Hey, big fan of FF5 here. I was just wondering what you meant at 5:12. I honestly can't think of too many boss fights that require specific Jobs. There are fights that are easier with different jobs, but it's not like in FF3 where you NEED to be this specific one or you can't win. BTW love that 12 is so high.
Seriously, I mostly never grind in any FF game except to get gear (If I need to buy it) You must do something wrong, do you REALLY fight THE MAJORITY of all battles you encounter or do you do like the noobs and run most of the time?
The fact u put 13 so low is upsetting because its the only one id choose to play and only one i like because the others sre either too boring or copies with better graphics and diff characters
@@de4dsoul7 To be fair, you don't have much room to talk about "upsetting" opinions when you imply that you think FF13 is _the_ best Final Fantasy game. Talk about hot take
A compelling story and characters are of course important for an rpg. But what's even more important to me is the gameplay. Because in the end, it's a game, so your are going to play it. The other FF games might have worked for me as a novell or Anime. But not as a game. Especially the pixel era games are just boring me. To this day FF7 is the only game I thoroughly enjoyed and actually love. The only other FF game that ever got me excited and hyped was FFX but I couldn't afford it back then. it always looked very fun when my cousin played it though. Now that it's available on steam, it's time for me to try it. I know that FFX has a very good reputation and from what I read online about the gameplay, I think I will enjoy it a lot. Let's hope that it will live up to it's reputation.
@pandaman1331 Final Fantasy X has BY FAR the best combat system in the entire series. The sphere grid, the fully controllable summons, the only true turn based system, the huge freedom in character customization, you're gonna have an absolute blast.
It's my favorite video game ever. I don't think it's objectively the best Final Fantasy, that would be FFIX IMO, but it's probably second. It came out when I was 11 years old which was a very formative time for me. I could write a whole paragraph about what it means to me and I have done so in the past in other comments, but in short FFVI is very special to me due to the memories I have associated with it as well as it being a great game.
@acidwizard6528 it's so damn good! I'm late when it comes to ff series but I've played a good half of them. I plan on playing 9. I downloaded all the mods for it on pc, but I'm just waiting a bit longer to see if we'll see a remaster/remake of it before I jump in
The more time I spend with games in this series, the more difficult it becomes to disagree with anyone's rankings, because I feel like all the games have so much to offer. There may be some divisive mechanics or story moments, but I couldn't call a single one of these games bad or not worth playing. Also, having your custom characters in FF 1 and 3 named after your fellow RPG TH-cam creators was a wonderfully charming touch :3
This doesn't really seem fair. He seems like a guy that played and loved FF7 when he was younger, and then decided to revisit the entire franchise when he was older in a much different context. Of course he wouldn't just be in love with all of them just because!? He seems to be approaching it from a genuine position, and like it or not, unless you grew up playing most of these when you were a kid and at the time they were novel and fresh, of course they are vastly outdated and a bit more on the boring end of things now. This is just how time works.
This channel really is just an algo-chaser. I'm not sure why he even bothered if he was just going to cheat the whole time, acting like it was an obligation
@myyt943 as someone from that exact position, I found plenty of enjoyment in the older pixel games. Dude likes like 3 of the 20 plus ff games. It's not a series for him
Dumb take. Sorry his opinions didn’t mesh with the status quo. I don’t like 6 either much, and I love VIII, XII and IX. VII is my first, so nostalgia hits me hard there. That’s fine. But nowadays there’s an expected order, a “canon” of greats. Some, imo, that are heralded as “the best” are only so in light of their history, but don’t hold up well today. Others do more so.
This could sound weird but I really liked FF XIII, as my first entry in the series. Currently I have more experience with JRPGs but I'll always remember the moment when I played XIII. FF could be a franchise where the first game you ever play is your most favorite.
Honestly XIII being below XV is a damn joke. I'm willing to respect other's opinions, but the fact that dude roasted XIII's combat without pointing out that XV's combat is just button mashing that gets boring after two hours is crazy. Tho tbf while it wasn't my first FF, XIII was my first 3D FF so it may have blown my mind in that respect. My family was poor growing up so my first console was a Super Nintendo that was basically a hand-me-down from my dad and I didn't get another until GameCube generation (which didn't have any FF except Crystal Chronicles). So I played IV, VI, and then XIII lol 🤣 At this point I probs wouldn't rank XIII in my personal top 5 FF games but I would still put it in the top 10 (probs spot 7-8ish) and its OST is my third favorite for sure, only topped by 6 and 7
I been seeing a pattern for years of people who like FF13 always following up with how it was their first FF game, now thats fine but what I don't like are the ones who say "I don't understand why people hate it so much". Well of course you don't understand the hate if it was your first game in the series. For me coming off of FFXII that had tons of exploration, party customization lots of sidequest and hunts to do early on in the game, FFXIII just had me wondering when the game was gonna open up and stop holding my hand for the first 25-30 hours. With that said when I replayed XIII recently PC and now I know what to expect from it I did enjoy it more than the first time through. I really enjoyed Xlll-2 and LR alot more though.
@@ChrisMS0815 honestly it wasn't my first and I still loved it. X is super linear too and everyone likes that game. XIII had really fun and deep combat too tbh. Conversely, I've tried XII twice and can't get into it at all so to each their own I suppose
Honestly FFXV starting is one of the best openings with that song. I loved the game the moment i started the demon and it slowly taking a darker turn with each chapter made me love the opening more. Honestly after consuming all side media it is prolly one of the best lore i have ever seen
People rag on ff15 too much, I personally loved nearly everything about the game and my only real complaint is how the story is told through too many different places: watching a movie, then an anime, and then playing dlc to get the full picture of whats going on is annoying but imo worth it, I love the story and characters of ff15
@@jacob3761my major complaint was how the game was set up as this open world road trip between 4 friends, and then devolves into a very VERY linear game once you hit a certain point of the story. Like if you just go and mainline the main missions that game is VERY short feeling because there’s not exploration really after the Leviathan fight, everything is pretty straightforward, at least how I remember, maybe I just did the missions too fast
Thank you bro. Sorry to all the spergs that the opening didn't have big monsters and guns and explosions. It does the perfect job setting up the main thematic element of the game, incredibly well done and artistic
Lol, mad respect for you sticking to your guns, GS. Great rank list. All valid points and decent arguments. 4 and 6 were MY introductions to the series on the snes, so I have rose-colored glasses permanently on for them.
Started with FF1 when it first came out and played all US versions up to X. Never have time to play the newer FF games. Can't go wrong with any FF game. Such an amazing series.
This is quite a bold list my friend. To see IV not make into the top 5 is sacrilegious to most, as it usually part of the Big 5, along with VI, VII, IX, & X. I can definitely see why you went with *that* as your 1# though. IX will always be my favorite, it's like the perfect 10 to me.
I find it humbling that both he and myself rank 8 decently higher than 5. That's not a dig at 5. And I get 8 nit being for everyone. But like he, I identify with Squall and i loved the world of 8. And I think that 8 is a very strong polar opposite of 5 in ways, thus the dynamic of ppl liking one versus the other is interesting
1-6 will just keep failing behind the rest except 13 and 15 in terms of technology. Until a proper remake. its just not fun to play in that graphic manner nowadays.
Why? Because they are old 2D titles? I mean I can respect wanting bigger meatier games in modern tech(I dream about a complete modern remake of ff2) but I don't see anything wrong with the old style still being appealing.
I think it can be hard to appreciate the earlier games outside of the place in time. Like many things, they were unbelievably good at the time. but the art and technology has learned from those achievements and have improved upon them and moved on. Not just graphics, but gameplay and story (which was also limited by technology). It's a testament to their quality that the still "can hold their own" !!30!! years later (essentially forever in video game time) FFIV will ALWAYS be my favorite, it was the first game that I played that was an interactive story - for me it was a complete paradigm shift. Characters that have motivations beyond jump on the bad guy and go to the right....
I can say with confidence FFVII has held up well. I didn't play it until around 2011 and it was a profound experience even then. Truly one of the greatest games of all time.
I'm basically good on every game placement except for FF4 but that is definitely because it is and was very special to me growing up. In my case 4 in place of XII I guess. Strong video, well stated and emboldened with solid reasoning and thought. Thanks TGS!
I respect that which also means you know which game is good and which game is not good. I bet you would rank your games much better then this youtuber.
Anyone that hasn’t played Final Fantasy Dimensions definitely should. It’s like Final Fantasy 5 but with a much improved job system. Great fun for a mobile release. Easily better than 1 through 5. Don’t play Dimensions 2. They fucked it up.
100% agree with your thoughts on FFXV. You summed up everything I disliked about the game: barren open world, missing content like from what we saw in the trailers, multimedia, and the incomplete feeling. I don't agree with many of your rankings otherwise but this is still a good and appreciated list.
🧢🧢🧢 FF15 still good game people don't realise making games is very difficult and modern gamers expect to much should appreciate even more mediocre games.
This is how a ranking should be done. You cant teleport back in time and play the game when it first came out. If you play a game now you have to compare it to now. Any older game that can hold a higher spot on someone's list is a testament to it's quality.
I love your list! Every Final Fantasy list is so personal and it was nice to hear the reasons why you ranked them the way you did. I want to play a few more before I make a top 10 myself!!!
Finally finding someone that loved VIII is so refreshing. I feel like I never hear anything good about it, but it was one of my favs. Under her control is a banger when you get to Deling City. @@TheGamingShelf
They really push the limit of the PS2 hardware with FFXII. I remember back then how I was mindblowned by seeing all the different NPC running in the "big" Rabanastre city. Also the soundtrack is so beautiful. 😁
Of the ones I played my ranking is: S tier: VIII, X A tier: V, VII C tier: VI, IX, XII D tier: III, IV (That's right, no B tier. I either love it or don't particularly care for it.)
I kind of don’t like the implication that the older fans only like the pixel era FFs due to nostalgia - without also acknowledging that you perhaps rate the early PS games more highly due to your own nostalgia. I think the 2D era / 3D era preference is more of a personality difference than anything to do with age or quality
Exactly why ff7 is so beloved. I played 7 after many other FFS and it's just another FF to me. Obviously it was the first easily accessible chapter on ps1 so many love it because it was the first one they have played.
@@notme8152 that notion is total BS imo. The reason you always see FF7 at the top has nothing to do with nostalgia. FFVII had the absolute best and most memorable cast of characters and their stories were well-crafted. We value lore, characters and world building the most, and if anything, the people who chuck it all to nostalgia are the same people who value graphics over everything else.
Such an excellent video. I always find it refreshing when someone shares a list or ranking for favorite games in a series or console that's unapologetically true their feelings and tastes, even if it might go against the broader public opinion. I feel similar to you about your FFXV sentiments, yet FFXIII is among my favorites in the series. It's just so fun to see/hear you candidly share your thoughts throughout this video and how the ranking is so unique to you. I played FFXII: The Zodiac Age earlier this year (first time playing XII for me) and loved it. I completely agree with you, the ability to speed up time, especially when grinding levels, is an absolute game changer. Enhanced my enjoyment of that game immensely. Fantastic video, Taylor, thanks for sharing!!
Fair list. As someone who started with 7 and missed the pixel era, I can appreciate 4-6 but they are harder to get into and 1-3 just feel too outdated for me. Glad to see 8 getting some love. Despite its flaws there’s a lot to like with it and if you understand the draw/junction system and choose to play it without stat maxing, the game is pretty replayable as you can balance your own difficulty. I also love the aesthetics and character growth. I would only rank 12 a little lower as the mid-end game doesn’t hold up imo. I love the early game but when I finally did a full playthrough last year I had to push myself through it towards the end. I love the art style but the disappointing second half story and gameplay wise would stop me going back to it.
I'm 36 and i also didn't grow up with the pixel Final Fantasys. Final Fantasy 7 was also my first Final Fantasy and my first JRPG, so here is my top 14: 1 - FF 8 (my favorite video game of all time) 2 - Final Fantasy 7 3 - Final Fantasy 9 The top are my favorite games ever 4 - Final Fantasy 10 (this is in my top 10 games of all time) 5 - Final Fantasy 6 6 - Final Fantasy 12 Zodiac Age 7 - Final Fantasy 16 8 - Final Fantasy 5 9 - Final Fantasy 4 10 - Final Fantasy 15 11 - Final Fantasy 3 12 - Final Fantasy 13 - Final Fantasy 13 14 - Final Fantasy 2
I agree with your comments on FFXII. What I like about it is the World building, and if you understand that the plot is about Bash, Balthier and Ash, with Vaan being just the tag along PoV carácter, it becomes more enjoyable. I know it's a personal list but for me, FFXVI is much higher.
if you really want to play FF12 in a whole new way i suggest buying steam pc version The zodiac Age. From there get Nexus and Vortex game mods. You can custom your set up , Dude i done that and FF12 feels li9ke a brand new game in terms of how i play it. New Outfits, new facial make overs..So many mods to choose from that wil make you want to paly for hours non stop..lol
My rankings: A Tier: 6, 9, 10, B Tier: 4, 5, 7, C Tier: 2, 8, X-2, 12 (zodiac age) D Tier: 1, 3, 13, 15 I haven't played 16 but I expect that to be in the lower tiers since it's not even an RPG. 1 and 3 rank low because the characters are just blank slates. Really can't go wrong with any game in A or B and honestly I have fun with the C tier games as well if I'm in the right mindset.
This list is a certified OG's rankings. LOL, though 7 can be arguably tier A and ff1 can be a little higher, but nonetheless, I won't disagree on this list. ff6 is the most important ff in the series "this is what you call RPG", I can say 6 is the goat in ff series. in ff9 they turn back the clock. ff10 is somehow modern but still it has a classic RPG ambiance in the game. Your tier A and B is actually my top 6 ff, in order, 6, 9 10, 7, 5 and 4. The ranking on this video perhaps came from a millennial kid, who most likely starts to play their first ff at ff7 or up lol.
I just recently played through Final Fantasy IV and I have to completely disagree with you, there were always enough hints about where to go next. And if you ever got stuck, the residents of the last town or castle you were in always gave you enough information to find your way back. I actually didn't even have to look at a guide or anything like that during my entire playthrough. And that's what I usually have to do with games from that era. I think what you mean is that in today's era you no longer have the patience to figure out where you need to go and don't feel like memorizing the world. However, that's the only FF I've played through so far, so I can't say much about the placement itself.
I'm curious about what parts of FFV gave you trouble. I feel like other than the soul cannon just having too much HP haste kinda just breaks the game wide open by itself, along with many other job combinations I kinda just stumbled into.
I played it a few months back so my memory is a little rusty, but there were some that needed specific abilities and I remember having to rework my entire party multiple times or else the fights were basically impossible.
@@TheGamingShelf I encounter the problem only on FFIII (hence being my most disliked entry), on V as long you have a white or blue mage to keep yourself healed you should have no problems. Maybe you can give it another go in the future.
Gotta agree on the FFVII being number 1. Although, I would have final fantasy XV as my number 2. I see why you don't like it, but it has my favourite character in it, that being Prompto
The beginning of Final Fantasy XV , when “Stand by me” starts to play, that shit was sick🔥 i enjoyed the pushing of the vehicle 😂 I love the “Americana” vibes. Shit gave me the chills.
Well, you sure didn't rank every mainline Final Fantasy if you didn't rank the MMOs. I don't know why that's such a difficult concept for so many TH-camrs in 2023.
While I do not agree with your list, I appreciate your objective point of view coming from someone younger than me. You made your points well. My first RPG ever was FFIV (2 on SNES) so it’s understandable that IV & VI rate considerably higher on my list than yours. Cheers my friend. Keep on grinding.
1. FF X 10/10 (No other FF comes close IMO). 2. FF VII 9/10 3. FF IX 8.8/10 4. FF IV 8 8.6/10 5. FF VIII(I love the world map and the Gardens) 8.1/10 6. FF XII 8/10 7. FF VI 7.5/10 8. FF V 7.3/10 9. FF XV 6.2/10 10. FF I 6/10 11. FF III 5/10 12. FF II 4.5/10 13. FF XIII 1/10 Still haven't played FFXVI(waiting for the PC port)
Im still trying to go through the whole series myself! My ranking based on the ones that i have played: 1) IX 2) VII 3) VIII 4) I 5) X 6) XIII 7) XV 8) XII 9) XIV (still going through ARR) 10) XI
After beating FF16 yesterday, here’s my list: FF6>FF16>FF9, FF12>FF15>FF7>FFX>FF4>FF8>FF5>FF13>FF3>FF1>FF2. Some notes: - FF8 was my first game in the series to play, but FF5 was the first I completed. - Played all pixel era games on my PSOne, but 3, I finished only on the NDS - I absolutely love the lore and the outstanding soundtrack of FF15 and I find Noctis very shakespearean.
@myyt943 apparently it is, if the dude running a JRPG channel can't even figure out FF4. Imagine running a first-person shooter gaming channel, and you can't figure out OG Doom without all cheats and a guide. It's embarrassing and comes off as disingenuous. Dude only liked FF7 and Persona, he's as casual as it gets. But hey, ranking and top 10 videos are a free algorithm bump, so who cares about integrity, yeah?
I can see where the earlier games were difficult to see where you were supposed to go. But 4? 4 and its narrative always pushed you in the proper direction
So we differ quite a bit in our ranking but gosh do you know how to put out a good video man. Great explanations for everything and so well put together.
Omg I love the jargon in 13. When I first played it as a teenager I was kind of blown away by how surreal it is, having played 7, 10, and 12. The fal’cie are such interesting beings, they’re like a cross between kami and demigods
Why exclude the MMOs? FF14 can be played as a solo RPG with AI party members , and it's story is better than most, if not all, of the mainline FF games. Just my opinion, of course :)
Ff8 has great world building and really smart noc dialogue. Also the little hints like seifer is a laguna fanboy because of his knight movie he made adds a lot of world building. Yea the combat mechanics are rough but that isn’t the entire game.
@@omensoffateIt's really funny that Lsguna hss created both the msin protagonist and the anti-villain, and even helped creating the main villain if you really thought about it.
FFVIII gets so much hate but I just wanna say that I love it very much. Poor translation makes Squall sound emo when the “whatever” term means something completely different in JP. He’s not emo, just a lot of pressure for a young man. GFs cause amnesia meaning everyone forgot they grew up together. Irvine’s garden banned the use of GFs meaning he remembered Edea which is why he was hesitant on shooting her. Seifer grew up watching the movies Laguna appeared in flashbacks which is where he got his battle stance from. The game goes a lot deeper than people give it credit for, yes the junction system is broken but that doesn’t take anything away from the overall experience of the game. I think the game is leaps and bounds better than being compared to a “trash bag”
Not including 14 is a travesty. Emet Selch is the best villain in an RPG ever. Kefka used to be my #1 baddie but ever since Shadowbringer Emet Selch is the GOAT
Nothing against their quality but they should not be mainline FF games. They should be spin off games, something like Final Fantasy Online. FF tactics wasn’t a mainline game, I never saw the reason why they did two MMO mainline games.
It actually hurts more seeing FFVI so low on the list than FFXVI... But it is your opinion, of course. Here is my list: 14. FFII 13. FFXIII 12. FFI 11. FFIII 10. FFXV 9. FFXII 8. FFVIII 7. FFIV 6. FFV 5. FFX 4. FFVII 3. FFXVI 2. FFVI 1. FFIX Here ya go. :)
FF13 is my favourite of the 4 FF i finished. The character models looks great (aside from their hands, ew), the voice acting is amazing, the lore and world building was great, each character has significant character development, i thought the story was super engaging and made me wonder how they would get out of their hopeless situation. The combat system could have been better but needing to change classes for your character multiple times mid battle to adapt to the flow of combat was so interesting for me. I really wish people would give more credit for everything the game accomplishes 😢 oh yeah and the music is great!
Meh. I just don't think the world-building is that great. It's got so many instances of going against the biggest rule in visual-medium storytelling: show don't tell. It machine guns a bunch of proper nouns in your face in the beginning that have absolutely no meaning until you waste time in the in-game encyclopedia to understand what all these words and acronyms mean and by then the scene where you needed to know all that information has come and gone. That and the stilted dialogue really dragged down the story for me, along with just how unlikable most of the main cast was for most of the story. Credit where credit is due, though: it is one of the best-looking games in the series and the graphics hold up remarkably well for a game that's over ten years old, plus the soundtrack is one of the best if not THE best in the entire FF series.
I like the sense of discovery that went with reading the encyclopedia and overall slowburn-ness of the story, unveiling certain elements or at least revealing a piece of the puzzle of all the terminology they throw at you, in a ways that was so amazingly measured imo. Thats why the game is so linear imo, because they wanted to have an absolute control on story and character exposition and for me it all meshed together so well. As for the characters i loved how they were all flawed and how they all had their journeys making them all less annoying (looking at you Hope). And even when they were annoying for me it all made sense because of their backstories. They felt 3dimensional, flaws and all. Lets just agree to disagree 😇
I really enjoyed XIII as well. I definitely don’t think it was their best story telling or worldbuilding, however, I had a blast with the new gameplay style and loved the characters. Oh and the soundtrack was superb. It’s definitely not my favorite, but I enjoyed and appreciated it more than most.
13-2 story was way better than 13 in my opinion. I really disliked 13. It had so much potential with the lore and world. It felt like a lot was cut out of it.
Wow you have practically the same ranking as me. Including 7, 9 and 12 being the top 3, in that order. And in your other video, Rebirth is one of your top games of all time just like me. I will definitely trust what you have to say about JRPGs!
I truly remain astonished at the negativity that FFXIII gets even to this day. I think this is a prime example of why everyone should make up their own minds about games and also feel free to express it even if the majority don't agree. This was my first FF game and it will always remain a very fond memory. I played it a second time because I like it so much. In comparison I found FFVIII very frustrating as the combat system was not the best. I still think FFIX is the best but I was blown away by FF7 Remake and cannot wait for Rebirth.
I'm not sure why you're surprised. Disc 1 I thought was a tutorial, but then it continued to disc 2. Its so linear it's not even funny. If they didn't give it an FF title it would have been fine.
My personal ranking: 1. VI 2. IX 3. X 4. IV 5. VII 6. XII 7. III 8. V 9. I 10. VIII 11. II I haven't played XIII, XV or XVI, but none of them seems to interest me that much. I also haven't played the MMO's XI or XIV. Edit: Forgot X-2, haven't finished that one.
@@WritingGeekNL FF2j was filled with death! Josef, Minh, Ricard, it seemed the theme of the game was death. And if we’re talking games available in the West, General Leo’s death in FF6 was striking as well. FF7 was different because fans fell in love with Aerith, not just as a playable character, but a bright spot in a dismal world.
Seeing her death as a kid laughed cuz always found her annoying as hell and wondered why there wasnt any blood like at all. Was only sad i lost planet protector LB lol Remake Aerith however I absolutely adore and will be actually sad if and when they kill her off tho 💔
Funny, how you described FFVI, is how I felt with XII. I had to start 3 separate times and because of its combat, I found XII boring. Good on you standing your ground on XVI. Me, I LIKED XVI, but if you know how you feel, that's how YOU feel. I was expecting this to be a bombfield, but I honestly enjoyed this list. No, I didnt agree with all the placements, but I didnt expect someone's list to mirror mine and I came in open-minded. EDIT: oh, and I get you about VII. I went to the FFVII Remake Orchestra and I teared up hard during their performances. Yes, you are not alone.
This audience seems more of the opinion that FFXVI isn't a RPG, so that automatically makes it the worst Final Fantasy. It is a fairly dumb argument in my opinion. Final Fantasy has always favored action over its competition (Dragon Quest) and the only element that all games have in common is that it has something to do with crystals. I see people praise FFX, but forget to mention that game was the first to change the combat a lot since FFIV. It was made entirely turn-based. FFXVI doesn't allow you to customise as much in weapons and control party members. But besides that, it is as much a Final Fantasy RPG as other entries are. Though I can respect people putting it lower or in the middle by whatever reason. These are just opinions, of course.
I disagree on some but this is a great and well thought out list. The older FFs requires walkthroughs to fully enjoy, but getting all of the items and making as close to a perfect save is just fun thats entirely an experience of its own. I agree 110% that FF8's world is the perfect final fantasy, has european sceneries but mashes them up w other environs and is just massive and very creative. The highschool setting really brings out our fantasy of youth, the junction system is unique and rewarding, and while the whole levelling system is backwards, its still something u can work with given that you have the junction system and the card mod system and the amazing triple triad. Im over the moon for this game as i just finished FF16 and replaying FF8 with a pocketstation and cant believe how much fun this game is compared to others. FF13 for me is lower but 3rd from last is acceptable and objectively a good spot. I loved FF15 but after the 3rd playthrough, im just really seeing the duct tape they used to hold it together. The characrers and writing are very bad. The world is beautiful to an extent, but exploration and controls are just so janky, def agree w its place on the list. FF12 IS still the best modern FF game, like ff16, it has great dialogues and writing, but unlike ff16, it has REAL jrpg elements and using how bots work and turning it into a legitimate in game play system is fcking genius. FF6 is still my favorite FF game but it is objectively no longer the best. Recently replayed it and saw how short and how recycled most of the world is, but still has its charm and still love it to death, but agree is not as high as it should be on most list. I feel overall, most FF games have strenghts and should be the top game based on those strenghts, but really hard to compare agaisnt each as w over 60-100 playtimes, ur bound to fall in love w them for their own worlds and system, like how u cant pick favorite children.
thanks for the video! hope to see more videos more often ❤ Although my favorite FF game is IX(9), but I really enjoyed 8 and 13. So it's interesting to see how many opinions there are on the games (｡･ω･｡)ﾉ♡
Tbh for I would pick FF7 Remake and FF XV over XVI any day I know XV had some issues but the showcase of Noctis and his friends was one of the best close friends showcase
It's always interesting seeing others rankings. I didn't play the pixel games initially. I played most of 3 & 4 on the DS My first was FF VII, but loved FF8 so much more. I did like FF7R much more than the PS1 version. FF XIII I initially did not like and stopped playing it. I replayed it last year on the XSX and loved it. My goal this year is to go back and play the FF games that I haven't beat yet, which are most of them lol.
Didn't realize tactics wasn't part of the mainline series. It's far and away my favorite. Loved the characters and the job system. Combat was fun and I wish there was a game out there that could pull me in with all that. Working through the FF7 remake now.
I agree. Tactics is the best FF game ever. FF14 is amazing as well. I really like 12 as well. I think 13 and 15 are the only ones I’ve truly hated in the franchise that I’ve played. Some average ones and a lot of really good ones. Of course 4,6,7,8,9,10 are amazing. That’s a given though. But yeah tactics is the best and wish they would do another one
You shouldn't be so condescending saying anyone who likes ff4 and ff6 likes them because they grew up with them. They're objectively better games than ff8. You should let people know you're a channel for the under 30 or under 25 crowd.
Facts dude, I despise when people say you only like a certain game because of nostalgia. I like a lot of old games even though I didn’t grow up in that generation of gaming. So I have no nostalgia for games like 6 and 4. But 6 still remains my favorite game in the entire franchise and one of my favorite takes off all time
Yeah I gotta agree with you on this one. I didn't even play 6 for the first time until it was on GBA but even id rate it higher than 10, let alone 8. I probably would have put 8 farther down than OP did, and I played it the year after release. Oh well, everyone's allowed their wrong opinions I suppose 🤣
Within the first 3 minutes of watching I’d already guessed he’d have FF7 as No1 Sigh, such an overrated game, it’s by no means bad, but I’m absolutely convinced whenever someone says it’s their favourite game of the series, either they haven’t played the others, or aren’t very objective with how they’re basing decisions.
I just played through and beat Final Fantasy 6 for the first time also year and it’s my current favorite in the series. Also final fantasy 3 and 4 DS remakes are amazing as well! FF 5 is really fun early on. But I never stuck through it.
@SexyJay Yeah, Final Fantasy 6 is my favorite RPG, definitely. FF5 is really good, but you get so into upgrading your jobs, you lose track of the main story. At least I did. Plus, the end boss is insanely tough if you didn't max out the right jobs, and you won't know if it did or not until you get there. As a group, you can't beat 4, 5, and 6. Especially on gba with all the extra content. So many hours of fun.
I’m sad to see 13 so low. I loved the 13 triology. But on the other hand I’m glad to see 12 is so high ^^. I couldn’t get into the old 7 and 15. (And haven’t played 16)
I am on the same boat with FF6. I tried like 3 separate times to play it but I stopped after about 10 hours each time. I actually think FFIV on the DS is better because of the story.
I can't stand FF8 because of the junction system and the whole going to outer space motif killed it for me but I understand why people can like it. I enjoy FF12 just like you do. I also have FF5 and FF6 way higher on my list because I connected with the stories so much.
I think the only reason why FFV isn't higher on the list for me is the story. It has a DBZ fight between a Turtle and a Tree. I mean, I feel emotions... but not the right ones. Still in lower A-tier though. Just not higher.
It's cool to hear peoples opinions even if they differ from your own. Personally I would have 5 way higher and 7/8 way lower. I really love how replayable 5 is. For me it has the most fun battle system out of them all. Personally my biggest issue with FF7 is that I didn't care about almost any of the characters and thus the story. I have always kind been mystified why people love it and the characters so much. I am happy people can find such joy from the game though.
I think 7 was a lot of people’s first rpg, it certainly was for me, so the fact that we could connect to characters at all was wild. I think remake allowed those characters to be fully realized in such a beautiful way. To me how they’re represented in the remake is how I imagined they would be back in the day, but now I don’t have to imagine any more.
@@urbanasupernova562same here it easily has my favorite cast of characters in any game period but I suppose everyone is different and has their own opinion
I've played final fantasy iv in every version it's been published and never felt it was grindy. It's got its flaws but the grind was never one of them for me.
Nice list. For me, the top 3 would be FF6, FF7, and FF5. Like you say i grow up in that era so those game is more endearing than the other. Also i would put FF15 and FF12 lower than FF13.
Great list! With a few tweaks, your list would be similar to my own. I fully understand that you didn’t grow up with the Pixel Final Fantasies and that’s cool. Your logic for why you prefer some of the newer ones makes plenty of sense and sometimes we tend to look at video games with nostalgic glasses instead of full objectivity. So I enjoyed seeing this list and hearing your thoughts.
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Hey, big fan of FF5 here. I was just wondering what you meant at 5:12. I honestly can't think of too many boss fights that require specific Jobs. There are fights that are easier with different jobs, but it's not like in FF3 where you NEED to be this specific one or you can't win. BTW love that 12 is so high.
Terrible list
Seriously, I mostly never grind in any FF game except to get gear (If I need to buy it) You must do something wrong, do you REALLY fight THE MAJORITY of all battles you encounter or do you do like the noobs and run most of the time?
The fact u put 13 so low is upsetting because its the only one id choose to play and only one i like because the others sre either too boring or copies with better graphics and diff characters
@@de4dsoul7 To be fair, you don't have much room to talk about "upsetting" opinions when you imply that you think FF13 is _the_ best Final Fantasy game. Talk about hot take
Nothing will ever beat Final Fantasy X for me.
Most unique and interesting story I've ever seen in a JRPG.
To me it's the perfect game
Same but I keep trying to play X-2 and cant get into it fr sadly. One day I'll just watch all the cutscenes and cap off that i think.
yes x was the best, I never played it but watched my brother playI still listen to the sound track 'road to zanarkand' time to time
A compelling story and characters are of course important for an rpg. But what's even more important to me is the gameplay. Because in the end, it's a game, so your are going to play it. The other FF games might have worked for me as a novell or Anime. But not as a game. Especially the pixel era games are just boring me. To this day FF7 is the only game I thoroughly enjoyed and actually love. The only other FF game that ever got me excited and hyped was FFX but I couldn't afford it back then. it always looked very fun when my cousin played it though. Now that it's available on steam, it's time for me to try it. I know that FFX has a very good reputation and from what I read online about the gameplay, I think I will enjoy it a lot. Let's hope that it will live up to it's reputation.
@pandaman1331 Final Fantasy X has BY FAR the best combat system in the entire series. The sphere grid, the fully controllable summons, the only true turn based system, the huge freedom in character customization, you're gonna have an absolute blast.
I played ff6 for the first time 6 months ago, and I consider it one of the best, if not the best rpg I've ever played. It's flawless.
😂😂😂
It's my favorite video game ever. I don't think it's objectively the best Final Fantasy, that would be FFIX IMO, but it's probably second. It came out when I was 11 years old which was a very formative time for me. I could write a whole paragraph about what it means to me and I have done so in the past in other comments, but in short FFVI is very special to me due to the memories I have associated with it as well as it being a great game.
@acidwizard6528 it's so damn good! I'm late when it comes to ff series but I've played a good half of them. I plan on playing 9. I downloaded all the mods for it on pc, but I'm just waiting a bit longer to see if we'll see a remaster/remake of it before I jump in
@@kyuzairen5383 What game are you talking about?
@@acidwizard6528 16?
The more time I spend with games in this series, the more difficult it becomes to disagree with anyone's rankings, because I feel like all the games have so much to offer.
There may be some divisive mechanics or story moments, but I couldn't call a single one of these games bad or not worth playing.
Also, having your custom characters in FF 1 and 3 named after your fellow RPG TH-cam creators was a wonderfully charming touch :3
well said nuff said brother
When you reach the top quarter of your list and still go ' this game wasn't for me', maybe Final Fantasy isn't for you?
facts
This doesn't really seem fair. He seems like a guy that played and loved FF7 when he was younger, and then decided to revisit the entire franchise when he was older in a much different context. Of course he wouldn't just be in love with all of them just because!? He seems to be approaching it from a genuine position, and like it or not, unless you grew up playing most of these when you were a kid and at the time they were novel and fresh, of course they are vastly outdated and a bit more on the boring end of things now. This is just how time works.
This channel really is just an algo-chaser. I'm not sure why he even bothered if he was just going to cheat the whole time, acting like it was an obligation
@myyt943 as someone from that exact position, I found plenty of enjoyment in the older pixel games. Dude likes like 3 of the 20 plus ff games. It's not a series for him
Dumb take. Sorry his opinions didn’t mesh with the status quo. I don’t like 6 either much, and I love VIII, XII and IX. VII is my first, so nostalgia hits me hard there. That’s fine. But nowadays there’s an expected order, a “canon” of greats. Some, imo, that are heralded as “the best” are only so in light of their history, but don’t hold up well today. Others do more so.
This could sound weird but I really liked FF XIII, as my first entry in the series. Currently I have more experience with JRPGs but I'll always remember the moment when I played XIII.
FF could be a franchise where the first game you ever play is your most favorite.
Despite its flaws, FF13 is in my top 5.
Ff13 was my 2nd one and i still love it over 15, 4 and 7R. One of my top 10 games of all time
Honestly XIII being below XV is a damn joke. I'm willing to respect other's opinions, but the fact that dude roasted XIII's combat without pointing out that XV's combat is just button mashing that gets boring after two hours is crazy. Tho tbf while it wasn't my first FF, XIII was my first 3D FF so it may have blown my mind in that respect. My family was poor growing up so my first console was a Super Nintendo that was basically a hand-me-down from my dad and I didn't get another until GameCube generation (which didn't have any FF except Crystal Chronicles). So I played IV, VI, and then XIII lol 🤣 At this point I probs wouldn't rank XIII in my personal top 5 FF games but I would still put it in the top 10 (probs spot 7-8ish) and its OST is my third favorite for sure, only topped by 6 and 7
I been seeing a pattern for years of people who like FF13 always following up with how it was their first FF game, now thats fine but what I don't like are the ones who say "I don't understand why people hate it so much". Well of course you don't understand the hate if it was your first game in the series. For me coming off of FFXII that had tons of exploration, party customization lots of sidequest and hunts to do early on in the game, FFXIII just had me wondering when the game was gonna open up and stop holding my hand for the first 25-30 hours. With that said when I replayed XIII recently PC and now I know what to expect from it I did enjoy it more than the first time through. I really enjoyed Xlll-2 and LR alot more though.
@@ChrisMS0815 honestly it wasn't my first and I still loved it. X is super linear too and everyone likes that game. XIII had really fun and deep combat too tbh. Conversely, I've tried XII twice and can't get into it at all so to each their own I suppose
Honestly FFXV starting is one of the best openings with that song. I loved the game the moment i started the demon and it slowly taking a darker turn with each chapter made me love the opening more.
Honestly after consuming all side media it is prolly one of the best lore i have ever seen
People rag on ff15 too much, I personally loved nearly everything about the game and my only real complaint is how the story is told through too many different places: watching a movie, then an anime, and then playing dlc to get the full picture of whats going on is annoying but imo worth it, I love the story and characters of ff15
@@jacob3761my major complaint was how the game was set up as this open world road trip between 4 friends, and then devolves into a very VERY linear game once you hit a certain point of the story. Like if you just go and mainline the main missions that game is VERY short feeling because there’s not exploration really after the Leviathan fight, everything is pretty straightforward, at least how I remember, maybe I just did the missions too fast
Thank you bro. Sorry to all the spergs that the opening didn't have big monsters and guns and explosions. It does the perfect job setting up the main thematic element of the game, incredibly well done and artistic
It’s in my top 5 and had potential to be the best if they had a little more time with it IMO
YEEEESSS THAT OP IS AMAAAAZINGGG
Lol, mad respect for you sticking to your guns, GS. Great rank list. All valid points and decent arguments. 4 and 6 were MY introductions to the series on the snes, so I have rose-colored glasses permanently on for them.
Fantastic video, I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts and ratings. We have completely different rankings, but you justified each of yours well!
Thanks Xygor!
12 is so underrated. Loved that game
12 might be #1 for me.
Its overrated
Started with FF1 when it first came out and played all US versions up to X. Never have time to play the newer FF games. Can't go wrong with any FF game. Such an amazing series.
This is quite a bold list my friend. To see IV not make into the top 5 is sacrilegious to most, as it usually part of the Big 5, along with VI, VII, IX, & X. I can definitely see why you went with *that* as your 1# though. IX will always be my favorite, it's like the perfect 10 to me.
I find it humbling that both he and myself rank 8 decently higher than 5.
That's not a dig at 5. And I get 8 nit being for everyone. But like he, I identify with Squall and i loved the world of 8. And I think that 8 is a very strong polar opposite of 5 in ways, thus the dynamic of ppl liking one versus the other is interesting
1-6 will just keep failing behind the rest except 13 and 15 in terms of technology. Until a proper remake. its just not fun to play in that graphic manner nowadays.
Why? Because they are old 2D titles? I mean I can respect wanting bigger meatier games in modern tech(I dream about a complete modern remake of ff2) but I don't see anything wrong with the old style still being appealing.
I think it can be hard to appreciate the earlier games outside of the place in time. Like many things, they were unbelievably good at the time. but the art and technology has learned from those achievements and have improved upon them and moved on. Not just graphics, but gameplay and story (which was also limited by technology).
It's a testament to their quality that the still "can hold their own" !!30!! years later (essentially forever in video game time)
FFIV will ALWAYS be my favorite, it was the first game that I played that was an interactive story - for me it was a complete paradigm shift. Characters that have motivations beyond jump on the bad guy and go to the right....
I can say with confidence FFVII has held up well. I didn't play it until around 2011 and it was a profound experience even then. Truly one of the greatest games of all time.
I only started playing it a few months ago, and it still holds up!
It's still my favorite since the first playstation
Same, simply because the staging is freakin perfect
Unless graphics are super important to you, there is nothing about FF7 that isn't great in my opinion.
I finished the game for the first time recently as of 2024 and it was amazing
I'm basically good on every game placement except for FF4 but that is definitely because it is and was very special to me growing up. In my case 4 in place of XII I guess. Strong video, well stated and emboldened with solid reasoning and thought. Thanks TGS!
I respect that which also means you know which game is good and which game is not good. I bet you would rank your games much better then this youtuber.
Anyone that hasn’t played Final Fantasy Dimensions definitely should.
It’s like Final Fantasy 5 but with a much improved job system. Great fun for a mobile release. Easily better than 1 through 5.
Don’t play Dimensions 2. They fucked it up.
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100% agree with your thoughts on FFXV. You summed up everything I disliked about the game: barren open world, missing content like from what we saw in the trailers, multimedia, and the incomplete feeling. I don't agree with many of your rankings otherwise but this is still a good and appreciated list.
🧢🧢🧢 FF15 still good game people don't realise making games is very difficult and modern gamers expect to much should appreciate even more mediocre games.
This is how a ranking should be done. You cant teleport back in time and play the game when it first came out. If you play a game now you have to compare it to now. Any older game that can hold a higher spot on someone's list is a testament to it's quality.
Yep! And for me a lot of the pixel games just don’t hold up, hence them being lower.
I love your list! Every Final Fantasy list is so personal and it was nice to hear the reasons why you ranked them the way you did. I want to play a few more before I make a top 10 myself!!!
I like your view on your ranking. Everyone likes different entries. But props for IX being in the top three.
IX is iconic. Had to be top 3. The remake is gonna be insane.
Finally finding someone that loved VIII is so refreshing. I feel like I never hear anything good about it, but it was one of my favs. Under her control is a banger when you get to Deling City. @@TheGamingShelf
They really push the limit of the PS2 hardware with FFXII. I remember back then how I was mindblowned by seeing all the different NPC running in the "big" Rabanastre city. Also the soundtrack is so beautiful. 😁
Of the ones I played my ranking is:
S tier: VIII, X
A tier: V, VII
C tier: VI, IX, XII
D tier: III, IV
(That's right, no B tier. I either love it or don't particularly care for it.)
IV in D now that's a 1st lol
Someone that recommends a game like Noob calling FF6 boring, make it make sense.
I kind of don’t like the implication that the older fans only like the pixel era FFs due to nostalgia - without also acknowledging that you perhaps rate the early PS games more highly due to your own nostalgia. I think the 2D era / 3D era preference is more of a personality difference than anything to do with age or quality
Exactly why ff7 is so beloved. I played 7 after many other FFS and it's just another FF to me. Obviously it was the first easily accessible chapter on ps1 so many love it because it was the first one they have played.
@@notme8152 that notion is total BS imo. The reason you always see FF7 at the top has nothing to do with nostalgia.
FFVII had the absolute best and most memorable cast of characters and their stories were well-crafted. We value lore, characters and world building the most, and if anything, the people who chuck it all to nostalgia are the same people who value graphics over everything else.
Yeah i totally disagree with him on that point.
Such an excellent video. I always find it refreshing when someone shares a list or ranking for favorite games in a series or console that's unapologetically true their feelings and tastes, even if it might go against the broader public opinion. I feel similar to you about your FFXV sentiments, yet FFXIII is among my favorites in the series. It's just so fun to see/hear you candidly share your thoughts throughout this video and how the ranking is so unique to you.
I played FFXII: The Zodiac Age earlier this year (first time playing XII for me) and loved it. I completely agree with you, the ability to speed up time, especially when grinding levels, is an absolute game changer. Enhanced my enjoyment of that game immensely. Fantastic video, Taylor, thanks for sharing!!
Fair list. As someone who started with 7 and missed the pixel era, I can appreciate 4-6 but they are harder to get into and 1-3 just feel too outdated for me.
Glad to see 8 getting some love. Despite its flaws there’s a lot to like with it and if you understand the draw/junction system and choose to play it without stat maxing, the game is pretty replayable as you can balance your own difficulty. I also love the aesthetics and character growth.
I would only rank 12 a little lower as the mid-end game doesn’t hold up imo. I love the early game but when I finally did a full playthrough last year I had to push myself through it towards the end. I love the art style but the disappointing second half story and gameplay wise would stop me going back to it.
I really dont get why ffviii gets so much hated
it's really the skyward sword of final fantasy
I'm 36 and i also didn't grow up with the pixel Final Fantasys. Final Fantasy 7 was also my first Final Fantasy and my first JRPG, so here is my top 14:
1 - FF 8 (my favorite video game of all time)
2 - Final Fantasy 7
3 - Final Fantasy 9
The top are my favorite games ever
4 - Final Fantasy 10 (this is in my top 10 games of all time)
5 - Final Fantasy 6
6 - Final Fantasy 12 Zodiac Age
7 - Final Fantasy 16
8 - Final Fantasy 5
9 - Final Fantasy 4
10 - Final Fantasy 15
11 - Final Fantasy 3
12 - Final Fantasy
13 - Final Fantasy 13
14 - Final Fantasy 2
8’s my favorite and 15 is top 4/5 for me. My list probably isn’t very popular opinion lol
I have not played all of them yet but 8 is my favorite too
I agree with your comments on FFXII. What I like about it is the World building, and if you understand that the plot is about Bash, Balthier and Ash, with Vaan being just the tag along PoV carácter, it becomes more enjoyable.
I know it's a personal list but for me, FFXVI is much higher.
if you really want to play FF12 in a whole new way i suggest buying steam pc version The zodiac Age. From there get Nexus and Vortex game mods. You can custom your set up , Dude i done that and FF12 feels li9ke a brand new game in terms of how i play it. New Outfits, new facial make overs..So many mods to choose from that wil make you want to paly for hours non stop..lol
My rankings:
A Tier: 6, 9, 10,
B Tier: 4, 5, 7,
C Tier: 2, 8, X-2, 12 (zodiac age)
D Tier: 1, 3, 13, 15
I haven't played 16 but I expect that to be in the lower tiers since it's not even an RPG. 1 and 3 rank low because the characters are just blank slates. Really can't go wrong with any game in A or B and honestly I have fun with the C tier games as well if I'm in the right mindset.
This list is a certified OG's rankings. LOL, though 7 can be arguably tier A and ff1 can be a little higher, but nonetheless, I won't disagree on this list. ff6 is the most important ff in the series "this is what you call RPG", I can say 6 is the goat in ff series. in ff9 they turn back the clock. ff10 is somehow modern but still it has a classic RPG ambiance in the game. Your tier A and B is actually my top 6 ff, in order, 6, 9 10, 7, 5 and 4. The ranking on this video perhaps came from a millennial kid, who most likely starts to play their first ff at ff7 or up lol.
Nostalgia merchant.
8 is too high
I just recently played through Final Fantasy IV and I have to completely disagree with you, there were always enough hints about where to go next. And if you ever got stuck, the residents of the last town or castle you were in always gave you enough information to find your way back. I actually didn't even have to look at a guide or anything like that during my entire playthrough. And that's what I usually have to do with games from that era. I think what you mean is that in today's era you no longer have the patience to figure out where you need to go and don't feel like memorizing the world.
However, that's the only FF I've played through so far, so I can't say much about the placement itself.
I'm curious about what parts of FFV gave you trouble. I feel like other than the soul cannon just having too much HP haste kinda just breaks the game wide open by itself, along with many other job combinations I kinda just stumbled into.
I played it a few months back so my memory is a little rusty, but there were some that needed specific abilities and I remember having to rework my entire party multiple times or else the fights were basically impossible.
@@TheGamingShelf I encounter the problem only on FFIII (hence being my most disliked entry), on V as long you have a white or blue mage to keep yourself healed you should have no problems. Maybe you can give it another go in the future.
Gotta agree on the FFVII being number 1. Although, I would have final fantasy XV as my number 2. I see why you don't like it, but it has my favourite character in it, that being Prompto
The beginning of Final Fantasy XV , when “Stand by me” starts to play, that shit was sick🔥 i enjoyed the pushing of the vehicle 😂
I love the “Americana” vibes. Shit gave me the chills.
Florence Welch could sing the phone book and make it sound like an angel was belting it out
Come on 13 is not that bad I mean 13 years later and the game looks beautiful .
To me it is 😎
Well, you sure didn't rank every mainline Final Fantasy if you didn't rank the MMOs. I don't know why that's such a difficult concept for so many TH-camrs in 2023.
well not everyone cares about MMOs, not even if they have "final fantasy" in the title.
@@ladansemakabre Not everyone cares about Final Fantasy II for example, but that still doesn't mean it's not Final Fantasy.
@@Taikomo fair point
Just started the original ff7 as my first final fantasy game/jrpg
It’s fascinating to see pretty much anyone who didn’t click with FFXVI have FFVII as their favorite.
That is interesting! There’s probably a through line with the series that this makes sense somehow.
@@TheGamingShelf it's interesting to see people fall into camps for groups of games!
While I do not agree with your list, I appreciate your objective point of view coming from someone younger than me. You made your points well.
My first RPG ever was FFIV (2 on SNES) so it’s understandable that IV & VI rate considerably higher on my list than yours.
Cheers my friend. Keep on grinding.
I don't hate FFVIII but I never expected it to be this high
Maybe 6th but I 100% agree with 5th.
1. FF X 10/10 (No other FF comes close IMO).
2. FF VII 9/10
3. FF IX 8.8/10
4. FF IV 8 8.6/10
5. FF VIII(I love the world map and the Gardens) 8.1/10
6. FF XII 8/10
7. FF VI 7.5/10
8. FF V 7.3/10
9. FF XV 6.2/10
10. FF I 6/10
11. FF III 5/10
12. FF II 4.5/10
13. FF XIII 1/10
Still haven't played FFXVI(waiting for the PC port)
Im still trying to go through the whole series myself! My ranking based on the ones that i have played:
1) IX
2) VII
3) VIII
4) I
5) X
6) XIII
7) XV
8) XII
9) XIV (still going through ARR)
10) XI
MMO are not mainline games
@@southcoastinventors6583 Their names say otherwise
You should play VI
Absolutely goated
@@SiammeDarcthat's the one I'm most excited to get to! I've got all the pixel remasters on switch so it's only a matter of time!
Can't really get on board with VIII and IX, sorry.
After beating FF16 yesterday, here’s my list: FF6>FF16>FF9, FF12>FF15>FF7>FFX>FF4>FF8>FF5>FF13>FF3>FF1>FF2.
Some notes:
- FF8 was my first game in the series to play, but FF5 was the first I completed.
- Played all pixel era games on my PSOne, but 3, I finished only on the NDS
- I absolutely love the lore and the outstanding soundtrack of FF15 and I find Noctis very shakespearean.
16 being your second favourite completely nullifies your list lmao. It's definitely bottom 3 worst in the series and an overall joke of a video game
Love it my dude! Great content, I slightly disagree with 13 being below 5 but, Tomatoes, tomatoes. Lol.
Also, I strongly disagree with 16s place, but beauty of humans is we all have different tastes. So, respect.
16 is definitely second worst in the series with 15 being the worst. They're both a disgrace to the series
@@hotcoldman77damn that's intense
VII, VI, IX, XVI and X shape up my top 5.
Same including IV
How do you even have a JRPG gaming channel if you need guides, exp-cheats, and fast-forward to get through anything older than 2006? Actually sad.
Simple, not everyone enjoys too much grinding or too aimless of wandering. How old are you, and you still don't get this?.. Actually sad.
@@myyt943 Old enough to not need a super guide in Nintendo games. Imagine enjoying challenge, even a slight one. Actually sad.
@@taylorlowder8935 The fact that you think that is 'challenging' says more about you than i ever could.
@myyt943 apparently it is, if the dude running a JRPG channel can't even figure out FF4. Imagine running a first-person shooter gaming channel, and you can't figure out OG Doom without all cheats and a guide. It's embarrassing and comes off as disingenuous. Dude only liked FF7 and Persona, he's as casual as it gets. But hey, ranking and top 10 videos are a free algorithm bump, so who cares about integrity, yeah?
@@taylorlowder8935 Nothing wrong with using guides for old games.
I can see where the earlier games were difficult to see where you were supposed to go. But 4? 4 and its narrative always pushed you in the proper direction
I definitely disagree with u on 16 but glad to see 9 as high as it was that was my favorite.
Same here
So we differ quite a bit in our ranking but gosh do you know how to put out a good video man. Great explanations for everything and so well put together.
Omg I love the jargon in 13. When I first played it as a teenager I was kind of blown away by how surreal it is, having played 7, 10, and 12. The fal’cie are such interesting beings, they’re like a cross between kami and demigods
Why exclude the MMOs? FF14 can be played as a solo RPG with AI party members , and it's story is better than most, if not all, of the mainline FF games. Just my opinion, of course :)
I never played 11 and there’s no way I was gonna play through that whole thing just for this video lol. Same with 14.
My entire existence hurts seeing the 3 SNES games ranked lower than that trash bag FF8 😂😂😂 jk love ya Taylor!
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Ff8 has great world building and really smart noc dialogue. Also the little hints like seifer is a laguna fanboy because of his knight movie he made adds a lot of world building. Yea the combat mechanics are rough but that isn’t the entire game.
Indeed, i think it’s an age thing David. I agree with you but I’m +- your age , ( slightly older even )
Davidvinc? I know a TH-camr with the same name and awesome content 😊
@@omensoffateIt's really funny that Lsguna hss created both the msin protagonist and the anti-villain, and even helped creating the main villain if you really thought about it.
FFVIII gets so much hate but I just wanna say that I love it very much.
Poor translation makes Squall sound emo when the “whatever” term means something completely different in JP. He’s not emo, just a lot of pressure for a young man.
GFs cause amnesia meaning everyone forgot they grew up together. Irvine’s garden banned the use of GFs meaning he remembered Edea which is why he was hesitant on shooting her.
Seifer grew up watching the movies Laguna appeared in flashbacks which is where he got his battle stance from.
The game goes a lot deeper than people give it credit for, yes the junction system is broken but that doesn’t take anything away from the overall experience of the game.
I think the game is leaps and bounds better than being compared to a “trash bag”
Not including 14 is a travesty. Emet Selch is the best villain in an RPG ever. Kefka used to be my #1 baddie but ever since Shadowbringer Emet Selch is the GOAT
Nothing against their quality but they should not be mainline FF games. They should be spin off games, something like Final Fantasy Online. FF tactics wasn’t a mainline game, I never saw the reason why they did two MMO mainline games.
It actually hurts more seeing FFVI so low on the list than FFXVI...
But it is your opinion, of course. Here is my list:
14. FFII
13. FFXIII
12. FFI
11. FFIII
10. FFXV
9. FFXII
8. FFVIII
7. FFIV
6. FFV
5. FFX
4. FFVII
3. FFXVI
2. FFVI
1. FFIX
Here ya go. :)
FF13 is my favourite of the 4 FF i finished. The character models looks great (aside from their hands, ew), the voice acting is amazing, the lore and world building was great, each character has significant character development, i thought the story was super engaging and made me wonder how they would get out of their hopeless situation. The combat system could have been better but needing to change classes for your character multiple times mid battle to adapt to the flow of combat was so interesting for me. I really wish people would give more credit for everything the game accomplishes 😢 oh yeah and the music is great!
Meh. I just don't think the world-building is that great. It's got so many instances of going against the biggest rule in visual-medium storytelling: show don't tell. It machine guns a bunch of proper nouns in your face in the beginning that have absolutely no meaning until you waste time in the in-game encyclopedia to understand what all these words and acronyms mean and by then the scene where you needed to know all that information has come and gone. That and the stilted dialogue really dragged down the story for me, along with just how unlikable most of the main cast was for most of the story. Credit where credit is due, though: it is one of the best-looking games in the series and the graphics hold up remarkably well for a game that's over ten years old, plus the soundtrack is one of the best if not THE best in the entire FF series.
I like the sense of discovery that went with reading the encyclopedia and overall slowburn-ness of the story, unveiling certain elements or at least revealing a piece of the puzzle of all the terminology they throw at you, in a ways that was so amazingly measured imo. Thats why the game is so linear imo, because they wanted to have an absolute control on story and character exposition and for me it all meshed together so well. As for the characters i loved how they were all flawed and how they all had their journeys making them all less annoying (looking at you Hope). And even when they were annoying for me it all made sense because of their backstories. They felt 3dimensional, flaws and all. Lets just agree to disagree 😇
I really enjoyed XIII as well. I definitely don’t think it was their best story telling or worldbuilding, however, I had a blast with the new gameplay style and loved the characters. Oh and the soundtrack was superb. It’s definitely not my favorite, but I enjoyed and appreciated it more than most.
13-2 story was way better than 13 in my opinion. I really disliked 13. It had so much potential with the lore and world. It felt like a lot was cut out of it.
Wow you have practically the same ranking as me. Including 7, 9 and 12 being the top 3, in that order. And in your other video, Rebirth is one of your top games of all time just like me. I will definitely trust what you have to say about JRPGs!
I truly remain astonished at the negativity that FFXIII gets even to this day. I think this is a prime example of why everyone should make up their own minds about games and also feel free to express it even if the majority don't agree. This was my first FF game and it will always remain a very fond memory. I played it a second time because I like it so much. In comparison I found FFVIII very frustrating as the combat system was not the best. I still think FFIX is the best but I was blown away by FF7 Remake and cannot wait for Rebirth.
I'm not sure why you're surprised. Disc 1 I thought was a tutorial, but then it continued to disc 2. Its so linear it's not even funny. If they didn't give it an FF title it would have been fine.
My personal ranking:
1. VI
2. IX
3. X
4. IV
5. VII
6. XII
7. III
8. V
9. I
10. VIII
11. II
I haven't played XIII, XV or XVI, but none of them seems to interest me that much. I also haven't played the MMO's XI or XIV.
Edit: Forgot X-2, haven't finished that one.
Aerith’s death in FF7 is an iconic part of history, not just gaming. It’s hard to not get emotional over it!
Too bad FF7 made everyone look like they were made out of bowling pins.
I mean, FFV already had a genuine death of a party member...
But it didn't nearly have the same impact, because you were able to keep the progress.
@@WritingGeekNL FF2j was filled with death! Josef, Minh, Ricard, it seemed the theme of the game was death. And if we’re talking games available in the West, General Leo’s death in FF6 was striking as well. FF7 was different because fans fell in love with Aerith, not just as a playable character, but a bright spot in a dismal world.
Seeing her death as a kid laughed cuz always found her annoying as hell and wondered why there wasnt any blood like at all. Was only sad i lost planet protector LB lol
Remake Aerith however I absolutely adore and will be actually sad if and when they kill her off tho 💔
Funny, how you described FFVI, is how I felt with XII.
I had to start 3 separate times and because of its combat, I found XII boring.
Good on you standing your ground on XVI. Me, I LIKED XVI, but if you know how you feel, that's how YOU feel.
I was expecting this to be a bombfield, but I honestly enjoyed this list. No, I didnt agree with all the placements, but I didnt expect someone's list to mirror mine and I came in open-minded.
EDIT: oh, and I get you about VII. I went to the FFVII Remake Orchestra and I teared up hard during their performances. Yes, you are not alone.
Thank you! I appreciate that you can understand everyone’s gonna have a different opinion and that’s okay
My unpopular opinions include thinking 15 was garbage, 13 is overhated and 7 isn't the best.
1. 6
2. 10
3. 4
4. 7
5. 12
6. 16
7. 9
8. 8
9. 13
10. 5
11. 15
12. 3
13. 1
Last place: def FF2 😂
I was so happy to see XII in the top 3 I love it so much but I hardly ever see people talking about it😭😭😭
It’s so good! Especially the Zodiac Age version. It’s amazing.
Good stuff. Nice to see FF8 in its position. Underrated game. I subbed :)
I have only finished 1-10, but out of those, the top three for me are 7, 10, and 1. Good times! 😊
FF16 below FF8 is a very brave choice
I’m shocked more people aren’t upset!
This audience seems more of the opinion that FFXVI isn't a RPG, so that automatically makes it the worst Final Fantasy.
It is a fairly dumb argument in my opinion. Final Fantasy has always favored action over its competition (Dragon Quest) and the only element that all games have in common is that it has something to do with crystals.
I see people praise FFX, but forget to mention that game was the first to change the combat a lot since FFIV. It was made entirely turn-based.
FFXVI doesn't allow you to customise as much in weapons and control party members. But besides that, it is as much a Final Fantasy RPG as other entries are.
Though I can respect people putting it lower or in the middle by whatever reason. These are just opinions, of course.
I don't think that's that unpopular of an opinion. It's probably split.
Let’s be honest, XVI is not a FF anymore
I disagree on some but this is a great and well thought out list. The older FFs requires walkthroughs to fully enjoy, but getting all of the items and making as close to a perfect save is just fun thats entirely an experience of its own. I agree 110% that FF8's world is the perfect final fantasy, has european sceneries but mashes them up w other environs and is just massive and very creative. The highschool setting really brings out our fantasy of youth, the junction system is unique and rewarding, and while the whole levelling system is backwards, its still something u can work with given that you have the junction system and the card mod system and the amazing triple triad. Im over the moon for this game as i just finished FF16 and replaying FF8 with a pocketstation and cant believe how much fun this game is compared to others. FF13 for me is lower but 3rd from last is acceptable and objectively a good spot. I loved FF15 but after the 3rd playthrough, im just really seeing the duct tape they used to hold it together. The characrers and writing are very bad. The world is beautiful to an extent, but exploration and controls are just so janky, def agree w its place on the list. FF12 IS still the best modern FF game, like ff16, it has great dialogues and writing, but unlike ff16, it has REAL jrpg elements and using how bots work and turning it into a legitimate in game play system is fcking genius. FF6 is still my favorite FF game but it is objectively no longer the best. Recently replayed it and saw how short and how recycled most of the world is, but still has its charm and still love it to death, but agree is not as high as it should be on most list. I feel overall, most FF games have strenghts and should be the top game based on those strenghts, but really hard to compare agaisnt each as w over 60-100 playtimes, ur bound to fall in love w them for their own worlds and system, like how u cant pick favorite children.
thanks for the video! hope to see more videos more often ❤ Although my favorite FF game is IX(9), but I really enjoyed 8 and 13. So it's interesting to see how many opinions there are on the games
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Yes it shows how square enix made multiple meaningful games for different gamers!
agree but the commentary on lightning etc as a bonus was not needed
i would rank FFVI higher, but i can get behind this list..very good job pointing why you love what you love and dislike what you dont. Based list
Based comment 🫡
I have played FF 1 to 8. I will definitely try 9 and rest now.
9 is amazing! You'll love it.
@@TheGamingShelf Man I'm in love with FF7 now it's so mesmerizing 😭probably the best game ever
Oh hell yeah, nice ranking list dude!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You become my favourite youtuber ranking ff8 that high, i also love that love story and the game in general
Hey thank you! It gets so much undeserved hate.
Tbh for I would pick FF7 Remake and FF XV over XVI any day I know XV had some issues but the showcase of Noctis and his friends was one of the best close friends showcase
great video as always! looking forward to potentially more rankings of your favorite franchises!
While my list is very different from yours I appreciate the reasoning behind your placements. Fantastic video!
It's always interesting seeing others rankings. I didn't play the pixel games initially. I played most of 3 & 4 on the DS My first was FF VII, but loved FF8 so much more. I did like FF7R much more than the PS1 version. FF XIII I initially did not like and stopped playing it. I replayed it last year on the XSX and loved it. My goal this year is to go back and play the FF games that I haven't beat yet, which are most of them lol.
Totally agree that 7Remake was even better than the original
13 is underrated, it's my favorite by far. I feel like Tales Of Arise copied a lot of this game concepts.
13 is overhated.
@@xXMuseFan1996Xx 100%, if it was that bad, it wouldn't get a trilogy
@@Rafael-kr6zv Exactly.
Dude, I like your channel but your opinions on most of the 16 mainline games is just off 😅
I know, I’m off the rails lol
Didn't realize tactics wasn't part of the mainline series. It's far and away my favorite. Loved the characters and the job system. Combat was fun and I wish there was a game out there that could pull me in with all that. Working through the FF7 remake now.
I agree. Tactics is the best FF game ever. FF14 is amazing as well. I really like 12 as well. I think 13 and 15 are the only ones I’ve truly hated in the franchise that I’ve played. Some average ones and a lot of really good ones. Of course 4,6,7,8,9,10 are amazing. That’s a given though. But yeah tactics is the best and wish they would do another one
@@briang6994 Finally, another tactics enthusiast fan! I might have to try 14 out then!
You shouldn't be so condescending saying anyone who likes ff4 and ff6 likes them because they grew up with them. They're objectively better games than ff8. You should let people know you're a channel for the under 30 or under 25 crowd.
Facts dude, I despise when people say you only like a certain game because of nostalgia. I like a lot of old games even though I didn’t grow up in that generation of gaming. So I have no nostalgia for games like 6 and 4. But 6 still remains my favorite game in the entire franchise and one of my favorite takes off all time
Yeah I gotta agree with you on this one. I didn't even play 6 for the first time until it was on GBA but even id rate it higher than 10, let alone 8. I probably would have put 8 farther down than OP did, and I played it the year after release. Oh well, everyone's allowed their wrong opinions I suppose 🤣
Within the first 3 minutes of watching I’d already guessed he’d have FF7 as No1
Sigh, such an overrated game, it’s by no means bad, but I’m absolutely convinced whenever someone says it’s their favourite game of the series, either they haven’t played the others, or aren’t very objective with how they’re basing decisions.
I just played through and beat Final Fantasy 6 for the first time also year and it’s my current favorite in the series. Also final fantasy 3 and 4 DS remakes are amazing as well! FF 5 is really fun early on. But I never stuck through it.
@SexyJay Yeah, Final Fantasy 6 is my favorite RPG, definitely. FF5 is really good, but you get so into upgrading your jobs, you lose track of the main story. At least I did. Plus, the end boss is insanely tough if you didn't max out the right jobs, and you won't know if it did or not until you get there. As a group, you can't beat 4, 5, and 6. Especially on gba with all the extra content. So many hours of fun.
FF VII set the bar WAY too high for not only RPG’s but even for the final fantasy series itself. The game will forever be in a league of its own.
I love that VIII made the top 5. I understand why people don’t like it, but it’s such a good game. And triple triad!!!
It was mostly compared to 7. And it had more of a Romantic approach.
Hell yeah! Such a cool world and amazing music.
The music! Oh man! I played through on ps4 a couple years ago, and that music took me back to PS1 days.
I don't think it's aged too well...some things are just all over the place ...and I loved it when it came out
It’s hard to believe you think FF4 is grindy, it’s probably the easiest of all the FFs.
I’m sad to see 13 so low. I loved the 13 triology. But on the other hand I’m glad to see 12 is so high ^^. I couldn’t get into the old 7 and 15. (And haven’t played 16)
Love 13 as well, sad to see so many overlook it but at the same time i feel lucky being able to see its for the masterpiece that it is
I am on the same boat with FF6. I tried like 3 separate times to play it but I stopped after about 10 hours each time. I actually think FFIV on the DS is better because of the story.
I can't stand FF8 because of the junction system and the whole going to outer space motif killed it for me but I understand why people can like it. I enjoy FF12 just like you do. I also have FF5 and FF6 way higher on my list because I connected with the stories so much.
Fair enough! We all connect with games in different ways and that’s okay
I think the only reason why FFV isn't higher on the list for me is the story.
It has a DBZ fight between a Turtle and a Tree. I mean, I feel emotions... but not the right ones.
Still in lower A-tier though. Just not higher.
FF9 and FF7 my Favorite 2 in the Series and both are MasterPieces
yeah both of those in my top 3
7,9 and 10 for my top 3 :)
It's cool to hear peoples opinions even if they differ from your own. Personally I would have 5 way higher and 7/8 way lower.
I really love how replayable 5 is. For me it has the most fun battle system out of them all.
Personally my biggest issue with FF7 is that I didn't care about almost any of the characters and thus the story. I have always kind been mystified why people love it and the characters so much. I am happy people can find such joy from the game though.
I think 7 was a lot of people’s first rpg, it certainly was for me, so the fact that we could connect to characters at all was wild. I think remake allowed those characters to be fully realized in such a beautiful way. To me how they’re represented in the remake is how I imagined they would be back in the day, but now I don’t have to imagine any more.
That’s wild! I probably cared about the characters of VII more than nearly any video game ever 😆
@@urbanasupernova562same here it easily has my favorite cast of characters in any game period but I suppose everyone is different and has their own opinion
I've played final fantasy iv in every version it's been published and never felt it was grindy. It's got its flaws but the grind was never one of them for me.
Nice list. For me, the top 3 would be FF6, FF7, and FF5. Like you say i grow up in that era so those game is more endearing than the other. Also i would put FF15 and FF12 lower than FF13.
Final Fantasy VII is a goddamn work of art
12 better than 10 😂
Not in a zillion years is 12 better than 10 lol
FF16 is one of the best devil may cry games ever made. It’s just not a final fantasy.
Top three for me are X, VIII, and V.
Time stamps are a must for these
FF12 has no business being that high. but it's your list.
The zodiac age remaster totally changes that game. If it was OG 12 it’s probably be really low but the remaster makes it so much more playable
Great list! With a few tweaks, your list would be similar to my own. I fully understand that you didn’t grow up with the Pixel Final Fantasies and that’s cool. Your logic for why you prefer some of the newer ones makes plenty of sense and sometimes we tend to look at video games with nostalgic glasses instead of full objectivity. So I enjoyed seeing this list and hearing your thoughts.
Solid list imo. Your top 3 is the same as mine. But I’d def move 8 down a lot, and move 16 up slightly.
Yeah we definitely have different opinions.