Humble and honest. This is the side of TH-cam I like. It was informative. Heck, he even has guts enough to smoke on video.! While listening, and looking at the background, I half expected to hear a turkey gobble?
Cover crop is cheaper than any kind of tillage. It costs more in your case because you divided the cost of the tillage by two, which you should do same to the cost of cover crop/no till.
Greg, unlike you, most farmers don't consider creating better soil a return on their investment. Thanks for the video, and keep on being a better steward of the soil than conventional farmers.
Greg and Bud, I live in San Diego but hope to move out to the beauty of middle America in the next year, looking for a piece of heaven now. Please forgive me for what I do not know which is A LOT...I am in the process of trying to understand where, when, what and how to live and function on a piece of land and survive and hopefully thrive. Our so called plan is to purchase land, maybe with a house or build one, homestead and see if we can raise animals and crops for us and for small sale. I believe I shouldn't think much larger than 15-40 acres and that seems like a lot of land anyway to me. I'm doing my best to learn about no till and cover cropping to head toward richer soils and cash crops. Of coarse I know nothing about sending these to market or even really what I am going to do once I step foot on our own land for the first time. I originally started writing because the division of 2/acre still doesn't make since because no mechanical tillage went into the no till field. I'm just trying to follow. Thanks for reading and I hope this doesn't impose in the comments.This is the first time I have reached out to the farmers of Middle America, City boy with a pocket knife,Todd
Is it possible the roller doesnt work for you simply because it doesn't crimp? Where a crimper is designed more to actually terminate a crop. isn't that what you're attempting with the roller??
You are comparing apples to oranges (1 year of tillage to 2 years of no-till & cover crops) Can you do an equal comparison? Compare 2 years of tillage to 2 years of no-till & cover crops?
Delighted to find your channel and encourage you to keep after this until you can get completely no till while remaining profitable AND dealing with those events Mother Nature occasionally throws at producers. Fire flood drought hail insects and the like are perils producers face. Restoring soil and growing new soil is just wise as the population continues to grow.
Have you considered eliminating the ripping in favor of something that was less expensive? Maybe just discing? Not to poke holes in your argument, we just switched hard over to no-till ourselves and are liking the program thus far. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Something that may help the knowledge base is what process do you go through to decide what to plant for cover crops. Thanks!!!
I have to say I find you video very interesting, But I know in my ground no-till doesn't work at best its a 50/50 shot to grow a crop in no-till. I have tried it for 5 years and I had only one year I didn't have to replant the no-till ground this year was no exception . Go 5 miles north east of south and no-till works great every year but it don't work in our ground. I was surprised to see my Oliver Tractor disk and packer show up in your video ! LOL I wish no-till work for me like it does for you but it don't. I don't quite agree with your number on no-till vs worked but you gave me something to think about. Right now my focus has turned from no-till to dealing with Soybean Cyst Nematodes that I have in my beans and how to rotate the ground around to combat them. But you have given me something to think about. Bandit
Under tillage regiment, we're you not adding in synthetic fertilizer? Have you not had to reduce your chemical inputs any with cover crop? I thought that was its purpose (at least in part), particularly addition of legumes, to collect/retain chemistry.
I do not understand why you divide the cost per acre of tillage by 2, just because you plant half of your farm on till mode, you will also need to divide the cost of no till by 2. Seen your video, to me, it concludes that the cost per acre with tillage is $68.45 and with no till + cover crop is $33.22 with a difference of more than $35.00 per acre in favor of no till + cover. It will be that big difference if you do your test side by side only using your till land. Do remember you are talking per acre figures, not the practices of your particular farm.
I've already addressed this but here it is again: I did the mathematics that way so that the cost for each method was represented for the entire operation, not just for individual acres. Because I could pick one field that heavily favored the no-till and cover and just talk about that..... or I could pick a field that favored the tillage heavily and just talk about that. So the way I approached it was that for the YEAR I spent this much on this or that for the whole of the operation. Peace..
Have you added up your time? I am a beginning farmer and would like to know roughly what you have in it. More specifically how many hours of tillage, planting, spraying, harvesting, etc vs. hours to plant cash and cover, spraying, harvesting. My ground is an hour and a half away from where I live so the less time/trips it takes me the more time I can spend with my kids.
No. I don't track my man-hours. I'm a one man band, and so what I get paid is whatever is left in the end. The only thing I would learn from tracking my hours is how little per hour I get.................. Peace
It may not work for your operation with the roller right now sir and that's because maybe you're a little too far north and to get your corn crop off maybe your ride doesn't get all the way to the do State friedel SNAP before you have to get a seed in the ground and I understand that completely even Dave Brandt that I watch on here all the time he still uses herbicide to he's in your area
I divided the tillage cost by 2 because when I was tilling it was only on half of the acres farmed while the covers are on all acres farmed. So dividing the tillage cost per acre by two makes the total cost for the entire farm comparable.
I average the covers over all acres because the effects of the carries forward for multiple years and multiple crops. But that's just the way I do it..... What works for one farm doesn't always work for another.
Yes. I watch and read everything I can find from Dwayne. And I think that anyone trying cover crops and no-till should! I hope his successor at Dakota Lakes Research Farm continues the work that Dwayne has done.
I think Dwayne makes a good point when he says that some systems don't scale up and he's one of the only people that has done the research on rotations. Great information.I think you're doing a great job too. I like your videos.
Humble and honest.
This is the side of TH-cam I like. It was informative.
Heck, he even has guts enough to smoke on video.!
While listening, and looking at the background, I half expected to hear a turkey gobble?
Cover crop is cheaper than any kind of tillage. It costs more in your case because you divided the cost of the tillage by two, which you should do same to the cost of cover crop/no till.
Greg, unlike you, most farmers don't consider creating better soil a return on their investment. Thanks for the video, and keep on being a better steward of the soil than conventional farmers.
I learned lots from this video, thank you Greg
Greg and Bud, I live in San Diego but hope to move out to the beauty of middle America in the next year, looking for a piece of heaven now. Please forgive me for what I do not know which is A LOT...I am in the process of trying to understand where, when, what and how to live and function on a piece of land and survive and hopefully thrive. Our so called plan is to purchase land, maybe with a house or build one, homestead and see if we can raise animals and crops for us and for small sale. I believe I shouldn't think much larger than 15-40 acres and that seems like a lot of land anyway to me. I'm doing my best to learn about no till and cover cropping to head toward richer soils and cash crops. Of coarse I know nothing about sending these to market or even really what I am going to do once I step foot on our own land for the first time. I originally started writing because the division of 2/acre still doesn't make since because no mechanical tillage went into the no till field. I'm just trying to follow. Thanks for reading and I hope this doesn't impose in the comments.This is the first time I have reached out to the farmers of Middle America, City boy with a pocket knife,Todd
ANY and all thoughts about small farming in Garfield or Mayor county's in Oklahoma?
Is it possible the roller doesnt work for you simply because it doesn't crimp? Where a crimper is designed more to actually terminate a crop. isn't that what you're attempting with the roller??
If you stay on your regiment in 3 years you can start cutting back your fertilizer cost that's what I hear from the guys in your area
You are comparing apples to oranges (1 year of tillage to 2 years of no-till & cover crops) Can you do an equal comparison? Compare 2 years of tillage to 2 years of no-till & cover crops?
Delighted to find your channel and encourage you to keep after this until you can get completely no till while remaining profitable AND dealing with those events Mother Nature occasionally throws at producers. Fire flood drought hail insects and the like are perils producers face. Restoring soil and growing new soil is just wise as the population continues to grow.
Have you considered eliminating the ripping in favor of something that was less expensive? Maybe just discing? Not to poke holes in your argument, we just switched hard over to no-till ourselves and are liking the program thus far. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Something that may help the knowledge base is what process do you go through to decide what to plant for cover crops. Thanks!!!
I have to say I find you video very interesting, But I know in my ground no-till doesn't work at best its a 50/50 shot to grow a crop in no-till. I have tried it for 5 years and I had only one year I didn't have to replant the no-till ground this year was no exception . Go 5 miles north east of south and no-till works great every year but it don't work in our ground. I was surprised to see my Oliver Tractor disk and packer show up in your video ! LOL I wish no-till work for me like it does for you but it don't. I don't quite agree with your number on no-till vs worked but you gave me something to think about. Right now my focus has turned from no-till to dealing with Soybean Cyst Nematodes that I have in my beans and how to rotate the ground around to combat them. But you have given me something to think about. Bandit
Any adjustments in fertilizer on the notill
Under tillage regiment, we're you not adding in synthetic fertilizer? Have you not had to reduce your chemical inputs any with cover crop? I thought that was its purpose (at least in part), particularly addition of legumes, to collect/retain chemistry.
Do roll cover crop before rolling it or after
I do not understand why you divide the cost per acre of tillage by 2, just because you plant half of your farm on till mode, you will also need to divide the cost of no till by 2. Seen your video, to me, it concludes that the cost per acre with tillage is $68.45 and with no till + cover crop is $33.22 with a difference of more than $35.00 per acre in favor of no till + cover. It will be that big difference if you do your test side by side only using your till land. Do remember you are talking per acre figures, not the practices of your particular farm.
I've already addressed this but here it is again: I did the mathematics that way so that the cost for each method was represented for the entire operation, not just for individual acres. Because I could pick one field that heavily favored the no-till and cover and just talk about that..... or I could pick a field that favored the tillage heavily and just talk about that. So the way I approached it was that for the YEAR I spent this much on this or that for the whole of the operation.
Peace..
Have you added up your time? I am a beginning farmer and would like to know roughly what you have in it. More specifically how many hours of tillage, planting, spraying, harvesting, etc vs. hours to plant cash and cover, spraying, harvesting. My ground is an hour and a half away from where I live so the less time/trips it takes me the more time I can spend with my kids.
No. I don't track my man-hours. I'm a one man band, and so what I get paid is whatever is left in the end. The only thing I would learn from tracking my hours is how little per hour I get..................
Peace
Greg Campbell farms. great videos! Thank you
It may not work for your operation with the roller right now sir and that's because maybe you're a little too far north and to get your corn crop off maybe your ride doesn't get all the way to the do State friedel SNAP before you have to get a seed in the ground and I understand that completely even Dave Brandt that I watch on here all the time he still uses herbicide to he's in your area
What an overly complicated mess.
do you sell that hay?? or do you till it into the ground??
Lol He is no-till how would he till it into the ground?
I don't understand why you divide by 2 when you are figuring the costs on a per acre basis.
I divided the tillage cost by 2 because when I was tilling it was only on half of the acres farmed while the covers are on all acres farmed. So dividing the tillage cost per acre by two makes the total cost for the entire farm comparable.
I do mine for each crop type. Then total them together.
I average the covers over all acres because the effects of the carries forward for multiple years and multiple crops. But that's just the way I do it..... What works for one farm doesn't always work for another.
Yes. I watch and read everything I can find from Dwayne. And I think that anyone trying cover crops and no-till should! I hope his successor at Dakota Lakes Research Farm continues the work that Dwayne has done.
I think Dwayne makes a good point when he says that some systems don't scale up and he's one of the only people that has done the research on rotations. Great information.I think you're doing a great job too. I like your videos.
You dont need to plant a cover crop at all. You spray a burn and post emerge. What I do.
Bruce Behner if you aren’t growing soil you are killing your soil.
Bruce, what do you mean by 'spray a burn and post emerge'?