was certainly proven right. Ruffled the wrong feathers I guess.
@@andycraddock7677the Navy felt invincible, so when he sank a ship, it made the Navy brass look bad.
The Navy set up rules to make the attack very difficult, but Mitchell bent the rules, and made direct hits.
@@andycraddock7677 Gary Cooper played him in the movie, but it should have been Jimmy Cagney, who was about the same size and had a similar personality.
I smiled when I could see 1930s cars in one of your "1926" photos.
I love it when THG finds a piece of forgotten history I have never heard of!
I do like the way Lance changes his forever eclectic background to fit the theme of his tale.
This was indeed "history that deserves to be remembered."
Thank you for this "horrible" attack on New York.
I'm a huge fan of New York City *and* aviation history, and have never heard of this. Thanks!!!
A really good story and thank you for it.
Today's my lucky day - new upload while binging old episodes🎉
Good morning from Ft Worth TX to everyone watching.
Hello Fort Worth from Milltown NJ
Homesick Texan here in Indiana!
Crazy, I worked at the Statue of Liberty and never heard of this history. This is cool.
I worked at McDonald's in Yonkers and i never heard of it either. lol
@@redwatch1100 yeah, but my job was to help share history with the visitors and this would have been cool to share. What did you share, a Happy Meal. Lol
Thank You for sharing INFORMATION
I appreciate you, thank you for making content.
That is new to me on what happened in New York.
another wonderful period spent listening to your voice and reviewing history. gday to you sir.
I have never known thIs thank you as a lover of history in air battle show over new york city to ❤
Very interesting, had never heard of this before - thanks for sharing!
Excellent!
Thank you for the lesson.
I have worked on NAS Ft. Worth many times as a construction contractor and in the area of wesr Ft Worth.
It was common to see fighter jets doing manuevers over that part of town.
The pilots put on a pretty good air show for those of us who looked up.
Most people were understandbly annoyed at the noise level.
There were places at Ridgmar Mall where when the planes passed over the only thing audible were the engines.
Much of the more advanced stuff is done over less inhabited parts of west Texas.
Love your content. Speaking of Airplanes, In China they found the wreckage of a P-40 belonging to the flying tigers that crash landed in a lake with the pilot still in it. Perhaps you can do a video about this forgotten plane?
He already made a video about that situation, unless I'm remembering incorrectly. I know I've watched a video on it and could swear it was from THG. I have no idea what the video was titled, though.
How nice of the attackers to wait for the defenders to arrive on the scene before commencing battle
People (Even our enemies) were more courteous in the 1920s.
Have you done a video describing the Mine Wars in West Virginia? If not, it would be an interesting topic.
thanks
We still do this today, training in urban situations, only with a little bit more focus on public safety.
The Marine Reserve had war games in ol' Camp Wallace in Galveston County back in the 80s. Inspite of many newspaper notices, the night of the "war" dozens of people called to ask if we were being invaded or under attack. I was an Officer working patrol. It was great to watch.
Thank you History Guy
I'm a native of New York. My parents and their siblings would have been alive at this time. I took a class in 20th Century American History in high school. And with all that, I never heard of this before now.
Born in NYC, parents and grandparents lived and worked there since the 1870s and never heard this story. At the outset, figured it was King Kong filming.
I've never heard of this before we never covered this in school
Another great episode. ❤
Thanks for yer Another riveting History Guy episode !
My first “ go to” email of The Day !🍀🏃🏾♂️🏃🏾♂️
In the mid 60’s we watched the recreation of the bombing of Pearl Harbor for the movie “In Harms Way” from Camp Smith, up on the mountain. The local Marine Corps Headquarters. Just north of Pearl Harbor. It was SPECTACULAR.
That's so cool. I got to Pearl in 4/69 just in time to catch the wrap-up filming of Tora!(x3). I was a staff driver for CINCPACFLT and we did CINCPAC courier duty about every 3 weeks at Camp Smith. It did have some beautiful views.
Did you get a chance to be one of the extras like at the party at the beginning of the movie? many women with their sixties hairstyles too
Never heard of this before! It must have been terrifying if they didn't know it was just a war game! Crazy!
When I read the title. I thought at first it was a "battle" between many business owners fighting over who would dominate the NY skyline with tallest skyscraper.
But as I listen....this is completely different
This is the kind of thing that you could only get away with in the 1920s.
Now if only we’d have heeded President Eisenhower’s warning about the military-industrial complex.
This reminds me of a Remembrance Day mock battle over Ottawa sometime in the 1990s. There was one large old period English plane, search lights, even fog (I can't remember if it was genuine or added) and the sounds of an air battle played over loud speakers. I'm sure it was all well advertised but I'd only heard of it that morning.
It was a very moving performance but I wondered if anyone within earshot who hadn't heard of it might be worrying 🙂
Ottawa, Kansas?
@@WAL_DC-6B No, Ottawa Ontario, Canada. And I forgot to mention this display wasn't over the whole city but just over the parliament buildings.
@@sylviegauthier2145 Thanks for setting the record straight as to which Ottawa had the "mock battle."
@@WAL_DC-6B I forgot that there are other Ottawas in the world. 🙂
@@sylviegauthier2145 Yep, like Ottawa, Illinois.
A little divergent from the topic but my dad was in the NY National Guard just before WW2 broke out. His brother in law was first sergeant on their unit, 253rd Field Artillery. Dad ended up, when the war started, in the Army Air Corp stationed on Attu island in the Aleutians. His Brother in law was released from duty as his job was considered vital to the war effort.
Very good!!!
At 6:38, " With a very unpleasant sneezing and wheezing/ the calliope crashed to the ground......" Bruce Springsteen, "Blinded by the Light" (also recorded by Manfred Mann and the Earth Band, who had a big hit with it)
New York city. Never ceases to amaze.
Excellent
I bet this inspired the ending of King Kong which was released seven years after this exercise.
Bingo.
I am glad they got that experience in defending New York, because they needed it to protect the Empire State Building in 1933!😁
I wonder if any film crews got the footage to use on King Kong? lol
This summer at the laundromat at the lake I found one book out of a series called the world book from 1926 complete and in good shape My grandmother was born the year after this she didn't have power growing up.
Pretty cool. I bet the N.Y. air guard is proud of that. Also wonder about disputes over score!
@The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered You may not be aware of it, but, the music over the outro is loud enough to drown it out.
I worked in Times SQ for 2 years but never heard this story. What my grandpa did tell me about, besides him and his brothers hopping freight trains to sneak into the burlesque shows in Times Sq as kids, was that there were sightings of German Submarines off the coast of Long Island during WW2! Got anything on that, Professor History Guy?
The WWII return subs sank plenty right off the coast, easy peasy. Americans kept the light on, silhouetting the ships.
wow
Miller Field, Staten Island played a role in the 1961 midair collision of a DC8 and Super Connie over NYC - Connie crashed there while DC8 fell in Brooklyn.
Could you see if there's a history to "the pocket protector" and if there's enough info on it id love to see an episode. If there isn't I'd settle for a history of the pen.
All of this because I looked down and saw my fountain pen cap has come off in my coverall pocket and drained a quarter of the cartridge inside
great
Imagine how much more history we’d have learned if we didn’t spend 4-5 weeks a year from grades 3 through 12 talking about the Industrial Revolution…
FWIW the vintage airplane footage is from Pilot X 1936 :)
Wow. Cool. Mayhem would ensue today.
Except it would be all CG now.
Never heard of this one... but well before my time..
This was a practice run for defeating large ape creatures that may attack in the coming years
Interesting !
,And Just a year Later...One Summer: America, 1927 is an amazing book by Bill Bryson. The year that scoundrel Lindberg crossed the ocean, but later went all Nazi and even had several kids in Germany after the war behind his wife's back. The book covers so many events that happened that year in such a well written way.
You should have added a clip of King Kong on the Empire State Building.
How is this not a script read for King Kong?😎
Military aircraft just forty years after the end of the Civil War.
Technology is awesome!
Which Civil War? Obviously not US.
Just gotta say one thing about this - Operation Sky Shield II (1961) & the Vulcan bomber :)
I'm sure that somewhere in your military headgear collection there's an old school leather pilot's cap. Not a replica, but the real deal.🛩️
He could read the forgotten phone book and I would listen.
I thought I missed a 1926 war
I thought the same,but also guessed that it was probably a mock battle.
The Dodgers and the Yankees were really going at it.
Nice
Imagine the outcry of such an event today. Karens everywhere would demand to talk to the manager.
Good night
This reminds me of the more infamous "Battle of Los Angeles" in 1942. 😬
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Did this incident inspire the climactic scene in King Kong? The movie was made about five years afterwards.
As a child I remember 'smudge pots' being used 1. warm plants/orchards. and 2. Traffic Control, anthing historical worthy of these?
Smuge pots make smoke. Traffic control was round oil pots with a wick for flame on top. They didn't make smoke, only fire. Is that what you're thinking of? The smudge pots were famous in Florida orange orchards.
I am trying to imagine what would happen now, if a ANG squadron of F-16's did the same thing to show how protected NYC was, dogfighting around the skyscrapers. Oh, the yelling that would follow....
I like the way you dramatacize things😂
I thought it was going to relate to the Howard Hughes airplane movie that came out a couple years after.
I'd never heard of this incident. This sounds like an H.G.Wells report!
What is it about NYC and airplanes that just doesn't seem compatible?
I wonder if this was any inspiration for Orson Welles broadcast of the War of the Worlds?
The only air war I remember seeing over Manhattan involved a very large ape.
A fascinating story and very enjoyable to watch, an excellent way of advertising an event. May I suggest a small correction to your comment about New York in 1776, I believe you should have said “Government troops garrisoned the city to protect it from the rebels!” But then, being British I am slightly biased 😂
Sorry, you have to win the war to earn the right to spin the result. ;)
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Vicious.
Once you got to the point where the defenders arrived before the attackers I knew something was amiss
Vice-versa friend, the attackers arrived first, as THG speculated on how much damage they could've done before the defenders arrived.
Angel As Death.
So Defiled To Disgrace..
But , To Yet To Learn We Who Still Throw Caution To The Winds Of Still Not For Change .
Our first air show, unannounced.
As a child, I heard of a mock amphibious landing done on the beaches of Chicago.
I never knew when it took place, or even if it did.
Kids do make things up.
If it did occur, I would like to know about it.
If it didn't, I guess I want to know that.
People need to know history it is our greats teacher thank you 😊
Not much later in the 30s a B25. Mitchell crashed into the empire state building. It Wasn't part of any war game just a plane that for whatever reason slammed into the building. They have since changed the fight patterns over NYC.
th-cam.com/video/J8zJEaqXcZ0/w-d-xo.html
July 28 1945 not 1930's. The did not change the flight patterns over NYC. The plane was lost in fog and off course.
@@leeblake3989 yeah I was going off my flawed brain, thanks for the info.
@@leeblake3989thanks for correcting the incorrect professor. Zoomers are just so eager to share, they don't care about facts.
I saw a Japanese Zero flying along Battery Park and the Hudson.
It may have been a replica.
Many were destroyed during and after the war.
Green with the Red Meatball!
Looked like a mock strafing run.
That was before 9/11.
ever do anything on the 'National Recovery Administration' or Arthurdale or Gen. Hugh Johnson?
Montreal Gazette get's a mention
As a schoolboy, I delivered papers for them
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It was Godzilla
LOL. We attacked ourselves, and we lost.
"Hautbois" is now "oboe".
Amazing! Can you imagine the scandal of a stunt like this today? Heads would roll and fat compensations paid.
They flew the AF1 aircraft past the Statue of Liberty for a photo op a couple years ago, it caused some grief.
Half a million Millies would suffer irreversible PTSD if this were to happen.
In preparation for King Kong?
Can someone link me to articles talking about this event? After some googling using different keywords I was unable to find any info
To your last point... the US was not dumb enough to ignore the rest of the world.
Drachinifel has a 3 or 4 part video series on USN Pacific Fleet Problems. Most, if not all, against "we SWEAR the opposing fleet isn't Japan... honest!"
What year did they shoot the big ape off the empire state building?
"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein.
Have you done the story of the 'round the world race. NYC to Paris. What about the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire?
Must be where they got the idea for the King Kong air battle a few years later.