ℹ️Weights of the new Wahoo cleats (both), the manual, and the box is up on my Instagram (link below) ℹ️ Be sure to give me a FOLLOW over there too to be across a lot of other things I'm riding/testing/breaking in between TH-cam videos! ❤️ LINK: instagram.com/p/CMgP_FVFk5Q/
@@tomandsamuel That sounds a whole lot more tinfoil hat than what probably happens. Journalists/bloggers/youtubers probably received these at least a week ago on a media embargo that ends on the product release date. They're not paid by Wahoo, they're just given early access and are all incentivized to release their videos or articles as the first possible moment because they make their money off of the clicks. It's a win-win, not some kind of employment agreement.
Hey I’m not having a dig and am 100% aware of how the process works. I’ve always found Shane to give an honest view point of all products he reviews. But, all the Wahoo love-in over the internet does make it hard to put your faith in any “unboxing and review” to give you the whole story. Like I said, Shane is always spot on and has been from the start. @kevin Doyle
Now it all makes sense why Shane was testing speedplay! Would absolutely love a video testing the angles the bike can tilt before clipping a pedal for each major brand!
As a recent convert to Speedplay, I'm thrilled to learn that Wahoo did not kill off their pedals! Look like a nice upgrade to even their basic models and great that all existing Zero cleats are compatible. Any news on the availability of the metal extender base plates? These have disappeared globally in recent months. Steve Hogg makes a clone, but...
Am pleased about this as a Speedplay owner of 20+ years. I had to replace a very old pair in the past year and felt that the newest Speedplay pedals weren’t as good as the pair that I replaced, requiring maintenance and being more problematic getting the release tension set to my liking. Everything sounds very positive on this front and I might replace my current set with Wahoo ones, will hold off to see the price and performance of the power meter versions before making my decision
Power pedals look like a pod similar to the Assiomas. Very interesting. After seeing the prices of the non power versions, im a little scared to see the power pedals price! 😬😬
Very interested in the power meter speedplay pedals and its accuracy, gonna wait a bit for those as I'm on the fence about buying the Assioma's but also wanting to give speedplay a shot as the double sided pedal system has always been intriguing.
Somebody awhile ago put Assioma base with a speedplay pedal and it worked (this was first "hacked" earlier by MTB'ers. I wonder if this was a catalyst for what we are seeing now. Where Assioma puts its strain gauge is what makes it possible.
I was just about to pull the trigger on a Quarq PM for my tri bike, but speedplay power pedals would be a much more appealing option. Can't wait for the LLT!
Given everyone was waiting for the power meter one, I guess none is going to buy the normal ones, unless you can buy the zero, and later upgrade it to the powerLINK by replacing the spindle.
I already have a P2M spider, and can always use a bit more corner clearance. I'm not interested in the power version but the improvements in bearings and wear plates make this very tempting.
Hopefully they bring them back out sometime soon. With the "gravel bike" boom I'm sure they are working on the redesign. I know I'll be getting a pair in Ti when they come out.
Speedplay has mistakenly abandoned their best all around pedal - the Frog. A dumb mistake. I only use mountain biking shoes with Frog pedals both inside and out. Much more practical and easier to walk outside than on road shoes/pedals. These new pedals are all variations of the same theme, now perhaps of better quality. The old Zero pedals worked fine. As far as the upcoming Wahoo pedal power meter, I'm quite happy with the Assioma/Xpedo combination since it works with mountain biking shoes and is very cost effective. Thank you Shane.
Agreed, the Frog is a great pedal. I have 4 sets, all still going strong. Only problem is that the cleats are unavailable and I'm on my last set. Shame on Wahoo for not continuing make these available.
I wonder if Wahoo will offer pedal body rebuild kits as Speedplay used to. If not, they have lost me as a customer and I’ll be moving all my pedals over to Shimano.
@@davidpayne2805 You are so correct. Glad I stockpiled enough of the cleats to last me a long time. Wahoo decided to buy Speedplay. Not sure how much input they have with those products or have they let Speedplay make the decisions under the thumb of Wahoo. Regards.
I've been using nothing but Frogs for 25 years, MTB or road, and I'm mad as hell. YOU CAN WALK IN THEM! Cleats are selling for $200 to $350 a pair on Ebay.
@@johncrowley1203 I'm with you John. My favorite pedal. Hopefully Speedplay(Wahoo) will wake up and bring back the pedal(cleats). Like many things in life, you don't know what you had until you throw it away.....
Good to see they fixed their inferior design that they had for years. Before they used way too much cheap plastic for a premium-priced product. Still needs to be seen if this design isn't prone to creaking...
@@adammillsindustries. yes, wahoo seemed to have killed that from what their support said. I'm lucky enough to still have 4-bolt shoes from years of using speedplay. I think we'd need to petition wahoo to bring that back
On going maintenance requirements???? Other than grinding them down a little from racing crits... I have never ever serviced a set of Speedplay pedals and I’ve been using and racing on them for 20yrs.
@@gplama mmm maybe I should have but no... other than every now and then a bit on the cleat itself. And no wobbling or obvious wear. I do have six pairs of pedals because they are on multiple bikes but the youngest set would be around maybe 11yrs old...and done many thousands of km. I rode A grade for 14yrs....not doing mega miles but enough. Not racing anymore.
Might turn out to be one of the shrewdest tech buys of the last couple of years by Wahoo. If they have the pod design similar to the assiomas then I'm guessing they will have a similar implementation of pedal dymamics to their IAV.
This is suuuuper exciting. Can't wait to see more about the power meter. Question : Did the spindle design change at all? or is the change to the pedal bodies only?
@@TreyGruel What I meant was the pedal side. But looks like that changed as well. A lot of riders buy the chromoly version of the pedals and buy J&L titanium spindles and (and other metal parts of the pedal you can swap) from china to make a ~142 grams speedplay pedals for very cheap. Looks like at the moment that's not gonna be possible. (Just give it a few weeks though :) )
From the image of the power meter pedal that pod looks eerily similar to the Assioma pod? Is it possible that wahoo and assioma did a collaboration on this one? Those Xpedo spindles look pretty darn close to the speed play ones.
I’m not convinced to bottle cap top design will slow down pedal body wear at all. The basic design of how these pedals engage with the cleat pretty much ensures pedal body wear at a much faster rate than competitors pedals, and the stainless steel old Speedplay bow ties wore quickly. These look more like an aesthetic redesign than an actual change that improves durability. I guess we’ll see. Question: will Wahoo be offering pedal body rebuild kits for these new Speedplay pedals as Speedplay used to, or are the pedals disposable once the body & metal bottle caps wear out if they do wear out? The stainless version at $230 is a non starter IMO if the wear rate has not really been reduced, and there are no body rebuild kits to be offered.
Hmmm... HMMMM! I almost pulled the trigger on the Assioma Duos last month, but now I think I'll hang fire and see what the skinny is on these. Such teasing!
Need to talk a little bit about the size and “bulkiness” of the cleat. They were not weighed as well vs something like the shimano or look cleats. How they are to walk with, wear etc... this is something that has always been a detractor for me, maybe it’s just my assumptions that the cleats are bulky.
Is there a market for a Time based power meter pedal? Time aren't all that popular here. I'm even surprised at the attention around a Speedplay power meter to be honest. An SPD-SL meter would make a lot of people happy.
@@gplama I've ridden Time ATAC on my MTB, and tourer, and gravel bike since early '80s. In fact I still have a bike with the ATAC pedal I bought in the mid-90s though the bearings and cleat grip bars on the pedal have been replaced. I've liked the float and mud clearance aspects of the ATACs. I stayed loyal and put a Time XPro 10 road pedal on the road bike. My first road-shoe and 3-bolt cleat set up. It was an interesting acquisition by SRAM, as Time have produced shoes and I wonder if SRAM will move into that space.
Great product video. What is the standard axle lenght of the comp and the zero pedals? If I understand it correctly Wahoo offers different axle lenght of the zero pedals? Thanks.
53mm (from the crank to centre pedal) is the standard. The ZERO will have 53, 56, 59, 65. There might be other options in the future depending on demand, I suspect.
the Nano spec sheet shows maximum rider weight of 180lbs. Just want to check how durable the Nano pedal is. My worry is the durability of the titanium specially when you are putting more pressure on the pedal like standing up when you pedal, you might break it and cause accident. I've been using the stainless steel for more than 10 years and have no problem and no concern that the pedal will break
“Entry level” pedals for 150 euros 😅😅. People that are onto speed plays are looking at around a 30 euro up charge over old pricing. I recently moved away from my speed plays onto the Look platform and I am not really regretting it when seeing the higher prices. Interested in the new power meter pedals though 🙂
The pricing has also gone way up on both the stainless steel and titanium Nano versions which are now selling for US $ 230 and $450 respectively. Plus, there has been no mention of whether Wahoo will offer pedal body rebuild kits like a Speedplay used to. Without rebuild kits these pedals are extremely expensive, and the basic design has a history of wearing out a good deal faster than competitors pedal bodies. I’ll wait and see if they offer body rebuild kits. If they don’t I’ll be sticking with my Shimano pedals that I switched to when Speedplay pedals became unavailable over the past year plus.
Old Zero Cromoly was 169€, so it's 20€ cheaper now. Actual market price hover in the 160 region too (saw 155€ too IIRC); so the new pedals are cheaper than the old ones from most sellers. Wiggle sells the old ones for 169€ atm. The cheapest I saw the old ones was like 135 IIRC.
I use pedal extenders - it works for me - loved the old speedplay because of the hex on the spindle allows me to fit the extenders - I don't think im the only one. I like wahoo kit but its a no from me. Bit pee'd off with that.
I loved the older speed play pedals but, with being a light rider 60kg, I could not clip in while seated, I had to stand and jump down on the pedals to clip in. I had heard at the time I used them it was a problem for all light riders. Do you know if this has been addressed as I loved the look and the lightness of the pedals. I just couldn’t be doing with having to stand and jump down on the pedal to get clipped in.
Had similar issue as a 60kg rider...did a hack by disassembling the cleat and stretching the spring by pushing it out with pliers to work it in and stretch so to speak but not aggressively. Sort of helps to accelerate the break in period. Worked a treat for me with no issues but I would only do it if you already have the cleats. If I buy again will go for the light action cleat.
Same problem for me. I used the older non-Wahoo Speedplays for a year. Literally had to jump up and down on the pedals repeatedly to get clipped in. And I used the Speedplay lube regularly. It did get easier to clip in...but it took several weeks of lots of clip-in - clip-out. And even then they still weren't that easy to clip into. Because of that, how sensitive they were to dirt, and how hard it was to get fresh grease injected (the end caps come off and grease spurting everywhere no matter how hard I pushed on the grease gun), I moved away from them. But, lately I've been having some knee pain so I'm going to try them again. The truly free rotation, adjustable rotation angle, and long (65mm) axles really are fantastic for my knees compared to pretty much any other pedal. I might try buying a set of the Easy Tension cleats and see how that goes.
Thanks for the info! I've been using Speedplay on the road and track for the last 15 years. Do you know if the track version is still a thing? I've never accidentaly unclipped from the road version, but it's nice to have the extra security on the track. I'm looking forward to seeing how the power meter version stacks up against currently available power meters.
He’s asking if you currently own Speedplay pedals such as Speedplay Zeroes will Wahoo offer such customers a trade up type discount to trade their old pedals in for new Wahoo Speedplay pedals.
Hi Shane, will the new zero pedals work with the old zero cleats as I have 3 sets of cleats that I purchased a couple years ago on the cheap.. thank you
Hi Shane. Any news on the wahoo powerlink release date? It was supposed to be launched this summer (northern hemisphere, I guess), which is about to come to an end... Also, have you heard anything about wahoo releasing the new version of the roam? Thanks
I’ll be interested to see how they fair with lighter riders, never bought a pair of speed plays because I’ve seen so many bad reviews from other lighter riders about them
I’ve run Speedplays for 15 years, and am no gargantuan. If a person can’t lock their shoe into a Speedplay pedal they either have horrible technique on the bike or they substantially over tightened their cleat bolts well beyond the recommended torque settings. Over torquing the cleat bolts caused the main cleat spring not to engage and move correctly. Speedplays are literally one of the easiest pedals to clip in and out of when correctly set up. I would venture that all of those bad reviews are goofballs with poor technique on the bike or they stupidly did not pay attention to doing a correct cleat install and now want to blame the product rather than their own user errors.
@@gplama Thanks for the reply, I have opened a ticket with Wahoo to confirm, but its looking like I might have to return the Comp if the spindle length can't be changed.
@@gplama Wahoo just confirmed that the spindles are not swappable. So you have to buy a complete Zero pedal with a different length spindle. A bit of a shame I think for consumers wanting to try different q-factors for better bike fit/knee issues.
Wow, Wahoo have only done good things with the Speedplay brand. I've used Speedplay pedals for over 10 years due to knee issues and have loved them ever since I started using them. I have gone through multiple sets of these pedals, due to wear and tear, and the occasional crash which killed one set completely. I also like that the aero cover (read walkable) cleats are standard now as they were a £60 cost if you bought them over the counter. I'm looking forward to the day when my current set finally crap out so i can buy a set of these.
They also screwed everyone using Frogs or Syzr over. Closed the Speedplay US factory, and their own factory only produces Zero-Type pedals and cleats, production on spare parts for the other Speedplay systems is dead and the employees without a job I guess?
Will the "easy tension" cleats be compatible with the old "ultra light action" pedal? And are the new cleats (standard and/or easy tension) compatible with the old zero pedal?
@@gplama Hi Shane, thanks for the quick reply. I emailed Wahoo support and they came back to be this morning with an answer. The legacy "light action pedals" will not be compatible with the new cleats! So everyone out there with these pedals: Stock up on those cleats ;)
Just to clarify if I buy a set of these can I continue to use my old cleats and go back and forth between the new pedals and old pedals on different bikes?
So what does it mean for my ultra light action pedals? Will I ever get spare parts for those in the future? It feels as if it was a mistake to buy them instead of the Zero 5 month ago
Better yet, make yourself some SPD power metre peddald, I have made my assioma Uno SPD. It's excellent! (And no weird walking around at the cafe with bulky fleet underfoot!)
basic complaint with speedplay pedals (i rode speedplays for years, then switched to SPD-SL): lack of four bolt shoe options. with the adapter plates, the system weight is no longer competitive, and the stack height goes up by nearly 3mm, which means that on dura ace spd/sl you end up with a larger, lighter, more stable platform with lower stack height that will work with nearly every shoe on the market. if Wahoo solves the 4 bolt issue, then game on. until then, hard pass from me.
About 4.45 in you say the comp versions are the only “non smart” versions…….not compatible with the power meter? A bit of a slip? Or did i misunderstand something?
Four non smart versions, the Comp reference was “and finally in the non smart versions” as in this is the fourth and final before I get into the power meter. Maybe poor wording. I’ll fire my script writer and producer. 👌🏼
Looking at moving away from Look Keos due to a release under power issue where I can't seem to unclip/unlock while climbing. Can you state if you're experiencing this issue with Spreedplays?
@@jamesmckenzie3532 Sorry, I read "release under power" and thought it was doing that.... maybe the light tension Speedplay cleats would help? You'll have to try them yourself to know.
I cover as much as I can about the power pedals. Bottom line - Nobody has any actual specific detail they can publish. Wahoo had to announce them given the hype.... let's hope they can stick to the scheduled release and we can publish more detail.
ℹ️Weights of the new Wahoo cleats (both), the manual, and the box is up on my Instagram (link below) ℹ️
Be sure to give me a FOLLOW over there too to be across a lot of other things I'm riding/testing/breaking in between TH-cam videos! ❤️
LINK: instagram.com/p/CMgP_FVFk5Q/
When I seek out and watch GP Lama’s announcement before Wahoo’s own 👍
Almost like Wahoo give Shane some money to bring the video out on the same day 🤔 along with every other cycling YT channel
@@tomandsamuel That sounds a whole lot more tinfoil hat than what probably happens. Journalists/bloggers/youtubers probably received these at least a week ago on a media embargo that ends on the product release date. They're not paid by Wahoo, they're just given early access and are all incentivized to release their videos or articles as the first possible moment because they make their money off of the clicks. It's a win-win, not some kind of employment agreement.
Hey I’m not having a dig and am 100% aware of how the process works. I’ve always found Shane to give an honest view point of all products he reviews. But, all the Wahoo love-in over the internet does make it hard to put your faith in any “unboxing and review” to give you the whole story. Like I said, Shane is always spot on and has been from the start. @kevin Doyle
Now it all makes sense why Shane was testing speedplay!
Would absolutely love a video testing the angles the bike can tilt before clipping a pedal for each major brand!
Finally the packaging doesn’t look like someone selling out of a garage. Although I have to say getting parts was way easier once Wahoo bought them.
hahahha! The previous pedal baggies were a little crack-den-esque. Wahoo do good packaging. And coloured pictures in the manual!
@@robertcowling4313 if those waring should apply on the pedal, then it could apply on every parts on the bike as well
As a recent convert to Speedplay, I'm thrilled to learn that Wahoo did not kill off their pedals! Look like a nice upgrade to even their basic models and great that all existing Zero cleats are compatible.
Any news on the availability of the metal extender base plates? These have disappeared globally in recent months. Steve Hogg makes a clone, but...
You are such a tease! It’s amazing how quickly wahoo developed a power meter. Take note iQ2.
Am pleased about this as a Speedplay owner of 20+ years. I had to replace a very old pair in the past year and felt that the newest Speedplay pedals weren’t as good as the pair that I replaced, requiring maintenance and being more problematic getting the release tension set to my liking. Everything sounds very positive on this front and I might replace my current set with Wahoo ones, will hold off to see the price and performance of the power meter versions before making my decision
Fair call. I'll be keeping an eye on how they go when people start clipping in and giving them hell.
The news I’ve been waiting for. Holding out for the Powerlink model in Summer.
Power pedals look like a pod similar to the Assiomas. Very interesting. After seeing the prices of the non power versions, im a little scared to see the power pedals price! 😬😬
Very interested in the power meter speedplay pedals and its accuracy, gonna wait a bit for those as I'm on the fence about buying the Assioma's but also wanting to give speedplay a shot as the double sided pedal system has always been intriguing.
Somebody awhile ago put Assioma base with a speedplay pedal and it worked (this was first "hacked" earlier by MTB'ers. I wonder if this was a catalyst for what we are seeing now. Where Assioma puts its strain gauge is what makes it possible.
great review cant wait to see the power meter version
I was just about to pull the trigger on a Quarq PM for my tri bike, but speedplay power pedals would be a much more appealing option. Can't wait for the LLT!
Now that the Garmin SPD pedals cat is out of the bag, I guess that's another video we should be anticipating :D
Given everyone was waiting for the power meter one, I guess none is going to buy the normal ones, unless you can buy the zero, and later upgrade it to the powerLINK by replacing the spindle.
I wonder if it will possible to use assioma's parts and make a Franken pedal! xD
I already have a P2M spider, and can always use a bit more corner clearance.
I'm not interested in the power version but the improvements in bearings and wear plates make this very tempting.
I’m sad they discontinued the SYZR MTB/gravel pedals. I love them.
Hopefully they bring them back out sometime soon. With the "gravel bike" boom I'm sure they are working on the redesign. I know I'll be getting a pair in Ti when they come out.
thanks for the review! u are the best reviewer on the market 😊
Thanks, I’m just one of many. I appreciate your kind words. 🙏🏼
I have been using speedplay pedals since 1997: frog, x series, now the light action. I hope they keep making the light action cleats!
Speedplay has mistakenly abandoned their best all around pedal - the Frog. A dumb mistake. I only use mountain biking shoes with Frog pedals both inside and out. Much more practical and easier to walk outside than on road shoes/pedals. These new pedals are all variations of the same theme, now perhaps of better quality. The old Zero pedals worked fine. As far as the upcoming Wahoo pedal power meter, I'm quite happy with the Assioma/Xpedo combination since it works with mountain biking shoes and is very cost effective.
Thank you Shane.
Agreed, the Frog is a great pedal. I have 4 sets, all still going strong. Only problem is that the cleats are unavailable and I'm on my last set. Shame on Wahoo for not continuing make these available.
I wonder if Wahoo will offer pedal body rebuild kits as Speedplay used to. If not, they have lost me as a customer and I’ll be moving all my pedals over to Shimano.
@@davidpayne2805 You are so correct. Glad I stockpiled enough of the cleats to last me a long time. Wahoo decided to buy Speedplay. Not sure how much input they have with those products or have they let Speedplay make the decisions under the thumb of Wahoo. Regards.
I've been using nothing but Frogs for 25 years, MTB or road, and I'm mad as hell. YOU CAN WALK IN THEM! Cleats are selling for $200 to $350 a pair on Ebay.
@@johncrowley1203 I'm with you John. My favorite pedal. Hopefully Speedplay(Wahoo) will wake up and bring back the pedal(cleats). Like many things in life, you don't know what you had until you throw it away.....
Good to see they fixed their inferior design that they had for years. Before they used way too much cheap plastic for a premium-priced product. Still needs to be seen if this design isn't prone to creaking...
Or the dreaded lateral rock that develops shortly and causes the pedal to not feel as stable as traditional platforms....
I was hoping Wahoo would figure out how to have a native 3 bolt cleat solution.
I definitely prefer four bolt with matching shoes
@@jesikat I’ve been searching for 4 bolt shoes in the U.K. for months and there’s none. :(
@@adammillsindustries. yes, wahoo seemed to have killed that from what their support said. I'm lucky enough to still have 4-bolt shoes from years of using speedplay. I think we'd need to petition wahoo to bring that back
Nice sneaky hint at 6:17 😬
That looks really good, thank You!
Can’t wait for the power-link.
Yay upgrade time!
im watching to see how the new metal around the body of the body affects the wear issue that speed play had previously.
did they address the problem with the walkable covers falling off?
I've been using the yellow originals... no issues. I don't walk far in them though.
Think I might go back to speedplays once the powerlink version is released
6:30 - manufacturing moved from USA to Vietnam.
About damn time we got something even if it is just a graphic to go off.
Really hoping these power pedals are on par with the Duos
On going maintenance requirements???? Other than grinding them down a little from racing crits... I have never ever serviced a set of Speedplay pedals and I’ve been using and racing on them for 20yrs.
You’ve never greased them? 🧐
@@gplama mmm maybe I should have but no... other than every now and then a bit on the cleat itself. And no wobbling or obvious wear. I do have six pairs of pedals because they are on multiple bikes but the youngest set would be around maybe 11yrs old...and done many thousands of km. I rode A grade for 14yrs....not doing mega miles but enough. Not racing anymore.
Might turn out to be one of the shrewdest tech buys of the last couple of years by Wahoo. If they have the pod design similar to the assiomas then I'm guessing they will have a similar implementation of pedal dymamics to their IAV.
Anyone else excited for the power meter pedals to come out so we can see what other pedals fit on the Spindale? Loving my SPD assioma's!
Thanks Shane. I used speedplay and I’d like to see the power meter version and how much they cost and your analysis when you do it. Thanks again
Cheers James. I’ll get the video up on these power meter SpeedPlay as soon as I can. I suspect it’ll be a few good weeks.
Hmm... think I'll stick with my old nanograms for now, but it's definitely good to see Speedplay continue on even if it's now with Wahoo.
I want these! Just need to save up for a while...
This is suuuuper exciting. Can't wait to see more about the power meter.
Question : Did the spindle design change at all? or is the change to the pedal bodies only?
They're now purely hex-key install instead of having the option of crescent-wrench install.
@@TreyGruel What I meant was the pedal side. But looks like that changed as well.
A lot of riders buy the chromoly version of the pedals and buy J&L titanium spindles and (and other metal parts of the pedal you can swap) from china to make a ~142 grams speedplay pedals for very cheap.
Looks like at the moment that's not gonna be possible. (Just give it a few weeks though :) )
I’ll take the lollipop for lightest weight and largest platform.
SO STOKED !! WOOHOO WAHOO! :)
From the image of the power meter pedal that pod looks eerily similar to the Assioma pod? Is it possible that wahoo and assioma did a collaboration on this one? Those Xpedo spindles look pretty darn close to the speed play ones.
No collab I know of. I suspect if Wahoo wanted the Favero tech they could have purchased the whole company.
No way! Yes finally
Wahoo needs to do shimano pedals, I like the integration with the speedplays but ffs nobody uses those things
I’m not convinced to bottle cap top design will slow down pedal body wear at all. The basic design of how these pedals engage with the cleat pretty much ensures pedal body wear at a much faster rate than competitors pedals, and the stainless steel old Speedplay bow ties wore quickly. These look more like an aesthetic redesign than an actual change that improves durability. I guess we’ll see.
Question: will Wahoo be offering pedal body rebuild kits for these new Speedplay pedals as Speedplay used to, or are the pedals disposable once the body & metal bottle caps wear out if they do wear out?
The stainless version at $230 is a non starter IMO if the wear rate has not really been reduced, and there are no body rebuild kits to be offered.
Hmmm... HMMMM! I almost pulled the trigger on the Assioma Duos last month, but now I think I'll hang fire and see what the skinny is on these. Such teasing!
Need to talk a little bit about the size and “bulkiness” of the cleat. They were not weighed as well vs something like the shimano or look cleats. How they are to walk with, wear etc... this is something that has always been a detractor for me, maybe it’s just my assumptions that the cleats are bulky.
Same as previous cleats. I’ll weigh these and put the result on Insta later today.
I hope that when SRAM release their pedals from their acquisition of Time that you will do a review
Is there a market for a Time based power meter pedal? Time aren't all that popular here. I'm even surprised at the attention around a Speedplay power meter to be honest. An SPD-SL meter would make a lot of people happy.
@@gplama I've ridden Time ATAC on my MTB, and tourer, and gravel bike since early '80s. In fact I still have a bike with the ATAC pedal I bought in the mid-90s though the bearings and cleat grip bars on the pedal have been replaced. I've liked the float and mud clearance aspects of the ATACs.
I stayed loyal and put a Time XPro 10 road pedal on the road bike. My first road-shoe and 3-bolt cleat set up. It was an interesting acquisition by SRAM, as Time have produced shoes and I wonder if SRAM will move into that space.
I've never seen time pedals other than on TH-cam
I like the ATACs too. I use them on my MTB and they provide the best rotation other than Speedplays. For me, these are way better than SPDs.
Happy Days!
I liked the yellow
These actually look appealing. I'd be down with the power meter version if they were available right now but the timing is just off for me.
Nice!!! Thanks!
You got pedals!!! 🤯🤯🤯
Great product video. What is the standard axle lenght of the comp and the zero pedals? If I understand it correctly Wahoo offers different axle lenght of the zero pedals? Thanks.
53mm (from the crank to centre pedal) is the standard. The ZERO will have 53, 56, 59, 65. There might be other options in the future depending on demand, I suspect.
@@gplama Thanks Shane.
the Nano spec sheet shows maximum rider weight of 180lbs. Just want to check how durable the Nano pedal is. My worry is the durability of the titanium specially when you are putting more pressure on the pedal like standing up when you pedal, you might break it and cause accident. I've been using the stainless steel for more than 10 years and have no problem and no concern that the pedal will break
“Entry level” pedals for 150 euros 😅😅. People that are onto speed plays are looking at around a 30 euro up charge over old pricing. I recently moved away from my speed plays onto the Look platform and I am not really regretting it when seeing the higher prices. Interested in the new power meter pedals though 🙂
The pricing has also gone way up on both the stainless steel and titanium Nano versions which are now selling for US $ 230 and $450 respectively.
Plus, there has been no mention of whether Wahoo will offer pedal body rebuild kits like a Speedplay used to. Without rebuild kits these pedals are extremely expensive, and the basic design has a history of wearing out a good deal faster than competitors pedal bodies. I’ll wait and see if they offer body rebuild kits. If they don’t I’ll be sticking with my Shimano pedals that I switched to when Speedplay pedals became unavailable over the past year plus.
Old Zero Cromoly was 169€, so it's 20€ cheaper now. Actual market price hover in the 160 region too (saw 155€ too IIRC); so the new pedals are cheaper than the old ones from most sellers. Wiggle sells the old ones for 169€ atm.
The cheapest I saw the old ones was like 135 IIRC.
You mentioned that the Zeros come in different spindle lengths...are those coming later in the year? Wahoo'S US site doesn't list them...
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MY Christmas has come!!!
Surely they should have dropped the Speedplay name. It should have been PEDL or similar.
Huh
SPEEDPLY
@@dh7314 SPDPLY
PEDLR.
nice tease for the power ones :)
I use pedal extenders - it works for me - loved the old speedplay because of the hex on the spindle allows me to fit the extenders - I don't think im the only one. I like wahoo kit but its a no from me. Bit pee'd off with that.
Why no titanium Aero option ? Or can you change axle ?
That "hideous" yellow made identifying riders that were using speedplay in video coverage easy
I loved the older speed play pedals but, with being a light rider 60kg, I could not clip in while seated, I had to stand and jump down on the pedals to clip in. I had heard at the time I used them it was a problem for all light riders. Do you know if this has been addressed as I loved the look and the lightness of the pedals. I just couldn’t be doing with having to stand and jump down on the pedal to get clipped in.
I suspect the "Easy Tension" cleats will address this.... plus some PTFE dry lube on the cleat.
Had similar issue as a 60kg rider...did a hack by disassembling the cleat and stretching the spring by pushing it out with pliers to work it in and stretch so to speak but not aggressively. Sort of helps to accelerate the break in period. Worked a treat for me with no issues but I would only do it if you already have the cleats. If I buy again will go for the light action cleat.
Same problem for me. I used the older non-Wahoo Speedplays for a year. Literally had to jump up and down on the pedals repeatedly to get clipped in. And I used the Speedplay lube regularly. It did get easier to clip in...but it took several weeks of lots of clip-in - clip-out. And even then they still weren't that easy to clip into. Because of that, how sensitive they were to dirt, and how hard it was to get fresh grease injected (the end caps come off and grease spurting everywhere no matter how hard I pushed on the grease gun), I moved away from them. But, lately I've been having some knee pain so I'm going to try them again. The truly free rotation, adjustable rotation angle, and long (65mm) axles really are fantastic for my knees compared to pretty much any other pedal. I might try buying a set of the Easy Tension cleats and see how that goes.
Thanks for the info! I've been using Speedplay on the road and track for the last 15 years. Do you know if the track version is still a thing? I've never accidentaly unclipped from the road version, but it's nice to have the extra security on the track. I'm looking forward to seeing how the power meter version stacks up against currently available power meters.
No mention of anything other than what's in the video here.
Will there be a loyalty 'trade in' program for older Speedplays? I have 4 sets to change😲
I'd have to look at alternatives if not🤔
What part needs to be traded in?
He’s asking if you currently own Speedplay pedals such as Speedplay Zeroes will Wahoo offer such customers a trade up type discount to trade their old pedals in for new Wahoo Speedplay pedals.
Hi Shane, will the new zero pedals work with the old zero cleats as I have 3 sets of cleats that I purchased a couple years ago on the cheap.. thank you
Yes.
They look very nice indeed
Any news on restarting production of the extender plate? It’s central to making the cleat system “the fitters dream”?
One for Wahoo Support.
Hi Shane. Any news on the wahoo powerlink release date? It was supposed to be launched this summer (northern hemisphere, I guess), which is about to come to an end... Also, have you heard anything about wahoo releasing the new version of the roam? Thanks
Still waiting to hear on the power meter release schedule.
Curious if the power meter version will have different length spindles available?
No indication of this.
I’ll be interested to see how they fair with lighter riders, never bought a pair of speed plays because I’ve seen so many bad reviews from other lighter riders about them
What's the problem of them with lighter riders.
too stiff or stack height too low (= too much strain on muscles for lightweight riders) ?
@@n.m4497 too hard to step into won’t click in
I’ve run Speedplays for 15 years, and am no gargantuan. If a person can’t lock their shoe into a Speedplay pedal they either have horrible technique on the bike or they substantially over tightened their cleat bolts well beyond the recommended torque settings. Over torquing the cleat bolts caused the main cleat spring not to engage and move correctly.
Speedplays are literally one of the easiest pedals to clip in and out of when correctly set up. I would venture that all of those bad reviews are goofballs with poor technique on the bike or they stupidly did not pay attention to doing a correct cleat install and now want to blame the product rather than their own user errors.
@@maxmurray8284 I've used speedplay pedals but never found that a problem.
I wonder what is the overall weight with those cleats? Dura Ace was lighter system to older Speedplays.
instagram.com/p/CMgP_FVFk5Q/
@@gplama Manual booklet and empty box lol;) and thanks for rest which makes more sense;)
Is it possible to fit different length spindles onto the Comp model?
The ZERO will have different spindle length options. As for swapping spindles..... one for Wahoo Support.
@@gplama Thanks for the reply, I have opened a ticket with Wahoo to confirm, but its looking like I might have to return the Comp if the spindle length can't be changed.
@@gplama Wahoo just confirmed that the spindles are not swappable. So you have to buy a complete Zero pedal with a different length spindle. A bit of a shame I think for consumers wanting to try different q-factors for better bike fit/knee issues.
Wow, Wahoo have only done good things with the Speedplay brand. I've used Speedplay pedals for over 10 years due to knee issues and have loved them ever since I started using them. I have gone through multiple sets of these pedals, due to wear and tear, and the occasional crash which killed one set completely. I also like that the aero cover (read walkable) cleats are standard now as they were a £60 cost if you bought them over the counter. I'm looking forward to the day when my current set finally crap out so i can buy a set of these.
They also screwed everyone using Frogs or Syzr over. Closed the Speedplay US factory, and their own factory only produces Zero-Type pedals and cleats, production on spare parts for the other Speedplay systems is dead and the employees without a job I guess?
Will the "easy tension" cleats be compatible with the old "ultra light action" pedal?
And are the new cleats (standard and/or easy tension) compatible with the old zero pedal?
Previous Zero cleats are compatible with these. Not sure in the light action question, one for Wahoo.
@@gplama Hi Shane, thanks for the quick reply. I emailed Wahoo support and they came back to be this morning with an answer.
The legacy "light action pedals" will not be compatible with the new cleats! So everyone out there with these pedals: Stock up on those cleats ;)
BAM! There it is! I wish they would stop dropping vowels though.. 'POWR' is just wrong ;-)
So a Favero spindle/pod with Speedplay pedal body?
Not exactly.
I need new cleats for my original speedplay zero pedals. Will the new Wahoo cleats work with the old speedplay zeros?
Yes
Just to clarify if I buy a set of these can I continue to use my old cleats and go back and forth between the new pedals and old pedals on different bikes?
As long as they're Zero cleats, yes.
Any idea when the power pedals will be out? Summer is nearly over😩😩
I don’t expect they’ll hit that target.
Any rumors on price for power meters?
Nope
I caused this by buying speedplay 2 weeks ago
Me too.
I appreciate your efforts
Thank you sir
Thank you.
So what does it mean for my ultra light action pedals? Will I ever get spare parts for those in the future? It feels as if it was a mistake to buy them instead of the Zero 5 month ago
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what is the system weight compared to other pedals? pedals + cleats
Cleats weighed today: instagram.com/p/CMgP_FVFk5Q/
What is the weight of the cleats vs spdsl vs keo
Cleat weights: instagram.com/p/CMgP_FVFk5Q/
The powermeter version (depending on the price) might make me ditch my SPD pedals & finally getting a powermeter 👀
Better yet, make yourself some SPD power metre peddald, I have made my assioma Uno SPD. It's excellent! (And no weird walking around at the cafe with bulky fleet underfoot!)
basic complaint with speedplay pedals (i rode speedplays for years, then switched to SPD-SL): lack of four bolt shoe options. with the adapter plates, the system weight is no longer competitive, and the stack height goes up by nearly 3mm, which means that on dura ace spd/sl you end up with a larger, lighter, more stable platform with lower stack height that will work with nearly every shoe on the market. if Wahoo solves the 4 bolt issue, then game on. until then, hard pass from me.
how much does the cleat system weight, it looks kinda chunky
I'll throw those on the scales when the power meter is unleashed from its cage and I can do more content about those.
Any updates with the podcast? It's missed very much 😭😭
Was a lot of fun to do, just took too much time away from other content to produce.
@@gplama For my part it was the best tech podcast out. Love the content, keep it up
Not available in Canada. :-(
I know! i was ready to order them. Wonder why that is.
I kinda want to invest $$$ in Assioma Duos, but now I might wait and consider another option.
I have a feeling these are going to be much pricier than Assioma's.
Sooooo exciting....
About 4.45 in you say the comp versions are the only “non smart” versions…….not compatible with the power meter? A bit of a slip? Or did i misunderstand something?
👁️👁️
Four non smart versions, the Comp reference was “and finally in the non smart versions” as in this is the fourth and final before I get into the power meter. Maybe poor wording. I’ll fire my script writer and producer. 👌🏼
I would expect better from the huge production team you must employ 😆
I suppose these are not compatible with recessed cleat shoes (i.e. mountain bike shoes)?
Nothing changes there in regard to the cleat/compatibility. I suspect getting dirt/stones/mud in a Speedplay cleat would be a shitshow.
I use my mountain bike shoes on my road bike with egg beater pedals :). But I've broken quite a few pedals over the years.
Can it be acked for mtb as assioma power meter?
No
thanks
i really hope they're priced competitively (somewhat) with faveros, but i doubt it...
I highly doubt it as well...I'm thinking in the 900 range
@@jayward1225 1000 would be bare minimum i'm expecting tbh
Looking at moving away from Look Keos due to a release under power issue where I can't seem to unclip/unlock while climbing. Can you state if you're experiencing this issue with Spreedplays?
I haven't pulled out of either. Sounds like a cleat/pedal tension issue?
@@gplama it's not pulling our, it's the inability to clip out. I can turn around on the climb and then do so.
@@jamesmckenzie3532 Sorry, I read "release under power" and thought it was doing that.... maybe the light tension Speedplay cleats would help? You'll have to try them yourself to know.
Favero Pods ?
No. They're just similar.
What a tease!
Great review of the standard pedals. DC Rainmaker has a good video on the power pedals.
I cover as much as I can about the power pedals. Bottom line - Nobody has any actual specific detail they can publish. Wahoo had to announce them given the hype.... let's hope they can stick to the scheduled release and we can publish more detail.
@@gplama Fully understand. Look forward to getting a further update.
Can you still get them in celeste to match a Bianchi? Might have to switch to Shimano... 🙄😆