Is the new Honda Civic the best price performance car? 2023 e:HEV Hybrid driving REVIEW
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- This is our in-depth review of the 2023 Honda Civic e:HEV (Hybrid). We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 2023 Honda Civic hatch
00:15 Civic e:HEV in Crystal Red
00:43 Length and generation changes
02:06 Rear and suspension
02:43 Interior: key fob and doors
03:35 Steering wheel with real buttons!
04:27 Seating position and panoramic roof
05:15 Interior cockpit overview
06:02 Infotainment system
06:47 Digital instruments
07:03 Lower middle console
07:45 Rear seats
08:58 Hatchback trunk / boot
10:11 Engines: turbo, N/A and Hybrid
11:08 Driving: Acceleration Civic e:HEV
12:37 Autobahn motorway cruising
14:05 Hybrid feeling
16:31 Fuel economy / consumption
18:50 More high speed highway driving
20:20 Best price-performance car?
21:05 Understeer?
21:34 Assistance systems
23:25 User interface while driving
25:20 Premium driving feel?
27:56 Electric driving moments
32:04 Dynamic driving
#Honda #HondaCivic
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00:00 2023 Honda Civic hatch
00:15 Civic e:HEV in Crystal Red
00:43 Length and generation changes
02:06 Rear and suspension
02:43 Interior: key fob and doors
03:35 Steering wheel with real buttons!
04:27 Seating position and panoramic roof
05:15 Interior cockpit overview
06:02 Infotainment system
06:47 Digital instruments
07:03 Lower middle console
07:45 Rear seats
08:58 Hatchback trunk / boot
10:11 Engines: turbo, N/A and Hybrid
11:08 Driving: Acceleration Civic e:HEV
12:37 Autobahn motorway cruising
14:05 Hybrid feeling
16:31 Fuel economy / consumption
18:50 More high speed highway driving
20:20 Best price-performance car?
21:05 Understeer?
21:34 Assistance systems
23:25 User interface while driving
25:20 Premium driving feel?
27:56 Electric driving moments
32:04 Dynamic driving
#Honda #HondaCivic
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We bought Honda Civic Hatchback Advance 2023 a month ago in white colour.
Best choise ever.
Very good car.
I owned very nice and fun cars but this one is something special.
One of the most competent motoring journalists out there. Great job Thomas
With this generation, Honda has shown that it knows how to make a better car than BMW or Audi, even Mercedes.
Germans have given up on trying to mass produce quality cars for everyday people. VW in America is junk quality compared to Toyota, Honda, and Mazda. I rarely see VWs on the road either.
Especially now that German cars are not very reliable and made to a price
I really applaud Honda for keeping things simple in the interior.
The way that many manufactures are adding complexity to their modern interiors in the name of increased technology is a real turn off for me. So much so that I would buy an older model of a car with a simpler interior rather than the new current version with greater ( and unnecessary ) techno complexity
Must be a perceived perception here because Honda literally jam packed this Civic with every new technology into this thing.
Honda learned their lesson from the previous gen HVAC touchscreen, which is always a bad idea. What if the screen breaks and your in Canada or a blizzard and you can't adjust the heat!
Great drive, great horsepower and friendly to horses - what’s not too like. Excellent review as usual Thomas.
Thanks 🙏
Love when Thomas reviews the cars. Really informative.
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Really love the interior! Is almost retro in a way and futuristic. Really awesome car !
Currently own a FK8. Trading that for the the Advance trim in blue ( Thomas should be pleased), when i drove the car i was surprised at the comfort. But what sealed the deal for me was the performance and handling, really impressive. The car comes with a lovely interior and the mpg is good, the bad news is i have to wait till March ( UK).
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I have to wait till March too, here in Southern Italy (I bought it 3 weeks ago)
Did you test drive many other “ new models “ before you chose civic ?
@@boyasaka No i didn't Chris. To be honest my intention was to buy the FL5, but £47000 too rich for me that's a price increase of £13000 compared to my FK8 in the UK. I was very surprised as mentioned before regarding the E HEV, it really was fun to drive. Steering very precise, handling excellent very stable and acceleration not to be sniffed at ( Tested a few bends😉). Looking forward to March.
I own a fk8 and I am getting a advance trim in white with sport pack on it with black badges.
Thanks Thomas I hadn’t realised it’s a non turbo petrol engine. To me the electric bit gives you the ‘turbo’ type acceleration without using more petrol. Genius Honda
Indeed!
@@autogefuehli also hope none of the oil dilution issues
Great review Thomas really informative and entertaining keep up the good work 👍
Great new honda civic
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Great review, just 3 years ago I would only ever consider buying a German manufacturer car, in this class a Golf (7.5) or a A3, possibly a Focus, its shocking how today back end of 2022 these manufacurers have all taken a step backwards especially in terms of both quality and engine innovation, and Honda has stepped 2 steps forwards and overtaken the like of the Golf! A Honda is better built than a VW - still shocks me!
thanks! yes indeed
What's wrong with the A3? I thought Audi are still well built no?
In America Honda have been better than VW for decades.
Have been driving a nardo grey Honda Civic for the last month and i have to say that its fantastic!
Would you say,Thomas, that its one of the best cars out there?
Congrats for your work, possibly the best car reviewer!
Thanks 🙏
Well as the title says hehe
Full Screen and Full Length is back, yes! Now in 4k even!
Yessss
@@autogefuehl keep it thomas..forever!
I missed those biblical words!
Was eagerly waiting for your review Thomas! Great job as always, the Civic looks like a really nice overall package
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Finally a review that actually gives the proper trunk dimensions, bless you!
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Thank you. I really love your presentation style and impressive knowledge coupled with comparison experience. Brilliant
Thanks! Feel free to recommend our channel :-)
Honda is insanely underrated in europe thanks to the mainstream print media...
Agreed. I live in the Balkans and i drive a CRV and everybody is asking me what car is this. There are like 20 Honda's in the whole country🤣 Shame for the others with their golfs and passats cuz it's bulletprof reliable sturdy car
It's overrated everywhere else.
The motoring media in the UK is an absolute farce, just a bunch of VAG advertisements. Mind you people are happy to parrot the propaganda too, anything high quality or good value is immediately labelled an "old person's car" and laughed at. In other countries people value these qualities.
@@TheSpoovy It's even worse in germany. People in 70 hp VW Polo are accusing Lexus owners of "being jealous bc they cant afford a VW and have to drive a car for poor welfare parasites"...
What's Europe's mainstream print media doing to make Hondas underrated
Thomas I really appreciate your reviews and the as honest as possible opinions! Keep up the good work!
thanks keep tuning in !
One of the best reviews from you, thank you.
Highly appreciated! Please recommend our channel 😎
Thank you for a great review Thomas, I love watching your reviews man, great work!!
thanks! Please recommend =)
I have only heard praises for this car! Being what it is (not a luxury car) if you keep that in mind! Its a perfect allrounder!
Great review as always Thomas! I also had the chance to use the 11th gen Honda Civic for one week and I'm so in love with the clicking sound of the buttons. The only thing I dislike is that in my country, Honda kept the Honda Sensing system but they removed the sensors around the car. lol
It's a lovely car. It's a nice review. Thanks for posting
Great review and I dig the accent along with the enthusiasm.
thanks! please recommend our channel :-)
The build quality is higher than BMW 3-series.
Great review as always. Thank you!
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Hi Thomas, it's true that the seat heating button is hidden behind the wheel, but the information on set level is relayed on the top corner of the screen and stays there for a few seconds, so that the driver doesn't need to look down. Same goes for all inputs to the climate system.
Here is how powertrain works.
It's based on same idea as in eg. Jazz, but it's more powerful one and newly developed.
This car has no gearbox in any shape.
It's all simulated and extra faked in SPORT mode buy special unit which can't be turned off (but can be disconnected by 10min DIY). "Gears" in this car is a modulation of the current which powers electric motor.
It's basically an electric car, which most of the time is driven by quite powerful electric motor. Only at specific scenarios (calm, steady ride at 70-140Km/h) system can switch to direct drive by petrol engine (through simple clutch, aka. 6th gear). Any acceleration, hill etc and you back to hybrid mode where electric motor powers wheels and petrol engine just powers generator and battery. In case of any sudden need for extra power system will use generator (so also petrol engine) + stored battery power.
This car never uses both engines at the same time to drive wheels! It's fundamentally different system to Toyota's.
Whole idea is based on fact that petrol engine is mostly disconnected from wheels and can operate at optimal conditions close to maximum engine efficiency (2-3K RPM). Any surplus of energy is stored in battery for later use. This is key secret of this drive system. Typical petrol car operates at relatively low efficiency which changes through the drive and about never reaches optimal value. Here petrol engine, is most of the time, close to its optimal working point, so petrol usage is relatively low (recuperated energy helps further). System is so clever, that when you drive steadily on petrol engine directly and battery gets full, it will switch petrol engine off and instead of wasting new energy it will drive purely from energy stored in battery (even if we drive eg. 120Km/h). Once battery discharges (not close to 0 , but to safe value to prolong its life) petrol engine turns itself on and whole cycle repeats. Petrol engine never slows or speeds too much as this would mean leaving optimal working condition (and burning even 2x more fuel). Instead we either store extra energy in battery or take it from battery (surplus of energy stored earlier or from recuperation). Plain simple at the end. Even recuperation works efficiently as wheels are connected directly with powerful electric motor (no gearbox). Extra good news is that petrol engine is never stressed too much, but operates steadily around its optimal conditions. Thanks to all of this Honda offers warranty up to 300K km as there is not much to break (electric motors are rather reliable parts). We will see how it translates to real life.
Also real 0-100km/h in sport mode is close to 7.0 sec not 8.
Acceleration is great because in practice it's basically an electric car with 184HP/315Nm, so not weak at all. It's not typical hybrid car at all. It's more an electric car where big battery (which is still far too weak and problematic for worldwide adoption) is replaced with petrol engine acting as generator. Very different to Toyota's system.
Thanks for the long text!
In strong acceleration, both motors do work together still to generate power, but u say that in strong acceleration just the electric motor powers the wheels?
@@autogefuehl In strong acceleration petrol motor always work, but it powers generator, not wheels + you get current from battery. Only electric motor powers wheels.
As I said- in Honda system either electric or petrol motor powers wheels. Never both together. Petrol motor only powers wheels in specific conditions as mentioned and it's never in stress or slow speeds (
Cool highly appreciated!
Any idea how long will be lifecycle of battery in this setup? Can this battery live longer than for example 5 years without significant degradation even though it's low capacity (only 1kWh) is used by 135 kW electric motor?
Nice car, thanks for a great review Thomas 👍.
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Very well done Sir. Thank you kindly!
Very good review Thomas, useful info, thanks. Greetings from Belgium. 👍👍👍
Amazing review as always Thomas! In my opinion (being after test-drive with that car) it's a very interesting position on the market. I'm a happy owner of Civic IX gen. and I'm seriously thinking about 11 gen. Love from Poland!
🙌🙌 best greetings!
I’m envious of you guys in Europe, this drivetrain is so clever.
Great review!
thanks keep tuning in! :)
Brilliant review Thomas, thanks!
What’s your view on Honda not being so successful in Europe?
Great review. Love the fastback style and the old school Audi a3 like interior. This or a Golf? No contest.
Excellent!
Great review. Ordered mine in November same Red metallic colour. Drives brilliantly. The controls are so easy to navigate Estimated delivery is May 2023. I think Honda have a sure fire winner with car 🚗
Enjoy!
Thank you for this review. A lot of information, but nice to watch, sometimes funny bits. The Honda seems to be a great car. I am particularly interested in the workings of the hybrid drivetrain, i think it’s a great concept and I want to try the car out at the Honda dealership.
Thanks 🙏
go for it!
Hi Thomas, thanks for this review. I am a big fan of Honda's interiors, they look modern, sleek, and they are functional. It really makes me want to get behind the wheel and go for a drive, especially at night when the dashboard and all commands gets illuminated. I do like the front but I am more reserved about the profile and the rear. This wouldn't stop me from buying it though. And I love the Accord too, actually even better (again more for the interior).
Oh, Thomas, a last thing: Do you have any plans to review the Citroën C5X? This car is growing a lot on me and your opinion is always valued! Cheers from Canada!
Thanks!
Seen the Peugeot 408?
th-cam.com/video/idU23O_HDqk/w-d-xo.html
More or less a c5x
@@autogefuehl Thomas, are you serious? I am surprised you wrote that. First of all, yes, I have seen the 408 review, but the C5X is a car with a different personality and philosophy. Please, if you have time and the chance, review the Citroën. I like the 408, but it's not a C5X. Many thanks!
Hello Thomas, thank you for the great review. Just one question. Did you get a chance to test the lights too? Apparently they should have sort of matrix technology, but reading different opinions so I was wondering how do you find them. Thanks
Indeed , oncoming traffic is not blinded
Excellent review. I have now bought one. Many thanks.
Are you satisfied?
Very much.
I had two VW Golfs MK6 and MK7 looks like Honda might be my next car because previously VW was user friendly and premium now the Korean and Japanese have left VW behind.
Mate go for a MK8 Golf test drive but fully specc'ed up to R-line fitout with Sound & Vision package and panoramic sunroof (still cheaper than the Honda Civic hybrid by far), with this spec far more luxurious feeling than MK7 and tech far more progressive/futuristic..but still user friendly enough..
Hi
Great Review. I have this car since 2 weeks now :) (Elegance trim) Great Car. When my wife is driving in city the fuel economy is 2,5L on 100km!
And the sound is comming from the speakers - not engine (In Sport Mode)
If you are in Normal or Eco mode it is much quiter (and economical)
Thanks yes 🙌
This is the best video for civic ehev.
What do u think about the sound/noise? Is it quite inside comparing to a 330e?
cross my fingers they are also succeeding commercially in Europe with Civic. I drive for city tours new Jazz and very happy with it....People often complaint price of Honda....but do your maths by driving, comparing specs and reliability stats etc ! Great review Thomas. A
Thanks 🙏
I agree the Honda drives fantastic with plenty of smooth performance plus great economy Trading my Mercedes C Class diesel for new Civic Advantage. Hopefully arrives at Honda dealership in April 23. Update. The car is now ready for handover in July 2023 🎉🎉
Top 10 Civic comment. Great review road!!!!
This is probably the best hybrid car on the market today. Full stop.
Thanks for your review. I took a test drive. The performance, handling en overall package is very nice. What do you think about the overall road sound insulation. I found it to be quit loud. Other cars seem to be more silent like a Mazda 3..
Yes sound insulation is not top notch
Me like da kr.
Very elegant interior design 2 and real buttons, how nice and useful.
Good job Ho-nu-daa👍
Great review, waiting for this civic hatchback advanced trim to go on sale in the states. I already have a request in at dealership for purchase. I have accord 2.0T 10 speed that I love and its a keeper.
Thanks 🙏
Hello Thomas. Got my Advanced today in Thomas Blue :). Have to agree with you about how easy it was to learn the systems of the car, took me about 15 mins.👍
Cool 😎
@@autogefuehl 👍
kann das Auto beim Bremsen auch rekuperieren? Super Video übrigens! LG
Seems like a great car. The price is not bad considering that it's a hybrid and the performance is decent. The problem is that there isn't a cheaper model.
Even the base model Jazz is crazy expensive these days.
As requested for you!🙂 What other reviews are missing atm and you want to see? Please post!
Citroën C5X, if possible!!! Danke schön!
Ford Everest
I've enjoyd it, even though I'm not even near owning one! Defenitly one of the best cars that ticks all the boxes for me! Cheers!
The transaxle is quite impressive. It’s an exciting piece of engineering that is more enjoyable on a day to day because of the series hybrid and the ability to sit in overdrive on the interstate with only the engine powering the drive shaft.
I like that coat Thomas is wearing, It's fabulous!
Congratulations! Direct to point… I’ll change my corolla Cross hibryd by new civic hibryd a soon as possible! Waiting arribe in Brazil! Thank you to help me in the choose!
I wonder which chassis feels more precise and better planted - the new Civic or BMW F40? I currently drive an F20 and I'm really tempted to test drive this Civic!
About the seat heating button. You can actually see the level on the screen as you push the button, also in the video. 😉
Another fantastic review. Love how you sum up a good easy to use interface, it really should be obvious and require little to no learning curve. I also like your sense of humour……amazing for a German! Joke!😂😊😂
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Germans have great sense of humor for sure
You missed the Easter egg under the tray in the middle arm rest ;). Excellent review as always, the sound of the doors and hatch impressed me too, very solid. The hybrid drive train is very good (and I'm driving a 3th gen Toyota hybrid drive train with the 2.5 liter). Feels like a car at least 10.000 euro more expensive
What easter egg?
Thanks 🙏
@@autogefuehl there's drawing of a first gen Civic under there
Ahhh
@@autogefuehl and the date of production of the car you re driving in.
I'll definitely pic this Civic over a Golf or a Leon or any other car in the same category.
The Cupra formentor may sway you
What a beautiful place Germany is. Fantastic car too 👌
Thanks for the review Thomas. Ordered the top Advance model here in the U.K. just yesterday after a test drive. Thoroughly impressed with this car.
Was the interior noisy because of the panoramic roof? They said that in other car reviews.
Fuel consumption on highway vs city drive? How is the charging then?
Hello Autogefuhl, I noticed video is a bit underexposed , not sure it's due to camera settings or postprocessing ? Anyway great content as usually.
Thanks we ll take a look!
lovely colour, and it looks smoother than before, love it, kinda bmw 3 GT alike?
Superb review Thomas, would love to trade my 10th Gen Civic Turbo for this, but not sure when these eHEV's will arrive in New Zealand. My wife drives the new Jazz eHEV and it's fantastic, tons of tech under that conservative skin!
Cheers!
A lovely and detailed review of a fascinating hybrid honda. Using the petrol engine to charge the battery at speeds below 110kmph sounds like a mad geniuses plan. I only dont like the bonnet which looks too flat, maybe a slight bulge increase in the middle, would have done wonders.
Great video! I am curious to know how this cvt will hold up with time. Some of the newest cvts are actually e-cvts and apparently much better and more reliable. I guess time will tell. Danke!
This Civic doesn't have any gearbox. Honda classifies it as an eCVT, but they use only the electric motors to change the speed
an e-CVT has totally nothing to do with a normal CVT. I think they could have used another name for the transmission without using "CVT". Here a very very intresting video on how this transmission works: th-cam.com/video/QLUIExAnNcE/w-d-xo.html
WHAT A CAR!
Awesome car 🚙
Hello again Thomas, would you recommend this civic hybrid over a camry hybrid? Thanks
tough indeed, they both come close! th-cam.com/video/E0JbxOzEuW4/w-d-xo.html
Nice!
When will us have it? Maybe q1 next year? Or q4 this year?
I have a 9th gen and im strongly considering upgrading
Thank you for your review. Excellent as usual. I would really be interested in this car in particular it's hybrid system. 2 question though, if we assume this lithium ion battery is much smaller than a normal hybrid system ( in your review you observed how quickly it filled and emptied) will the battery go through the 3000 charge/discharge cycles which is recognised as the beginning of the end of it ability to hold full capacity much sooner than normal ☹️.
Because it's a smaller battery will it then be practical and cost effective to replace it as it nears the end of its life 🙂
I would appreciate your thoughts.
Cheers!
Hmm well after a while it will decrease its capacity but i dont know if its that significant, should take years. And even then it will still be usable
17:37 - How come the BSM icon in the left side mirror didn't light up when that car was passing? Did you turn that function off or something?
Hmm strange
Do a comparison with the Corolla Hybrid or Cross Hybrid!
Thanks for the review Thomas! Was really looking forward for your indepth review of this Honda Civic since it is a candidate for me. As far as I understood that fine engine noise is actually fake, it's pumped through the cabin speakers..it's artificial 🙂 doesn't matter though..sounds nice 👍. One aspect I'm really interested in -- from your perspective (I'm due soon to take a test drive myself) is the sound insulation on normal highway speeds good enough? Or you consider it uncomfortable loud? Really looking for you answer. Thanks and keep up the good work! Greetings from Romania!
yes indeed in sport mode!
Hm it is ok but nothing special as for insulation, premium cars do better there, but are also way more expensive
thanks for the support ! :)
Know this episode btw?
th-cam.com/video/jkNtF_Nquyc/w-d-xo.html
I've been driving the basic trim (elegance - probably the best in terms of sound/comfort) for a month now and I'd say the insulation up to 120 km/h is great, up to 140 km/h is good (much better than 10th gen, I'd say above avg for non-premium but still not at level of premium cars, audi/bmw etc.), 150 km/h and above is below acceptable in my opinion (that being said this car isn't supposed to be doing those speeds daily and it's definitely better to go with normal premium diesel at this point). If you have any additional questions feel free to ask, happy to share!
@@rafawojcik3011 thanks a lot for your feedback, really appreciated 👍
I think the sound it makes in sport mode is a fake sound played thru speakers. Super complete review as always :)
Ya indeed thanks 🙏
Yeah most probably but when you actually drive, it doesn't sound annoying like most cars and sounds much bettera and realistic than the previous one, in fact it sounds nice and actually useable. They're using a nice engine tone and good quality speakers here 😌
The sound is only in sport mode, Eco and normal are silent
You should also make consumption videos where you drive these cars as economically as possible in city and highway. That'd be great.
Excellent review, thanks. I have a Sport model on order, due in January/February 2023 (France). No mention though if you can adjust the strength of regen braking: I believe this is possible using paddles behind steering wheel. Can you confirm?
Cheers! I ll re check
Yes, it’s possibly to calibrate the regen braking using the steering paddles
But it resets each time the car is restarted
But not surprisingly when in sports mode.@@Colster1001
Thomas your warm and wise insight continues to be a pleasure to watch 🤩
highly appreciated! Please keep tuning in :-)
One of the best reviews of this car, as usual with this channel 👍👍 but just one little correction, the engine sound in "sport mode" is completely fake, in reality the combustion engine stays almost always at the same rpm, it only picks up at highway speeds but only with one long gear, there should not be a sound change.
Yes indeed thank you!
The sound in Sport Mode is only enhanced via the sound system, but the RPMs you hear are what the ICE is doing in real time. In other modes will do just the same but without the extra echo/equalizing from the speakers.
They tuned the ICE output-generator input with those varying RPMs mimicking a shifter, just to avoid the droning sound of constant engine speed, which some don't like (I would have preferred it). We can say the need for varying RPMs is artificial, but the basic sound is not.
The single long gear will engage only at constant speed, not during acceleration (not even at high speed)
What a fantastic review! Thanks Thomas. You should choose blue colour on this Civic ;)
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LOL re: "Crystal". For once in a long time I see a classic safe and tasty design from Honda. I like. Classy dash too. @Autogefühl thanks for the review.
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Danke dass du auch die Sounds bewertest. Es ist irgendwie ein kleines Ding, aber wenn der Sound der Tür beim Schließen gut klingt dann macht es einen doch glücklich :D
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Just a brilliant automotive piece by Honda, very measured product
Thomas you deserve Quote of the year @ 26.00 !!
very nice looking car
Another excellent review. Did I miss it or is there no B mode or, apparently, braking regeneration paddles? Is this a feature in other similar hybrids (they are of course in the C-RV and H-RV)? Have they somehow integrated those functions in this Civic drivetrain?
There are braking regen paddles in this car. You can sorta see them behind the steering wheel here or check other reviews. They talk about them
I'm wondering if Honda uses port injection for this engine? Surely direct injection would carbon up the valves and intakes in no time in this application - starting and stopping numerous times for sometimes short duration. Running a cold directly injected engine on/off on/off sounds like a recipe for maintenance problems.
Honda did a great job with new Civic. Great looks and superb dash/cabin. Shame about the high price and especially the greedy mark ups on Type-R version by dealers.
That crystal meth joke, with the laugh afterwards was priceless.
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What’s the ground clearance on this car like? Seems a little too low. Can it mount the kerb when parking in marked bays. And what about high speed bumps? Do you need to drive carefully, especially when the car is fully loaded?
130mm