The David Rubenstein Show: Yo-Yo Ma
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- Jul.12 -- "The David Rubenstein Show: Peer-to-Peer Conversations" explores successful leadership through the personal and professional choices of the most influential people in business. Renowned financier and philanthropist David Rubenstein travels the country talking to leaders to uncover their stories and their path to success. The third episode of season three features world-acclaimed cellist Yo-Yo Ma.
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I meet Yo-yo Ma in 1997.. I was a young cellist and was in awe by his presence... He gave me free tickets to his concert.. he let me play on his 18th century Montagnana Cello,, was such a privilege to talk to him and see him play... as I was fascinated with all his recordings and the difficult music pieces he has played.. I was compelled to ask him the one question I have been pondering... "What was the hardest music piece you played?" I was think.. Prokofiev.. or Shostakovich.. or The Albert Cello Concerto... but he said..."The hardest piece I play is the one that I play for the first time (i.e. something new you learn)" I have always remembered his words.. coz.. basically.. nothing is really hard if you learn how to do it.. it is only hard when you first learn it... so logical... I used that in my music studies when approaching new music I learn. I hope to see him perform again..
That is excellent and instructional, and so Yo Yo Ma!
Wow what a great experience for you
Inspiring .. I just started learning and can't get enough of yo yo ma's wisdom
Yo Yo Ma is effortlessly charming and humorous and it completely goes over Rubensteins’ head.
agreed!
that's judaism for you
I was thinking exactly this and then yep, yours is the top comment lol
@@jhoang861 Good way to put it. I felt there was something missing in this interview and that's it.
Rubenstein just can't grasp where Mr. Ma is going with the deeper perspectives in this conversation...he keeps trying to get to a grade school level of conversation while Mr. Ma is attempting to share some of the most important aspects of practice, art, perspective in life!
Rub can't understand and he didn't want to understand either
Absolutely right.
so true
David Rubenstein keeps missing YoYo Ma's humorous gems! I keep chuckling and have to go back because the interview just continues without the pause for laughter! Love listening to him talk as well as play.
It’s like watching comedy. Yo Yo Ma is hilarious while David is the ultimate straight guy.
Thats what makes it even more funny: perfect xx
I had to stop watching the interview because Rubenstein continued to completely ignore YoYos entire being. YoYo had to work harder and harder just to express himself, until I couldn't bear to witness his frustration any longer. I met him back stage after a concert he played at Harvard in 1977, he had just graduated and I was still in college, and when I thanked him from my heart for the music he was taken aback by my sincere passion for his performance and was surprised and grateful for my comments. A humble, and great, person.
there's something so calming about the way he speaks.
And something so aggravating about the way the interviewer speaks.
Damn david let's the man finish his train of thought
honestly, i don't appreciate the interviewer's style very much. Mr. Rubenstein seemed to be more interested in his own "brilliant" questions than hearing Ma out and letting Ma finish his train of thoughts. Mr. Ma wanted to go deeper but Mr. Rubenstein didn't have depth to go further with Ma but rather shifted to prescribed questions.
I noticed that too. He seemed obnoxious. He was more interested in his questions and side comments than listening to Yo-yo Ma and taking the cue from his answers for the next relevant question.
He is very hypocrite 🤔🤔🤔
Well...he seems to be completely oblivious of the idea that music has no inherent need for "dominance"or "leading figures"... Yo Yo has to do quite some educating here 😀
i thought the same
I can't agree more. He didn't seem interested in what Mr. Ma had to say.
Yo-yo Ma is such a beautiful, humble soul. His interest in anthropology explains his passion for so many genres of music. I love that he's so passionately interested in so many things, most importantly, his fellow human beings! The mini cello lesson was such a generous thing to do.
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I love how Mr. Rubenstein is trying to box in the interviewer with factual questions: facts and figures that pertain to his history, his performances, his approach, etc. and Yo Yo Ma is trying to explain how music and art transcends all that. Yo Yo Ma is a world treasure; not merely for his playing, but for his soul.
This is how it's like when you pair up the grumpiest kid with the happiest kid in class
That made me laugh out loud, hard!
Gosh David Rubenstein is so cringe-worthy. Yo Yo Ma is a whole league of his own. So passionate and charming. Virtuoso.
”Master an instrument is there to serve the purpose of expression. The purpose of doing something in music is to find your voice.“ 🤘
I adore and respect Yo-Yo Ma. He is a beautiful human being inside and out. He communicates with all people and share his passion with his music around the world. His presence, his music touches and heals people all over the world! He deserved the world Nobel Prize. I requested my family to play Yo-Yo Ma’s record at my funeral🙏
Wise choice,, a gift to heal
Brilliant idea!
What an amazing, talented, humble Yo Yo Ma is. So glad found this.
Amazing to get inside his brain. Genius. It’s also fascinating to watch the interaction between an analyst and an artist.
My sentiments exactly.
Rubinstein does not understand his subject. He glosses over the most profound moments from his interviewee as if he were working down a checklist, but he misses the whole point. Rubinstein asks about acoustics, Yo Yo Ma explains the magic and chemistry between the musicians. Rubinstein asks about success, Yo Yo Ma tells that success is giving a sublime performance, not about awards or how many albums you have cut. It was a chance to grow as an interviewer. It is an intelligence without depth, if such a thing is possible.
I agree; I don't think much of Rubenstein's skills as an interviewer. I suppose it's his money and privilege that gets him the gig. Fortunately in this case, Yo-yo Ma's charm and exuberance still comes through.
I remember meeting him when he gave a recital at SUNY Stony Brook. He's truly a great cellist and a very great man.
They are at two different frequencies. World of money (power, recognition, etc) vs world of music (soul, aestheticism, culture, values, inner fulfillment)🍀🌸
I remember going to a summer party with a bunch of musicians. There was lots of talk about money.
This interviewer has a tone of “know it all”. Just listening to the first 5 mins. And now scrolling down the comments makes me 🤔. YoYo Ma has left a footprint in this man’s knowing about interviews. Good luck!
It’s great to see hear Yo Yo Ma, but so many times Rubenstein rather than listening to Ma and pursuing the thought further or letting him go with the train of thought, Rube goes back to some preformatted interview question where he tells Yo he did this or that! Let Ma go with it. I am so disappointed with missed opportunities in this interview. He sounds like a High School reporter with a checklist.
I guess he did so to make sure may different subjects were covered, because just one tiny part of his life could take up the whole interview. I guess Yo-Yo Ma nerds would prefer to dig deeper on a few things, but for a persons like me, who know nothing about him, I think we got a good introduction to him.
Doug P this is the first time I’ve ever heard him speak and I’ve never really listened to him play but I ended up watching this by accident and I agree with you I’m 100% that he should’ve just let them keep on talking I could listen to Yo-Yo Ma talk for hours and never be bored this guy is freaking amazing and the way he did robes being a musician in a such depths thats so intelligent and next level that my mind is blown.
i agree, unfortunately that is the problem with most tv interviews, they mostly only worry about the format, time, or being 'funny' and mostly dont even ever listen to the person they invited. but here nonetheless is worth listening to what he is given possibility to say.
Ma seems a very simple, direct and sincere person.
TV interviews are limited to time constraints, more so than TH-cam interviews. But even then there are also appointment constraints for busy people such as Mr. Rubenstein and Mr. Ma. The interview could have been richer had they arranged for a booked half-day, or even full-day, for the interview.
But they both have day jobs, and so, well... I don't know.
Yeah, no kidding....Yo-Yo Ma starts to express ideas about playing in the moment and each performance being a moment to inspire future moments etc. and then David asks about whether he ate a ham sandwich on Wednesday...
Total fly-by. Almost Spinal Tap-esque.
The editing here is frustrating. It seemed to cut him off right as he was making his point several times
Yo-Yo is completely engaged. His commitment to the task at hand sets him apart. Being a great artist means being a great communicator!
What an amazing human being, Yo Yo Ma is. Humble, intelligent, humorous, but above all else genuine which is so rare anymore!!! He is an absolute gift to humanity!! I loved every minute of this interview!! 💜 💜
This is perhaps the closest thing to a human being being interviewed by a species of fish lol
Yo Yo Ma is so humble.
Mr Ma has such a pleasant voice. Wonderful to listen to.
Yo-Yo Ma is such a great philosopher! His music is all about his views on life and people!
Rubenstein was probably so lost when Maestro Ma said "people respond to music both emotionally and analytically". He just didn't seem to be interested in talking about "music" at all. He can't even tell Ma was very interested in talking about playing cello with him.
An artist IS an artist. That passion for expressions.
Very nice interview. Appreciate Mr. Ma's depth of thought. So important for people to be allowed to be themselves. Otherwise, what would there be to express? Thank you to him for sharing his music.
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Probably the greatest revelation for me in this interview is that at the direction of his father, the first piece Yo-Yo Ma played is also the piece he is most famous for - Bach: cello suite no. 1 in G major, Prelude. That revelation brought tears to my eyes because I am sure he remembers his father every time he plays it. Thus, it is only right that this piece, most likely his fondest, is what he's best known for. Its a tribute to his father.
Beautifully said!
He played it at the Texas/Mexico border as well. Beautiful Healer. th-cam.com/video/DtC55rfJQYY/w-d-xo.html
Yo Yo Ma delivers so many lessons in this interview it should be a must watch for everyone.
This is such an open and honest man, what a pleasure to listen to.
It's really not peer to peer conversation. Their thoughts are not on the same level.
Ya, Yo Yo is struggling with the meaning of life and David just wants to know what brand of rosin he puts on his bow or something......
Like his father Ma is a great teacher. He is attempting to teach Rubinstein to listen in each of his responses, but he (Rubinstein) totally misses the instruction. Sadly, for him, I think he's one of those who is culturally tone deaf, in spite of his activity as an "art collector."
Exactly, the host is a student, but the Teacher, is a genius!
Rubinstein should interview a Bloomberg terminal or just another VC/hedge fund titan, than a wonderful soul and human being...
So wonderful! Thank you for sharing!
You've filled our days!!!
So very wonderful. Thank u so very much. U have made my day and broken my heart
If you watch Yo Yo Ma perform with children, you will see the depth of this man’s spirit. Yes he’s probably the most accomplished cellist alive today, but his goal seems to bring out the best in all around him. He needs not our dilation bet seems to get great joy from those with whom he comes into contact....
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Wow, I never saw this before. Thanks for this gem!!
The host is literally a robot.
Hes a journalist first than human.
He even has the monotone robot voice! Lol
Rubinstein is a pro. You just have to watch how talkshow hosts interview Yo Yo to know Rubinstein is respectful. He has known Yo Yo for some time and they are colleagues in the Kennedy Centre. The easiest thing would have been for Rubinstein to engage YoYo in this interview more casually as friends do with insider banters and have the interview risk ending up like a talkshow but then Rubinstein likely wouldn't have been able to bring out the most thoughtful answers from Ma. I like this interview just the way it is.
Such a great human being, wise, charming and inspiring!!! Thank you❤❤❤
Nice to see the parallels in excellence between Rube's different interviewiee's. Yo-yo is so humble
Yo Yo Ma is so inspiring. He really inspires me as an adult beginner harpist. I can tell he really does care about people and that's a beautiful trait to have
I know nothing about this man or instruments, but it is very clear that he is brilliant.
@5:52 so painful for me to watch someone tried to fast forward the conversation when Ma’s explaining an important concept of efficient practice. I really wanna hear more on every ideas Ma’s trying to dip into. Sad
I so agree with you
agreed, I was so enjoying that explanation :(
same here.. my whole body is ready for the Maestro's explanation and then the topic was shifted, apparently Yo-yo is very willing to continue this topic and he's more excited than the rest of the time.
I could see why Fred Roger and Yo Yo Ma are at the same level. They both have such profound observation about humanity in terms of what culture and arts as medium of expressions that could connect people, bringing comfort and healing to themselves and to others. Yo Yo Ma explains music so brilliantly but the interviewer wasn't interested in listening, too busy going through his own lists of questions. He didn't pick up the cues from Yo Yo Ma. So many missed opportunities.
An amazing interview with an amazing person!
A big fan of Yo Yo Ma since his young age and still carry a young heart with much humor. ❤
Starting as an absolute beginner to music and the cello in my 40's I'm a little depressed by the revelation you need to learn music pieces before you're 21.....?? I'm still going to bash away but incredible hearing an inspiring musician like Yo-Yo...
What he means is, you'll have to rehearse the pieces you learn more frequently and longer. He has pieces he can play from memory - without thinking, probably all of Backs Cello Suites, for instance. But he has other pieces that after he learns it, it wont stick, he'll have to re-learn it when he has to play it again, or simply sight-read the music in the moment. I'm sure he doesn't remember every symphonic cello piece. Only those solo pieces does he probably know by heart, maybe a few Cello concertos because he's so familiar with it, otherwise, he's sight-reading.
For you, a beginner, it would be best for you to learn to sight-read proficiently, as you may not be able to memorize as easily as someone half your age. But you can always learn to read the music on the page and make that connection from the page to your fingers on the instrument. Most musicians rely on sight-reading. Only the extremely gifted and or extremely well prepared and confident in their practice/rehearsal don't need the music when playing. Think of any orchestra player, they have the piece of music in front of them. They play too much music to memorize it, plus, you aren't playing for yourself but with each other, you have to allow the conductor and the music on the page to lead you.
Take heart, you can learn. Also, I suggest getting stickers that mark out your finger placement (if possible) so you don't sound too bad when practicing, eventually, you can get rid of them.
I'm a composer, I play piano and guitar. I typically remember a piece I learn and don't need the music thereafter and only need to play it ever so often to keep it fresh and not forget. That's me though, it may be more difficult for others. I'm also not too good at sight-reading, so I would have to memorize a piece in order to play with others, but that's not too difficult for me, as I'm not playing classical/concert pieces, but more contemporary music. I mostly focus on chords and choose my own voicings of those chords and keep the rhythm and melody (esp. on piano) which I can usually play from memory.
Don't give up! He specifically meant *memorizing* music and keeping it memorized! Playing and memorizing is still possible at any age.
It’s never too late. Don’t stress. It may take longer to learn new repertoire as you get older, but it isn’t impossible. Perseverance and patience. Don’t be too hard on yourself as you progress.
What an inspiring interview. I was trained to be a concert pianist and he is right. What makes you an artist is to "feel" the music after you have learned it the right way, the composer's way, but you feel it your way and that makes you different than others playing the same number.
I think that it was a great interview simply because David's questions lead to the great answers Yo-Yo Ma gave. I enjoyed every second of the friction going on there...
Hahahahah Yo Yo Ma is so funny! I didn’t expect that! Thank you David!
Great thoughts from a genius🤗🎶
David Rubenstein is IN NO WAY the peer of Maestro Ma.
Thank you very much from Holland! Inspiring in many ways!
What a beautiful person!! He's an exemplary humanitarian!
He's very special and is obviously a person who values people very greatly
Yo-Yo Ma is a gifted, humble, talented, handsome, beautiful human. I can remember decades ago, living in the Washington, DC area, a DC Councilman who was quite popular saying to an interviewer that he was gonna go listen to the talented musician, Yo Mama!!! ...Fact.
I love watching these interviews and stuff like this.
though feel very inadequate while watching.
Challenged, not inadequate....just in awe.
I really don't know why such great minds accept to converse in your level.
First heard of yoyo from crouching tiger... What a cool dude
David Rubenstein is a success business man for sure, but he doesn't come close to understanding the beautiful mind of Yoyo Ma... Ma is trying to discuss the meaning of music and life. While the interviewer looks confused like "just tell me some stories from all your trips. Next question!" It's painful to watch.
Very disappointed that David appeared to not be interested in what Yo Yo Ma had to say that robbed us of simply listening to an excellent musician and communicated. Have watch David do outstanding interviews but this was terrible
the meaning of live music experience. explained.
One of "the best" musician on earth!
Legend
What was the song that Yo-Yo Ma played?
How many times u going to pop up YOYO MA, we got it by the second time, great Interview, like a mini bit size documentary, we need one on Yuja. IN A VERY SEXY DRESS PLEASE. 😊
Humble Genius!!!
Good grief Rubenstein is a bad interviewer.
Mathias Laustrup but yoyo is a good interviewee
Well, he did say in the intro that he doesn’t consider himself a journalist.. so, I wouldn’t put too high of a bar to begin with ^^
Basically he does lack a sense of humour
It's strange to see David in awe.
A warmhearted Yo Yo Ma and a cold David Rubenstein
16:15 he mentioned Jakarta's concert.. it was "The Bach Project" 2019.. I hope he will come back to Jakarta..
Something tells me that he especially loves people like David Rubenstein
This guy lives in a world created for him by his father. His father is the true great man.
Interesting interview though.... Would be more interesting to know how much of his ideology his father shares, and how much of it was designed to make him a great musician.
insightful and inspiring interview
Interviewer not following what Ma is trying to say. Already got his mind set
Yo-Yo Ma I think you lost David Rubenstein on the second note.
Yeah, David is right - he is definitely not a journalist. Shallow and deep waters - such a big difference. Or maybe their brains just work differently? Maybe when it’s a different subject matter that David knew more about he would have more grasp? But Yo-yo Ma is talking about life, though.
This interview is a good example of someone talking about life when the the other about resume.
I wonder if he’s written a book, it would be super insightful and amazing, and I bet universal not just cellist.
This is a wonderful episode. Next time you're after a musician, please consider Joe Satriani.
One of my best days was having Yo-Yo meet the Chicago Youth Strings!
We can all try to understand abstract concepts... some better than others. It's so wonderful to have compationate teachers.
I will be listening to you to ma!
One of those rare times, something ineffable is happening, a smile appears, the visit lives on so effortlessly...
I wonder what Yo-Yo scores as his IQ. I suspect his emotional intelligenceis the greatest of all. A true blessing to the world, our friend Yo-Yo Ma x
Great interview. Rubenstein did an excellent job in bringing out the best of his subjects
What a shame. It's difficult to tell whether it was the interviewer or the editing that cut Ma's brilliant and beautiful answers short; it is so pervasive throughout this clip and so obnoxious that it's hard to listen to the rest of this. The interviewer seems to have locked down on some laundry list of questions to ask, rather than letting Ma finish his thoughts and elaborate on his beautiful answers. I would love to hear the rest of his explanation on practicing especially. I think that response was a graceful testament to several of his beliefs that he was trying to communicate.
Never thought I'd downvote anything with Yo Yo Ma, but this thumbs down is to the terrible interview/editing style.
Editing for sure.
从这段访问，可看出马友友是个非常有涵养的艺术家，真骄傲他是华藉
He is not chinese borrower or cultivated any from chinese alone. He refined things being a human, representing the model of humanity. What makes him better was he was a chinese (known for oppression and commnism) netrialized by 100% grew up and EDUCATED in western world. So thats why a lot of chinese people from mainland wanted and wished to send their children to western world. To be a human.
This is what your xi jinping lacking of. Though he has sister and sister in law living is US and Canada. Just imaginge that, china president's relatives preferred to live in western world than in mainland.
So by now you already knew, how yoyo ma got his being what he is now today.
such a humble musician, however such a bad interviewer
He usually interviews businessmen. Maybe this is out of his element
With due respect to David..this was not a peer to peer conversation..
if you listen yo yoma speaks in bach notes , da -da -daa -da -daaaaa. its interesting because musicians cant help but follow their ears just like dogs cant help but be led by their nose before other senses.
YoYo-Ma …. Nothing but the ultimate Jedi !!
What were these questions?
David needs to learn a thing or two about interviewing from Joe Rogan
Yo-Yo has spirits！
Awesome awesome
Yo Yo seems like such a beautiful human being.
Bloomberg should be ashamed for having Rubenstein
David. Rubinstein is a serious very detailed interviewer. Yo yo Ma is a serious guy and answers questions seriously, loves music seriously, works hard by efforts to achieve his
Music performance seriously. He doesn’t care whatever he performed, wherever he performed, but tries his best to achieve and pease his audiences’ ears as much as he can. I guess engaging anythings seriously may help hardworking efforts to help out the results always either quickly or gradually. I also believe that each country has own histories, cultures, principles, efforts, goals by own recognitions, principles and efforts by learning more to understand more and do better things quickly and always. I guess both of them mentioned and answered for that similar reasons. As anyone the same way, partial learned from parents, partial learned from schools, partial learned from societies and partial leaned from great leaderships’ speeches by America’s principles as their leadership achievements of experiences.
Thanks. I am ok and just work hard and enjoying working together. I like to learn from others’ efforts for getting things done quickly together always. Nothing can be easy, learn more will be helpful always. 😊