Miss these old things, spent many happy hours and years working on them. Only ever failed once, and it was an easy job to get assistance from the following 4CIG, and get everyone where they needed to go. Simple, nice old units. Loos that didn't open directly into passenger saloons, comfy seats, especially on the old Phase 1 CIGs, I can still recall going along with the window open, listening to those EE507s sing on a summer evening.Clunking old Westinghouse DH25 compressors, and the reassurring steady whirr of the MGs. Give me an old CEP, CIG, EPB, HAP, VEP any day. Not forgetting the Buffet units of course, or those old Southern Railway sets. Glad i'm retired. Never did get on with the power - hungry souless things that replaced them. Plastic Perambulators.
Travelled thousands of miles on these old slammers, so much more sense of space and fresh air than newer trains. The video brings it all back right up to the faded centre part of the seats.
Whoever you are thats uploaded this, THANK YOU so much. I loved these old trains, the sounds, the smells, even the weird corridor on one side where the enclosed rooms were. I even miss that pumping motor sound under the floor that used to be so noisy and went on for ages! I really do miss these trains, at full speed on a straight through service you could really feel the power!
Graham Pearson You can hear the DH25 on a lot of the old BREL electrics still in service today. The 315s (I think have them) and so do the 455s and 508s
Forgot to say, these were so reliable too. No 3rd rail heating strips needed, few breakdowns and no noisy air con system or electronic lady telling you everything. Very comfy for sleeping on, real sponge in the seats and a rhythm that could rock you to sleep in no time. Those really were the days.
I really miss these old units, must have travelled thousands of miles on them when i was younger, normally around East and West Sussex. I agree with the previous comment, nice comfy seats, especially if you were on one of the originals that had not been refitted. Quite a few times i missed my stop because i had fallen asleep on those comfy seats. I do not like the newer trains with noisy air con units making a noise, plus normally making it too cold, and of course the cramped and uncomfortable seating. I live in Devon these days, and dread the day when the 125's are finally retired, they too are very comfortable to ride on.
The Class 421 CIG electric multiple unit trains were a familiar sight in East Sussex, West Sussex and Hampshire for many years. They were used on the London Victoria to Brighton line and on the London Waterloo to Portsmouth services.
I remember travelling on these from Chatham down to Dover. If you pushed the Windows right down you could smell the lovely old damp earthy smell of the cliff tunnels as you traveled through them.
The Class 421 CIG electric multiple unit trains had the familiar sound of the Westinghouse DH25 air compressor on board. Air compressors found older types of electro pneumatic efficiency braked electric multiple unit trains could have been camshaft driven.
Well Chiltern did it with the 121's and they are still running. Also what is it with all these stupid requirements and schemes? Its making the UK railways bland and boring. I mean 'Equality act'?! that's the best one yet xD How about I make a scheme called "Tell the nanny health & safety and government suits to fuck off act"? :P
There are only two 121s in service. Thus it didn't cost them that much. For SWT to do that would cost millions. Also the 121s only have two months left.
I grew up on the chatham main line in the early 90s- and I'm probably one of a few in my generation that remember these things. I've travelled on them plenty of times on the Southwestern during the Southwest Trains era Never on the Southeastern .. such a shame- I'd have really liked to have seen the Kent countryside rushing past on one of these. The southwestern experience was a bit bland really... just miles of line on rattling rolling stock. Still I think the 375's are a good replacement far better than the 377's and don't get me started on the 450's ... fricking awful stock
why? the 450s are very reliable from what I've heard and much more efficient and safer than slam door stock. your attitude is demonstrative of a major problem with the UK railway community and that problem is that fact that allot you guys seem incapable of separating your personal feelings from the reality. its obvious that you have an emotional attachment to certain rolling stock and that's fine its ok to prefer a certain aesthetic over another but you must understand trains a form of public transportation first and foremost and you cannot deny the fact that slammers were old and outdated. as time moves on the network must remain an efficient way of transporting people and therefore its essential that we keep replacing old stock with newer more efficient stock that's more suited to modern day travel patterns. modern day trains like the desiro city units and Aventra's as well as the electrostars and desiros are far more suited to modern day needs and demands that slammers could ever have hoped to be.
@@cultivationape6946 that's ok, I did say the 375's were a good replacement. I don't like the 450's anda lot of people don't really like them; a lot of it is to do with the seating arrangement..and now apparently southwestern railway has shrank the first class section
The class 450s and 444s are decent, just a shame swr have removed the old seating and replaced it with uncomfortable firm leather seats. At least with older stock the seats were somewhat comfortable. It seems like train operators just like to make it more worse for passengers nowadays. No idea why.
Miss these old things, spent many happy hours and years working on them. Only ever failed once, and it was an easy job to get assistance from the following 4CIG, and get everyone where they needed to go. Simple, nice old units. Loos that didn't open directly into passenger saloons, comfy seats, especially on the old Phase 1 CIGs, I can still recall going along with the window open, listening to those EE507s sing on a summer evening.Clunking old Westinghouse DH25 compressors, and the reassurring steady whirr of the MGs. Give me an old CEP, CIG, EPB, HAP, VEP any day. Not forgetting the Buffet units of course, or those old Southern Railway sets. Glad i'm retired. Never did get on with the power - hungry souless things that replaced them. Plastic Perambulators.
Travelled thousands of miles on these old slammers, so much more sense of space and fresh air than newer trains. The video brings it all back right up to the faded centre part of the seats.
Whoever you are thats uploaded this, THANK YOU so much. I loved these old trains, the sounds, the smells, even the weird corridor on one side where the enclosed rooms were. I even miss that pumping motor sound under the floor that used to be so noisy and went on for ages!
I really do miss these trains, at full speed on a straight through service you could really feel the power!
Delta10666, the Westinghouse DH25 air compressor is one of the sounds you hear on board the Class 421 CIG electric multiple unit trains.
Graham Pearson You can hear the DH25 on a lot of the old BREL electrics still in service today. The 315s (I think have them) and so do the 455s and 508s
Thanks for posting this. The camera work may be shaky, but the sounds are so atmospheric and really bring the memories back.
God I miss these old girls!
Forgot to say, these were so reliable too. No 3rd rail heating strips needed, few breakdowns and no noisy air con system or electronic lady telling you everything. Very comfy for sleeping on, real sponge in the seats and a rhythm that could rock you to sleep in no time. Those really were the days.
I really miss these old units, must have travelled thousands of miles on them when i was younger, normally around East and West Sussex. I agree with the previous comment, nice comfy seats, especially if you were on one of the originals that had not been refitted. Quite a few times i missed my stop because i had fallen asleep on those comfy seats. I do not like the newer trains with noisy air con units making a noise, plus normally making it too cold, and of course the cramped and uncomfortable seating.
I live in Devon these days, and dread the day when the 125's are finally retired, they too are very comfortable to ride on.
The Class 421 CIG electric multiple unit trains were a familiar sight in East Sussex, West Sussex and Hampshire for many years. They were used on the London Victoria to Brighton line and on the London Waterloo to Portsmouth services.
remember going to primary school in these
Very lovely old train!
I hope it gets kept for heritage runs!
I remember travelling on these from Chatham down to Dover. If you pushed the Windows right down you could smell the lovely old damp earthy smell of the cliff tunnels as you traveled through them.
Is that my dad's car
I was on that train yesterday 1497 (Fresh Water)
unfortunately me where being pulled by diesels due to no third rail
Great vid. Shame its only a 3 car set. Always remember them as 4 car set
It's a unit ... an Electric Multiple Unit (EMU). Sets are loco hauled.
The Class 421 CIG electric multiple unit trains had the familiar sound of the Westinghouse DH25 air compressor on board. Air compressors found older types of electro pneumatic efficiency braked electric multiple unit trains could have been camshaft driven.
Thanks!
7:40 clean pants please 😂
I wish south west trains just fitted their slammer units with central locking, then surely it would pass the safety regulations right?
That's bloody expensive and also doesn't meet the DDA (now Equality Act) requirements.
Well Chiltern did it with the 121's and they are still running. Also what is it with all these stupid requirements and schemes? Its making the UK railways bland and boring. I mean 'Equality act'?! that's the best one yet xD
How about I make a scheme called "Tell the nanny health & safety and government suits to fuck off act"? :P
There are only two 121s in service. Thus it didn't cost them that much. For SWT to do that would cost millions. Also the 121s only have two months left.
Well if that's the case, then it's nothing but a waste of good units if you ask me...
Unfortunately they were starting to get old and approaching being life-expired so the decision was taken.
I grew up on the chatham main line in the early 90s- and I'm probably one of a few in my generation that remember these things. I've travelled on them plenty of times on the Southwestern during the Southwest Trains era Never on the Southeastern .. such a shame- I'd have really liked to have seen the Kent countryside rushing past on one of these. The southwestern experience was a bit bland really... just miles of line on rattling rolling stock. Still I think the 375's are a good replacement far better than the 377's and don't get me started on the 450's ... fricking awful stock
why? the 450s are very reliable from what I've heard and much more efficient and safer than slam door stock. your attitude is demonstrative of a major problem with the UK railway community and that problem is that fact that allot you guys seem incapable of separating your personal feelings from the reality. its obvious that you have an emotional attachment to certain rolling stock and that's fine its ok to prefer a certain aesthetic over another but you must understand trains a form of public transportation first and foremost and you cannot deny the fact that slammers were old and outdated. as time moves on the network must remain an efficient way of transporting people and therefore its essential that we keep replacing old stock with newer more efficient stock that's more suited to modern day travel patterns. modern day trains like the desiro city units and Aventra's as well as the electrostars and desiros are far more suited to modern day needs and demands that slammers could ever have hoped to be.
@@cultivationape6946 that's ok, I did say the 375's were a good replacement. I don't like the 450's anda lot of people don't really like them; a lot of it is to do with the seating arrangement..and now apparently southwestern railway has shrank the first class section
The class 450s and 444s are decent, just a shame swr have removed the old seating and replaced it with uncomfortable firm leather seats. At least with older stock the seats were somewhat comfortable. It seems like train operators just like to make it more worse for passengers nowadays. No idea why.