Chinas negatives now outweigh the positives!!
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The best thing about China is Chairman Xi, he is so cute with his yellow fur and little red t-shirt
Two years ago I went to China and wore a polo shirt embroidered with Winnie the Pooh waving a Taiwan flag. I got stares from people but only one person said something to me, and that was my Chinese father-in-law who said it was a bad thing to wear in China. As if I didn't know that and that's exactly why I wore it to demonstrate I'm an American who stands for free expression.
@@sdcheung You must be a CCP internet troll.
@@brucebelvin2058 And 50 cents richer.
Then, there's his death grip on the honeypot.
@@yarhacijin9463 Help Chinese speak English?
As someone who has lived in Shenzhen for 8.5 years, your content resonates with me a shit ton.
What you said is so true. I am Chinese and I don't know how to explain our culture and history.
This young man is very moderate and measured in his views. Well done.
i think its called self censorship
@@burlhorse61 He's just not one-sided in views about China. His videos are about China, not just entirely about the positives/ negatives. Something good about China? He'll appreciate it. China has it's stink? He'll be sad. He's just being honest.
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Omg did he say “follow me” and pretend to walk into the green screen? GOOD SHITTTTT
Please use a little imagination
Quality video
he has done the hard yards in China already ;)
He is living in 3034
Timestamp?
I worked in China 20 years ago & experienced the good points you mention, my Son was there recently for his second trip & was not impressed, he currently lives in Tokyo.
I'm an overseas chinese who live in Indonesia and being ethnic chinese doesn't mean that you have to agree with the current government of China a.k.a CCP
It does if you're in China. Never met one outside that liked the CCP
Polar Bear You may not agree with the government but when you look at WeChat news (which is controlled by...) and can be manipulated by the government, you’re no better.
@@KazH129 I agree with you, it's not only in China, the government that interferes with media is happening everywhere, even in the western world. For example in my country, the media also heavily controlled by both opposition and government, so I can read any media from different perspectives and you can shape your own thoughts and mindset. meanwhile, in China, all media bow to the CCP single rule so your thought is likely shaped by CCP and anyone who criticizes the government will be suppressed, in the end, you will see anything only from one perspective.
What is life like as a Chinese person in Indonesia? Do you have good relations with Muslims?
Polar Bear
Yes it DOES if you actually live there.
My wife is Chinese and I've lived in Asia for 10 years.
Even outside of China, Chinese born people are mostly too scared to say anything critical of China as they grew up with the cultural revolution whereby anyone not in total compliance with the CCP was likely to be arrested, gulaged, imprisoned or just beaten to death at a struggle session.
The younger people did not grow up with that, yet are now finding that with mass surveillance, the "social credit" system and new anti-western, anti-Japanese and other various conspiracies, they are starting to learn fast.
If a Chinese born person is living outside of China, and there are millions of them, most won't risk having the local officials pay their family a visit or receive threats by the CCP that if they get out of line OS, their family will be targeted.
That is the authoritarian scum that is the CCP. Also try asking the Uyghurs, Tibetans or Falun Gong members.
You may not be obliged to agree with the CCP, but if you have family back in mainland China, you better make sure that the CCP does not find anything you say or do.
You know exactly what I mean.
I've noticed here in Thailand where I live, Chinese tourists have two standards by which they judge another country:
1) nowhere near as good as China
2) almost as good as China
That’s because you live in Thailand. Most East Asians look down on SEA. I’m sure they don’t feel that when visiting South Korea or Japan.
wokovereasy ur say really makes me laugh. I don’t think we look down on sea and I don’t think we look up at Japan and Korea. I agree with his two standards but can u stop imagining?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chinese tourists are extremely rude here
Chinese tourists do things like climb cherry trees during the Cherry Blossom festival in Japan, wash their feet in public fountains, smoke while standing next to a "no smoking sign", ignore lines for services and push people out of the way and the list of rude things they do is endless. The civilised world despises Chinese tourists.
Well yeah, name something that cannot be described by these two criteria.
I live in San Francisco. For almost 30 years, I loved a shop in Chinatown called The Wok Shop. I became enamored with clay cookware. I read an article about how the clay is a beneficial amendment to what we cook in it. I went there about a year ago to check out their inventory of clay pots. When I asked about them, The proprietress got very angry with me, accusing me of putting down the Chinese. She said they build smartphones and super trains, not clay pots. I assured her I was fully aware of all of that. I didn't say anything about the brilliant simplicity and enduring design of clay cookery. I left and will not return.
She was putting down her own wares? Good way to go broke.
Insecurity, and this national propaganda of conflating government and economy with the people, because the goal is stability and support of a monopoly power. Part of this propaganda program includes a sense of reversal from “decades of humiliation” which manifests as irritation, anger, defensive misinterpretation, xenophobia, and arrogance. Yes- the culture is not a monolithic homogenous culture. There is diversity; however, this overlay push for fervent state-conflated, defensive, nationalism is by design.
really, for no reason, u r accused?
@@nobs724 I had bought a clay pot from them years ago. I had returned to see if they had any other clay cookware. I simply asked about clay pots. Apparently they had discontinued clay pots. When I asked, she just went off on me. I have been told some Asian cultures consider it impolite to say NO, e.g. "we have these nice things over here". But she was really angry, reminding me of their electronics industry, the super trains (at first I thought she was reminding me they built our railroads. I was wrong.) That is all I said: "Do you still carry clay pots?". She was having a very bad day.
Build and design/engineer, I’d love to see her face if she ever realizes they only build that stuff there. Drunk on the kool-aid.
I've studied and lived in China on numerous occasions and can verify and agree with every point Wintston made. I agree that the one that hurts the most is the decrease in curiosity and friendliness of Chinese people. I remember the first time I was in China everyone wanted to talk to me to figure out why I was in China and where I was from and would all wave etc. The most recent time I was there, from January to August of this year, I not only experienced none of that friendliness or curiosity, but actually had multiple experiences where people would make it very clear or even just outright say they didn't want anything to do with foreigners. It just gets frustrating when all you want is to be given a fair shake and what you get in return is either being ignored or insulted.
It ’s normal to be less enthusiastic who is just a stranger. Other countries' people will be thought as equal as their own people.
Feels like being Asian in western countries sometimes
The lockdowns over the past 3 years broke the spirit of the Chinese people. Seems the government does this every 30 or so years to ensure obedience and instilling fear. The great famin, the butchering in Tienama square and the covid lockdowns, all around 30 years apart. They are psychologically breaking every generation.
@@mangonut asians are treated much better in western countries than vice versa
@@tomtemple69 totally depends
Winston, what you said about the older neighborhoods being bulldozed and replaced with high rises made me think of a discussion I had years ago at university. Someone was using the same rationale you said the Chinese government was using about how they were old and dirty and an embarrassment. I said they were diverse and social and individual and those high rise projects were about making people identical and physically and socially isolated. Council estates in England, housing projects in the US, and old Soviet apartment blocks, they all turned out very grim. They were never about modernization or affordable housing, they were about containment and control.
Having lived in Suzhou (Jiangsu), it hurts me too see this and realize that I share the exact same feelings about China nowadays..
"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." -- George Orwell
This is the current situation in our country.
NWO
@Joey Mantka It means you can tamper with history. China's 150 years of history are fake.
MrLeviathoth It is just a cheap excuse for being a coward and not admitting their wrongdoing. Chinese society encourages the worst of human nature. The sad truth is that it is a zombie land now and anyone with a soul has to flee the country to keep it. --From an ex-mainlander
It's unsettling how relevant that book is today.
This should be titles " things that i used to love about china, but now no longer exist" So sad.
You beat me to it. Just when you thought he was had positive examples there were none.
Ok so no need to watch the Video :D
Kind of Clickbaity :P
@@MrJust2times it is a cool video thou, watch it
@@cannonball666 it hurts me how he used to love china but he had to leave because of politics, his videos are great thou
@@danubilo I oped for some positiv stuff :D Maybe i do ^^
I'm so glad I found your channel. I think I'm you in an alternate universe. I lived in China and did a lot of traveling back in the 90s. My Taiwanese wife and I watched the Hong Kong handover on TV in a hotel room in China during our Honeymoon in 1997. Everything you mention here in this video is so spot on. All five positives are exactly the things I loved about living and traveling in China back in the 90s. So very sorry to hear that they are all disappearing so fast now. However, having lived in Taiwan up until mid-2019, most of those great positives still exist and make life wonderful in Taiwan.
Back around 2015, one of my expat English teacher friends in Taiwan got a fantastic offer in China, so he went for it. It was in a transitioning-rural area in the north. Once he got there, he knew he had to get out of there as fast as he could and get back to Taiwan -- China's government was going through a very strong phase of anti-America sentiment (can't remember why off the top of my head), and the extreme ignorance of the people, who immediately gulp down all government propaganda, drove them to extremely intense hostility towards any foreigners. The further away from big city areas, the more intense. My friend is 6 feet 4 inches tall, very strong and fit, and even he felt dangerously unsafe. The hatred was palpable. He spent nearly every yuan he had saved just getting the hell out of there and back to Taiwan -- and he was practically kissing the ground once he landed.
So, yes, you are in no way exaggerating anything you discuss in this video. It's heartbreaking to see the whole nation becoming like this. Thank you so much for the time, effort, and passion you give into making your videos!!
Regarding the segment in the beginning about "modernizing" city centers and getting rid of "old, dirty and cramped neighborhoods". The politicians in Sweden (where I live) did the same exact thing over here in the sixties and seventies. They went in to the citycenters all over Sweden with wrecking balls and bulldozers and just leveled whole neighborhoods (often consisting of narrow streets with wooden buildings, that housed working class people and small business) that didn't live up to their idea of a new and modern Sweden. In it's stead they erected great big concrete office buildings and shopping malls. Now they had a point about the living standards in those neighborhoods being subpar sometimes, but instead of encouraging gentle urban renewal and helping the locals clean up the more run down and dirty parts, they just wiped them of the city map. Today there are few things that the wast majority of the Swedish people hate more about what that generation of politicians did back in the day, then precisely what the politicians in China are doing to their citys centers right now... Isn't that funny? Not ha, ha funny, but you know what I mean. Those "modern" city centers are completely dead during non business hours, and completely void of any charm. No one that does not have a direct reason for going there ever visits those parts of town any more. They are urban deserts if you will... So I guess it's just more of the same old story, but instead of it being Swedish socialist politicians, it's Chinese communist politicians... Like I said, it's funny how the world keeps spinning and nothing changes.
Ofta. Vart är detta? Har aldrig hört om det tidigare.
Same thing in Belgium. the old city of Brussels was completely destroyed in the 1970s. they wanted to build a highway straight through the center of Brussels and get rid of the people there. Finally, the highway was not built but the center became an ugly, soulless place with horrible buildings. they are only rebuilding it now.
West End, Boston MA politicians cleared it out in 1970s, built these concrete towers, now everyone goes/lives in North End
@@leonarddobens6070 Nothing new under the sun then, the "modernizing wrecking balls" have a long reach, they did damage on both sides of the pond, so sad... We Swedes have a little inside joke about this era in Swedish politics. (Since Sweden was neutral during WW2, our city centers weren't destroyed by bombing.) The joke is a variant of the old "the pen is mightier then the sword" adage (and I'm paraphrasing from Swedish here). "The Social Democrats managed to do more damage to the city centers of Sweden with one single pen stroke, then what the whole of the Luftwaffe could have ever done with thousands of bombs". (Might not be a very funny joke, but it sums the whole mess up kinda neatly I think...)
They did that in London too
I'm having memories of when I first found your channel. Driving those little scooters around strange little roads / sidewalks and seeing where they went. Grabbing street foods and eating them (specifically remembering some kind of hard boiled eggs in a bag you'd keep on your scooter handle).
I think I originally found your channel because I discovered that China had knock-off lookalike cars, and then I stumbled into some reviews you were doing of your own car.
Man this feels like a long time ago now.
You both have to let go :/
@@russianbotfarm3036 Let go of memories of Winston having fun? lol
he is so arrogant that chinese people dont like him. he dare not let his vlog seen by local Chinese since few chinese know english. china, china, china, bad, bad, bad. all his vlogs.
I can totally relate to your report on changing China. My Japanese wife and I were teaching there many years ago. Sadly, neither one of us would wish to return.
Taught there for 2 years. Leaving there felt fantastic. I learned to appreciate the U.S. more than I ever have before. China? Never again.
The most positive thing about traveling in China is how THRILLED you are when you get back home!
@Barrack Obama Vlogs, thought that is boring come on down in an American small town..
That's why I rather travel Japan.
LOL 100%
IF you make it back home with all your organs intact.
@@carvercapitalequitypartner122 you will, what they're doing is political persecution, though that has backfired a bit.
Positive things I experienced in China: my 15 rmb noodle man
Negative things I experienced in China: everything else
The destruction of historical buildings to replace with "better" versions made me shiver.
Similar to Saudi Arabia's destruction of early Islamic heritage sites.
I have little respect for a culture that do not respect its past.
But, hey, I'm a weird guy I still have my grandfather's old typewriter and 200 year law books from my great-grandfather.
@Michael Morris Thanks.
They call it modern or advanced.
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@@waterheaterservices Its not about whether or not you "agree" with the history its about keeping history for the sake of history. Christianity has a bloody history also but we should destroy historic Christian landmarks, even if they were associated with the crusades. Such things should be preserved for the sake of understanding the past.
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I live in Canada ..and I have really enjoyed watching your videos, you are an empathic soul, an observer of life
From LA - "So how far is it to China?"
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I'm fine with being mediocre.
I am Chinese, thank you .you speak truth .you are a good man.
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You pretty much hit on the things I loved about China. But also, working as I did in a professional service company (British-owned construction project management), I was privileged to work with some of China's brightest minds and biggest hearted people. Although my wife had a very different experience working for Siemens in China (with lot of hangers-on playing poisonous political games), the people I worked with were top-notch: smart, competent, diligent, courteous and a delight to be around every day. We had to have good people like that to make it as a service industry, because our only asset was our ideas and our competence in advising our clients (other western investors in China).
The most positive experience of China for me is... that I've never been to China..!
you are not missing much. go to Japan, Thailand or Vietnam instead - much better experiences
The cost has skyrocketed but quality have not caught up.
sounds like America. but I don't disagree.
Winston you looked a bit sad at the end of that video,.It kind of tells me from the heart that you really loved China .
I saw the same thing in Poland. I was there in 89 and then came back for vacation in 93. They had wiped out the local fast food for a Taco Bell, KFC and Burger King crap. so sad.
A lot of non Chinese (my self included) absolutely loved living in China as well as the Chinese people and their culture. However in the last few years China has changed and for foreigners anyway is becoming a more difficult and unpleasant place to live.
I myself have lived in China for the last 12 years, I can relate to everything you say, however! I live in rural Sichuan province, yes over the last decade infrastructure has sure improved dramatically compared to when I first came and for the better. Street touts are now banned that used to block the pathways and road sides, it has been cleaned up a great deal. But cost of living has almost doubled, and 12 years ago the exchange rate was great, like 14 rmb to the UK pound. With the RMB getting stronger, it now costs much more to live like a decade ago...
I am sure the police in the rural areas are much friendlier than the big cities, here they take you out to eat, offer you a cigarette lol... and they pop round to my home every 2 weeks instead of me having to go to the station for the fortnightly pictures of me...
Downside now, foreigners have to do a pee test for drugs, and yes it's a nightmare getting a new bank account opened now.
For me in the Rural side, only good things have been done to make life better, and yes I am a village type and not a city dweller.
But China is now my life and my home, and I'll go with the flow.
I've heard you need to have Chinese Id to buy a local sim card now, is it true? How does a tourist get one?
@@loveislove2359 Not necessarily true. There are tourist SIM cards with unblocked internet access. Though if you would want to apply for a genuine "local" SIM, it has indeed become harder as that typically require you to have a local Chinese resident to act as sponsor. But, in the off chance, you might get lucky with certain Telco and can make a purchase with your passport alone. More importantly, I am genuinely puzzled why this tighter regulation is perceived as a "step backward". Singapore has this SIM purchase restriction for foreigners long before China does out of immigration control/social security purposes. Stay positive :D.
Hi Jonathan, if you have the time, please check out a TH-camr by the name of Daniel Dumbrill. He's a great TH-camr based in Shenzhen.
Why would the RMB getting stronger mean the cost of living is going up? If a currency gets stronger, that means it can buy more stuff. This would mean cost of living going down. I don't understand.
You are experiencing exactly the same thing that my friends told me about how foreigners living in China feel.
First stage. Amazed at China and hated their country’s media. When they arrived, they saw this huge big fancy cities and were amazed and upset on how their own media described China.
Second stage. Enjoy the special treatments they get. People welcome them warmly, take them to bars and restaurants, have fun everyday if they want.
Last stage, Disappointed. they see all the restrictions people endure in this country, and find out the reason all these pretty girls hanging out with them is they want to either learn English or getting married and get out of China.
nailed it. it takes awhile to see the man behind the curtain.. once you see him, you want outta there for good
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genetics, genetics, genetics.
No more "Grand Guilin Adventure" series type of travelogues... That's sad. The loss of the urban villages is absolutely tragic. It shatters the culture. But turning the areas into drone-in-a-box poorly built apartment blocks does kill off the individuality that is anathema to party control. Wiping out those villages also kills any kind of "hometown" loyalty and leaves only the state to be the common binding entity. It begs the question: Is China heading towards becoming North Korea writ large?
I think communism gives those few "party members" the high ground and de-humanizes the people. I have to ask "Why are Chinese incapable of self-determination and personal freedom?" given that so few of them live in a free society. China is a cheap place to live, but I wouldn't want to give up freedom. The situation Hong Kong faces is tragic - it will not work out well taking away everyone's freedom.
Laowhy (the other guy) argued that a couple of months ago.
Yes, China is becoming North Korea.
China always was North Korea -- the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, ...
The people are merely ants. The Party killed tens of millions of them without any scruples. There are always plenty more ants, regardless of how many the Party kills.
China is becoming what Japan and Germany were in 1930s-40s. Very scary.
That extremist virulent nationalism (usually called "racism") that is the bugaboo of Western countries today is a very real thing in China.
The Party is very stupid when it destroys urban villages and makes all people the same. They think people will always follow them. They are wrong. Just wait till this whole mass of humanity turns against them.
@@Kurtlane Meh. Germany didn't destroy its own stuff.
It should be called "What I used to love about China"
Thanks. That was a sincere and good analysis of the effects of the recent changes in China. Give me more food for thought on whether I should do my move eventually! Greetings from (what it is left of) Hong Kong! Cheers ;)
im swiss, for me any restaurant outside of switzerland is "omg this is half for free" ...
Everything you liked about China n the beginning you can find in Vietnam -- and they are much friendlier, their's much less food contamination an its much cheaper.
Much less food contamination? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎I am VIETNAMESE.WINSTON IS A COMPLAINER AND LOSER .AS HE IS NOTHING BUT A PATHETIC PERSON WHO WAS REJECTED IN CHINA,NOW HE TRIES TO FIND "SYMPATHY" IN VN.AND GRADUALLY HE WILL TRY TO DIG UP NEGATIVE THINGS IN VN ,HE STARTS BADMOUTHING VIETNAM.DON'T BELIEVE WHAT HE TELLS
@@EmmaNguyen-mg5xq you sound like a southerner
Very cool. Learn the lesson from China on the things not to do. Maintain your cultural heritage.
huong nguyen blink twice if you were made to comment that against your will by Winnie the Pooh your leader?
@@EmmaNguyen-mg5xq Well done you are very convincing, NO i really mean it.
LOL so childish
When asked about destroying the old villages, I remember a Chinese said very confidently "we'll make it older"!
Lmaoo underrated comment
Atomic Boy what does it mean?
@@didiprangsak1757 He meant when they will rebuild they will make it more historical, of course its impossible.
because these old villages aren't really that old in the first place.
@@atomicboy8972 Well certainly they are destroying old bungalows instead of ancient temples, and their purpose is to make them residential areas. I don't quite understand WHY would they make them more HISTORICAL, let alone the fact that they are not historical to start with.
Maybe you are just growing up and beginning to see reality.
No...things have in fact changed for the worse...
@@jebatman756 I partially blame Trump. He poked the bear over and over and over... But I mostly blame Mao.
There is no paradise anywhere on earth. You have to learn to make do with what you have. This why I am still in South Africa.
YES! From the moment I landed in China I knew it was a complete shit-hole.
@@HeinRichKocHPretoria well even South America isn't the same as almost 2 decades ago.
When I was in China with my beautiful Chinese wife, I told her I was hungry, she brought me to a back alley, dirty place and found a hole in the wall restaurant. Inside the restaurant it had a couple of chairs and tables and spider webs on the walls. I was very concerned but she told me this is good food here. So she ordered food and I will tell you it was the best Chinese food I ever had. It was so good that after eating in such a place I told my wife lets find another hole in the wall restaurant please. She laughed, she always found one in a dingy alley somewhere no matter what city we were in. It was way better than the Chinese version of KFC which I was not impressed with at all. The chicken is too dry.
Trump Zilla “the chicken was too dry”. Sounds like the American version of kfc. Popeyes for the win!!!
@@theinsufferablebutthole8923 NO no no no....The KFC here in the States is moist and greasy. Nothing like the chicken at KFC China.
Trump Zilla meh. I haven’t had it in years. The last time I did it was dry. I’ve been a Popeyes concert since then.
Haha same. Best food in China I had in the dirtiest restaurant i ever seen.
Those little eateries are fantastic but they do seem to be disappearing being replaced by overpriced, dull chain restaurants and eateries.
Don't worry. Taiwan will preserve that precious culture, and much more.
Them and HK.
Outta curiosity, why the Português playlist?
Even Macao should go the Hong Kong way. Long live Taiwan.
@@ruicosta6474 Porque sou professor de Português e Inglês em Taiwan.
@Kazuhira Miller CCP policies messing up with demographics, soon them either. CCP is following the same steps the KMT walked to democratization. The authenticity of their government is already been questioned among their citizens. Why Chinese people need VPN? Does the CCP anything to hide? CCP's integrity is gradually being reduced with their standpoint on provocation and intimidation against Taiwan and Hong Kong, that during the '50s to the '80s did so much to help China. CCP is spitting on the soup they ate for so long. Ungrateful CCP.
@@youxkio que foda, cara. Nunca imaginei que teria mercado para isso em Taiwan!
A typical thing I hear today: "I went to China, and there was no China there."
oh, a really poor china is what you wanna. you feel like you are superior when u come to some poor place and get satisfied. I will tell u wake up. china will be as rich as you people are.
@@xianglu1505 stfu
@@xianglu1505 It's not about a poor China. Go to Taiwan and you will also see a China that embraces its tradition and modernity. And the average Taiwanese is richer than the average Mainlander.
xiang lu there’s millionaires with chinese parents here in california but they aren’t allowed to help the chinese economy because they’re american citizens? that’s pretty unfair. restricting travel is not how you become the world’s superpower
@@xianglu1505 It'll be another enslaved shithole like the Western countries. Many Westerners travel to East Asia to experience the relative economic freedom you have had, compared to the West. You'll see in a few years, when most Chinese people can't afford to do anything but work 24/7...as they do in the West today. You won't believe me now, but you'll find out later.
Winston lived in Shenzhen, a first-tier city. Outside of the tier-one cities, the cost of living is still low.
I loved China, went to Shanghai mostly, but also the capital Beijing and the old southern capital of Nanjing, all on business trips in the mid 2000. After what I hear and see from you and your friend driving around on MCs, China is a no and certainly not a place to bring my family as I planned for a holiday. Thank you for both of yours videos! Peter
I was live at Shenzhen 6 years, 99% agree with You. +++++
But you also don't want to move, lol....
@@yunanan39 I already left Shenzhen for forever, because what i loved there doesn't exist anymore.
@@cardiagshopcardiagshop5638 Good for you and good for China.
such a shame, I can see this happening more and more not only to china but also other countries in SEA
But then again progress is inevitable, I just wish they did it better
I also loved what I call 'real' China. The uniqueness associated with buying cheap street food from the portable stalls and the slip ally restaurants. The cost of living was nice and it permitted me to also enjoy a lifestyle that is currently inaccessible to me in Australia. Some of the local Chinese were very warm, welcoming and lovely; while others were not (I got mixed feeling). I stayed in some second and third tier cities, not just Shanghai or other first tier cities. I rode on the bullet train and the slow trains as well as the maglev. Something Australia lacks (bullet trains and maglev). Work life balance was reasonable but not as good as others received while in China. I think this was due to the start of the changes occurring. But, sadly, China has changed. They only seem to be purely interested and motivated by new technology and money; nothing else. This became apparent to me via their visa prioritization restructuring, and a discussion with a local Chinese woman who was desperately trying to sell the idea of commercial real estate albeit for production in one prominent second tier city. Also, I noticed as a 'lao wai', I was being faced with increasing hostility, including when the Chinese perceived they were wronged, they charged me more or made normal routine processes more difficult. My father and I had to depart from China due to increasing hostilities as well. My father spent ten years in China and I spend two. I like you and Laowhy86's videos very much and I can relate with a lot of topics you both discuss. Thanks.
.However, keep in mind that lower prices for goods mean workers getting paid less and having to work more dangerously or in impoverished conditions. Of course, maybe the proceeds are actually going to corrupt official instead, which would not be good. But the other hand that still wouldn't change that if it _were_ to go to the people, you'd _still_ have to tolerate the significantly increased prices to avoid exploit labor. So your concern should be more about where that money goes than about everything not being so "cheap" anymore.
@@mike4ty4 > lower prices means people are being exploited
No, because the cost of living is lower for the workers, too.
Mate, this is messed up, and such a blatant display of your colonialism mentality. Why should China stay in the past to please you when they want to move on to a better living? Ask the street vendor, if he were able to, would he rather sell "cheap street food from the portable stalls" to or have more financial stability by working hard by pursuing "new technology and money"?
@@georgeowell4450 Serpentza's good times are gone, and he doesn't have a clear future. He couldn't have predicted that China would change, or else you could blame him for not planning ahead. As it is, he's in a slightly tough spot; you can understand his being bummed out and taking it out on China. I'm no fan of China btw, there's plenty to bash, but I get the sense that Serpentza lost more than eg Laowhy, who is in his native country and seems more comfortable with the whole thing.
@@georgeowell4450 China wants to move onto a better future.. yes for the elites at the top, they don't care who they step on to stay there. Just ask the Uhyghers or the HongKongese or practitioners of Falon Gong, or the Canadian who is being executed purely as revenge, or all the English teachers who have been ripped off and mistreated in China etc etc etc. You need to check your own mentality because you are clearly deceived.
Thank you for sharing all of these insights. Indeed, it's great to hear about how some things have changed over the years that you have lived in China -- whether for better, or for worse.
enjoid your series for years buddy . keep your head up . cheers yo
My girlfriend lives in Shanghai and I spend extended time there by usually renting an Airb&b. We’ve been together around 4 1/2 years. I agree with you...old China markets and communities in Shanghai are my favorite places to “hang out” in. However, in the last 2 years...whole areas have been wiped out and replaced with generic store fronts or huge apartment high rises. It’s really sad and it’s turning into a cookie cutter appearance. One other thing I totally agree with is the price of things. I live in the U.S. and it’s cheaper to grab a coffee and a nice lunch here than over there. Food service products in Shanghai are pretty damn expensive.
Then again, it is Shanghai. Everything is outrageously expensive in Shanghai.
You don’t even have to go to a very rural area to get refused at a hotel because they don’t accept foreigners. I’ve been refused several times in SHANGHAI for this reason.
Thank you for the warning. Going to China next week. I will minimize my visit.
What is the point of having a hotel if that doesn't accept foreigners ?
They have to have a permit to host foreigners. If they don’t have this, you’ll get refused.
Which hotel? I’ve stayed in easily over 100 and have never had a single issue and that’s including Chinese owned hotels.
Robert Hardy China is in the process of another "Big Leap Backward" into Mao's era.
I have been watching your vlogs over the years and I must say you have been consistently honest with your views and opinions. Greetings from Canada.
Thanks for sharing!
CCP: we claim this whole ocean because of a map from 1000 years ago.
Also the CCP lets destroy our own culture and history because we want to build highrises and dams.
*empty high rises Haha
Isn't the map only from the late 1800's? Apparently is was only first recognised by China in 1947. But the Portuguese founded Macau in 1577. They mapped their routes to Asia as well. So China, and everywhere from India to Beijing actually belongs to the Portuguese. They should make 200 dash line from Lisbon to Japan...
@@robspunk I don't think they are first to map that route nor the first travel the world, if you compare the biggest ship in Portugal 1557 and the song dynasty expedition force back 972 (also has air tight compartments at the bottom of the ship to prevent sinking), you will find the song dynasty 1000 ton ship is 3 times bigger in size at least, and map the entire South China sea and beyond,. So in this case your sattire example makes no sense and is pretty bad.
Most Elites destroy everything.. But Chinese need to stop buying the Traditional medicine, come on, Tiger penis, Rhino horn, Pangolin scales, people buying and supplying these types of products need to be gone ASAP.
The Elites that don't go with the flow will end up face down in the Kim Kim river.
@Throw Cum Cubes At Alpha Centauri I don't know why you become really defensive, i only just said his example were pretty bad and made no sense. I don't support the 9 dash line, and it is true many island belongs to japan since they control most of the parcific waters. Personal attack just shows you are a giant baby rather than full grown adult.
I love your videos I’ve been watching your content for years
In a way, as a Foreigner, you did really experience a golden age of hospitality and development in China. I am very happy to hear your perspective. I have watched your videos for years and I think your perspective is becoming more and more important. Much love to you!
0:50 nice green screen shot there with the focus pull and everything :D
Imagine an American restaurant charging Chinese more than others. There would be lots of CCTV aka CGTN aka SCMP videos talking about it.
Also plenty of leftists protesting outside, calling for boycotts, smashing windows etc.
Woke
17 years in china, was never overcharged in a restaurant. he is spinning things for views
@@MMABeijing he did not say that every single restaurant charges foreigners more. I didn't have that problem in the mainland either. but even a single fact of that shows how things are.
@@timurermolenko2013 well everybody having travelled to china can testify that foreigners get the same prices as locals. also if you were a saudi prince visiting the USA you would find examples of being abused, especially if u did not speak or read chinese.
I found that when Chinese people like you, they are so very kind. I love how Chinese people share food together.
Thanks for the interesting videos
I have been binging on your videos and learnt so much about Chinese society, culture, etiquette and sociology. It has been an enjoyable and fascinating insight. Thanks for the journey. I'm now a fan and subscriber. Cheers
Positive thing about China.. it's near Taiwan, Vietnam, Russia and Korea.
MrMontyFontaine
Korea is shit
Laharl Krichevskoy south korea is actually very beautiful. and I dont like that word
allegedly
@@laharl2k How is Korea shit? have you been there? South Korea is honestly Amazing, the food is dope..the views are killer...
Or you assuming all south koreans follow north's life and views?
@@laharl2k Seoul is quite charming with its many cafés, happy young couples, and enjoyable and interesting with the occasional real saunas (like Scandinavian hot saunas), sleeping pod hotels, interesting shops, and it provides a civilized relief from the strangeness and frustrations of China. Cars stop for pedestrians, there's no spitting, etc. You are back in the first world, yet now with an east Asian twist. Quite nice! The few Koreans I've met in the west have been unusually odd people (not in a good way -- probably just bad luck), so it was a positive surprise to feel at home in Seoul. Been there a bunch of times to renew my Chinese visa.
@@laharl2k you're shit
Well I do agree with you, use to have great time in China, people were friendly and curious. Now it comes across as hostile, even those I know are guarded. Especially when in Shanghai there use to be a charm, warms.
People live in fear of the CCP?
@@dennishassler605 is the propaganda, is all very negative towards the west. Also I feel because China has become powerful, people start having a superior complex
@@tobyxi9921 well till the west stops ignoring the truth and halt all the trade with China, it still gonna live sadly
@@ED_667 The West is run by Big Business psychos that have no national loyalty. They only care about cheap labor and profits...they will happily enrich China and destroy the Western nations for these things. It's also the prime reason the Western countries are the only ones with open immigration policies...trying to immigrate in as many foreign workers as possible to lower salaries.
what a surprise...racist white guy marries his submissive asian doll to satisfy his perverted fetishes yet hates her country of origin.
You have great perspective!! Thanx
I like the security in the subways (makes me feel safe) and the cleanness and the destinations written in English/Chinese in the newer trains
but then there's the people - the spitters, snotrocketers, public pissers/shitters, smokers, filthy air, filthy water, filthy food ... where are the positives? you like food stalls, night life, villages? go to thailand - they are clean there
Dancing grannies. I love watching the dancing grannies in the town square. That's something I'll miss when I go home
beware the guang chang wu....lol.
they take no prisoners.
Just when there's nothing to watch.. >Glasses swoosh
I think the "swoosh" sound byte came from a kung fu movie.
Love your content 👌
4:27 is that a Mass Effect hoodie?! Nice!!! :D
You know China so much!! that’s all the false of CCP! Thanks for speaking for the Chinese people. I love China but China should have been ruled by a party that truly cherish real Chinese culture and Value .
Exactly, CCP shouldn't and doesn't represent China, but unfortunately, CCP is in power now. Sadly, it may take some time until CCP is driven out of China.
The Chinese people must want democracy, instead of dictatorship, to ensure a better future and to be prepared to wade through a river of blood to get at the same few that withhold that power from them now. It will be (it is) a very bloody revolution, but if the leaders of this revolution are responsible caring human beings with a clear vision for the prosperity and power of a future democratic China then the gravitas, economic prosperity, inventiveness, soft power AND global leadership China can achieve will be enormous.
Winston Smith utter rubbish
About that. I know tons of people are upset with the ccp. What percentage you think is the disapproval of the ccp and want reform?
I noticed especially the regular workers and students mostly would complain about the government to me.
@jshowa o yeah I agree. I think any form of government in China is accepted as long as they care for culture and freedom.
Single-model development in a vast nation (bound to be a disaster w/ an epidemic or down economy), and state-driven thought-monogamy even among the educated youth, were really the reasons that drove me out.
There is also a change in attitude and values too now that they have means to push others around, from national to individual level.
If I’m to speak of a positive, it’d be that their infrastructure is new, if it doesn’t collapse. An understanding that all things get old would’ve taught them a thing or two about humility.
I like how your video quality and editing skills have gotten better, not that they were bad but its good to see your improvement.....Keep up the quality videos champ, suit game is on point.
This is saddening. I've watched your videos for a long time and always loved your positive view on China. Sad to hear things are changing for the worst.
At about the 13 min mark "gullible" was not the word you were looking for, it was "Programmed"
Hello, I was in China in the 80's and from what I see the old China is gone.
What was China like in the 80s versus now? How did it contrast?
@@illuminocalypse5210 I am Chinese, borned in early 90s. I lived in the US for 7 years. Things did change a lot in China in both good and bad ways. The gov tightened policies a lot in many areas now(movies internet social media censored, Foreign Exchange Control etc). I mean you can't say for sure if those are good or bad because group of people actually support those policy but I just personaly hate it. Of course air pollution was a huge problem but it's getting better now. Antibiotic and uneatable chemicals used in food especially seafood in order to keep them alive or better looking by some dealers. It's better now because of the heavy punishment but food safty is still a problem for sure. Of course there's inflation here.
On the other side, people are getting higher quality of life. Salary income increased a lot. My mom earned about 30 dollers a month back in the 80s and that's above the average. From 2004 the program of extending power supplied in villages many people saw electric light for the first time. Younger generations are well educated. Medical level improved.
Those are the biggest changes pop up to my head. I am sure there are people miss the 80s(hard life with good memories) but I doubt that people wants to live back in the 80s again. I can understand why some foreigners claimed China changed.
In the old days, Chinese are more or less worship of foreigners because they are rich and high educated and good looking I guess. Can you imagine the whole city's police going out to the steet to search just a missing wallet for a foreigner and they find it within 12 hours. I lost my phone and I called the police, they asked me to wait and I waited for 10 years it still missing. However that's the old story
love your work bro
This video shows the change in peoples attitude that seems to me to be a very realistic assesment. I even find my key business associates in PRC having a drastically different attitude, from their earlier strong criticism of the CCP. Their anger against the lifestyle of senior party functionaries living it up at their cost seems to have vanished and they only rant against foreigners including the idiotic Indian leaders who have grabbed their land that is part of Tibet while emphasising that Tibet is part of China because China owns it since 1959!
That old guy spitting snot out of his nose on the frikking side walk, I thought smokers coughing up their glumps of crap and spitting it on the road was bad but that's even more disgusting...
To compare - back when people carried cloth handkerchiefs, they thought blowing your snot into a rag and stuffing it back into your purse or pocket was just as disgusting (read that in, I think, the book on India "My Heart Has 17 Rooms" written back in the... 1950's? American woman goes expat with her husband and kids to India where he was an engineer on new dam construction, and she volunteers in a small local hospital just to avoid being what was then the typical American Housewife Overseas.)
I lived in China two years. I have seen that snot scene sooooo many times but also from young women, old women, etc. They truly are filthy. God I don't miss it.
Welcome to London. It isn’t just China it is everywhere around the world.
At least it's not the government doing it
Dario Guilherme What's the difference?
@@didiprangsak1757 the government uses taxes to do it, you are basically being asked to leave your house with your money
Fuck off lol ive spent tonnes of time in london dont compare that to china
@@0Kyron0 you fool you spent lots of time in London I live here. All I'm saying is it isn't just happening in China. Maybe not to that degree but it is happening.
China is beyond any scifi movie, the dystopian society thats seeming to emerge form there moment to moement is fascinating. Love your videos
My jaw literally dropped when that man blew the contents of his nose onto the street.
Get used to it ... and step aside.
To give you an idea of the contrast between Hong Kong and mainland China, blowing your nose like that or spitting on the street in Hong King is actually illegal.
I have a Chinese guy who works with me sometimes. He does this every morning and often wipes it on adjacent shop windows. He's still a nice guy to work with
It was called a sailor’s blow back in the day in working class England.
@@nigelalderman9178 Fucking gross.
@14:16
"KOYAANISQATSI...."
Ha, that guy staring at the camera reminded me of that film.
Winston yet again another great video and presentation of China. As always stay safe over their and watch your back from the uk 🇬🇧 😉 👍
It's interesting to see these videos from even a few months ago.
Very true... good job 👍
Winston and CMilk's videos are always spot on. They tell it how it is.
@StrategicFooyoo It's fine if you don't like their videos but they are right on with their analysis. Air pollution has gotten worse, you can't drink the water there, the cost of living has risen dramatically, freedom of speech has gotten worse, the internet more restricted, cheng guan shutting down more night markets and street vendors. These issues have nothing to do with Winston.
@@leeoli6962 then why dont you take their arguments and use your own logic to refute them and prove them wrong?
两个被中国政府和社会驱逐的傻逼。
@@shijianboxiong8667 You sound like a pussy and probably look like one too.
@@JakeWang-lt2fg They will not expel them because they did nothing wrong. There's no lies at all in their videos.
I arrived here in 2002, still here, and sadly everything you said in this video is true.
Renata Jastrzebski hopefully you used a VPN to post this comment ... oh wait hopefully not nord VPN
allegedly
Polska nie dobra? Lol
@@X-Prime123 I am Australian born and unlike a lot of Poles who went to Aus in the 1950s my father did not change our family name to 'fit in'.
@@Wickedtingzz Tried Nord, didn't work at all, they refunded the money, no complaints in that respect.
Renata Jastrzebski well that is good I suppose. thought I wonder how long ago was this ? because I wonder if this was part of there policy before there recent scandal of poor security and or discretion
allegedly
great info keep going
I love your background shots.
Had three goes to find a hotel that had a license to accommodate foreigners when visiting (in 2017) a rural area with my family and my granddaughter's best friend and the best friend's mum, who was Chinese. The owner of the first hotel we tried was very helpful. Gave us a great lunch at no charge and went down the road to find us a hotel where we could stay. Even so, once we'd checked into the second hotel, 12 policemen arrived (2 cops for each of us) to check us out. They didn't give us any trouble though and we had a great time in this scenic area where we were the only foreigners. The best friend's mum was invaluable: she could fix things for us and negotiate (hard) with the locals because she was Chinese. Have had two month-long trips to China (the second one was in March & April 2019) and enjoyed both trips greatly. My wife and I are independent travellers and were not on package tours either time. We stayed in a mixture of hotels and in our family's apartment in Tianjin. Should add that none of our family is Chinese. We generally found people (other than taxi drivers) helpful and friendly.
My favourite thing about China is the departure lounges at the airports.
Well said.
Pretty sure the locals felt as happy as you when they saw you in the departure area.
Didi Prangsak
Didn’t matter really, their credit score wasn’t high enough to join me.
vgnhdhe he pays him in honey dipped schlong schnitzel
allegedly
Didi Prangsak haha it's so funny how sensitive they are ... people really don't understand how deep the 'century of shame' is for them . ) or whatever it's called)
allegedly
Ty. Ive learned so much. Fan.
Your one hell of a dude man, I thought some of my friends were tuff, glad I got your channel by accident! Good to here the truth, the sad truth.
Wow how you're video's have changed, i remember you were always drinking eating out relaxing etc...
Old China sounds a lot like Vietnam ..I meet so many friendly people going out buy me beers and all kinds of stuff. Hope Vietnam doesn't go in same direction. Good upload Winston !
Vietnam is going the same way...sadly
@@RockDavid I live in Saigon ....seems pretty good still but there are few signs of it
Great review
19:58 that lady was really aggressive eating that meal, haha..
8:44 i totally hate this queue in train stations
As for positive things about China, I was last there in 2003, had an amazing time, but I know the China of 2003 is long gone.
Don't be brainwashed.
@@arthritis2718 are you saying china of 2003, before the big leap in modernization is the same as now?????
When i was in Shanghai cars were still uncommon and everyone rode bicycles. I am pretty sure that is long gone.
Great Video
Perfectly put into words 💯