The poor parents are and will always be hurting, more so, because of the L.L. flat earther's bleating that letby is innocent. I just wish they would consider these poor families when they write things online in Lucy's defence.
A hunch would have been enough in Florida and other places that have a better working structure. The problem was the structure, and I hope changes have been made so that employees can speak out.
I recommend watching the channel "Crime Scene 2" , there is an exact analysis and the inquiry. Lucy Letby wasn't the scapegoat, but yes: The hospital tried saving its reputation by protecting her after the first murder(s) by telling the doctors and nurses who spoke (up) about what's happened, to stay quiet and threatened to fire them if they talk about this publicly. I think, one of the Doctors even got fired. Yes, we know that things are bad in health care systems around the world, but there is much more to this case, which is Lucy Letby's personality disorder.
His videos in the past few months are only the prosecution side which by its nature has its own bias, and it has more interpretation than fact. But if that's your thing, fine.
@@d-rex8223 Then watch HG Tudor, he analysed her personality..I was able to relate immediately, I've been exposed to sadistic Narcissists for 50 of my 52 years on this planet.
And what do you think her personality disorder is exactly? Have you heard an expert forensic psychologist explain the motivation behind her alleged crimes?
@SuperBoomslang She's a Narcissist with a high level in psychopathy, very sadistic to get the attention and take over control. You know- so called experts have misdiagnosed me so many times, so called experts didn't see through my abuser's facades. I've been there, that's worth so much more than people just not getting it because they are only seeing a facade.
Heartbreaking and absolutely eye opening to hear so much more from the parents. It all leads to suspicious behaviour from Lucy at the very least. Breaks ur heart listening to the parents testimony and guilt they feel ❤
There seemed to be a major problem with hygiene in the Hospital with leaking sewage pipes especially in and near the baby units bacteria and harmful pathogens were found to be present.The Hospital was 10% above any other hospital nationwide for stillbirths ,and some mothers after giving birth developed infections.All within this same time frame,Coincidence???
How exactly does one instance of sewage cause babies to die over the course of a whole year? And how exactly does it cause them to die with symptoms that don't fit with infection?
I don’t understand why she had thousands of notes , confidential notes of patients in her home 🤷🏻♀️ I was a nurse for 40 years & would never save notes in my home re patients. I have never ever looked them up on social media either !! It’s all very bizarre behaviour from LL
Maybe if you thought you were being bullied ? Or even framed ? That could explain all of this. Extremely high stress levels can cause people to do strange things. It doesn't necessarily mean they are a serial killer. Anyway most of the documents were handover sheets.
Not thousands, and that has been explained. And I assume you didn't have social media in your day - young people use it much differently than you'd expect. None of this is proof of murder.
Sure the doctors are hardly going to say we can't understand what happened it's due to a complex range of factors. Giving the parents a single silver bullet explanation solves a lot of problems at once.
It also protects the NHS from claims and more importantly covers up failings that I suspect are typical of every hospital accross the land. Imagine how many parents of dead child would begin questioning things if it came out every hospital has similar problems. It would be the biggest scandal in the NHS's history. Imagine the public backlash, the claims, the culpability etc.
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Are you aware that there is an inquiry ongoing that seven days in has already exposed multiple failures at multiple levels? *If* - big if - they thought a scapegoat would solve their problems they were very much mistaken.
@@arfurascii2232 Are you aware how misdirection works, its all about damage control. Sure they'll be an investigation but now the main villain is locked away it's simply an infotmality, a tick box exercise. Similar to MP peed dough scandals. Sacrifice some low level or minimally involved players to cover the bigger picture, hide the real players. Pretend it was a couple of "bad apples" and now all sorted.
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Again, the inquiry has been running for only seven days so far yet a ton of awful stuff has come out already. If this is their misdirection I would hate to see their direction.
Will Alison Timmis's email to the Chief Executive be raised? "Things are stretched thinner and thinner and are at breaking point. When things snap, the casualties will either be children's lives or the mental and physical health of our staff." (Dec 2015) Also, the presence of a fatal bacteria and backed up sewage? Scapegoat?
A conviction without a motive, any direct evidence, and dodgy misrepresentation of statistical data is bad enough: But so many other questions remain as to the validity of this prosecuted, that there is no doubt she will ultimately face a retrial in the interest of justice. And she may well be innocent as she claims.
Im glad there are others that think like this - I am on the fence over it but more and more leaning towards her innocence - and if so, my word, that poor girl, its just horrific for her - if she is innocent then she was clearly struggling emotionally even before she was accused - and I could well see it being the case that even if she was guilty, it having arisen from a horrible breakdown having been utterly unsupported in dealing with the responsibilities of an understaffed ward and the emotional burden of such work at a relativelly young age. The enquiry ought at least to include how they allowed LL to get to that stage in herself - it is intriguing that there has been hardly any headlines around how could suc a person as her be lead to do such things as those - only that, unlike any other major killing case in history, there is no sign whatsoever to be seen in retrospect of having some considerable quirk
Just like in the 1500s, a hunch was often enough to uncover a case of witchcraft. This could be as small a thing as owning cats or living next to a cemetery, both of which were true of Lucy.
If that girl is innocent, my heart absolutely bleeds for her - that is the cruelest scapegoating possible. There was no definitive proof and there was a lot else wrong with that hospital. The NHS is saturated with a scape-goating and arse-covering ethos. It galls me to see the thumbnails and headlines that write it as a proven given. She is convicted but it is clear that it is still 'alleged' and 'suspected.' The hospital was clearly negligent in itself in so many areas and it is not right to emphasise Letby's guilt taking the heat off those running the hospital who must have their negligences pulled into the light and held to account
well now its officially "proven" so now your heart can "bleed" instead for the babies whose lives were snuffed out for no reason and for those left severely disabled not to mention the parents traumatised and the actual professional doctors and nurses who were gaslit and "hurt" by her because they are the ones you need to be concerned for - not to mention the 12 jurors who sat for over 9 months and gave their time, attention and dedication for lucy and the state.
Stop calling the parents' testimony "evidence" as if it's somehow "evidence" that Lucy is guilty of murder, it's just testimony of stuff that happened. Not evidence of anything. Other than "evidence" of Lucy being at work, for work purposes, doing work things. As far as i know, she's never denied being at work, working.
I suspect this was a mistrial. At the time the internal and external investigations did not identify a murder. The only reason this went further is because a group of doctors had subjective concerns. None of the medical or statistical evidence stacks up and things have been presented as a sign of guilt which when you look closer don't indicate this at all
@philipholding Narcissism, sadistic.HG Tudor has analysed her and Crime Scene 2 has taken part in the trial and put all the evidence on his channel. Personally I've lived with people like her. They seem kind and they use plausible deniability which makes it hard to put a finger on their abuse and the crimes they committ.
Any self respecting psychologist would refrain from expressing an opinion on anyone they have not met or spoken to. It is disrespectful and unprofessional and their main interest is self publicity.
A Bayesian analysis showed the chances of a spike in 2015-16 at ANY Trust was between 32% and 40%. Add to that figure the chronic understaffing, clinical errors by junior doctors, sewage issues and upgrading of CoCH to L2, and the figure approaches 100%.
@@John-p7i5gno baby died of infection which they were implying was the significance of blocked drains on only two occasions. Most places I’ve worked are understaffed (was this proven or anecdotal? I genuinely don’t know) but they don’t have the death rates this place did.
@@NowledgeableKnurse There was a spike across the country during that period. And the year before, another Trust's neonatal ward (I believe it was Sherwood Forest but don't quote me on that) had nearly double the number of deaths. True but I don't think having a pathogen filled environment helped matters, and may have exacerbated some of the babies' conditions.
I'm just asking the question, not suggesting anything. But is it in the parents financial interest for Lucy to be guilty? Do they receive some sort of victim compensation or other financial compensation from the hospital if their baby is deemed to have been murdered over dying of natural causes?
@@janlittle2148 no, the parents have nothing to lie about, i'm just wondering why they seem to object to the notion that she's innocent and their babies died of natural causes. None of the parents have ever said they saw her do anything wrong.
@@janlittle2148 It is not wicked to ask a simple factual question. The questioner said nothing about the parents lying. You said that. It is wicked to witch hunt innocent people.
She started working on the ward in Jan 2015 and there were no deaths until June, despite the fact that there were 4 deaths in 2014 and 4 deaths in 2013, before she was there. Yet here it is said that 'suspicions were first raised in June 2015'. The very first death to happen under her watch and she is suspected of being involved. They didn't waste any time getting the witch hunt going did they?
@@lennymice2261 not as a qualified neonatal specialist, responsible for looking after the most vulnerable babies, that began in 2015, but there were no deaths until June.
@@SuperBoomslang 2012 is when she was a fully qualified nurse on the unit. She had been at the unit since 2011, but first as a student. Then her first presence on the unit as a fully qualified nurse was 2012. She was at that point a band 5 nurse, and remained a band 5 nurse throughout her time there, right up until being moved off the unit in 2016. She never got any higher than that. There were many band 6 nurses on the unit. They were both more qualified than Lucy, and more experienced than Lucy. She was not some super highly qualified nurse in charge of the sickest babies. In fact, for a lot of the attacks in the case and for several of the babies in the case, she wasn't even the designated nurse for those babies at the time of the attacks. The allegations against her weren't based on some coincidence of her being the one responsible for their care all the time. You are right that she did do some training that qualified her to work with intensive care babies though. It's just that she had no particular monopoly over being the one assigned to them, with her being assigned sicker babies than other nurses, or assigned sick babies more often than other nurses. And this training concluded in March or April 2015 according to Lucy herself at the trial. Not January. Then there were 4 attacks in June, 3 of which resulted in deaths. That's why it was suspicious. Because it wasn't just her first death. It was her first, second and third death, all within a matter of weeks. A whole year's worth of deaths in one month. And a collapse of a 4th baby as well as the 3 deaths. And with all 4 of those babies' deaths and collapses being unexpected and unexplained.
@@d-rex8223 “Aww no. Poor Lucy 🥲 That must be terrible for you. You’re having such a dreadful time of it. If there’s anything I can do….” Attention seeker, who has to lie through her teeth to feel “special”
I only ask because most of the sites doubting the conviction are sufficiently respectful to the parents, not to make money out their tragedy. They don’t monetise their videos with adverts. Why don’t you do the same, out of respect? Or are you banking on the parents not noticing this.
@@John-p7i5g Both. It is not unusual for a guilty person to contradict themselves in written notes due to psychological stressors and cognitive dissonance
We have been told that the notes were written as a response to a therapist telling Letby to write down her subjective feelings. As a trained counselor, I must point out that such thoughts may not reflect reality, merely Letby's irrational mental state.
Newsflash! women exaggerate. Not a crime... yet, but then again with Kier you never know. Coming soon. Lol what is she suggesting, please examine every nurse/doctors personal text messages every day just incase one of them exaggerates something to someone else.. Interesting though, we didn't hear testimony of the father in this clip, maybe he was crying... maybe the wife was somewhere else so missed it. Why are we hearing from the wife about how the husband did or didn't react? and who cares if he cried or not, men often deny crying...
A hunch is irrelevant. The parents are too emotional to see things clearly. My mother died in hospital, completely unexpectedly. I interviewed the doctors and nurses, convinced that they hadn't done their jobs properly. It's human nature to look for answers and for somebody to blame. The reality is that nobody did anything wrong. Hunches and feelings shouldn't be taken as evidence of wrongdoing.
Your comparing your mother I’m going guess elderly to new born babies some who was ready to go home one weighing 6.7lbs Total opposite ends of the spectrum
Okay here's a complex reasoning problem. The prosecutor's fallacy is a form of logical fallacy. It consists of assuming, incorrectly, that the probability of guilt given a particular set of evidence is the same thing as the probability of a particular set of evidence given guilt. Those two concepts are actually separate. For example, if a prosecutor says to a defendant, "There was a study of 5000 guilty people who definitely committed this type of crime - they were convicted and eventually acknowledged their guilt. Here is an evidentiary feature that appeared in 99.9 percent of those 5000 people. Your case has that feature. Therefore there is a 99.9 percent probability that you are guilty." That is not true. The 99.9 percent statistic is based on knowing for certain that people are guilty. It is irrelevant to a situation where guilt is uncertain. It can't be used to resolve uncertainty about guilt because it only applies to situations where there is no uncertainty about guilt. Discuss the ways in which the Countess of Chester Hospital paediatricians' allegations against Lucy Letby, the police investigation into Lucy Letby, the trial of Lucy Letby, and the UK media coverage of the Lucy Letby story illustrate the logical fallacy known as the prosecutor's fallacy.
This is nothing but demon possession. Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Matthew 10:1 ESV
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a lip filler ad isnt ideal to start and set the tone for this
or any ad really
You’re right but they don’t care. Neither do they care about the victims of this case. All they care about is making a podcast to generates an income.
I agree, highly inappropriate
Lip filler are disgusting ful stop. Could of been at least a bereavement advert with phone number for anyone who needs it 😢
Excellent work allowing the voices of the parents to be heard.
My heart breaks for each & every one. 😞
The poor parents are and will always be hurting, more so, because of the L.L. flat earther's bleating that letby is innocent. I just wish they would consider these poor families when they write things online in Lucy's defence.
A hunch would have been enough in Florida and other places that have a better working structure. The problem was the structure, and I hope changes have been made so that employees can speak out.
um Maya Kowalski?
@@potr6461 I don’t know who she is. Part of the problem , I take it?
I recommend watching the channel "Crime Scene 2" , there is an exact analysis and the inquiry. Lucy Letby wasn't the scapegoat, but yes: The hospital tried saving its reputation by protecting her after the first murder(s) by telling the doctors and nurses who spoke (up) about what's happened, to stay quiet and threatened to fire them if they talk about this publicly. I think, one of the Doctors even got fired. Yes, we know that things are bad in health care systems around the world, but there is much more to this case, which is Lucy Letby's personality disorder.
His videos in the past few months are only the prosecution side which by its nature has its own bias, and it has more interpretation than fact. But if that's your thing, fine.
@@d-rex8223 Then watch HG Tudor, he analysed her personality..I was able to relate immediately, I've been exposed to sadistic Narcissists for 50 of my 52 years on this planet.
And what do you think her personality disorder is exactly? Have you heard an expert forensic psychologist explain the motivation behind her alleged crimes?
@SuperBoomslang She's a Narcissist with a high level in psychopathy, very sadistic to get the attention and take over control. You know- so called experts have misdiagnosed me so many times, so called experts didn't see through my abuser's facades. I've been there, that's worth so much more than people just not getting it because they are only seeing a facade.
Exactly
Heartbreaking and absolutely eye opening to hear so much more from the parents. It all leads to suspicious behaviour from Lucy at the very least. Breaks ur heart listening to the parents testimony and guilt they feel ❤
Suspicious behaviour. Now you know the virdict!
Lip filler advertising isnt recommendable on such a,very sensitive podcast
There seemed to be a major problem with hygiene in the Hospital with leaking sewage pipes especially in and near the baby units bacteria and harmful pathogens were found to be present.The Hospital was 10% above any other hospital nationwide for stillbirths ,and some mothers after giving birth developed infections.All within this same time frame,Coincidence???
She made this worse than what it was germs are everywhere but they had letby to deal with 4:27
How exactly does one instance of sewage cause babies to die over the course of a whole year? And how exactly does it cause them to die with symptoms that don't fit with infection?
I don’t understand why she had thousands of notes , confidential notes of patients in her home 🤷🏻♀️ I was a nurse for 40 years & would never save notes in my home re patients.
I have never ever looked them up on social media either !! It’s all very bizarre behaviour from LL
Psychopathy. Keeping things that would remind her of what brought her joy.
Maybe if you thought you were being bullied ? Or even framed ? That could explain all of this. Extremely high stress levels can cause people to do strange things. It doesn't necessarily mean they are a serial killer. Anyway most of the documents were handover sheets.
@@aidanturner6139 don’t buy it !! She even lied about the poor father falling to floor crying. All lies I agree with 👆 Psychopathy !
Not thousands, and that has been explained. And I assume you didn't have social media in your day - young people use it much differently than you'd expect. None of this is proof of murder.
@@d-rex8223 did you watch operation hummingbird?
the stupid ads are clearer and louder than the actual program.
Sure the doctors are hardly going to say we can't understand what happened it's due to a complex range of factors.
Giving the parents a single silver bullet explanation solves a lot of problems at once.
It also protects the NHS from claims and more importantly covers up failings that I suspect are typical of every hospital accross the land. Imagine how many parents of dead child would begin questioning things if it came out every hospital has similar problems. It would be the biggest scandal in the NHS's history. Imagine the public backlash, the claims, the culpability etc.
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 What do you think is happening now? Letby IS one of the biggest scandals in NHS history
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Are you aware that there is an inquiry ongoing that seven days in has already exposed multiple failures at multiple levels? *If* - big if - they thought a scapegoat would solve their problems they were very much mistaken.
@@arfurascii2232 Are you aware how misdirection works, its all about damage control. Sure they'll be an investigation but now the main villain is locked away it's simply an infotmality, a tick box exercise.
Similar to MP peed dough scandals. Sacrifice some low level or minimally involved players to cover the bigger picture, hide the real players. Pretend it was a couple of "bad apples" and now all sorted.
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Again, the inquiry has been running for only seven days so far yet a ton of awful stuff has come out already. If this is their misdirection I would hate to see their direction.
Will Alison Timmis's email to the Chief Executive be raised? "Things are stretched thinner and thinner and are at breaking point. When things snap, the casualties will either be children's lives or the mental and physical health of our staff." (Dec 2015) Also, the presence of a fatal bacteria and backed up sewage? Scapegoat?
They had a hospital plumber give evidence in the trial
Cant wait for the Jonh Sweeny podcasts to start. Everyday more and more highly respected professionals are asking questions about this miscarriage.
You are so right
It’s not a miscarriage she’s a murderer
@@lindamessam8784 That'll be it then.
A conviction without a motive, any direct evidence, and dodgy misrepresentation of statistical data is bad enough: But so many other questions remain as to the validity of this prosecuted, that there is no doubt she will ultimately face a retrial in the interest of justice.
And she may well be innocent as she claims.
Im glad there are others that think like this - I am on the fence over it but more and more leaning towards her innocence - and if so, my word, that poor girl, its just horrific for her - if she is innocent then she was clearly struggling emotionally even before she was accused - and I could well see it being the case that even if she was guilty, it having arisen from a horrible breakdown having been utterly unsupported in dealing with the responsibilities of an understaffed ward and the emotional burden of such work at a relativelly young age. The enquiry ought at least to include how they allowed LL to get to that stage in herself - it is intriguing that there has been hardly any headlines around how could suc a person as her be lead to do such things as those - only that, unlike any other major killing case in history, there is no sign whatsoever to be seen in retrospect of having some considerable quirk
And without any credible evidence that the babies were murdered or harmed. Post-mortems showed natural causes.
Rubbish
Rubbish she’s a murderer
@@d-rex8223there was plenty of direct evidence dr jayram caught her In the act
Just like in the 1500s, a hunch was often enough to uncover a case of witchcraft. This could be as small a thing as owning cats or living next to a cemetery, both of which were true of Lucy.
If that girl is innocent, my heart absolutely bleeds for her - that is the cruelest scapegoating possible. There was no definitive proof and there was a lot else wrong with that hospital. The NHS is saturated with a scape-goating and arse-covering ethos. It galls me to see the thumbnails and headlines that write it as a proven given. She is convicted but it is clear that it is still 'alleged' and 'suspected.' The hospital was clearly negligent in itself in so many areas and it is not right to emphasise Letby's guilt taking the heat off those running the hospital who must have their negligences pulled into the light and held to account
well now its officially "proven" so now your heart can "bleed" instead for the babies whose lives were snuffed out for no reason and for those left severely disabled not to mention the parents traumatised and the actual professional doctors and nurses who were gaslit and "hurt" by her because they are the ones you need to be concerned for - not to mention the 12 jurors who sat for over 9 months and gave their time, attention and dedication for lucy and the state.
Guilty as sin
Lots of guilty parties
Stop calling the parents' testimony "evidence" as if it's somehow "evidence" that Lucy is guilty of murder, it's just testimony of stuff that happened. Not evidence of anything. Other than "evidence" of Lucy being at work, for work purposes, doing work things. As far as i know, she's never denied being at work, working.
There is plenty of evidence listening to all the doctors and the.mothers of the babies she is GUILTY
I suspect this was a mistrial. At the time the internal and external investigations did not identify a murder. The only reason this went further is because a group of doctors had subjective concerns. None of the medical or statistical evidence stacks up and things have been presented as a sign of guilt which when you look closer don't indicate this at all
It wasn't, she IS the perpetrator..Check out people who investigated deeply into the case, especially Lucy's personaly disorder
@danielaspitz3052 Sorry, genuine question, what type of personality disorder and support for this?
@philipholding Narcissism, sadistic.HG Tudor has analysed her and Crime Scene 2 has taken part in the trial and put all the evidence on his channel. Personally I've lived with people like her. They seem kind and they use plausible deniability which makes it hard to put a finger on their abuse and the crimes they committ.
Any self respecting psychologist would refrain from expressing an opinion on anyone they have not met or spoken to. It is disrespectful and unprofessional and their main interest is self publicity.
100% Lucy was framed and used as a scapegoat for a failing NHS. I hope she can be freed ASAP
A Bayesian analysis showed the chances of a spike in 2015-16 at ANY Trust was between 32% and 40%. Add to that figure the chronic understaffing, clinical errors by junior doctors, sewage issues and upgrading of CoCH to L2, and the figure approaches 100%.
@@John-p7i5gno baby died of infection which they were implying was the significance of blocked drains on only two occasions. Most places I’ve worked are understaffed (was this proven or anecdotal? I genuinely don’t know) but they don’t have the death rates this place did.
@@NowledgeableKnurse There was a spike across the country during that period. And the year before, another Trust's neonatal ward (I believe it was Sherwood Forest but don't quote me on that) had nearly double the number of deaths.
True but I don't think having a pathogen filled environment helped matters, and may have exacerbated some of the babies' conditions.
Fact
You're wrong about this. She did murder them
FREE LUCY LETBY
What exactly is a hunch when you have autopsies finding no foul play? Oh yes....a goddamm witch hunt
Two trials, guilty.
In the second trial, the jury were told that her previous guilty verdicts could be used as evidence that she committed a new attempted murder charge.
I'm just asking the question, not suggesting anything. But is it in the parents financial interest for Lucy to be guilty? Do they receive some sort of victim compensation or other financial compensation from the hospital if their baby is deemed to have been murdered over dying of natural causes?
What a wicked thing to say. Are you saying that the parents are lying in the hope of compensation?
@@janlittle2148 no, the parents have nothing to lie about, i'm just wondering why they seem to object to the notion that she's innocent and their babies died of natural causes. None of the parents have ever said they saw her do anything wrong.
@@janlittle2148 It is not wicked to ask a simple factual question. The questioner said nothing about the parents lying. You said that. It is wicked to witch hunt innocent people.
Crass.
@@Casseopeia777 What is?
She started working on the ward in Jan 2015 and there were no deaths until June, despite the fact that there were 4 deaths in 2014 and 4 deaths in 2013, before she was there. Yet here it is said that 'suspicions were first raised in June 2015'. The very first death to happen under her watch and she is suspected of being involved. They didn't waste any time getting the witch hunt going did they?
She started working there in 2012.
@@lennymice2261 not as a qualified neonatal specialist, responsible for looking after the most vulnerable babies, that began in 2015, but there were no deaths until June.
@@SuperBoomslang
2012 is when she was a fully qualified nurse on the unit. She had been at the unit since 2011, but first as a student. Then her first presence on the unit as a fully qualified nurse was 2012. She was at that point a band 5 nurse, and remained a band 5 nurse throughout her time there, right up until being moved off the unit in 2016. She never got any higher than that. There were many band 6 nurses on the unit. They were both more qualified than Lucy, and more experienced than Lucy. She was not some super highly qualified nurse in charge of the sickest babies. In fact, for a lot of the attacks in the case and for several of the babies in the case, she wasn't even the designated nurse for those babies at the time of the attacks. The allegations against her weren't based on some coincidence of her being the one responsible for their care all the time.
You are right that she did do some training that qualified her to work with intensive care babies though. It's just that she had no particular monopoly over being the one assigned to them, with her being assigned sicker babies than other nurses, or assigned sick babies more often than other nurses. And this training concluded in March or April 2015 according to Lucy herself at the trial. Not January. Then there were 4 attacks in June, 3 of which resulted in deaths. That's why it was suspicious. Because it wasn't just her first death. It was her first, second and third death, all within a matter of weeks. A whole year's worth of deaths in one month. And a collapse of a 4th baby as well as the 3 deaths. And with all 4 of those babies' deaths and collapses being unexpected and unexplained.
I wonder why she lied to her friend about the dad crying on the floor.
Because she’s an attention seeking compulsive liar
@@RosieRoo-o1c How would that get her attention?
@@d-rex8223 “Aww no. Poor Lucy 🥲 That must be terrible for you. You’re having such a dreadful time of it. If there’s anything I can do….”
Attention seeker, who has to lie through her teeth to feel “special”
That “seriously popular” musical introduction reminds me of the opening to “Mother Angelica”
Is the money you make from ALL the many adverts going to go to help the parents, or a charity which helps bereaved parents?
I only ask because most of the sites doubting the conviction are sufficiently respectful to the parents, not to make money out their tragedy. They don’t monetise their videos with adverts. Why don’t you do the same, out of respect? Or are you banking on the parents not noticing this.
The evidence of her guilt is pretty overwhelming, especially her own handwriting notes.
Which ones? The ones saying 'I am innocent', or the ones saying 'I did this'?
@@John-p7i5g Both. It is not unusual for a guilty person to contradict themselves in written notes due to psychological stressors and cognitive dissonance
@@steveblundell7766or an innocent person!
@@steveblundell7766 I don't think that you understand cognitive dissonance. Are you an expert in that area.
We have been told that the notes were written as a response to a therapist telling Letby to write down her subjective feelings. As a trained counselor, I must point out that such thoughts may not reflect reality, merely Letby's irrational mental state.
Exposing failure of judiciary.
Newsflash! women exaggerate. Not a crime... yet, but then again with Kier you never know. Coming soon. Lol what is she suggesting, please examine every nurse/doctors personal text messages every day just incase one of them exaggerates something to someone else..
Interesting though, we didn't hear testimony of the father in this clip, maybe he was crying... maybe the wife was somewhere else so missed it. Why are we hearing from the wife about how the husband did or didn't react? and who cares if he cried or not, men often deny crying...
So, did Letby just get angry about something for a while and then stopped murdering again....or before.
A hunch is irrelevant. The parents are too emotional to see things clearly. My mother died in hospital, completely unexpectedly. I interviewed the doctors and nurses, convinced that they hadn't done their jobs properly. It's human nature to look for answers and for somebody to blame. The reality is that nobody did anything wrong. Hunches and feelings shouldn't be taken as evidence of wrongdoing.
That's not what the mother suggested. She said, "A hunch should be enough to at least look at what was happening."
Your comparing your mother I’m going guess elderly to new born babies some who was ready to go home one weighing 6.7lbs
Total opposite ends of the spectrum
Get rid of the adverts folk wont patronise your videos duh
Okay here's a complex reasoning problem. The prosecutor's fallacy is a form of logical fallacy. It consists of assuming, incorrectly, that the probability of guilt given a particular set of evidence is the same thing as the probability of a particular set of evidence given guilt. Those two concepts are actually separate. For example, if a prosecutor says to a defendant, "There was a study of 5000 guilty people who definitely committed this type of crime - they were convicted and eventually acknowledged their guilt. Here is an evidentiary feature that appeared in 99.9 percent of those 5000 people. Your case has that feature. Therefore there is a 99.9 percent probability that you are guilty." That is not true. The 99.9 percent statistic is based on knowing for certain that people are guilty. It is irrelevant to a situation where guilt is uncertain. It can't be used to resolve uncertainty about guilt because it only applies to situations where there is no uncertainty about guilt. Discuss the ways in which the Countess of Chester Hospital paediatricians' allegations against Lucy Letby, the police investigation into Lucy Letby, the trial of Lucy Letby, and the UK media coverage of the Lucy Letby story illustrate the logical fallacy known as the prosecutor's fallacy.
What you talking about dopey
@@lindamessam8784I know,.talk about word salad.
Look at your biased podcast towards her guilt and how many comments demonstrate that even still, people mostly dont believe she committed any crime.
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This is nothing but demon possession.
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
Matthew 10:1 ESV