Kim Stanley Robinson: Remembering climate change ... a message from the year 2071 | TED Countdown

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  • Coming to us from 60 years in the future, legendary sci-fi writer Kim Stanley Robinson tells the "history" of how humanity ended the climate crisis and restored the damage done to Earth's biosphere. A rousing vision of how we might unite to overcome the greatest challenge of our time.
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  • @priyashmukherjee
    @priyashmukherjee ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Kim Stanley Robinson is a renowned science fiction writer who has inspired and challenged readers for decades. His work explores complex topics such as climate change, space colonization, and the nature of consciousness, all while emphasizing the human potential to create a better world.
    Robinson's Mars trilogy, Red Moon, and New York 2140 are all classics that have won numerous awards and been praised by critics and readers alike. His work has had a profound impact on our culture and the way we think about the future, making him one of the most important and influential science fiction writers of our time.
    Thank you, Kim Stanley Robinson, for your vision, your insights, and your inspiration.
    *LOVE FROM INDIA*

  • @OlliHazard
    @OlliHazard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    There's this persistent idea that there is some level of catastrophe that will eventually knock some sense into everyone. In reality, the more cataclysmic things get, the crazier humans will become.

    • @eskilseter
      @eskilseter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Humans are terrible at detecting gradual change. Even though these changes are happening incredibly fast on a geologic time scale, individual humans are not noticing the change happening locally year to year. It's unfortunately going to have to get *really* bad before everyone realises what's going on.

    • @samikirk05
      @samikirk05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Too crazy already. Watching "protesters" at (Canadian) political rallies makes me despair. When I see people encouraging their children to scream obscenities and wave their middle fingers, I despair.

    • @nickromo8195
      @nickromo8195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eskilseter actually many are noticing at you to hear but either simply don't care or don't understand what these changes foreshadow about how much worse it will become for the entire planet. Many others just believe it's all completely natural even at this pace of change and there's nothing we can do about it so why bother trying. Humanity needs a wake up call I almost wish this virus had been slightly worse because it doesn't look like Corona is going to be that wake up call to bring us all together to face the serious problems we have on this planet. Maybe the second one this future guy just talked about really will be enough to push through the mass stupidity/denial.

    • @iDubito
      @iDubito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's not that simple. People will get crazier, but also more collaborative. Several polls show that people care about climate change more than ever.
      What we're likely to see is more collaboration, activism and action. Look at the emergence of Extinction Rebellion as an example, it's just the start.

    • @Al-nc2ys
      @Al-nc2ys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly! Lovely speech but saying people "learned" from the first pandemic and these "lessons" made the second easier is not how it's going down if a second pandemic hits. The conspiracy theorist will come out in full force and you'll have half the population injecting themselves with elephant tranquilizers to cure the virus instead of the new vaccine

  • @harshita1412
    @harshita1412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I will be back here in 2071, all of 79.. because a beautiful earth and kind humanity is my dream and I am not going to leave without living in one

    • @eel700
      @eel700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, you won't be 😉

    • @nathanwalker6360
      @nathanwalker6360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bloody 'ell I'll be 81. Here's to the best future for all!! Peace ✌

    • @ACo23675
      @ACo23675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like your moxie Harshita!

    • @lydiaflih8114
      @lydiaflih8114 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      let's say hi in 2071 !

    • @NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2
      @NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      98!!

  • @lzl4709
    @lzl4709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    2016:nations signed the Paris Agreement, everything seems to be on progress
    2021:no one talked about this agreement...
    Bruh

    • @devlogan2030
      @devlogan2030 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was very very unique its like Kim is remote viewing the future

  • @eggshen111
    @eggshen111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thank you for helping us envision a better future.

    • @akbarzib4117
      @akbarzib4117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what every totalitarian dictator thinks will happen, but all they do is create dystopian hellscapes full of slaves.

    • @eggshen111
      @eggshen111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@akbarzib4117 Yikes. I don't know if you've noticed but the dystopian hellscapes are well on their way if we merely stay the course (business as usual). We need radical change. And I'm grateful for KSR envisioning something intelligent and clear sighted. Knee-jerk negativity and fear-mongering over loss of personal liberty is cheap currency and lazy thinking. We live in a cooperative society and there are always negotiations around personal freedoms when we have the capacity to impact and influence each other by our proximity and connections. I don't complain about having to stop my car at stop signs even though I may be in a rush. It is an agreement I have made for the opportunity to be here and participate in society, and benefit from it.

  • @blahbleh5671
    @blahbleh5671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    smart man, incredible books, i recommend his mars trilogy if your scientifically minded and interested in terraforming and the associated social dynamics

    • @gasdive
      @gasdive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Science was pretty much abandoned in service of story telling, but very enjoyable.

    • @craftypam9992
      @craftypam9992 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favourite books!

    • @alanmcrae8594
      @alanmcrae8594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, one of my favorite trilogies as well.
      I also found New York 2140 interesting because it showed people adapting to sea level rise and to daily tidal flooding of lower Manhattan, Brooklyn, etc. People always try to find ways to adapt to any adverse changes in their environment, and modern technologies give us an even greater range of possibilities for implementing survival solutions.
      Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the best scifi writers on the planet right now.

  • @Alexander_Gorzen
    @Alexander_Gorzen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Yea! Let's create the Ministry for the Future!

  • @angelmujahid2233
    @angelmujahid2233 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is beautiful and wishful thinking.

  • @Peace2051
    @Peace2051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great summary and quite hopeful considering that the novel ended ambiguously. (There's a typo in the description. It should read 50 years.)

  • @HuyenNguyen-bb3cg
    @HuyenNguyen-bb3cg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Be hopeful! As this is the only thing in store for us now.

  • @요주아키미히-z8j
    @요주아키미히-z8j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “To be human means to care for each other and civilization means to work together to create a better life.” - film '2012'

  • @scottmasson3039
    @scottmasson3039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ironic watching a Ted Talk on climate change, and seeing all the Bitcoin ads in the comment section.

  • @Mysterus88
    @Mysterus88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any message in 2071 will start with "Hello, can anyone hear me?"

  • @TrueCrimeQueen
    @TrueCrimeQueen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love your content! Stay safe everyone 🌞🧚🏽

  • @koalaxx4130
    @koalaxx4130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow the more invested one becomes into this topic the more impossible it seems that we do indeed pull together to solve this problem. rip

    • @tetra.
      @tetra. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We’re all dead, might as well just accept it lol

  • @carolyng.6405
    @carolyng.6405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My new favorite bedtime story.

  • @adarsharyan6668
    @adarsharyan6668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really like the carbon coins idea.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here.
      To get people to keep carbon in the ground, or put it in the ground, we have to pay them.

  • @abdulazizelijahfanan1632
    @abdulazizelijahfanan1632 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ppl ignoring his call for socialism in the book are blind by choice

    • @calibby85
      @calibby85 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you not heard of socialist democracies? Heard of Sweden?

    • @chrisAN3681
      @chrisAN3681 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@calibby85Sweden is not socialist...

  • @paxundpeace9970
    @paxundpeace9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Talking about 2071 isn't solving it because many people just don't care about 2071.
    Because they don't plan to be alive then. 50 years into the future.
    We have to think about the climate implications of the next decade then people start to care.

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The opinions of people who do not even care about their own children, are not even worthy of consideration.
      These are actual killers we're talking about here. And not just normal killers, but killers of their own children too.

    • @bramvanduijn8086
      @bramvanduijn8086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you complaining about a science fiction writer writing science fiction? That seems silly.

    • @eameece
      @eameece 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was an innovative way to present the solutions and decisions we need to make now, and reminds us that we can make them. I HOPE!

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aylbdrmadison1051 boomers lived it up. NOW THEY WANT US TO SUFFER!

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bramvanduijn8086 This is predictive programming.

  • @thelaughingfoxx
    @thelaughingfoxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love this viewpoint, but I fear we will keep getting setbacks because of greedy Republicans not wanting change, but more money to line their pockets!

    • @eameece
      @eameece 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly so!

    • @singingtradsongs
      @singingtradsongs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the poor who pay for this communism, not the rich.

    • @eameece
      @eameece 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@singingtradsongs By subsidizing the rich fossil-fool CEOs through allowing this destruction, we are ALL paying for this corporate welfare communism.

    • @MrToadbait
      @MrToadbait 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I fear people will keep blaming each other and not looking at what we can do as individuals to come closer together and solve real problems. Democrats, republicans, most politicians around the world line their pockets. I am sure at some point you have lined your pockets as well. Get rid of the hatred in your heart for other people, no matter what they do. Just focus on fixing relationships in your own life and lead by example. I am more talking to myself than I am to you, but hopefully you get something out of it.

    • @eameece
      @eameece 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrToadbait If we hope for real progress, government and the state needs to be involved, which means it must be freed from Republican control. You don't seem to understand how far away Republicans are from supporting the progress we need. They are dead-set against this progress and it seems unlikely that they will change. The only change is that they become the minority enough in a protected democracy that they can't stop progress in its tracks as they have done for over 40 years now. Otherwise, we can hope for some rich corporate leaders to help move us beyond carbon-based industry and technology, but I don't think that will bring the changes we need fast enough. Leading by example and fixing our own relationships seems almost irrelevant to the scale of change needed.

  • @AustinMCraigDoesNeatStuff
    @AustinMCraigDoesNeatStuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The whole vision presented here is to save humanity and the globe through vast, sprawling geopolitical, bureaucratic administration, measurement, and central planning. Am I reading this right? How well has any of that worked in the past? How well is vast geopolitical coordination working right now? I would have taken Robinson as somebody more creative than this. It isn’t good retro-history, it’s bad fantasy. I believe in creative solutions, but I don’t think that looks like “more and bigger government!“

    • @searchindex3438
      @searchindex3438 ปีที่แล้ว

      In another video for a climate think tank he explained how he accidentally came up with the idea of the book by jamming incongruous factoids together
      and how the book’s unexpected popularity resulted in him being invited to COPS26 where he was unexpectedly given a pass to view negotiations that normally people wouldn’t be allowed into
      This meant that he was now privy to discussion of which he had no briefing or debriefing in and had no stake in …so he was talking things out of context
      In casually mingling with those people he began networking and started to notice that people who he would have assumed should have known about each other didn’t
      So he came up with this idea for a clarion call to mobilize concerted efforts
      But because he’s an english major and not a science major and because he hadn’t worked in the climate industry for the past 30 years he has zero clue about what is credible and what isn’t
      He has no idea that there have been government climate projects and non profit climate projects and private industry climate projects and academic climate projects that often have conflicts of interest that are often exacerbated via non networking as much as networking

  • @cosmicprison9819
    @cosmicprison9819 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this quoted directly from the book "Ministry for the Future"? Because I remember a similar passage from "Aurora", where the ship computer gives this kind of an info dump about the parameters of the mission, because it doesn't know how to write a compelling narrative - which the ship officers then proceed to scold the computer for. Yes, it may be a self-aware, 4th-wall-breaking joke, but it's ultimately just a cop-out if you can't find a way to weave all of this information into the story more organically, across time. (For example, in different dialogue scenes, which admittedly is a challenge, especially when trying to avoid "as you know, Bob" exchanges.)

  • @The_Lit
    @The_Lit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is good, the way to go future for our life

  • @skarzimabedi100
    @skarzimabedi100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    whats the name of the book and whence was it written ?

    • @avirichar4981
      @avirichar4981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pretty sure it's more a short story, and the name is in the title of the vid I think -- tho a book length extrapolation of all this could be fascinating

    • @louroboros
      @louroboros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ministry for the Future - it's a novel that was published in 2020. Kim Stanley Robinson (the reader in the video) is its author.

    • @skarzimabedi100
      @skarzimabedi100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@louroboros thank you sir

  • @phtonos3337
    @phtonos3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like the whole carbon coins thing is an attempt at making people start decarbonizing by now. If something moves people, it's money...

    • @Adam-Flint
      @Adam-Flint ปีที่แล้ว

      Not much is moving. GHG emissions were the highest ever in 2022, as high as 3 million years ago during the Pliocene before humans existed. The Earth average surface air was the hottest for 120 000 years in July 2023.
      "People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J. K. Galbraith.

  • @norahdickson7729
    @norahdickson7729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

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    • @johntheo3853
      @johntheo3853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      @morrisjane3299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @avirichar4981
    @avirichar4981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    this was excellent, right up to the last glitch, after so much accurate and inspiring science and finance and politics etc woven in, oopsing it by saying 60 years ago and dropping the basic-math ball a bit right at the end -- it'd be nice if we started in 2011, for sure tho!

    • @searchindex3438
      @searchindex3438 ปีที่แล้ว

      truth is stranger than fiction
      How’s this for dropping the math ball:
      In 2011 Congress ear marked $12M for the midlife re-fit of the El Niño buoy tender that was the US’s only climate vessel and listed as a ‘critical project’ (because it also serviced tsunami buoys which are used to upgrade and down grade earthquake warnings limiting the expense of problematic coastal evacuation)
      In 2012 President Obama was elected on the campaign promise of climate studies
      but his subsequent 2012 budget cuts accidentally inadvertently pulled the ship off line on short notice without him or the public knowing…and the ship was his home state’s asset
      Can’t have your climate cake and eat it too
      In 2020 Obama ironically had The Ministry of the Future on his reading list without realizing that the golden age of climate studies had ended when that ship was pulled off line in August of 2012
      How’s that for Aztec 2012 end times calendar prophecy?

    • @avirichar4981
      @avirichar4981 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@searchindex3438 been a year since specific context & details from this vid has been fresh on the brain...but other than the possibility you might be claiming numerology and math are the same thing (?) ...otherwise, sounds maybe about right?

  • @Novastar.SaberCombat
    @Novastar.SaberCombat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reflection is painful for those who have never practiced it. ✨✨✨
    🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
    "Before I start, I must see my end.
    Destination known, my mind's journey now begins.
    Upon my chariot, heart & soul's fate revealed.
    In Time, all points converge--hope's strength re-steeled.
    But to earn final peace before the Universe's endless refrain,
    We must see all in nothingness...
    ...before we start again!"
    🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
    -- Diamond Dragons (book 1)

  • @-RitzEnjoli
    @-RitzEnjoli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @dulynoted2427
    @dulynoted2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Does the United States have any concerted effort with any other countries, to hold the fossil fuel industries to clean up and have a neutral, separate entity to verify? And since global warming, is such a political football, shouldn't the focus be more about poisoning the air, earth and water?

    • @shadoe1769
      @shadoe1769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The biggest culprits of global warming, carbon emitting, fossil fuel burning countries are China and India, and no, no one, not America, the EU, or anyone else is holding them accountable.

    • @dulynoted2427
      @dulynoted2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shadoe1769 As much as I agree, that world leaders should come together, as well as focusing their efforts on their own efforts on clean and renewable energy, China, is growing their clean energy sectors faster than they have during their fossil fuel boom.

    • @MrMakabar
      @MrMakabar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shadoe1769 Absolutly not the case. The biggest current emitters are China, USA, India and the EU. But USA and EU both emitted green house gases in large scales for far longer, as they were the first to industrialize.
      Thats why the USA and EU agreed to lead the fight against climate change. The US is far behind the EU in that goal. Nowadays the EU has lower per capita emissions the China.
      Oh and the EU is planning tariffs for green house gas emissions for imported products.

    • @MrMakabar
      @MrMakabar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes that would the Paris Agreement. It is not exactly holding the fossil fuel industry responsible, but it includes a framework to evalute each countries contribution.
      Oh and every single country in the world has signed that. So global warming itself is agreed on to be a problem by everybody. It is just that the US is behaving like a toddler.

    • @shadoe1769
      @shadoe1769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrMakabar And the Paris agreement is a completely non-binding agreement. Plenty of countries signed it with no intention of ever cutting emissions, and some, like China and Indian, are actually allowed to increase their emissions under the agreement. So why does it matter what a country has done in the past? I thought this was supposed to be about changing the world in the future, for the future. When you allow some countries to increase their emissions, while insisting that others cut, you're accomplishing nothing.

  • @YTCrazytieguy
    @YTCrazytieguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best way individuals have to make this future real is donating to effective climate change organizations, such as founders pledge climate change fund. A small percentage of people donating a small percentage of their income should be enough to cascade and cause the global change that we desperately need!

  • @TennesseeJed
    @TennesseeJed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hindsight is 2020, heh!

    • @TennesseeJed
      @TennesseeJed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think creating yet another competitive currency based on carbon capture will cause another market used to devalue most while enriching a few.

  • @renepaquin8940
    @renepaquin8940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good luck everyone.✌🏻✌🏼✌✌🏽✌🏾✌🏿🙏

  • @jordanstrasser5243
    @jordanstrasser5243 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you!!!

  • @jf5016
    @jf5016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mr. Stanley, I loved your Mars series. I suspect you feel that the human race should not metastasize to other worlds...

  • @priyeshpandey2446
    @priyeshpandey2446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now we can just try don't know what faith mother earth has decided for us because lungs of earth are already burning.

  • @brbertram
    @brbertram 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Word. Solemn word.

  • @AquariusNation777
    @AquariusNation777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video

  • @jumboegg5845
    @jumboegg5845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i enjoyed listening to his optimistic viewpoint, but it is naturally "first-world-centric". To be "in balance with the biosphere" implies the first world is willing to forego a large proportion of its great wealth and luxury to support the well-being of the vast majority of world's population not in this group. I use the term "first-world" loosely, to include all those who have the time and inclination to contemplate these worldly matters. Those not in this group are all the people in the world who's number one preoccupation is putting food on the table every night. How many are in this latter group? I would think 85% of the world's population is not far from the mark. Do we really believe that a "balanced biosphere" can support this vast and ever-increasing human population? I like to say that climate change is not the problem, it is a symptom. Yes climate change (and related factors) is one serious symptom, but there are many other symptoms of the problem throughout the world.

    • @Flyzguy
      @Flyzguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you read Ministry for the future you'll see the oil execs, bankers, etc.. first world people profit greatly from the carbon coin. They don't have to sacrifice.

    • @Adam-Flint
      @Adam-Flint ปีที่แล้ว

      Optimism and pessimism are subjective and have nothing to do with reality. They may be, either of them, the tone of a conclusion, but not the beginning of a reasoning. We should always begin with facts. It is tricky when falsehoods are mixed with facts, and the end of this book is dead wrong, giving a false sense of security and ignoring elephants in the room.

    • @jumboegg5845
      @jumboegg5845 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Adam-Flint When you call out the elephant(s) in the room it is usual to name it (them). That's the whole point, we cant see it.

    • @Adam-Flint
      @Adam-Flint ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These elephants, that would be a very long post. To name a few (there are many more): most of the scientific community is very concerned about pumping aerosols into the atmosphere, more pollution, with unknown high risks on the climate and on life itself, when the large presence of aerosols in the atmosphere (the global dimming effect) is already problematic.
      The complete obliteration in the book of the political context in the USA with Republicans who could very well return to presidential power, all-in for more CO2 and methane emissions-a major axis of their program actually-is another elephant in the room, no pun intended. (Trump today would be elected hands down according to every poll. In US politics, thanks to the Electioral College system and urban demographics; a majority of 3% for the Democratic candidate means the assured election of the Republican).
      Virtuous India with regard to the environment is an elepantesque laugh. One can dream.
      After 30 years of IPCC meetings and promises, an all-record high of GHG emissions was measured in 2022, and all governments still promise more growth to their population. Talking about growth, these last years the annual global GDP growth was about 3%, and 3% is the global proportion of solar and wind energy. One year of GDG growth eats that "benefit" entirely for our atmosphere. For there is actually no benefit; clean energy is a myth. As it takes more and more oil (and money) to produce oil (all the "easy to tap" oil is gone), it takes a heck of a lot of oil and and a heck of a lot of limited amouts of minerals to make car batteries, solar panels, and wind turbines.
      Virtuous California! I read that KSR lived in Califonia, it is hardly believable. California is the least sustainable model I know: big cities with as good as no public transportation and huge subburbs; you can't even buy food without a car, and electric vehicule? Well, see three lines above; competely unsustainable, industial agriculture in the big plain; the epitome of the squander culture; buy, use, and toss very quickly. I see no sign of any of this changing, except some legislation for these so called "green energies." With all the fossil fuels for mining, transporting, refining, retransporting, assembling, retransporting and delivering, plus all the fossil fuels being prerequisites do do all these things. How was made the monster excavator in the mine? How do the workers go to work? How was made the first ship, the second ship, the container ship? How much plastic is used in the whole process? How much energy computers and electronics use throughout the whole process, mostly fossil fuel-powered in the end? The list is infinite and all made of oil, not solar, not wind. And then the electricity through the whole process, essentially powered by fossil fuels.
      Almost no word about ecosystem feedback loops in the book (hardly, see ch. 36), and the book proceeds as if these have no effect at all on the climate, just as the IPCC ignores them. Elephant much!
      And 50 years, really? As if we have a wealth of time to solve a pile of humongous poblems, not having even started to reduce GHG emissions in this real world, and when the UN Secreatry says, "The damage already being caused by climate change is making our planet uninhabitable.” @@jumboegg5845

  • @NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2
    @NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder what he thinks of the 40°C+ record temperature in England in '23?!

  • @invox9490
    @invox9490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is all very optimistic... I don't believe we'll make it to 2050.

    • @Flyzguy
      @Flyzguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up and get out of the way then, some of us are going to rage against the dying light and go down fighting for our only home.

  • @harveytheparaglidingchaser7039
    @harveytheparaglidingchaser7039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Grimm's fairy tales the good guys always win. Let's hope so

  • @eternalskeptic
    @eternalskeptic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's funny because it completely ignores the nuclear war of 2023...

  • @nurlatifahmohdnor8939
    @nurlatifahmohdnor8939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tq

  • @ergineses6912
    @ergineses6912 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congs. U read very well

  • @anyrank1253
    @anyrank1253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great 👍👍

  • @cosmicprison9819
    @cosmicprison9819 ปีที่แล้ว

    Full employment means an end to poverty? I'd wager there are generations of slaves in regimes all across the globe who would beg to differ on that...

  • @Samjix
    @Samjix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe this message!

  • @KxoxoG59
    @KxoxoG59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reading these comments really shows how Fcked we are.

  • @Adam-Flint
    @Adam-Flint ปีที่แล้ว

    I have mixed feelings about the book. Many qualities: I like the dispersed format of the story, some aspects of the style, some useful reminders such as "climate change is real and caused by humans," or "we are in the sixth mass extinction," or "this is the Jevons paradox." But too many things are plain wrong. Chapter 56 in the book: "The US and several other big countries had withdrawn from the court’s jurisdiction (The Intertnational Criminal Court of The Hague) after negative rulings against their citizens." whereas in our real world: "The General Assembly (of the UN) convened a conference in Rome in June 1998, with the aim of finalizing the treaty to serve as the Court's statute. On 17 July 1998, the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court was adopted by a vote of 120 to seven, with 21 countries abstaining. The seven countries that voted against the treaty were China, Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, the U.S., and Yemen." Quite another reality...
    Chapter 55 in the book, writing about France: ...the Commune of 1848... No. The Revolution of 1848 (the third one) from February 22 to February 24, 1848, led to the abdication of King Louis Philippe and to the foundation of the Second Republic. The Commune was in France a Parisian insurrection against the Third Republic, from March 18 to May 28, 1871. The two are never confused, neither in French nor in English.
    When you know Switzerland, it is kind of hilarious to see it portrayed as a welcoming country for refugees, and in Chapter 47, you might be led to believe that the Swiss banking industry is an old thing of the past that has little to do with Swiss prosperity (LOL). And about Germany and France, chapter 50: "...the rest of the world was irrelevant, or at most instruments to be used." What should one say, then, maybe, about the USA? About China? etc.
    But the worst thing is the substance of the book. The reader might be led to believe that, yes, the climate situation is very, very bad (it starts like that in Chapter 1), but don't you worry too much, "clean energy", geoengineering and human goodwill will save us... in some decades, when many scientists today estimate we may have already crossed irreversible tipping points, when James Hansen writes "Eventual global warming due to today's GHG forcing alone - after slow feedbacks operate - is about 10°C." An increase of 5°C is generally considered beyond the point of extinction for humans. So false hope not based in reality is noxious, an anesthesic against action. Really, this is the only kind of book our contemporary fiction literature has to offer other than apocalyptic/survivalist, Rambo type, or stupid zombie series?
    At the most defining time in human history, maybe the end of humanity, I'd like to give this excerpt of "Where is the fiction about climate change" by Amitav Ghosh, in The Guardian (the whole article is online and worth reading).
    "In a substantially altered world, when sea-level rise has swallowed the Sundarbans and made cities such as Kolkata, New York and Bangkok uninhabitable, when readers and museum-goers turn to the art and literature of our time, will they not look, first and most urgently, for traces and portents of the altered world of their inheritance? And when they fail to find them, what can they do other than to conclude that ours was a time when most forms of art and literature were drawn into the modes of concealment that prevented people from recognising the realities of their plight? Quite possibly, then, this era, which so congratulates itself on its self-awareness, will come to be known as the time of the Great Derangement."
    As global warming and overshoot don't happen in a vacuum but are descending on our society with politics, here is an excerpt from "Parable of the Talents" by Octavia Butler (1998):
    "Jarret was inaugurated today.
    We listened to his speech-short and rousing. Plenty of “America, America, God shed his grace on thee,” and “God bless America,” and “One nation, indivisible, under God,” and patriotism, law, order, sacred honor, flags everywhere, Bibles everywhere, people waving one of each. His sermon-because that’s what it was-was from Isaiah, Chapter One. “Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate as overthrown by strangers.”
    Adam Fint, author of "Mona."

  • @NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2
    @NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why 60 years though? He's in 2071 talking about the 2020's. 50 years and less surely?

  • @CRAFTYCREATIONS60
    @CRAFTYCREATIONS60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After taking the blue pill.

  • @TheDoomWizard
    @TheDoomWizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too bad we won't live for much longer after 2030. I cover this in great detail on my channel.

  • @ankkymangal2734
    @ankkymangal2734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sci-fi

  • @PVCanciu
    @PVCanciu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    2071-2020 does not equal 60 years. Do we get so bad at maths in the next 50 years? 🤣

    • @fishinghuntingfool
      @fishinghuntingfool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wish that’s all we had to worry about 😡

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2021 actually but had 60 years in my mind too.

    • @CrotalusHH
      @CrotalusHH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ARGH. Maths is not a word!

  • @leviefrauim1425
    @leviefrauim1425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man's understanding of science expands by leaps and bounds every decade, every year. But when fear-mongers continue to spread the type of drivel such as climate change, it only continues to fuel that fear. I have more faith in my fellow man to figure out solutions rather than just forever focus on problems.

  • @samschmit7181
    @samschmit7181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That can't be right! There's no such thing as time travel!

  • @Masada1911
    @Masada1911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Oh good, I wasn’t aware about climate change.

    • @eel700
      @eel700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂👍

    • @tetra.
      @tetra. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reject sustainability, return to monke.

  • @jasonmcphee
    @jasonmcphee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pricing pollution is a good step. But assumptions like full employment and planners being able to know rates at which carbon would have been used and sumilar are magical thinking. Pricing carbon (pollution in this case) is not as easy as it sounds, but this should be the narrow scope of government on the problem. Once a price is established, the market will divine the most efficient solutions.

  • @geovanniali6060
    @geovanniali6060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We are the only species with the power to destroy the earth and also the capacity to protect it. His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama.

    • @eel700
      @eel700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both statements are false.

    • @tetra.
      @tetra. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both statements are true, but it obviously doesn’t make any difference. You don’t REALLY care about it, I can see that from this comment. Stop pretending.

    • @eel700
      @eel700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tetra. We, the species, cannot destroy The Earth, it's simply too big. Now, tomorrow we detect an asteroid going to collide with The Earth and kill Us The Species in one year, what can we do?
      Get real.

    • @geovanniali6060
      @geovanniali6060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tetra. Thank you tetra.

  • @zydian_
    @zydian_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People are trash. Care for the ones you love and enjoy your life with those people while you still can, dont waste time with others.

  • @naushadansari4326
    @naushadansari4326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hii sir

  • @christinearmington
    @christinearmington 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New research suggests that the critical wet bulb temperature 🤒 may be as low as 31C. India has some areas April-May reaching 60 C., or 140*+F. 😳🥵💀

    • @searchindex3438
      @searchindex3438 ปีที่แล้ว

      consider the 50 50 50 rule of thumb of hypothermia
      In 50F water for 50 mins …50% chance of living or dying
      it’s the same sort of thing for hyper thermia and wet bulb you either survive it or you don’t and there are more variables than can be calculated

  • @AaL90000
    @AaL90000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “…a message from the year 2071”

  • @ashmitrajsingh_9127
    @ashmitrajsingh_9127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good

    • @eel700
      @eel700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha

    • @abhistraj5732
      @abhistraj5732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eel700 lol 🤣👍 u r replying to everyone

    • @eel700
      @eel700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abhistraj5732 nope.

  • @thomasdarling2553
    @thomasdarling2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hear Climate Science is a really hot discipline right now.

  • @KAjo07
    @KAjo07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice fairytale :D i see different scenarios but we will see

  • @giaco362
    @giaco362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:16

    • @giaco362
      @giaco362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      0:28

    • @giaco362
      @giaco362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      0:26

    • @giaco362
      @giaco362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      0:24

  • @ricknoll
    @ricknoll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As he reads from a book... maybe you should read from "A Dark Wood" instead.

    • @Pantouflor
      @Pantouflor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean "In a dark , dark wood" the gothic horror story from Ruth Ware? I do not see the relation.

  • @정솜결
    @정솜결 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    영상감사합니다ㆍ솜결

  • @TheTeaParty320
    @TheTeaParty320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The liquid dinosaurs in your car’s fuel tank is the best solar storage battery in the entire universe.

    • @JW4REnvironment
      @JW4REnvironment ปีที่แล้ว

      What? Do you mean liquid fossil algae? Petroleum was marketed with a dinosaur but it’s buried deposits of plankton and algae that gave us petroleum is it not? Maybe Google it if that’s a question?

  • @davmac6148
    @davmac6148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MESSAGE FROM 2072 : Was the year 2924 the first real Democracy finally becomes a reality. The privilege of creating and issuing money becomes not only the supreme prerogative of Governments, but the Governments greatest creative opportunity. By the adoption of these principles, the long-felt want for a uniform medium was satisfied. The taxpayers saved immense sums of interest, discounts and exchanges inflation becomes a problem of the past. The financing of all public enterprises, the maintenance of stable government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury finally become only matters of practical administration. The people have been furnished with a currency as safe as their own governments. Money no longer master, becomes for the first time in Human history, servant of humanity and good sense. This is how Democracy begun and was risen superior to the private interests. No longer people forced to compete against each other for private money, no more bankruptcy, no longer terrorism and with the introduction of the Universal Basic Income the problem of poverty was finally solved, free and abundant clean energy made available for everyone.

  • @emilsinclair6202
    @emilsinclair6202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wont happen. Things will go from bad to worse. The feedback loop is already in action.

  • @Travel-Rizma
    @Travel-Rizma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    TED
    TED
    Thank you very.
    O, TED
    O, Please
    help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee .. !
    Thank you
    Thank you
    Thank you very much
    TED
    O, TED
    O, from my heart: I LoveYou.

  • @tsutomusakamoto
    @tsutomusakamoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @DinoMan_6
    @DinoMan_6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah…

  • @Mysterus88
    @Mysterus88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's utopian to hear the global community has agreed that few countries will be paid for not doing what they might have been doing wrongfully. Although the general concept seems not totally wrong. Brazil definitely should get paid to stop deforestation.
    When will we finally realise, there isn't a risk of ecosystems collapsing. There is no fish around Europe, almost no animals. SEA, China, India. We are not facing ecosystems collapse. We are discussing monetary incentives to save the few last ones.

  • @bernzeppi
    @bernzeppi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Methinks this work of fiction is overly optimistic.

  • @timbush7850
    @timbush7850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a load of, FICTION !

    • @jum4ngie
      @jum4ngie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s only fiction to those who don’t understand what’s happening.

  • @spexi513
    @spexi513 ปีที่แล้ว

    😢 this added oomph to the hope in my heart regarding CC, but not enough to remove my doubts that corporat3 gr33d will check itself.
    Excellent video, thank you.

  • @lydiaflih8114
    @lydiaflih8114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fingers crossed ahah

  • @markschuette3770
    @markschuette3770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don't like the "carbon coin" route- you have to have a carbon tax to generate the funds- and i'm OK with that- BUT why return that money- seems like a wasted step and a slowdown! spend it directly/quickly on the cleaner alternatives- like mass transit, bike paths, elec. bike paths, affordable elec. vehicles, rewilding range land, solar building design, energy conservations efforts like insulation, and or course free PV panels for the roof, etc.

    • @Flyzguy
      @Flyzguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't have to have a tax to generate the funds anymore than you have to mine gold to print more US dollars.

    • @markschuette3770
      @markschuette3770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Flyzguy how else do you motivate people to conserve energy than by making it expensive???

    • @Flyzguy
      @Flyzguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markschuette3770 Sorry for the confusion - I wasn't talking about motivating individuals, just the creation of a new currency. You mentioned the need for a carbon tax, with the new carbon coin there would just be a new currency created based in carbon sequestration instead of nothing (the current dollar) or some other scarce resource (like gold)

  • @elinope4745
    @elinope4745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am happy that this is fiction. There are no time travelers who send letters back in time. They got to talk fiction when they talk climate change, either that or admit that the climate has always been changing.

  • @christiansoldier1547
    @christiansoldier1547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know why he didn't mention America ?? it's because we kept our right to defend ourselves and fought off the tyranny !!!

  • @seabird6744
    @seabird6744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    a Fairy tale with too many , Pay , Paid , Money words. Got one as well for us : Life or Death ?, END of story.

  • @DavidSanchez-vx4bv
    @DavidSanchez-vx4bv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a nice Fictional tale....

  • @TheTeaParty320
    @TheTeaParty320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This must be a liberal art trick.

  • @sofimango8651
    @sofimango8651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🧸

  • @RoelCandaeleARTISTSPAGE
    @RoelCandaeleARTISTSPAGE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time fly 🤣🤣🤣

  • @RichieDubbz
    @RichieDubbz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In b4 im propagandized

  • @gordtaylor1538
    @gordtaylor1538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How come the expected temperature rise in the troposphere as predicted by the climate models has not been observed? In fact, the observed slight rise in temperature is now below the lowest expected levels as predicted by modeling. The longer we go the farther apart the model predictions and observation become. And yet we have the IPPC report, that acknowledges this reality, blames the observations instead of the modeling. Does that not sound anti science? You are supposed to make a claim and then go see if your claim is true. If its not you alter your claim but the IPCC says the modeling is not the problem, it's the observations. If we can't trust the observations that don't align with your claim then how do we know if the troposphere is warming at all?
    There is no climate emergency.
    Climate change is real but there is no evidence to support Anthropogenic climate change.
    Don't be a sheep, although the sheep is afraid of the wolf it is the Sheppard that eats the sheep.

  • @Yithmaster
    @Yithmaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is super cringe bru

  • @mrs.r.d3878
    @mrs.r.d3878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lies

  • @PaulsMotoZen
    @PaulsMotoZen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The glaciers on Mars are still melting, and we had nothing to do with it.

  • @christiansoldier1547
    @christiansoldier1547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    total crap fiction

    • @sharpienate
      @sharpienate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Says the "soldier" taking marching orders from iron age cult fan fiction.

  • @paddy654
    @paddy654 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reading the book now, not easy reading, maybe because it is not all SciFi..😢😢😢.Anyway won’t be here by then..so why bother😂😂😂😂

  • @michaelvickers8691
    @michaelvickers8691 ปีที่แล้ว

    ROFLMAO

  • @BliffleSplick
    @BliffleSplick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only things were as easy as previous studies implied - the soil doesn't hold onto carbon as much as previously thought.

  • @biggentallen
    @biggentallen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a silly fictional story.

    • @JiraDiraDoo
      @JiraDiraDoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope this is ironic

    • @KxoxoG59
      @KxoxoG59 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      One day you’ll be eating those words.

    • @biggentallen
      @biggentallen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KxoxoG59 are you supposing he is a prophet or are you a prophet?

    • @KxoxoG59
      @KxoxoG59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@biggentallen neither. But change is happening already and it’s ignorant to ignore that.

    • @jodhpullela6993
      @jodhpullela6993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KxoxoG59 at the rate we’re going that might be the only thing the dude has to eat