This is actually a great way of doing a review of an urban commuter! First time watching a video from your channel and I won my subscription! :) I find it super useful to have the opinion of a young rider like me and also more experienced rider. Thanks lads, great job!
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Honestly I'm just glad to hear somebody who knows how the letter 'C' works in Italian. Props for saying LeonCHINO and not some jersey-italian travesty.
I am 36 now and i decided to start riding bikes.. i must say for starters its a absolutly brilliant and forgiving. Im very happy and thanks for the review guys ....
Being an owner of the street version of the leoncino I have have to say I've found it great as my first 'big' bike. Power delivery is nice and smooth and being about 5ft11 I find the riding position comfortable. I have commuted on it, normally using the lanes and it is brilliant. It also sounds much better without that huge cat box which is just for sound deadening. The parts backup unfortunately is appalling, took months to get a small part even with the shop calling the importers pretty much every week to find out where the part was
Will Stubbs Thats great! I think the engine is much more suited to road riding really. Shame about the parts delivery. Don’t forget to subscribe if you haven’t already 👊🏼
I'd throw a skid, minimalist handguards, and legal knobs on one of these. They look pretty good in person too. At 5'8"/30" inseam, it seems to fit me well. 'Much lighter than the Triumph Scrambler 900. About similar weight and power as my DR650s.
Ive only seen them in the showroom but it seemed quite a tall bike. The trick with the rear mudguard would be to add a thick piece of rubber to keep gunk off the radiator.
Thanks for another great review 👍 I think that this reviewed bike is especially interesting for younger people, aged 18-20 years. Not too much power, light, nimble. I like the look / the pattern of the seat, reminds me of bikes of the 70s and 80s. There is only one problem for the younger people: The "small lion" is not really cheap; here in germany you have to pay approx 6,5 K € for it. And it is definetely not suitable for small people with short legs
Michi Schalusenbach Thanks my friend! We loved this bike and it’s certainly spot on for the young rider, with the style and easy power. Youngsters with a bit of cash!
A rerun of the very first of your videos I saw. I wouldn't say no to one secondhand. Getting a bit tired of my 390 Duke. Glad you dropped the distracting background music. Like the flight jacket, Ol' Man.
Nice review as always except you spend to much time referring to how it will be off road when i think everyone knows it has zero off road pretentions and only a trail bike in style (the front mudguard and tyres confirm this)... I like these and a great price too
@@MrDarcy-OlMan i have a Benelli tnt899 last of the Benelli bikes made in Italy. İ wish you can test ride this raw beast. No abs no modes no tc. Pure power.
Another good review guys thanks 🛵 Surprised they allow the emblem on the front mud after all they did outlawed the pedestrian slicer years ago. If it’s reliable it’s a decent little bike for the price I’d personally change out the front guard for a decent one but imho it’s a adventuriish style bike and not really a bike for green lane-ing I’m 6’1” so a tad short for me in the seat to bar ratio
As you remarked, very short gearing. I recall a two stroke Suzuki T500 I had in 1975, which made about the same BHP but did 80 MPH at 5,000 RPM. Also, 360 degree parallel twins seem to be a dying breed nowadays, which makes this bike quite unusual.
Just discovered you guys by looking for a review on this bike. Thanks for your review. I sat on one in the shop a few days ago but I don't think the salesperson was really listening to what I needed. I am looking for a bike to go a bit off road here in Australia (I want to travel around the country) on quite a bit of normal roads but also take it on unmade outback roads like the Birdsville track which has gibbers on it. I have a feeling after your review that this is probably not the right bike. I am also looking at a GS650, V-Strom or similar. What would you recommend? Are these bikes ok on normal road too? Curious as to what you would recommend. Cheers.
Thanks hun! The Benelli is definitely more a road bike than off road. We don’t like‘adventure’ style bikes, especially off road; they are cumbersome and restrict movement. The Husqvarna Enduro 701 LR is our choice but it depends how tall you are because it’s quite high.
Nice review guys! I own a transalp 650 for 12 years now, I'm looking an this leoncino, I don't know why? Maybe I'm getting old and I like more classic style bikes, or maybe it's just the fact that I don't do many long trips anymore due to family responsibility and lack of time. It seems a little bit small to me but I haven't had the chance to go for a test ride... Would you go for it, leaving the transalp 650?
I like this bike and I think it has a better engine then the new CB500X … I recon you could prolly fit the TRK502 exhaust onto it (with some pipe work) and make it lighter and more dirt worthy … id also jack it up an inch or two with a suspension upgrade … and that lump in the seat needs to go … plus make a tail tidy to give it a better aesthetic length on the back and lose 2 or 3 kilos by dropping that rego bar on its back wheel.
saturated fat Really good points my friend! Adventure bikes have even worse seats; I don’t know how anyone can ride them. This seat is minimally scooped but still needs to go, for a proper flat one 💯
I own the regular Leoncino. It is a peach to ride. However, the seat triangle is not ideal for me. I will create a completely straight seat with a gel inlay. This will add about 5 cm and make it a bit harder (after 45 minutes, I have the impression sitting on the plastic). Mine was in the dealer's shop twice. The display did not work properly. No ABS, fuel and speed indication and tripmeter did not work. First time they repaired everything execpt for the fuel indicator, although I told them. After the second visit, all is good. Am very happy with the little lion, but not the dealer.
S Defiel Even Prince Harry puts his hands in his pockets. If it’s OK for him, it’s OK for Mr Darcy. And it’s bitterly cold. Glad you’re enjoying the videos apart from that 👊🏼
Stephen Fleming Yes nice too. Personally, for a bit of fun off road I’d go for a full blown Honda CRF250RX enduro bike, as I’m more familiar with racing bikes, and they grip so well off road.
The A.D.V. T.R.K. has foot peg position moved 2 " down 2" forward with break and shifter that would accommodate Dad and me much better . If I find someone needing racing pegs that wants to trade . . . uh . . . take the lower set and ride . Thanks guy's
Compared to what? Consider HP/L for engine output, curb weight of the bike, rider weight, aerodynamics, and gearing. Honda was making 100HP/L, naturally-aspirated, with their 450 twins back in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Modern 600cc 4cyl sport bikes make 200HP+/L, NA. Conversely, Triumph Scrambler 900 p-twin and most Harley v-twins make less than 100HP/L, and those bikes are typically over 500lb curb.
i know its 3y old video, but what do you think about comfort after few hours cruising ? is it suitable for 3 4h ride ? or should i go for cruiser bikes ?
As a returning rider I really like the look of this bike and quite fancy it as a first bike after 20 odd years. Do you think it would be suitable as a commuter and to go to rallies, festivals etc with my cruiser owning mates, (I know they do pannier frames) if I put a slightly smaller rear sprocket on to help with the high revs at motorway speeds.
My ideal bike would be a cruiser/retro combo so maybe in a year or two when I've got a few miles under my belt and the new Truimph Speedmaster has a few more used examples about, as I think the Royal Enfield Interceptor cruiser after all this wait might not be as good as hoped for
A bike this size can be manageable for a sturdy noob if the riding is not technical or race pace. I'm 5'8"/200lb/30" inseam and started riding dirt/sand/mud on DR650s that weigh 365lb+ curb weight.
Two different bike genres with different uses. Although this is a trail version the Leoncino is more towards road, laid back straight body position rides. The RC 390 is built for speed as a racer.
I spend most of the year in the northern Thai city of Chiang Rai. I want a bike to supplement the city scooter. There is a Benelli dealer in the city centre. The 17'' wheel version of this interests me.
1990 It’s not really a big guys bike tbh (but what is!). It’s really a road bike with enough suspension for unmade roads, so if that’s your usual terrain, then it would be fine.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I love the look of the Himalayan and was also looking at the fantic rx 250, herald brat 250 and kurz 250 but decided I need something with a bit more juice since it'll be used on the road 99% of the time ( i live in the south they've taken almost all of our green lanes away) was thinking of this or the caballero 500 if I can stretch the budget lol . Also have you seen the herald brute 500 ?Designed and made in the uk supposedly.
@@wfnicdao nope. Assembly in the Philippines only for the Ph market. Benelli assembles in the country or region they want to sell to lessen import costs. India version is assembled in India, Australia in Australia, etc. You get thr drift.
Seat height too darn tall for 5' 6" rider. Should've kept it at 30" :-) o t t , beautiful machine to play with and have fun riding country roads enjoying God's sceneries.I haven't seen a Binelli on the road here in the USA.
I'm 5'8"/30" inseam. I ride most 400cc+ dualsports just fine. Honda XR650L is too tall for me, but most others are manageable. I put the left foot down. The right foot brakes.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I saw a short video where its being ridden on what looks like mountain bike trails, but nothing I wouldn't ride my CBR 300 on. I was hoping it was going to be more comparable to the RE Himallaya which is great on trails but not so much on the road. Thanks for the reply.
@@dictater2 lol, dude you mean the RE Himalayan? Thats an adventure (ish) bike. Totally different bike category. It is like comparing a camry to a pickup truck. The Leoncino is mostly a road bike. Laid back ride, straight body position.
I dunno, as someone who has converted 3 different “street only” bikes into dual sports I think this bike has a lot of potential! with the right tires and a few low cost mods I bet I could do quite well off road on this! I simply cannot force myself to be attracted to dirt bikes and feel silly riding them on the street. This seems much more what I’m looking for!
Why not the bike itself? It's a scrambler. Try Triumph, Ducati, Fantic, Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Royal Enfield. Honda may be coming out with a CL500 soon.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan strange.I bought mine in Italy 🇮🇹 as I am Italian and mine has 45 kg of tourque at 6000 rpm. The 35 kw of max power are at 8500 rpm in the Italian version.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan must be like that. In any case there is a first peak of torque at 4500 with mine too, you can really feel it. Then until 6000 a very slight loss and then at 6000 I can feel the max torque. After 8000 she dies very quickly. Take care 👋
This is NOT a cafe-style bike. It's a scrambler. Cafe bikes use clip-ons and street tires. Scramblers are street bikes that are built to be able to also ride off-pavement. The Leoncino has cast wheels, street tires, and no skid. The Leoncino Trail has spoked wheels, a skid, more travel/clearance than most street standards, and dualsport tires. The former is a street standard that can be "cafe-styled" with clip-on bars, rearset pegs and foot-levers, and a windscreen. The latter can easily fit knobbies and take a rip down a beach A lot of scramblers also have higher exhausts than the street bikes they are typically based on. Compare the Triumph Scrambler, Bonneville, and Thruxton...or the Honda CB450 and CL450.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan But the strange thing is that motorcycles over 250 cc are forbidden and Only certain people with so expensive price can ride this vehicle. Sorry about my English
@@MrDarcy-OlMan because many of rider haven't certificate and they do not observe safety issues so There is no necessary infrastructure for over 250cc motorcycle
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I'm looking forward to the KTM 390 Adventure (I know it's made in India, but their previous bikes made there seem to be fine). I like the Honda adventure lineup as well. Can't go wrong with Honda. And I like the Triumph 900 (Triumph as a company is great but their bikes can be costly). So seems there's a fine balance between CHEAP and overpriced.
Vess Good choices! The Honda Adventure Sport Africa Twin is nice, and it’s the only bike with a proper seat (not scooped), which is a massive factor actually
So what's your problem with stuff made in China? All apple products are made in China, Rolls Royce have a factory in China, Rolex & Omega are made in China. It has a comprehensive warranty cover so what's there to worry about? It's a Global economy these days, products are manufactured wherever labour rates are most favourable, that's why Triumphs are made in Thailand. Take your blinkers off Vess
@@rodgeskell4218 Rolex and Omega are made in China? What drug are you on? Maybe some minor/simpler parts are made in China and imported to Switzerland, but the watches are definitely swiss made.
I like the bike but at 6'1 which is normal height for a male I look like a gliding gorilla humping a foot ball down the street on some of these things...
6'1" is considerably tall in most countries. Even in Holland, it's above average. Try a Triumph Scrambler 1200, a Ducati Desert Sled, the Leoncino 800, or a Husky Svartpilen. If you prefer the 500 Leoncino Trail, you could try a lifted suspension, taller seat, lowered pegs, pivoting bar-risers, and taller bars. Many people customize their moto ergonomics.
I've got the onroad version. I've done almost 15000 kms on it without any problems. I simply love it.
finally some chanell with honest reviews not like some where all bikes are excellent in everything
michal s Thanks Michal 👊🏼 Please spread the word! 👍
im more interested in your guys' jackets to be honest. actual fire
I held out for the 800cc and bought today. Love it.
Enjoy it
Nice little bike, I'm looking forward to seeing the leoncino 800 this year.
Bloody hell, I’m gonna have that background beat in my head for the next week 🤣
Love the video!
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
This is actually a great way of doing a review of an urban commuter! First time watching a video from your channel and I won my subscription! :) I find it super useful to have the opinion of a young rider like me and also more experienced rider. Thanks lads, great job!
I just recently purchased a 2022 edition and I love it.
Nice to see a no-frills down-to-earth YT review channel.
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@@MrDarcy-OlMan
Just because you've put "Top Gear" and "cringy stupidity" on the same sentence you've got a new sub...
νικος γιώργος ahh great! Thank you. 💯
Great review. I’ve got the road going version and really enjoy riding it, I’m 5ft 10inch so fit the bike perfectly.
Excellent! It’s a sweet engine and better suited to road use than trail
Honestly I'm just glad to hear somebody who knows how the letter 'C' works in Italian. Props for saying LeonCHINO and not some jersey-italian travesty.
We is educated 👍🏼
Dude this is so cool review, greetings from turkey. Im going to buy it!
Samed Yalçın Thank you! We hope you love it!
I am 36 now and i decided to start riding bikes.. i must say for starters its a absolutly brilliant and forgiving. Im very happy and thanks for the review guys ....
Great! Yes it's exactly as you say!
Being an owner of the street version of the leoncino I have have to say I've found it great as my first 'big' bike. Power delivery is nice and smooth and being about 5ft11 I find the riding position comfortable. I have commuted on it, normally using the lanes and it is brilliant. It also sounds much better without that huge cat box which is just for sound deadening. The parts backup unfortunately is appalling, took months to get a small part even with the shop calling the importers pretty much every week to find out where the part was
Will Stubbs Thats great! I think the engine is much more suited to road riding really. Shame about the parts delivery. Don’t forget to subscribe if you haven’t already 👊🏼
I'd throw a skid, minimalist handguards, and legal knobs on one of these. They look pretty good in person too. At 5'8"/30" inseam, it seems to fit me well. 'Much lighter than the Triumph Scrambler 900. About similar weight and power as my DR650s.
It sounds great like an inline 3/4, you wouldn't think it's a two cylinder motor.
Ne0c225 Yes it’s got a really nice tone 👊🏼
Ive only seen them in the showroom but it seemed quite a tall bike. The trick with the rear mudguard would be to add a thick piece of rubber to keep gunk off the radiator.
Another great video guys 👍
Jo Jo Thanks for your comments! Much appreciated
Nice review chaps, very well presented
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Thanks for another great review 👍
I think that this reviewed bike is especially interesting for younger people, aged 18-20 years. Not too much power, light, nimble.
I like the look / the pattern of the seat, reminds me of bikes of the 70s and 80s.
There is only one problem for the younger people: The "small lion" is not really cheap; here in germany you have to pay approx 6,5 K € for it.
And it is definetely not suitable for small people with short legs
Michi Schalusenbach Thanks my friend! We loved this bike and it’s certainly spot on for the young rider, with the style and easy power. Youngsters with a bit of cash!
I'm 5'8"/30" inseam. The Trail is plenty short for me.
Put the left foot down. Get off the bike if you have to roll it backwards uphill on gravel.
I like that review and also bike looks very good, thank you 🙏
Thank you 💯
A rerun of the very first of your videos I saw. I wouldn't say no to one secondhand. Getting a bit tired of my 390 Duke.
Glad you dropped the distracting background music. Like the flight jacket, Ol' Man.
Nice review as always except you spend to much time referring to how it will be off road when i think everyone knows it has zero off road pretentions and only a trail bike in style (the front mudguard and tyres confirm this)... I like these and a great price too
Bear in mind this was quite a few years ago and we would see this in a different light now 👍🏼
thanks for your review, this Leoncino trail 500 is one of my choices. How is compare with RE Interceptor 650.
Thanks buddy.
The Interceptor is 3 times better! 👍🏼
Great looking bike great value. And as always great review.
Thanks! 👍 Yes we liked it. A nice bike for the road, with a bit of off-road ability too.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan i have a Benelli tnt899 last of the Benelli bikes made in Italy. İ wish you can test ride this raw beast. No abs no modes no tc. Pure power.
hellride Cool! Sound great 👊🏼
I own the sports version, and can agree with only 50% at best (beside specs)
Isallintor What do you agree/disagree with? It would be nice to hear your thoughts 👍
Another good review guys thanks 🛵
Surprised they allow the emblem on the front mud after all they did outlawed the pedestrian slicer years ago.
If it’s reliable it’s a decent little bike for the price I’d personally change out the front guard for a decent one but imho it’s a adventuriish style bike and not really a bike for green lane-ing
I’m 6’1” so a tad short for me in the seat to bar ratio
Thanks Lee! Good point about the mud guard. Yes it's really a road bike with limited green-laning ability (like many so called 'adventure bikes')
As you remarked, very short gearing. I recall a two stroke Suzuki T500 I had in 1975, which made about the same BHP but did 80 MPH at 5,000 RPM. Also, 360 degree parallel twins seem to be a dying breed nowadays, which makes this bike quite unusual.
i guessing it's because its the "trail" version and true but im not against it 270s just sound so much better.
Nice review & Nicers Jackets!!!✌🏾😬👍🏼👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I like it as just a dual road Scrambler, well built with good power. Going for about $10K AUD.
10k ouch they're 5k here in the uk on the road.
They're about $6500 USD.
Just discovered you guys by looking for a review on this bike. Thanks for your review. I sat on one in the shop a few days ago but I don't think the salesperson was really listening to what I needed. I am looking for a bike to go a bit off road here in Australia (I want to travel around the country) on quite a bit of normal roads but also take it on unmade outback roads like the Birdsville track which has gibbers on it. I have a feeling after your review that this is probably not the right bike. I am also looking at a GS650, V-Strom or similar. What would you recommend? Are these bikes ok on normal road too? Curious as to what you would recommend. Cheers.
Thanks hun! The Benelli is definitely more a road bike than off road. We don’t like‘adventure’ style bikes, especially off road; they are cumbersome and restrict movement. The Husqvarna Enduro 701 LR is our choice but it depends how tall you are because it’s quite high.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan You're welcome. I am 5"10 and need to keep the CCs under 650. That makes sense about cumbersome.
@@HerMotorcycleAdventures how about the Honda CRF450L or the new CRF300 Rally? That’s what we’d go for
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Thanks for your advice. Will definitely check them out. 👍
Nice review guys! I own a transalp 650 for 12 years now, I'm looking an this leoncino, I don't know why? Maybe I'm getting old and I like more classic style bikes, or maybe it's just the fact that I don't do many long trips anymore due to family responsibility and lack of time. It seems a little bit small to me but I haven't had the chance to go for a test ride... Would you go for it, leaving the transalp 650?
Thanks bro. Worth a testride id say. We don’t know much about the Transalp tbh
I like this bike and I think it has a better engine then the new CB500X … I recon you could prolly fit the TRK502 exhaust onto it (with some pipe work) and make it lighter and more dirt worthy … id also jack it up an inch or two with a suspension upgrade … and that lump in the seat needs to go … plus make a tail tidy to give it a better aesthetic length on the back and lose 2 or 3 kilos by dropping that rego bar on its back wheel.
saturated fat Really good points my friend! Adventure bikes have even worse seats; I don’t know how anyone can ride them. This seat is minimally scooped but still needs to go, for a proper flat one 💯
Love seeing their older videos when they didn’t realize that people went to see the bike not the person talking
That’s good. Please don’t watch the latest ones. 👍🏼
I own the regular Leoncino. It is a peach to ride. However, the seat triangle is not ideal for me. I will create a completely straight seat with a gel inlay. This will add about 5 cm and make it a bit harder (after 45 minutes, I have the impression sitting on the plastic).
Mine was in the dealer's shop twice. The display did not work properly. No ABS, fuel and speed indication and tripmeter did not work. First time they repaired everything execpt for the fuel indicator, although I told them. After the second visit, all is good. Am very happy with the little lion, but not the dealer.
OK good idea! Glad it’s all ok now! 👍🏼💯
I very much hope so. Never thought the silly electronics could cause so much trouble. There was a time I wished for a carburator...
@@SandraOrtmann1976 🤞🤞
You could relocate the footpegs, change the seat shape, install pivoting bar-risers, and try different bars.
@@RKmndo In rhe meantime, I sold the bike. Partly because I was not happy with the quality and lost trust.
Bike is awesome 👏🏻 😎 exhaust is too good 👍
There goes the lad stuffing his hands in his pockets again. Well, he's young. Another good vid. thx
S Defiel Even Prince Harry puts his hands in his pockets. If it’s OK for him, it’s OK for Mr Darcy. And it’s bitterly cold. Glad you’re enjoying the videos apart from that 👊🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan LOL ... okay, if Prince Harry can do it then I'll let Mr. Darcy slide ... but my dad would still have something to say about it. ;)
S Defiel Lol - you sound like my uncle! He’s very traditional. 👊🏼
Good review, but I think I would prefer the Honda CB500X, a bit more room on it although £500 more.
Stephen Fleming Yes nice too. Personally, for a bit of fun off road I’d go for a full blown Honda CRF250RX enduro bike, as I’m more familiar with racing bikes, and they grip so well off road.
Interesting so I wounder if Harley will sneak this model in with the X500 line up?
Love the yoof with the baseball cap on backwards. Great review though.
We’re hip 😎
The A.D.V. T.R.K. has foot peg position moved 2 " down 2" forward with break and shifter that would accommodate Dad and me much better . If I find someone needing racing pegs that wants to trade . . . uh . . . take the lower set and ride . Thanks guy's
Ok interesting. Thanks bud
Good interesting review well put together. Please invest in a muffler for your microphone to cut out wind noise.
properjob we do have a muffler. Unfortunately the winds were 70mph on this day so nothing could cut that out. Unpredictable weather of the uk!
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Thanks for answering. Sorry for getting that wrong.
properjob no worries! Glad you enjoyed the video. Hopefully we can get some out soon but the lockdown is a bit of a dilemma.
Nice review.. according to some reviewers this bike pulls like it's bigger than 500cc.. do u agree?
Thanks Buddy! I suppose more than some yes 👍🏼
Compared to what?
Consider HP/L for engine output, curb weight of the bike, rider weight, aerodynamics, and gearing.
Honda was making 100HP/L, naturally-aspirated, with their 450 twins back in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Modern 600cc 4cyl sport bikes make 200HP+/L, NA.
Conversely, Triumph Scrambler 900 p-twin and most Harley v-twins make less than 100HP/L, and those bikes are typically over 500lb curb.
Good review ...
Simon Thanks Simon 👊🏼
My pleasure .
i know its 3y old video, but what do you think about comfort after few hours cruising ? is it suitable for 3 4h ride ? or should i go for cruiser bikes ?
I would not call it a long term in the saddle bike. For longer rides a cruiser would be better 👍🏼
Is the tyre width different from regular leoncino or still 120 section front and 160 section rear
Not sure. Can you find their website ?
As a returning rider I really like the look of this bike and quite fancy it as a first bike after 20 odd years. Do you think it would be suitable as a commuter and to go to rallies, festivals etc with my cruiser owning mates, (I know they do pannier frames) if I put a slightly smaller rear sprocket on to help with the high revs at motorway speeds.
Yes I think so. Don't you fancy a cruiser?
My ideal bike would be a cruiser/retro combo so maybe in a year or two when I've got a few miles under my belt and the new Truimph Speedmaster has a few more used examples about, as I think the Royal Enfield Interceptor cruiser after all this wait might not be as good as hoped for
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I also don't think a cruiser would be the best commuter
@@MrDarcy-OlMan fancy doing a review on the 502C, could be the best of both worlds, for me anyway😆
You should be flying a B17 with that look....
Bigirish Yeti I left it round the back!
Is this bike a bit too large & heavy for occasional off-road, especially for beginner? Thank you
Really depends on your height. We found it OK. If you’re planning on mud and grass, definitely get some nobbly tyres
A bike this size can be manageable for a sturdy noob if the riding is not technical or race pace. I'm 5'8"/200lb/30" inseam and started riding dirt/sand/mud on DR650s that weigh 365lb+ curb weight.
Is it good for tall riders?
It’s not massive. 6’2” or less really
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I am 5.11 don't should be ok I hope
Spot on 👍🏼
Excellent 👌🏻 video
what about ktm duke 390? can we compare them?
We haven’t ridden the 390
Two different bike genres with different uses. Although this is a trail version the Leoncino is more towards road, laid back straight body position rides. The RC 390 is built for speed as a racer.
I spend most of the year in the northern Thai city of Chiang Rai. I want a bike to supplement the city scooter. There is a Benelli dealer in the city centre. The 17'' wheel version of this interests me.
1990 Sounds interesting! 👍
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Thailand certainly is. So you'd recommend a Leoncino? I am a pretty big bloke but not as big as the strapping Ol'Man.
1990 It’s not really a big guys bike tbh (but what is!). It’s really a road bike with enough suspension for unmade roads, so if that’s your usual terrain, then it would be fine.
it's a bit of a shame about the suspension travel was considering selling my mt07 for one to ba able to take down some boats.
What about a Royal Enfield Himalayan? We’re reviewing one right now; amazing on the trails!
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I love the look of the Himalayan and was also looking at the fantic rx 250, herald brat 250 and kurz 250 but decided I need something with a bit more juice since it'll be used on the road 99% of the time ( i live in the south they've taken almost all of our green lanes away)
was thinking of this or the caballero 500 if I can stretch the budget lol .
Also have you seen the herald brute 500 ?Designed and made in the uk supposedly.
sorry not the brat the water cooled bullit hero.
how tall are you guys? im 180cm do u think i would look good on it?
We're 6'2"
I was thinking the same thing. Over 6 foot is too tall for that bike.
I'm only 5'7'' so would probably be ok on this bike, plus under 11 stone.
@@1960ARC They don't look too tall at all. I know your comment is old but I had to reply
Is this a 360 degree crank?
Yep, it is.
@@tonysmcneill Where is that posted, or a link?
@@d.4tay549 I can confirm that it is.
Is this motorcycle made in China or Italy？
China I believe.
designed in italy, parts made in china, assembled in philippines
Chinese owned as well, but they also make parts for Harley Davidson and others so there's that
@@wfnicdao nope. Assembly in the Philippines only for the Ph market. Benelli assembles in the country or region they want to sell to lessen import costs. India version is assembled in India, Australia in Australia, etc. You get thr drift.
Seat height too darn tall for 5' 6" rider. Should've kept it at 30" :-) o t t , beautiful machine to play with and have fun riding country roads enjoying God's sceneries.I haven't seen a Binelli on the road here in the USA.
Yes that’s a shame 👍🏼👍🏼
They are starting to sell them through a distributor this year.
Seeing some in Indiana now.
I'm 5'8"/30" inseam. I ride most 400cc+ dualsports just fine. Honda XR650L is too tall for me, but most others are manageable.
I put the left foot down. The right foot brakes.
I wish to hell someone would review this bike on trails, since its called a 500 trail!
We did ride it on the trail in this review. It’s a road bike 95% not really suited to trail riding
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I saw a short video where its being ridden on what looks like mountain bike trails, but nothing I wouldn't ride my CBR 300 on. I was hoping it was going to be more comparable to the RE Himallaya which is great on trails but not so much on the road. Thanks for the reply.
@@dictater2 lol, dude you mean the RE Himalayan? Thats an adventure (ish) bike. Totally different bike category. It is like comparing a camry to a pickup truck. The Leoncino is mostly a road bike. Laid back ride, straight body position.
I dunno, as someone who has converted 3 different “street only” bikes into dual sports I think this bike has a lot of potential! with the right tires and a few low cost mods I bet I could do quite well off road on this! I simply cannot force myself to be attracted to dirt bikes and feel silly riding them on the street. This seems much more what I’m looking for!
In my opinion the trail version is more intresting than street version, 19” front weel is a very good choice for a offroad ride! 😎👍🔥
The beat 🔥
jonel sembrano 👊🏼
If my 125 can do 100kmh this thing will do it easily
to be fair speed doesnt scale with hp, id guess this tops out at 100ish because of its aerodynamics, my mt07 has 70ish hp and just barley hits 130.
100KPH is about 62MPH.
Top out at 170_180ks,videos of top speeds on line,lively too.
how about braking especially on asphalt?
Mertcan Öztürk Yes the braking is very good.
Anyone can recommend a bike with similliar looks?
Maybe Honda CB500X
Ducati Scrambler Desert sled. It is expensive compared this but looks better.
@@xanderFoxHound Ducati Scrambler 400.
Fantic Caballero...
Why not the bike itself?
It's a scrambler. Try Triumph, Ducati, Fantic, Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Royal Enfield.
Honda may be coming out with a CL500 soon.
Max torque is at 6000 not 4500 rpm mate,
Look again bro! 4500 👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan strange.I bought mine in Italy 🇮🇹 as I am Italian and mine has 45 kg of tourque at 6000 rpm. The 35 kw of max power are at 8500 rpm in the Italian version.
Yes that’s odd. Perhaps different ecu etc in the uk 👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan must be like that. In any case there is a first peak of torque at 4500 with mine too, you can really feel it. Then until 6000 a very slight loss and then at 6000 I can feel the max torque. After 8000 she dies very quickly. Take care 👋
This is a "cafe" style bike, for off road trips get a TRK 502X....
the trk is so ugly in comparison though.
This is NOT a cafe-style bike. It's a scrambler. Cafe bikes use clip-ons and street tires. Scramblers are street bikes that are built to be able to also ride off-pavement.
The Leoncino has cast wheels, street tires, and no skid. The Leoncino Trail has spoked wheels, a skid, more travel/clearance than most street standards, and dualsport tires. The former is a street standard that can be "cafe-styled" with clip-on bars, rearset pegs and foot-levers, and a windscreen. The latter can easily fit knobbies and take a rip down a beach
A lot of scramblers also have higher exhausts than the street bikes they are typically based on. Compare the Triumph Scrambler, Bonneville, and Thruxton...or the Honda CB450 and CL450.
This motor recently come to iran.but in my country every foreigner motorcycles so expensive 😑😑😑😑
Meysam Soli ok that’s good. Shame they are so expensive. Does Iran manufacture any motorcycles?
@@MrDarcy-OlMan they are assembly some unknown Chinese motorcycles and some indian like bajaj pulsar and TVS Apache.
@@MrDarcy-OlMan But the strange thing is that motorcycles over 250 cc are forbidden and Only certain people with so expensive price can ride this vehicle. Sorry about my English
Meysam Soli ok that’s interesting. I wonder why only 250?
@@MrDarcy-OlMan because many of rider haven't certificate and they do not observe safety issues so There is no necessary infrastructure for over 250cc motorcycle
almost same weight as my 900
Crickey!
The problem is that it's made in and owned by a Chinese company. If that' wasn't the case it'd be on my short list.
Vess What are your top 3?
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I'm looking forward to the KTM 390 Adventure (I know it's made in India, but their previous bikes made there seem to be fine).
I like the Honda adventure lineup as well. Can't go wrong with Honda.
And I like the Triumph 900 (Triumph as a company is great but their bikes can be costly).
So seems there's a fine balance between CHEAP and overpriced.
Vess Good choices! The Honda Adventure Sport Africa Twin is nice, and it’s the only bike with a proper seat (not scooped), which is a massive factor actually
So what's your problem with stuff made in China? All apple products are made in China, Rolls Royce have a factory in China, Rolex & Omega are made in China. It has a comprehensive warranty cover so what's there to worry about? It's a Global economy these days, products are manufactured wherever labour rates are most favourable, that's why Triumphs are made in Thailand. Take your blinkers off Vess
@@rodgeskell4218 Rolex and Omega are made in China? What drug are you on? Maybe some minor/simpler parts are made in China and imported to Switzerland, but the watches are definitely swiss made.
I like the bike but at 6'1 which is normal height for a male I look like a gliding gorilla humping a foot ball down the street on some of these things...
Yea there are a lot of small bikes out there!
You get extra points for painting an interesting picture.
6'1" is considerably tall in most countries. Even in Holland, it's above average.
Try a Triumph Scrambler 1200, a Ducati Desert Sled, the Leoncino 800, or a Husky Svartpilen.
If you prefer the 500 Leoncino Trail, you could try a lifted suspension, taller seat, lowered pegs, pivoting bar-risers, and taller bars. Many people customize their moto ergonomics.
I'm 6'2 and i touch on my toes, Seat height Is the same and my dad's BMW 1200gs
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