Khuzdul - The Secret Language of the Dwarves

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  • In this video, we look at the history of Khuzdul, and how it played a major role in influencing the languages of Middle-earth. We also look at some awesome Khuzdul words and names.
    Thanks to my patrons - Habimana, Ben Jeffrey, Harry Evett, Mojtaba Ro, Moe L, Paul Leone, Patricia, Barbossa, mncb1o, and Andrew Welch. Patreon -
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  • @IbexWatcher
    @IbexWatcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I’m Jewish and I appreciate you shouting out the Hebrew influence!
    Reading the books, it was easy to relate to the dwarves’ stories of continuous expulsion and migration, and the longing for lost homelands and communities

    • @Lawrence_Talbot
      @Lawrence_Talbot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not to mention our heavy emphasis for learning Hebrew. No matter where the Jewish people migrated to, we would always retain this shared language, thus creating a unified culture.

    • @isaackellogg3493
      @isaackellogg3493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Lawrence_Talbot May your beards grow ever longer!

    • @_.Leo_.
      @_.Leo_. ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @ancestralcult7051 And that the city of the dwarves was linked to Mt. Moria, which Mount Moriah is the location of the ancient Jewish Temple and center of the Jewish religion and land in Jerusalem.

    • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
      @celtofcanaanesurix2245 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not to mention there intense devotion to their creator and keeping ancient knowledge from him, as well as holy mountains which appear a lot in both hebrew text and the dwarven tradition, as well as awesome beards, and an early form of writing preserved unusually long

    • @fmls8266
      @fmls8266 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not to mention their lust for gold

  • @istari0
    @istari0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's fascinating to hear how Khuzdul, which the dwarves didn't use around others, still had such an influence on the languages of Men all those thousands of years later. I'm particularly intrigued at the similarity between names and words used in Númenór and dwarven words. It makes me wonder if there were any significant contacts between the dwarves in western middle-earth and the Númenóreans.

    • @IbexWatcher
      @IbexWatcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’d imagine that they had some trade once the Numenorians started founding settlements on the Middle Earth coastlines and expanded their trade networks. They seem to have had relationships with a lot of other peoples throughout the Second Age (Lindon and Eressea early on, then the Middle Men and Easterlings later) so it’s more than likely that dwarves took part in the trade somewhere in there

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Khuzdul influence on Adunaic (the language of the Numenoreans) mostly came from long before Numenor was founded, in the days before the ancestors of the Edain had even reached Beleriand. Basically pre-historic human language developed through early contact with dwarves before recorded history, and this ancestral language of men eventually developed into the ones we know later like Westron.

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wrote this comment before finishing the video and later realized the video actually was saying the same things that I was, so u probably already knew that bit of history and were instead specifically asking about the later contacts between the cultures lol my bad!

  • @LeHobbitFan
    @LeHobbitFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Interestingly, in Khuzdûl, the KH- sound is pronounced like in the word "backhouse", whereas in Elven languages, KH- and CH- are guttural, like the Spanish "jota"
    So when Christopher Lee pronounced "Khâzad-Dûm" in the Fellowship of the Ring, he actually made a teeny-weeny mistake.
    There, that was your nerd fact of the day!

    • @DarthGandalfYT
      @DarthGandalfYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ah, I always knew Christopher Lee was a fake Tolkien fan! Unlike me...who never mispronounces anything...ever.

    • @LeHobbitFan
      @LeHobbitFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarthGandalfYT exactly! For shame

  • @Lawrence_Talbot
    @Lawrence_Talbot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Damn how did you know I confuse Linguistics and Linguini all the time? Have bad habit of trying to order pasta, only to for the waiter to start educating me on Italian dialects 😂

    • @Spomirbe
      @Spomirbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂.
      By the way, the pasta is called _linguine_ , which literally means "little tongues" in Italian, due to their particular shape.

    • @DarthGandalfYT
      @DarthGandalfYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Italian dialects? That must've been a long conversation.

  • @LeHobbitFan
    @LeHobbitFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'd love to spend an afternoon in Humanstown, with my human friends, where we could do human things together, such as watching the television, consuming hamburgers, or partaking in the playing of videoludic games.

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, yes, the "disguised guy trying too hard to fit in, but because it is harmless, people only find him weird" type of behaviour...

  • @rileywilliams9799
    @rileywilliams9799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I live in Missouri and we have a town called Humansville. Perhaps one or more residents may soon see this video themselves.

    • @DarthGandalfYT
      @DarthGandalfYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can you confirm whether the residents are truly human? Seen any odd behaviour?

    • @domapusic
      @domapusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarthGandalfYT LOL

    • @rileywilliams9799
      @rileywilliams9799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarthGandalfYT As far as I can tell they're indeed human. Nothing odd or suspicious thus far.

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rileywilliams9799 of course they are normal: they eat food, drink liquids, and breathe like any normal Human!

  • @rimservices
    @rimservices 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Naming Khazad-dum "Dwarven town" is like naming a capital of Brazil Brasilia :)

    • @LeHobbitFan
      @LeHobbitFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My guess is it was a way to remind goblins, cave trolls and other balrogs that this was for the Dwarves alone

    • @DarthGandalfYT
      @DarthGandalfYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Or the capital of Mexico "Mexico City".

    • @mrnord4096
      @mrnord4096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@DarthGandalfYT or a random Island" Island of Man"

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, the capital of Brazil IS Brasília, so, yeah...
      Better than have the state and the capitol of said state share the same name, which in Brazil there is TWO of those...

  • @MerkhVision
    @MerkhVision 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe back in prehistoric times when the Dwarven language influenced the development of Mannish languages the Dwarves hadn’t yet become so secretive and freely shared their language with Men? Maybe it was the various hardships and tragedies that occurred later that made them so cautious?

    • @saeedshahbazian9889
      @saeedshahbazian9889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's exactly what I thought. Additionally the Sindar weren't very friendly with dwarves and as dwarves attribute their language to their maker, it takes on a very ceremonial and religious role. For sure they aren't gonna reveal it to the public. But men first came, they were children and I don't think very judgmental or threatening. So dwarves helped them grow
      On a somewhat sarcastic point, I think the dwarves liked that men had beard like them and felt more akin to them. We know that dwarves take pride in their beards

  • @reecepip4857
    @reecepip4857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What about the "swearing" Gimli does in the movie? Is that legit Khuzdul?
    Great video as always man!

    • @DarthGandalfYT
      @DarthGandalfYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's known as "Neo-Khuzdul", and it was invented for the films. I believe some was also invented for the Hobbit. A lot of Elvish in the films is also invented simply because the languages weren't fleshed out enough to be able to properly converse.

    • @reecepip4857
      @reecepip4857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fascinating, thank you! Didn't know they went that deep for the films.

  • @phoule76
    @phoule76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There must have been some language exchange programs, for immersive language learning, between Eribor and Dale in their heyday.

  • @OneFlyingTonk
    @OneFlyingTonk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video, the most evident influence of hebrew on khuzdul are triconsonantal roots (example: Khuzdul is Kh-z-d so only the vowels are changed), one small thing: we have the translation of Balin's tomb, although I am not sure if its official but it is also a full phrase in Khuzdul if its official.

  • @Der0Nibelung
    @Der0Nibelung 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tend to think of it this way; Khuzdul is a simplistic version of Valinorian, the mental language of the Valar. Valinorian, when spoken, was lengthy and difficult on the ears... hence a simpler version. On the same note, Entish may be closer to pure Valinorian than any other speech and a cousin to Khuzdul... since the Ents were taught by Yavanna

    • @DarthGandalfYT
      @DarthGandalfYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's an interesting theory. I just looked up a few Valarin words, and some of them definitely look like they could be related to Khuzdul; Tulukhastāz in particular.

    • @Der0Nibelung
      @Der0Nibelung 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarthGandalfYT Thank you for responding. It would make sense since Aule taught the Dwaves to speak, technically the first spoken language ever. Melkor and his minions (before Orcs) would've spoken (telepathy) Valarin amongst themselves... remember that the Valar, Maiar and other beings (pre Children of Iluvatar) would've not needed a spoken language

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Ents were not taught language by Yavanna, they were taught to speak by the first Elves

  • @jonystyles9473
    @jonystyles9473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice lore bro very interesting, we love your misterys videos you re the best
    cheers and keep up the good work :)

  • @wasgzzak8837
    @wasgzzak8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been watching your content for years and absolutely love it. I think you’ve built an awesome niche analysing and reasonably theorising about lore in LOTR.
    Genuine question to ask. If you think you’ll ever expanded to cover other universes you enjoy. Or start a new specific channel for them.
    But yeah dude love your scripts and your presents skills are pretty good.
    And importantly have a great time in your life and with the channel. Love your work.
    Sorry if I’ve made you puke with my speech here. Thanks

  • @saeedshahbazian9889
    @saeedshahbazian9889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay where was this video?! I would've swore I've watched all your videos at least a couple of times. But this just came up in my feed

    • @saeedshahbazian9889
      @saeedshahbazian9889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      About the video. I think dwarves safeguard their language more jealously as time goes on. They attributed it to Aule and as their distance in time grew they became more and more protective of it.
      I can see them teaching men (another bearded creature like themselves) as I think they felt more akin to them than the Eldar.
      Sindar didn't particularly like the Naugrim, so it makes sense that they don't teach it to them.

  • @Jaszi007
    @Jaszi007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thank you sir for making a video that talks about the dwarves having hidden names because I’ve looked on and off for the last 6 years to find a video where a guy mentioned at the beginning their “server is changing so this one’s gonna shutdown soon so as I walk around showing off some stuff I’m also going to talk about the lore of dwarves in middle earth” and NO ONE else I’ve seen make a video about the dwarves has mentioned that bit again about the dwarves’ names.

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    are we all going to forget Hobbiton is literally Hobbit town... Hobbit town and Dwarf hall? Is there a mansville and elf place in middle earth too?

  • @yosefzanerva806
    @yosefzanerva806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the dwarves are basically Jews. This is probably the most awesome representation of my nation in media and literature. Ever.

    • @Nikotheleepic
      @Nikotheleepic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know right? Dwarves are proud, loyal, strong, courageous, amazing craftsmen and builders, they are my favorite race in fantasy.

  • @willnitschke
    @willnitschke 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad you mentioned the Jewish inspiration.

  • @MachasDaughter
    @MachasDaughter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done!

  • @michaelsavage7884
    @michaelsavage7884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do a video on Black speech. Orcs and Ologs used it. Bet Black Uruks from Mordor used it and wonder if easterlings did?

  • @BernddasBrotB7
    @BernddasBrotB7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    'Humansville or Humanstown'... So Manchester then?

  • @supernautacus
    @supernautacus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm....If the Khazad are as the children of Heber, then, Eru will NOT forget certain promises to them about lands to be restored.

  • @anti-liberalismo
    @anti-liberalismo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe the religion of Gondor is very similar to Judaism, I thought at first they were "Christians" but I don't see such similarities with them

  • @anasqai
    @anasqai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How common the needs of this language?
    Is there Khuzdul Language ->(into) English Language?

    • @anasqai
      @anasqai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the other, a dictionary. More secrets like codes of movement too maybe?

    • @anasqai
      @anasqai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What it means anyway issit real cos "Khuzdul" means "I am an Idiot" maybe, like a slang?

  • @muenchhausenmusic
    @muenchhausenmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Catalan is so far safe from Duolingo. Unfortunately 😂 Or rather, only spanish-catalan, but not english-cat or german-cat
    But good observation there, it's a profound truth of life you have spoken.

  • @Old_Liver
    @Old_Liver ปีที่แล้ว

    “Tolkien loved linguistics, not to be confused with linguini.” I almost unsubscribe

  • @geraintjones8505
    @geraintjones8505 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing is safe from Duo Lingo 😆